Grace Lavery / Joseph Lavery & Daniel M. Lavery / Mallory Ortberg - "Straight with extra steps" couple trooning out to avoid "dwindling into mere heterosexuality"

[monstrous bubo]

What even possesses anyone to tattoo images of naked people onto their bodies in the first place?

Forget it Aero. It’s Coomertown.

Maya Forstater has done a long thread on various gender critical britbong academics being harassed and bullied. Joe is having none of that, and ripostes with a long silly thread about how well akshually Kathleen Stock resigned. Yes, it was a totally voluntary career choice.


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It prompted many comments, including this instant classic

Spoiler: full thread

@graceelavery

Pathetic. Forstater blurring the lines between those: —subject to student critique and protest; —subject to rigorous peer review; —subject to disciplinary complaint procedures. Has any of these ppl been fired for holding gender critical views, one might ask? The answer is “no.”

Maya Forstater

@MForstater
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Jul 28
A thread about academic freedom, sex and gender. This is not the only topic where university VCs have not defended academic freedom strongly enough, but it is a very good demonstration of the problem. @bphillipsonMP
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@graceelavery
Jul 29

The most notorious of Forstater’s cases, Kathleen Stock, resigned shortly before announcing a lucrative new job (which was, presumably in the works when she stepped down). She had been defended to the hilt by Sussex admin, while her critics were threatened with expulsion.

@graceelavery
Jul 29

Forstater understandably declines to mention the case of Rosa Freedman, who was so annoyed by a student’s private correspondence that she took it to the Daily Mail, who published it without the student’s permission.



@graceelavery
Jul 29

British people are such fans of the “kids these days can’t handle alternative viewpoints” narrative, that they ignore any facts which contradict it. Here’s a story I wrote at the time about Sussex’s extremely shitty behavior in the Stock case: link

@graceelavery
Jul 29

Academic freedom cannot be secured by a state, especially one with an ideological axe to grind. Let scholars be scholars, let students be students, and let terfs compensate for the contempt of their peers with widely-read but rarely-cited think pieces in UnHerd. ‘Twas ever thus.

GloriaGlasspool
@LottieCircus
Jul 29

You must be starting to worry, now that "gender critical" beliefs are entirely mainstream. Your days of queer theory having a stranglehold over the academy are numbered... People are seeing it for the monstrosity it is...

@graceelavery
Jul 29

it’s so weird, terfs have been doing the “your time is over” shtick for about a decade at this point. it used to scare the shit out of me. but it’s the boy who cried wolf at this point.

Colin Wight
@colwight
Jul 29

Your time is over Grace. You just haven’t realised it yet. The Wolf has been and gone. Left hungry though. There wasn’t much there worth eating as it turned out.

@graceelavery
Jul 29

I’m sure you’re right, Colin. Hey, weirdly, I thought about you yesterday. Do you know this song?

Colin Wight
@colwight
Jul 29

I do Grace, although I was never a fan of Britpop. Prefer a bit more edge to my music. Here’s one just for you.

Tomás
@TomasCorax
Jul 29

You make me think that you’re a stranger to the term “constructive dismissal”.

Toxicity_Rater
@Toxicity_Rater
Jul 29

Love that list. It's just people who've had "rigorous peer review"! "Nurse, what happened to this patient?" "I'm afraid, Doctor, that he had a rigorous peer review."

Miguel
@Miguel640283347
Jul 29

Jo Phoenix has unequivocally stated this was the case as did the judges findings. Stop lying.

kathy fletcher
@fletcherkathy8
Jul 29

The instances she cites are none of those things. They are toddlers throwing their toys out of the pram because someone said “no”. Anyone who “feels unsafe” because someone disagrees with them is unfit for higher level study. Censorship is akin to fascism, as is the violent abuse

Puzzledug2-Electric Boogaloo
@puzzledug2
6h

Cool story bro.

Short For TERRIFIC
@Witkicker
8h

Give it up.

RedGrouper #FBPE
@RedGrouper
Jul 29

Death rates, rape threats and bullying is a lot worse than being fired.

J Bagger
@JBagger4
4h

Child plays with fire, is burned, man tells child stop playing with fire. Child continues to play. You're that child.

Beren #SaveTheTomboys
@BerenHand
8h



EwokNews
@stormtroopers99
Jul 29

You disingenuous hack

Eric
@Eric85Astoria
22h

Aren't you the guy who lost his bottle about having to face Helen Joyce, to the extent that you got yourself banned from X so you could avoid the debate? I don't think your views on anything stand up to scrutiny. Your book has 26 reviews on Amazon UK, her's has 2,500 btw.

DaveDavidDave
@davecorviddave
Jul 29

Maya works with Helen Joyce. Do you remember Helen? Her book outsold yours by like 1000 to 1 and you were going to debate her but then you decided that, on balance, it might be better to run back to America with all shit in your knickers? Remember that?

JonjoBamjo
@JonjoBamjo
Jul 29

Are you saying, no one has ever been fired for holding GC views?

Jane Doe
@ArtemisLartemis
8h

Aren't you the bloke that beats up his wife?

Ricardo el Pandino
@sparerickypanda
Jul 29

Shouldn't you be writing some grim pornographic self-aggrandising nonsense, Lavers?

Barry Centreleft
@BarryCentreLeft
13h

Give it a rest, mate. You sound testerical.

Ellie Heretic
@EllieHeretic
Jul 29

Why should anyone be penalised for holding 'gender critical' views? Fuck off
@GraceLavery
you lying perv.

Sue tagg
@TaggSue
Jul 29

Sit down Sir

Your stupidity & ignorance is showing.

 

[Dick Johnson]

'And I pirouette away.'

 

[Larry David's Opera Cape]

What even possesses anyone to tattoo images of naked people onto their bodies in the first place?

"I thought maybe while you were looking at my bleak, flabby, chemically/surgically deformed, ashen middle aged body, you would appreciate the opportunity to look at an ideal, healthy, attractive human form."

 

[AirdropShitposts]

Forstater understandably declines to mention the case of Rosa Freedman, who was so annoyed by a student’s private correspondence that she took it to the Daily Mail, who published it without the student’s permission.

Felonious sharing things people send you, enjoy prison Rosa.

 

[MirnaMinkoff]

What even possesses anyone to tattoo images of naked people onto their bodies in the first place?

Looks like Joe went for the early aughts fad of getting classic “sailor Jerry” style tattoos ala Ed Hardy (gag).

As tattoos became a mega trendy there was a trend to be “old school” and get tattoos styled like the sailors got during WW2. This happened because Ed Hardy got the rights to Sailor Jerry’s tattoo designs and eventually managed to license them to fashion brands and lines, like Von Dutch. (Sailor Jerry himself died in 1973)

Joe, as always, displaying bad taste and a sucker for trends. He doesn’t actually have Sailor Jerry tattoo design, just one of the awful types of tattoos that sprung from Ed Hardy updating the aesthetic for 2000 trendy rebels. Joe’s tattoo would pair perfectly with a Von Dutch trucker cap and shirt.

 

[Bookwork]

Young Daniel boonishly explores the great American wilderness.

Spoiler: Text

@daniel_m_lavery
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there's a really surprising number of neighborhood skunks who just roam around town and my dog Bon-Bon looks so much like them it's very much like the accidentally painted cat that Pepe Le Pew keeps falling in love with

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45m
also I want to pet the skunks soo bad. But I won't!! But I want to every day

"I want to pet the skunks soo bad." Ignore the bad grammar, peeps - this is how a certain marriage began.

 

[Potatis Salad]

Looks like Joe went for the early aughts fad of getting classic “sailor Jerry” style tattoos ala Ed Hardy (gag).

As tattoos became a mega trendy there was a trend to be “old school” and get tattoos styled like the sailors got during WW2. This happened because Ed Hardy got the rights to Sailor Jerry’s tattoo designs and eventually managed to license them to fashion brands and lines, like Von Dutch. (Sailor Jerry himself died in 1973)

Joe, as always, displaying bad taste and a sucker for trends. He doesn’t actually have Sailor Jerry tattoo design, just one of the awful types of tattoos that sprung from Ed Hardy updating the aesthetic for 2000 trendy rebels. Joe’s tattoo would pair perfectly with a Von Dutch trucker cap and shirt.

Tits are common enough on those types of tattoos, but the full nudity is Joe's special little flair. I'd say his motivation for tattooing a vulva onto his body is an equal combo of coom and wanting to make people uncomfortable.

Meanwhile, Lennie from Of Mice and Men valiantly resist grabbing the local skunks:


I was looking at her shitty website and noticed the weird cropping on the cover of her first book, Texts from Jane Eyre, which was published under Mallory Ortberg:

The author name at the bottom is cropped out, I wondered if she did it on purpose because seeing her ~deadname~ is just too too triggering?

But no: looking at the page source reveals that the full image actually says "Daniel M. Lavery" at the bottom, it's just cropped weirdly because she's a tard baby:

So this shit was actually reprinted under the name Daniel Lavery?!?!

Does this mean it sold out of its print run and was printed again? If so, genuinely, good for Tard Baby! Joe must seethe every time someone buys one of her books.

 

[MirnaMinkoff]

Tits are common enough on those types of tattoos, but the full nudity is Joe's special little flair. I'd say his motivation for tattooing a vulva onto his body is an equal combo of coom and wanting to make people uncomfortable.

He wanted to impress Ed Hardy with his extra edge. Ouch.

 

[Bookwork]

Did no one notice Rocco's got her by the leg?

(Despite his consternation at being dunked in squashed cherries, I might add, while the "adults" laugh. That look on his face will be there when he's 5, 15, 25, 35.......)

 

[AirdropShitposts]

I like the "just discovering normal wildlife" aspect of that tweet.

 

[Mellorine]

The dogs are named Bon-Bon and Gogo, and perhaps I'm missing some brilliant cultural reference, but those seem like awfully basic names for a pair of poorly bred but expensive af Japanese chins owned by such insightful cultural luminaries. I'd have expected Joe to name them an edgelord literary reference along the lines of Justine and Juliet, or Dolores and Charlotte. Mallory might have gone for something more along the lines of Emma and Jane, or Kirk and Spock. But no, the unfortunate smash faced things are simply Bon-Bon and Gogo.
(The double syllable thing is often seen in Chinese names used for animals-- Ling Ling, Mei Mei, Jia Jia, etc. Japanese pets tend to be given names that are everyday Japanese words for cute, literal things along the lines of Tiny, Princess, Tiger, Blossom, etc. Obviously there's no obligation to give a pup a name referencing the breed's country of origin, but it's not an explanation for the names they used.)

 

[Autistic Nonetheless]

Does this mean it sold out of its print run and was printed again? If so, genuinely, good for Tard Baby! Joe must seethe every time someone buys one of her books.

I suspect this is more for a ebook only kind of arrangement but even then just compere the number of reviews to the 29 there are for Please Miss, most of which Joe probably wrote himself.

He cant even cope by pretending he dared to be unpopular since he is writing nothing but bs about sitcoms and shit.

 

[Stupid Sexy Flanders]

Does this mean it sold out of its print run and was printed again? If so, genuinely, good for Tard Baby! Joe must seethe every time someone buys one of her books.

If you click on the back cover it actually still has Mallory Ortberg:



That makes me think they just lazily put up a new front cover but might not represent the actual hardback cover you'll get. Either way, I'm not going to order to find out (though it would be really funny if they just slapped her new name onto the front cover and kept "Mallory Ortberg" on the back cover).

 

[Bookwork]

Have Joe's tatts been cataloged? I don't think I have the strength of character to do it, but I can contribute this to the effort.

Spoiler: Not safe for breakfast

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Mallory, yesterday: "I really appreciate that Chardin and his wife both wore the same kind of head wrap. important to dress with your wife in mind"

Explains a lot, doesn't it?

 

[Dr. Butt]

The dogs are named Bon-Bon and Gogo, and perhaps I'm missing some brilliant cultural reference, but those seem like awfully basic names for a pair of poorly bred but expensive af Japanese chins owned by such insightful cultural luminaries. I'd have expected Joe to name them an edgelord literary reference along the lines of Justine and Juliet, or Dolores and Charlotte. Mallory might have gone for something more along the lines of Emma and Jane, or Kirk and Spock. But no, the unfortunate smash faced things are simply Bon-Bon and Gogo.
(The double syllable thing is often seen in Chinese names used for animals-- Ling Ling, Mei Mei, Jia Jia, etc. Japanese pets tend to be given names that are everyday Japanese words for cute, literal things along the lines of Tiny, Princess, Tiger, Blossom, etc. Obviously there's no obligation to give a pup a name referencing the breed's country of origin, but it's not an explanation for the names they used.)

Mal and Joe are mentally slow and devoid of wit, so those are the funniest LOL QUIRKY names they could think of. Guarantee they think "Bonbon and Gogo" is fucking hilarious.

 

[Potatis Salad]

The dogs are named Bon-Bon and Gogo, and perhaps I'm missing some brilliant cultural reference, but those seem like awfully basic names for a pair of poorly bred but expensive af Japanese chins owned by such insightful cultural luminaries. I'd have expected Joe to name them an edgelord literary reference along the lines of Justine and Juliet, or Dolores and Charlotte. Mallory might have gone for something more along the lines of Emma and Jane, or Kirk and Spock. But no, the unfortunate smash faced things are simply Bon-Bon and Gogo.
(The double syllable thing is often seen in Chinese names used for animals-- Ling Ling, Mei Mei, Jia Jia, etc. Japanese pets tend to be given names that are everyday Japanese words for cute, literal things along the lines of Tiny, Princess, Tiger, Blossom, etc. Obviously there's no obligation to give a pup a name referencing the breed's country of origin, but it's not an explanation for the names they used.)

Bon-Bon and Gogo are nicknames for the dogs. From the NY Mag throuple article:

IT'S A MONDAY morning in March, and Danny Lavery is up first to quietly bake the bread he proofed the night before and to walk the two little dogs Maxim Casaubon Lavery (goes by Bon Bon) and Huckleberry Rigaud Lavery (prefers Gogo).

 

[Bookwork]

Somewhere there's intel of untested quality that dogs respond best to two-syllable names, with repeating syllables being the easiest for them to pick out from other human sounds.

Human: Boo
Dog: Me?
Human: Boo
Dog: Me!

When more than one dog is in the household, it's said to be best to use a distinctly different sounding repeating syllable for each dog. If BooBoo then ZsaZsa, not TuTu.

But with MalMal, I think it's just a precious me-talk-baby-talk thing.

 

[Mellorine]

I'm guessing "Casaubon" is after the Middlemarch character, "Rigaud" after the painter. I knew Joe would want something more pretentious (and inevitably retarded) than "Bon-Bon."

 

[monstrous bubo]

I'm guessing "Casaubon" is after the Middlemarch character, "Rigaud" after the painter. I knew Joe would want something more pretentious (and inevitably retarded) than "Bon-Bon."

Agree on those names. My guesses:

Maxim = Maxim de Winter in Rebecca because Tard Baby would love that book
Casaubon = Edward Casaubon in Middlemarch according to Tard Baby, but 16th century scholar Isaac Casaubon according to Joe
Huckleberry = they’re too chickenshit to call it Nigger Jim
Rigaud = the painter. Interestingly the name is French but comes from the ancient Germanic personal name Ricwald: ric = 'powerful' and wald = 'power, authority'. Remember that Rochbert is the ancient Germanic version of Robert. Two points emerge: the dogs really were a practice run for Bobby Joe in multiple ways, and Joe is into ancient Germanic stuff. White pride worldwide! 1488 arc when?

 

[Constellationzero]

RE: Dog names.

All I hear/read are:

I iz smrt. I haz a DAGREE from COLLAGE! Where's YOUR DAGREE from COLLAGE? You are not smrt liek me! I wrote a buk and have a MASTERS DAGREE! You do not, pleb!

And once again: FAILory cannot write. I'm really starting to wonder how many dicks (or who's) she's fellated to get the chance to add to the Amazon landfill of garbage paperback books.
I'd put good money down that anything written by Robert STAINeck or even a book on conduit bending is more intellectually stimulating.