UK 'Major incident' after reports of stabbing and 'number of casualties' in Southport

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Police have declared a "major incident" in Southport after reports of a stabbing and a "number of reported casualties".

Police said a knife had been seized and that a man had been detained but urged the public to avoid the area near Hart Street.

In a statement, Merseyside Police said: "We can confirm that emergency services are in Southport following a major incident this morning, Monday 29 July.

"At around 11.50am, we were called to a property on Hart Street to reports of a stabbing.

"There are a number of reported casualties and more details will be confirmed when possible.

"Armed police have detained a male and seized a knife. He has been taken to a police station.

"Please avoid the area while we deal with this incident. There is no wider threat to the public."

This breaking news story is being updated and more details will be published shortly.

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they feel like traitors for moving south of the M25

They are.

Basically, in the UK (specifically England) there has been a history of classism for centuries, in which the wealthy would look down on the working class, whilst the working class have distain for the posh cunts. It's common for people from upper middle class backgrounds to downplay their social status to look more grounded and "cool" so they pretend to be working class. Or those who come from the upper spectrums of working class areas that had money and went abroad on holiday often as children etc, would exaggerate their working class background to come across as more salt of the earth.

For some reason being from a working class background is seen as "cool" to faggot lefty uni students. Probably because they all larp as revolutionary communist heroes who are for the people. Ironically, this is only when it suits them though,because as soon as there are riots against immigration etc.. then they stereotype all working class people as being uneducated racist thugs.

It's thankfully quite easy to identify upper middle class retards pretending to have any sort of connection to the proles. They just don't get it at all.
 
Western governments are really just going to keep pretending “far right” anger can never possess any validity until those people completely disengage from the social contract entirely, huh? It would be a lot better for everyone if the people in power stopped acting as if everyone who holds opinions contrary to theirs is some sort of extremist, but they’re really going to push it until it’s all past the tipping point and by then it’s going to be too fucking late.
To arrive at that tipping point people first must realize that being called an extremist/racist/nazi/islamophobe/nationalist means nothing, or better yet, go "yes, and?"
If modern Europe can teach us anything, it's that being a nationalist is a good thing.
 
Speaking of, where’s ol’ Farage (or as his friends call him, Nig) while all of this is going on? Is he out in Southport speaking and meeting people but the media isn’t reporting on it? Or does Reform think it would be bad optics for him to show up?
 
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Quite funny that M Henshaws are being praised for clearing up today when Max's (the owner) younger brother Rob was in the crowd throwing bricks at the police last night.
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Local news reporting possibility of another kick off this afternoon.
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Some speculation as to where last nights rioters came from.
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Dozens of UK police hurt in clashes after three girls killed in stabbing attack
Reuters (archive.ph)
By Temilade Adelaja
2024-07-31 13:21:18GMT
SOUTHPORT, England, July 31 (Reuters) - Dozens of British police officers suffered injuries in violent clashes in an English seaside town late on Tuesday after three young girls were killed a day earlier in a violent stabbing attack at a Taylor Swift-themed dance event.

Police vans were set on fire in Southport and protesters hurled bricks at both officers and at cars parked at a mosque, following speculation and unverified posts on social media that the suspect behind the attack was a Muslim and a migrant.

As well as killing three girls aged six to nine, Monday's horrific incident in the normally quiet town in northwest England saw eight other children stabbed. Five remain in a critical condition in hospital along with two adults who tried to protect them.

Police, who have arrested an unnamed 17-year-old male on suspicion of murder and attempted murder, have said the incident was not terrorism-related and sought to quash speculation on the suspect's origins, saying he was born in Britain.

That did not prevent protesters, from what Merseyside police believed were tied to the right-wing anti-Islam group, the English Defence League, from targeting a mosque in the town and attacking police who tried to stop them.

Politicians and police said most of those taking part in the violence were not from the area, and said the clashes detracted from a large vigil attended by thousands to pay tribute to the young victims.

'THUGS FROM OUT OF TOWN'
A total of 39 officers were treated for injuries, including 27 who were taken to hospital, North West Ambulance Service said on Wednesday. Police said eight had suffered serious injuries including fractures, and three police dogs were also hurt.

"Offenders have destroyed garden walls so they could use the bricks to attack our officers and have set cars belonging to the public on fire, and damaged cars parked in the Mosque car park," Assistant Chief Constable Alex Goss of Merseyside Police said in a statement.

"This is no way to treat a community, least of all a community that is still reeling from the events of Monday."

On Wednesday, streets in Southport were littered with bricks from broken walls, smashed bottles, and large garbage bins - which had been hurled at police the night before - and their contents. Charred tarmac bore witness to the police vehicles which had been set alight.

"What I saw last night was absolutely appalling ... It was devastating and it's kind of taken away from actually what's gone on, which is the tragedy of those deaths," local resident David Burgess told Sky News.

"This is about the girls and the tragedy which has happened - don't make it about this," he said, referring to the clashes. "This isn't Southport. This isn't the community."

Prime Minister Keir Starmer and senior ministers blamed "violent thugs from out town", for the trouble.

"Those who have hijacked the vigil for the victims with violence and thuggery have insulted the community as it grieves. They will feel the full force of the law," Starmer said.

Meanwhile, Taylor Swift's fans have so far raised more than 270,000 pounds ($346,000) to help families of the victims and for the hospital where some of the children were being treated.

($1 = 0.7795 pounds)

Reporting by Sachin Ravikumar; writing by Michael Holden; Editing by Bernadette Baum
 
Some speculation as to where last nights rioters came from.
The balaclava brigade are almost always commie cunts.

Prime Minister Keir Starmer and senior ministers blamed "violent thugs from out town", for the trouble.
Guess the whole “Thug is a racial epithet” meme hasn’t made it across the pond yet.
 
I feel like if something doesn't kick off soon then there's genuinely nothing that can be done. I could totally see Reform winning the next elections but bar their immigration stance they're actually more backwards than the Greens in regards to everything else.

Reform winning such a high number of the vote should have been the calling card for the left to reign itself in a little on immigration but instead it's doubling down and same as usual shit. Maybe riots are the sound of the unheard afterall, right? Or does that not affect whyte peeples.
It doesn't end as long as being a self-hating white person is cool, and "fascist" remains a kill word that shuts down political opposition.
 
Some speculation as to where last nights rioters came from.
The rioters are DIRTY FILTHY OUTSIDERS from (5 miles) out of town! Nevermind that the killer came in from the next town and was born in South Wales to a family from the middle of Africa, we suddenly care about the fact that people causing problems AREN'T FROM ROUND HERE 😠😠😠😠

Speaking of, where’s ol’ Farage (or as his friends call him, Nig) while all of this is going on? Is he out in Southport speaking and meeting people but the media isn’t reporting on it? Or does Reform think it would be bad optics for him to show up?
It's not really in their remit. The killer has Rwandan parents but is British in the eyes of the state as he was born and raised within Britain. They won't go anywhere near that. Their opposition to immigration levels is purely logistical (housing/road capacity/NHS etc), their "net zero" immigration plan would still see over half a million people coming in per year based on current emigration levels.
 
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Basically, in the UK (specifically England) there has been a history of classism for centuries
This is one thing that I don't think Americans can ever understand since the idea of social mobility is built into our ethos. The class system in Britain is hard-coded. If you are born into a specific class you are expected to be in that class for life, regardless of your income and wealth.

It's very strange to me but that's just how it is. Simple as.
 
The rioters are DIRTY FILTHY OUTSIDERS from (5 miles) out of town! Nevermind that the killer came in from the next town and was born in South Wales to a family from the middle of Africa, we suddenly care about the fact that people causing problems AREN'T FROM ROUND HERE 😠😠😠😠
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This is one thing that I don't think Americans can ever understand since the idea of social mobility is built into our ethos. The class system in Britain is hard-coded. If you are born into a specific class you are expected to be in that class for life, regardless of your income and wealth.

It's very strange to me but that's just how it is. Simple as.
I think plenty of Americans can relate to it on a personal level. Often once you start making more money than anyone else in your family ever has, there will be whispers and digs like “Must be nice” or “I guess we’re not fancy enough for you anymore.” This is just from petty, insecure, self-centered family members with fragile egos. Just extrapolate that to a collective scale.
 
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I think plenty of Americans can relate to it on a personal level. Often once you start making more money than anyone else in your family ever has, there will be whispers and digs like “Must be nice” or “I guess we’re not fancy enough for you anymore.” This is just from petty, insecure, self-centered family members with fragile egos. Just extrapolate that to a collective scale.

Your not wrong about insecure individuals but the impression I got is that you are born in to a specific class family and you have a specific accent then you are pretty much stereotyped into that. Even if you strike it big you are expected to still keep the trappings of your birth class. The American dream runs opposite where you can raise from humble poor beginnings to captain of your industry regardless of background.

This is just what I inferred from my brit in-laws. If you're a native you will know more on this then me and would like to hear your thoughts.
 
I think plenty of Americans can relate to it on a personal level. Often once you start making more money than anyone else in your family ever has, there will be whispers and digs like “Must be nice” or “I guess we’re not fancy enough for you anymore.” This is just from petty, insecure, self-centered family members with fragile egos. Just extrapolate that to a collective scale.
That's not really how it is though. In America your history is different, your country is a lot younge rand you don't have anywhere near the class system Britain does - and has had for hundreds if not thousands of years. Even 'popular' politicians like Boris Johnson try to come across as working-class to be more relatable but they all go to the same schools, Eton and the like. It's why we call them toffs and have great disdain, but that disdain pales in comparison to the scorn these old boys have for us oiks. You could suddenly become very wealthy and have the means to send your kids to these places but they will never be accepted as one of them, nor it is likely they'll experience the same opportunities. They'll be frozen out at best, still regarded as lowly working class despite having newfound fortune.

Think of it like in Harry Potter. There's a reason why the Pure-Bloods (aka the Sacred Twenty-Eight) are depicted as they are, it's quite similar to modern British dynamics where certain families are regarded 'more than' as opposed to the dirty working-class they look down upon. If you are not born into them, you're regarded as dirt, simple as. In America, you at best have wealth envy, particularly in the niggerhood where those rare blackies who manage to escape not just the hood but the crabs-in-a-bucket mentality that keep them chained to their roots.
 
the impression I got is that you are born in to a special class family and you have a specific accent then you are pretty much stereotyped into that. Even if you strike it big you are expected to still keep the trappings of your birth class. The American dream runs opposite where you can raise from humble poor beginnings to captain of your industry regardless of background.
Right. I was raised mostly in the UK but back and forth to the US a lot. I remember distinctly an older neighbor of ours in England telling my parents how his father had been a coal miner. His dad was then massively resentful when his son went to work in British Gas management and would take digs — both sly and overt — about it until the day he died. Whereas in an American parent’s mindset, ensuring your kids can go farther and have a better life than you did is a big goal.
 
Again this a defunct group but how many active ACTUAL terrorist Islamist groups have we got that are still active?
You know that, I know that, average retard who gets all their news from the telebox doesn’t know that.

The government looks like they are doing something without doing anything.

Labour have been in power for less than a month and I’m so fucking tired of them already.
 
Online misinformation is fueling tensions over the Southport stabbing attack that killed 3 children
Associated Press (archive.ph)
By Jill Lawless
2024-07-31 14:22:28GMT
LONDON (AP) — Within hours of a stabbing attack in northwest England that killed three young girls and wounded several more children, the name of a suspect was circulating on social media. Hours after that, violent protesters were clashing with police outside a nearby mosque.

Police say the name was fake, as were rumors that the 17-year-old suspect was an asylum-seeker who had recently arrived in Britain. Detectives say the alleged attacker was born in the U.K., and British media including the BBC have reported that his parents are from Rwanda.

That information did little to slow the lightning spread of the false name, or stop right-wing influencers pinning the blame on immigrants and Muslims.

“There’s a parallel universe where what was claimed by these rumors were the actual facts of the case,” said Sunder Katwala, director of British Future, a think tank that looks at issues including integration and national identity. “And that will be a difficult thing to manage.”

Local lawmaker Patrick Hurley said the result was “hundreds of people descending on the town, descending on Southport from outside of the area, intent on causing trouble -- either because they believe what they’ve written, or because they are bad faith actors who wrote it in the first place, in the hope of causing community division.”

One of the first outlets to report the false name, Ali Al-Shakati, was Channel 3 Now, an account on X that purports to be a news channel. A Facebook page of the same name says it is managed by people in Pakistan and the U.S. A related website on Wednesday showed a mix of possibly AI-generated news and entertainment stories, as well as an apology for “the misleading information” in its article on the Southport stabbings.

By the time the apology was posted, the incorrect identification had been repeated widely on social media.

“Some of the key actors are probably just generating traffic, possibly for monetization,” said Katwala. The misinformation was then spread further by “people committed to the U.K. domestic far right,” he said.

Governments around the world, including Britain’s, are struggling with how to curb toxic material online. U.K. Home Secretary Yvette Cooper said Tuesday that social media companies “need to take some responsibility” for the content on their sites.

Katwala said that social platforms such as Facebook and X, formerly Twitter, worked to “de-amplify” false information in real time after mass shootings at two mosques in Christchurch, New Zealand in 2019.

Since Elon Musk, a self-styled free-speech champion, bought X, it has gutted teams that once fought misinformation on the platform and restored the accounts of banned conspiracy theories and extremists.

Rumors have swirled in the relative silence of police over the attack. Merseyside Police issued a statement saying the reported name for the suspect was incorrect, but have provided little information about him other than his age and birthplace of Cardiff, Wales.

Under U.K. law, suspects are not publicly named until they have been charged, and those under 18 are usually not named at all. That has been seized on by some activists to suggest the police are withholding information about the attacker.

Tommy Robinson, founder of the far-right English Defense League, accused police of “gaslighting” the public. Nigel Farage, a veteran anti-immigration politician who was elected to Parliament in this month’s general election, posted a video on X speculating “whether the truth is being withheld from us” about the attack.

Brendan Cox, whose lawmaker wife Jo Cox was murdered by a far-right attacker in 2016, said Farage’s comments showed he was “nothing better than a Tommy Robinson in a suit.”

“It is beyond the pale to use a moment like this to spread your narrative and to spread your hatred, and we saw the results on Southport’s streets last night,” Cox told the BBC.
 
Misinformation my arse. People are just starting to snap, you can only lie for so long before they get sick of it all. Everybody is talking about this incident, they have eyes, they know what the cities and towns are like, full of vicious foreign scum. The lies are no longer working as they used to and it's got (((them))) pissing their pants.
 
Far-right rioters attack U.K. police, mosque amid false claims on stabbings
The Washington Post (archive.ph)
By Leo Sands and William Booth
2024-07-31 14:48:27GMT
LONDON — Rioters attacked police and stormed a mosque in a seaside town in northwestern England, after far-right networks on social media spread misinformation about a mass stabbing at a Taylor Swift-themed dance class that killed three young girls and critically wounded seven others.

Police said the riot in Southport on Tuesday night was stoked in part by social media posts that incorrectly alleged that the stabbing was perpetrated by a recent asylum seeker who had arrived in Britain by illegally crossing the English Channel on a raft.

Amid reported chants of “We want our country back,” rioters pelted police with bricks, injuring as many as 50 officers and sending 27 to hospitals. The rioters also smashed the windows of a mosque, torched vehicles and looted a shop.

The ugly violence, on the same day the town was holding a peaceful heart-rending vigil for the dead and injured girls, stunned Britain, where the stabbings have been round-the-clock news.

Shortly before lunchtime on Monday, an assailant attacked a children’s dance class on the first day of summer vacation. Three girls have died — Bebe King, Elsie Dot Stancombe and Alice Dasilva Aguiar, ages 6 to 9. Five children and two adults remain in critical condition.

Police are searching for a motive but say the attack does not appear related to terrorism.

The 17-year-old suspect, arrested on suspicion of murder and attempted murder, was born in Britain — in Cardiff, Wales — police stressed. The BBC and Financial Times reported that his parents were originally from Rwanda.

Because of his age, his name has not been released by authorities. But police confirmed on Tuesday that a name circulating on social media in connection with the case was incorrect.

“There has been much speculation and hypothesis around the status of a 17-year-old male who is currently in police custody and some individuals are using this to bring violence and disorder to our streets,” police said in a statement.

Police identified the rioters as supporters of the English Defense League, a now-disbanded organization of anti-Islam agitators and soccer hooligans, who still gather often in raw, sometimes violent protests.

Merseyside Chief Constable Serena Kennedy said “a number of arrests were made” on Tuesday night and that further investigation is underway.

Patrick Hurley, Southport’s member of Parliament, emphasized that the melee was staged not by locals but “beered-up thugs” who were “using the horrific incident on Monday … for their own political purposes.”

The former de facto leader of the EDL, Tommy Robinson, issued denials on social media, writing: “There’s has been no EDL for over a decade.” But in a video seen more than 3 million times since he posted it on Tuesday around 9 p.m., he argued that “anger is justified” in Southport, because the British authorities have “opened our borders,” resulting in “children being butchered and murdered.”

“You care more for Afghanis, Somalis, Eritreans, Syrians, Pakistanis,” he shouted, red faced. “They’re a danger to us.”

(Robinson’s whereabouts are unknown since he fled Britain on Sunday night, on the eve of unrelated contempt-of-court proceedings.)

Hours after Monday’s stabbings, a false claim about the suspect’s identity was posted on an obscure X account and amplified by prominent far-right figures. Even though the social media company tacked a “community note” to the original post and eventually removed it, the claim went viral.

“It looks like the tweet has been deliberately fabricated to generate hostility toward ethnic minorities and immigrants, and it’s a potentially Islamophobic piece of propaganda,” said Andrew Chadwick, professor of political communication at the University of Loughborough and expert in the spread of online misinformation.

According to X’s analytics, the original post received at least 1.7 million views before it was removed. Videos repeating the claim were shared by Andrew Tate, an American-British former kickboxing champion who has built a popular personal brand around hyper-masculinity, and Laurence Fox, an actor turned right-wing activist. Their posts received around 17 million views between them, according to X’s data.

Chadwick traced the original claim to a website called Channel 3 Now News, which he said had the hallmarks of a misinformation site run for political or commercial motives, if not both. “It looks like a news website, feels like a news website, but of course it isn’t — it’s based off a WordPress template,” he said, after examining its underlying code, which is publicly available.

According to Chadwick, the claim spread quickly online for a combination of reasons: Emotions were high as people sought information in the aftermath of a gruesome attack, the claim was charged, and content restrictions on X have been loosened since the social media platform was acquired by Elon Musk in 2022.

“We also know that historically social media algorithms are tweaked in order to further that content, because they know that it promotes engagement, and engagement over the long term is their business model,” he said.

Last year, an analysis by The Washington Post found that Elon Musk’s Twitter was amplifying hate speech in its “For You” timeline, an unintended side effect of an algorithm that is supposed to show users more of what they want.

X, formerly Twitter, says in its user guidelines that hateful conduct, including attacking people on the basis of race, ethnicity or religious affiliation, is forbidden. A Washington Post request for comment, sent to X’s main media email account, was met with an automated response: “Busy now, please check back later.”

Sunder Katwala, director of the British Futures think tank, said the Southport case demonstrates not only the influence of far-right extremists on social media, but the threat posed by anti-Muslim prejudice in Britain.

By attempting to link Muslim people to specific crimes, far-right groups are hoping to appeal to a broader segment of the population that continues to entertain anti-Muslim stereotypes, Katwala said.

Britain’s new prime minister, Keir Starmer, a former top prosecutor, said those who rioted in Southport on Tuesday night will “feel the full force of the law.”

“It is sickening to see this happening within a community that has been devastated by the tragic loss of three young lives,” Alex Goss, assistant chief constable of the Merseyside Police, said in a statement Tuesday. “Our officers and other members of the emergency services were faced with one of the most difficult situations they will ever face. Tonight, they find themselves being attacked as they endeavor to prevent disorder.”

According to the Liverpool Echo news website, Jenni Stancombe, the mother of one of the slain girls, wrote on social media, “This is the only thing that I will write, but please stop the violence in Southport tonight.”

On Wednesday morning, locals with brooms where clearing the streets where the riot took place.
 
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