Greer v. Moon, No. 20-cv-00647 (D. Utah Sep. 16, 2020)

When will the Judge issue a ruling regarding the Motion to Dismiss?

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Defendants objected to this order, and the magistrate amended his order to explicitly apply the correct legal standard. Defendants again objected.

"We got caught making shit up to help Shit Lips, and now we're salty."

Gosh, it's a real mystery why Defendants would file another objection right after catching your previous mistake. Must be frivolous or something.

Next, as a practical matter, Defendants are correct that some of the motions will have been pending for around seven months by the time Mr. Greer submits a response. However, the motions had not yet been ruled upon.

AND WHOSE FAULT IS THAT???

Indeed, Mr. Greer initially filed his motion for an extension in March—several weeks after the deadlines at issue had passed... Again, Defendants have not shown how the magistrate’s actions in this regard were clearly erroneous or contrary to law.

Well fuck everything I guess.
 
To be honest, the venue transfer plan was probably a bad idea that has dragged matters out unnecessarily and may have given Russ the time he needed to respond.

The transfer happened after he missed the deadlines. A sane court would have slapped him for that first, instead of kicking him across the country to be someone else's problem.

If the Florida venue had stuck, Russ was completely fucked. He wouldn't have electronic access, he's not familiar with the laws, and the appeal ruling from the 10th could have been re-visited. It was a gamble worth taking, and it should have paid off, except Double Extra Super Retard+ jurisdictional ping-pong happened.
 
The transfer happened after he missed the deadlines. A sane court would have slapped him for that first, instead of kicking him across the country to be someone else's problem.

If the Florida venue had stuck, Russ was completely fucked. He wouldn't have electronic access, he's not familiar with the laws, and the appeal ruling from the 10th could have been re-visited. It was a gamble worth taking, and it should have paid off, except Double Extra Super Retard+ jurisdictional ping-pong happened.
It was a Rube Goldberg device of a plan, when simply waiting a little and filing a motion to dismiss for failure to prosecute once he'd racked up a bit more time not responding should have sufficed.
 
It was a Rube Goldberg device of a plan, when simply waiting a little and filing a motion to dismiss for failure to prosecute once he'd racked up a bit more time not responding should have sufficed.
Nothing that couldn't be glossed over with a favorable interpretation by either this court or the appeal he would surely file if it failed. If and when they put this case in the dirt, they don't want to see it again.
 
It was a Rube Goldberg device of a plan, when simply waiting a little and filing a motion to dismiss for failure to prosecute once he'd racked up a bit more time not responding should have sufficed.
The motion to change venue was filed on January 17th, 2 months before Russ missed his deadlines. His motion to stay was denied March 14th, and the venue change was granted on March 20th. This wasn't a bungled legal tactic in response to Russ failing to prosecute his case. The court should have slapped Russ for missing deadlines instead of suddenly ruling on 1 out of 5 defense motions, the one conveniently kicking the can thousands of miles away.

This sequence meant the only way to capitalize on Russ' sloth would be for Josh to oppose the transfer himself, asking the case to stay put and be dismissed, and sounding like a complete retard asking for venue changes in bad faith. Even so, Greer filed his objecting motion like 30 minutes after the transfer order was put in, starting the great big jurisdictional muddle before Josh could consider out-retarding him.

ETA: venue motion was filed 2 months before he missed deadlines, not 3
 
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I think the motion to strike is in the bag, since this is the first Background only mentioning information relevant to the copyright claim, instead of "HARASSMENT AND MURDER SITE KIWIFARMS THAT LITERALLY MURDERS PEOPLE!"
 
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I think the motion to strike is in the bag, since this is the first Background only mentioning information relevant to the copyright claim, instead of "HARASSMENT AND MURDER SITE KIWIFARMS THAT LITERALLY MURDERS PEOPLE!"
a website "built to exploit and showcase those [Mr.] Moon and his users have deemed eccentric and weird[.]"
 
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I think the motion to strike is in the bag, since this is the first Background only mentioning information relevant to the copyright claim, instead of "HARASSMENT AND MURDER SITE KIWIFARMS THAT LITERALLY MURDERS PEOPLE!"
I saw this too, and a motion to strike or more politely a motion to correct under rule 60(a) must be made on this. There is not even ALLEGATION that the material is on the Kiwifarms. The Plaintiff Alleges it is on a GOOGLE DRIVE. Neither the defense or the plaintiff have asserted in substantive filings that the Copyrighted material is on the Kiwifarms. The court is interpreting allegations that have not been alleged by anyone. This cannot be overlooked because it goes to the core of the retardation and the fact the District Judge is acting as Plaintiff against the defense by sua sponte accusing the defense of torts not alleged in the complaint. It needs to be corrected.
 
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Just to really rub it in, the Judge filed this three separate times:
Did anyone actually expect to win on this particular one? Losing on this is fine, it may have antagonized the judge a little bit though which is not good.

The motion did the stuff it was supposed to do and also the judge gets to very publicly dress down Hardin. Which will make what I think will be his rulings against Greer seem even handed.

I know I will get a lot of Autistic and dumb reacts for this one but it is what I ackushully believe.

I think the motion to strike is in the bag, since this is the first Background only mentioning information relevant to the copyright claim, instead of "HARASSMENT AND MURDER SITE KIWIFARMS THAT LITERALLY MURDERS PEOPLE!"
good catch I think you are entirely correct.
 
My point is that the Background, though it still quotes Russell, no longer gives the kiwifarms kill count citing motherjones
 
Maybe, but that is directed at the Plaintiff and not the court. Rule 60(a) is to be used when the court starts saying something that needs to be corrected. More importantly though the tabled motion to strike is aimed more at Greer's whining about the Kiwifarms doing all sorts of things that are not relevant to Contributory copyright infringement.

I'm more concerned that the Court is saying Greer has alleged the material is stored on the Kiwifarms. Greer has NOT alleged this. He has alleged that the posting of a link on the Kiwifarms to a Google Drive is copy right infringement. Claiming the material is on the Kiwifarms itself is something new and is something the District Judge invented out of whole cloth. Which is a big problem. The Court can't be introducing new causes of action in its rulings. Especially since neither the defense or the plaintiff asked it too. This is a Contributory infringement case, but the District Judge just said this was a Material Infringement case.
 
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Technically, the 10th Circuit invented that
Did they? Ugh I have a headache. If I'm remembering what the 10th circuit said, they found that Greer had sufficiently pled the necessary qualifications for contributory copyright infringement such that his case could not be dismissed from a Rule 12 failure to state to claim motion. The case at issue turns on whether or not the posting of a Link is THE SAME as posting the material. The court seems to be prejudging this though with statements that "Greer Alleges the Material was posted on the Kiwifarms".

I'm really bothered by this, because this is the core of Nulls defense. The material was NOT posted on the Kiwifarms. A link to a google drive was. If the Court was trying to be fair about the background, it should have said "Greer Alleges the Defendants infringed his copyright by posting a hyperlink to a google drive". That is what Greer alleged. Greer never said the material was uploaded and hosted on the forum. Nor was it. Or am I suffering from severe Mandela effect here?
 
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