US US Politics General - Discussion of President Biden and other politicians

 

[autistic dog]

Black and white are both made up groups. It all falls apart when you have to classify what race Argentinians are.

 

[Harvey Danger]

Not Black.
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He might be black, but he's not Black.

There's a reason those retards started capitalizing the B when all the race grifting kicked into hyperdrive: to denote the specific African-American population of the United States which descended from colonial era slaves. When they were just talking about skin color, a lot of east Asian people started claiming their spots. When they said African-American, actual African immigrants came over and made them look bad by having stats similar to American whites. So, to get the oppression class exactly accurate, they settled on capital-B Black.

That's why her ancestry matters: if she can't claim hundreds of years of oppression, she doesn't get to join the race grifting apparatus. She doesn't get reparations, she can't blame shortcomings on historical marginalization. A middle class prosecutor who grew up Indian in Canada can't claim any solidarity with that 13% voting bloc, and she needs Obama levels of Black solidarity to get her numbers up.

Trump should be claiming her lack of common community and culture led to her jailing Black men. He'll get called a liar, of course, but that's going to resonate hard with the blacks who take racial politics super seriously.

 

[CaddestSlown]

as an example, go call a Puerto Rican a "Mexican" and let me know when your stitches come out

I really don't understand what's so hard to understand about this for some people.

Even that black faggot Don Lemon was very clearly illustrating out why her being black is a moot point when her lived experience in no way crosses that of an African American woman in a way that matters. (Which is untrue, because as was said in the thread, her father abandoned her when she was a kid. ...A kid living in Canada But they'd never use that as a talking point.)

The woman HATES black people, she wouldn't put them in prison to serve actual slave labor past their promised release dates if she didn't. While she's doing the same shit they were put into prison for. That's GENUINE EVIL. Not even Black Lives Matter's Xitter has her back.

Exactly! That outrage would be more helpful than this current outrage.

In terms of tackling the problem of removing racial identity as a thing that matters sooner? Yeah sure. In terms of being more immediately beneficial to HIM? Hard disagree. I think it would put a bigger target on his back, to dismiss race, rather than put eyes on Kamala's ancestry. He's probably playing the identity politics game against them and might be causing a bit of in-fighting.

#sheisindian is trending more than trumpisweirdaf

Like so.

 

[XYZpdq Jr.]

Black and white are both made up groups. It all falls apart when you have to classify what race Argentinians are.

for that matter iirc "Indian" isn't _really_ a race, they're a bunch of stuff, and Tamil (Kamala's flavor) is one of them

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

I might laugh myself to death if the Dems pull another nominee switcheroo and Trump gets credit again.

 

[barrow greeter]

Trump better not waste too much time chasing Black votes, because if he does normal with them for a GOP candidate, he gets 10%, if he does outrageously, historically well for a GOP candidate with them, he gets 20% - or another way of putting it, an absolute maximum delta of ~1% of registered voters. Time would be better spent energizing and motivating his base and wooing actual undecided voter blocs.

 

[ChrisIsGay]

it's like "asian" or "hispanic"
to outside it all looks basically the same, but it's a VERY big fucking deal within

as an example, go call a Puerto Rican a "Mexican" and then let me know how long until your stitches come out

Puerto Ricans and Mexicans are both Mestizos. A better example would be go to Spain and call a Spaniard a "Mexican".

 

[Sekirodiealot]

I wonder what the questions for Harris are gonna be? I'm betting on kid's gloves, but I don't think it's going to look great when she shows up via Zoom to be handed a bunch of softballs next to Trump fielding pointed questions from a hostile interviewer.
Yeah, that won't change the mind of any Democrats, but for the undecided voter, this is going to be the most direct comparison between the two so far.

They'd probably ask her what's her favorite food is

 

[Random Internet Person]

 

[Jade Philosophies]

it's like "asian" or "hispanic"
to outside it all looks basically the same, but it's a VERY big fucking deal within

as an example, go call a Puerto Rican a "Mexican" and then let me know how long until your stitches come out

Asian isn't a race, Asia is a continent with multiple indigenous races. What Americans often call "Asians" are Orientals. The generic term "Asian" is used to erase their racial identity. Hispanic isn't a race either. It means somebody from or descendants of people from a Spanish-speaking country.

 

[XYZpdq Jr.]

Puerto Ricans and Mexicans are both Mestizos. A better example would be go to Spain and call a Spaniard a "Mexican".

I dunno if they'll be so quick to cut chu mang

 

[Overly Serious]

The woman HATES black people, she wouldn't put them in prison to serve actual slave labor past their promised release dates if she didn't. While she's doing the same shit they were put into prison for. That's GENUINE EVIL. Not even Black Lives Matter's Xitter has her back.

I know her father walked out on her and her mother when she was young, but did they ever patch things up or is he completely estranged from her now (presuming still alive). I'm just wondering if such an experience could have led to some personal animosity to Black people if as you say she actually feels that way.

 

[Forest Portal Triumph 747]

97 days is a long time, Kamala won't be able to pull off the same basement strat that chomo joe did without covid as an excuse

 

[WhiskeyJack]

for that matter iirc "Indian" isn't _really_ a race, they're a bunch of stuff, and Tamil (Kamala's flavor) is one of them

Indian is just a catch-all term from the Greeks, that basically means "Anyone on the other side of the Indus River". At one point it just meant "Asia", same way "Ethiopia" just meant the rest of Africa beyond Egypt. It's why Columbus called the indians in the Caribbean indians, he didn't think he reached India, but somewhere with asians. And he was right.

Indian only became a common term in India after the British took over, they were never a single people, but hundreds of tribes and even numerous religions. Hindu is not an Indian term, it also comes from Indus. Hindu is actually lots of religions all shoved together, mostly due to conquerors relabeling things.

 

[CaddestSlown]

I know her father walked out on her and her mother when she was young, but did they ever patch things up or is he completely estranged from her now (presuming still alive). I'm just wondering if such an experience could have led to some personal animosity to Black people if as you say she actually feels that way.

I remember someone posting an excerpt from her father in here that was him absolutely bad mouthing her and disowning her as a person. I think it was on a blog or interview of some sort. Let me see if I can find that.

Found it. Pretty sure things aren't going too good between them. It can be found from several sources.

“My dear departed grandmothers (whose extraordinary legacy I described in a recent essay on this website), as well as my deceased parents, must be turning in their grave right now to see their family’s name, reputation and proud Jamaican identity being connected, in any way, jokingly or not with the fraudulent stereotype of a pot-smoking joy seeker and in the pursuit of identity politics,” he wrote.

“Speaking for myself and my immediate Jamaican family, we wish to categorically dissociate ourselves from this travesty,” he added.

 

[Ibanez RG 350EX]

for that matter iirc "Indian" isn't _really_ a race, they're a bunch of stuff, and Tamil (Kamala's flavor) is one of them

Do any of the flavors use a fucking toilet?

 

[Jade Philosophies]

Black and white are both made up groups. It all falls apart when you have to classify what race Argentinians are.

It depends whether you mean indigenous Argentinians or someone like Javier Milei, who is White.

 

[George Lucas]

Asian isn't a race, Asia is a continent with multiple indigenous races. What Americans often call "Asians" are Orientals. The generic term "Asian" is used to erase their racial identity. Hispanic isn't a race either. It means somebody from or descendants of people from a Spanish-speaking country.

Asians are united by their love for rice.

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

Asian isn't a race, Asia is a continent with multiple indigenous races. What Americans often call "Asians" are Orientals. The generic term "Asian" is used to erase their racial identity. Hispanic isn't a race either. It means somebody from or descendants of people from a Spanish-speaking country.

All of that became irrelevant - or should have - the day intercontinental travel became a thing and everyone started fucking each other. There's no such thing as a "pure" race any more anywhere and hasn't been for a few centuries.

 

[barrow greeter]

The woman HATES black people, she wouldn't put them in prison to serve actual slave labor past their promised release dates if she didn't. While she's doing the same shit they were put into prison for. That's GENUINE EVIL. Not even Black Lives Matter's Xitter has her back.

She hates black people, she hates white people, she hates America. Have no doubts that Kamala the kalergi candidate hates all of humanity.