Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

Seth MacFarlane is an actual nerd and knows what he's on about, but he's also gotten shitlibbed so I could never bother with Orville.

The interesting thing with Seth is that he's a smart dumb guy. I'm sure that's part of why he's such a creative genius. I have enjoyed countless stuff from him. I used to watch Family Guy. I like the Orville and think it sucks they aren't making more. I even watched the TED sitcom and enjoyed it. Despite the woke shit and smoking weed crap. Do you American's really all smoke weed constantly and think it's cool?

Seth seems like he's smart. He likes nerdy shit. His creative output speaks for itself. Yet I follow him on Twitter. He posts some dumb ass takes that are beyond the Hollywood bubble. It's not Barbara Streisand just posting some lie she heard on MSNBC. Seth will post things he's thought about and get wrong or should know better. I think it was Seth on Bill Maher about vaccines and covid. Where he couldn't even discuss it or immunity. Bill Maher is also an idiot, but he had some grasp of the facts and Seth seemingly had no grasp but strong opinions. Maher just gave up trying to discuss. It was on a base level I would have expected any idiot to understand. Seth. Nope. It was kind of shocking how ignorant and uninformed he was. For someone that is presented as smart and informed on science. I'm not talking some covid conspiracy. It was something like, "but if you've had covid, doesn't that give you immunity like a vaccine." Seth was completely dumbfounded and confused. Didn't understand.
 
Seth self-inserts as Brian in Family Guy where he seems pretty well aware what a phony know-nothing liberal he is, and the show has taken some shots at the way SJW people talk about transgender people. But, all that awareness does not come through in his social media. I think he just got so rich and TDS and bubbled away in Hollywood and social media that there is no one to push back on his political views. The Orville was really good but someone REALLY needed to tell them to dial back on the Moclan gender plotlines, it came to dominate the show. The Ted series would be better if the Marty/Blaire dynamic was more like the early Stan/Hayley dynamic in American Dad where the nagging liberal perspective is sometimes the butt of the joke. Blaire is unrealistically right all the time and Marty is too over the top a caricature to feel sympathetic for at times.

Do you American's really all smoke weed constantly and think it's cool?
Seth MacFarlane fans sure do, lol.
 
Seth MacFarlane fans sure do, lol.

It's always one of those odd things. It's not that people don't here and that I don't know people who have or still do. American culture seems to celebrate it. I used to watch The Cobert Report when he was funny before revealing he actually was the character. He'd often make weed comments and the audience would applauded. That seems a common trope. Someone on TV in front of an audience goes, "sweet Marry Jane" and everyone organisms in response. Why?

Then I read a book once about how Jay Leno fucked Conan over with the tonight show. It went through all the current late-night hosts. It talked about Colbert and how he never had done drugs. So why the fuck was he promoting it on his TV show?

In general I assume degenerate lifestyle in Hollywood presented as normal life style in media. "Euphoria is just like real high school!"
 
It's a super-safe way to feel like a rebel and a reliable comedy well to draw from since Cheech & Chong. Americans like feeling like rebels. Hopefully this sort of thing gets dialed down as time moves on. It's not as harmless as the pot lobby marketed it as and now that it is easy to get and half legal it's not particularly a part of a rebel counterculture. Might as well talk about how cool it is to smoke death sticks at this point.
 
Is that the broad who spent an ENTIRE book on Jayna training with Boba Fett in order to assassinate her brother A GODDAMN SITH LORD?!?

And the book just gargles Boba’s balls for like hundreds of pages, and not even once tries to explain the patently ridiculous notion of a Mandalorians being any kind of a threat to one of the most powerful jedi ever?
Correct, that's the one. Its funny, the book goes on about how Fett has supposedly killed more Jedi than anyone, but he doesn't have a single Jedi kill under his belt. Lost to Vader, lost to Jaden Korr, only-now-an-official Jedi Luke didn't even notice him because he was too busy dealing with Jabba's mooks and all of Fett's shots went wide.

The book goes out of its way to bash Jaina too, calling her a pampered, manicured princess when she fought in the Vong Wars and flew with Rogue Squadron. But when a Mando uses some berserker blood rage that hides his presence in the Force, he kicks the shit out of her until she's curled up into a ball on the ground and fearing for her life. This is some Filoni tier favoritism.

Then in that same book, some random Mando grunt stabs Jacen because Jacen is just totally stumped on how to fight a Mando and has no clue what to do.

She also did a short story about how the Mandos were totally working as double agents against the Vong the entire time and it starts with this quote from Vergere.

"Warmaster, we think too often in terms of dualism: Jedi or Sith, light or dark, right or wrong. But there are three sides to this blade, not two, opposed and similar at the same time. The third edge is the Mandalorian."
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Give Traviss credit for walking when they started letting Filoni shit over the rest of the EU.
Only because Filoni was messing with her pet faction. She was doing that same, weirdly humanized clone trooper stuff in her books, she'd retcon stuff to better suit her narrative and characters when she wanted to. They're not that different, honestly.
 
I really don’t get Mandalorian or Boba Fett fanboys. Yeah the armor is cool and you can do some cool stories with a faction like that, but they’ve always struck me as an entire race/people with main character syndrome.

She also did a short story about how the Mandos were totally working as double agents against the Vong the entire time and it starts with this quote from Vergere.
As goddamn gay as that was, I gotta say I have a soft spot for Vergere. Probably one of the more interesting Jedi.

/bobs head/
 
I really don’t get Mandalorian or Boba Fett fanboys. Yeah the armor is cool and you can do some cool stories with a faction like that, but they’ve always struck me as an entire race/people with main character syndrome.

Yeah, it's always something that seemed a bit manufactured to me.

Maybe the Boba Fett cartoon in the Holiday special resonated with people. I understand there was marketing hype for him with special toys in the lead of to TESB. Yet when I watched Star Wars he was just someone in it. There was no epic, "le cool." I was just made aware of the hype.

That's not to say I wasn't aware or didn't understand the potential for a cool bounty hunter. As someone who has only watch a couple seasons of The Clone Wars. The Mandalorian lore and culture in the TV shows is pretty retarded.
 
I really don’t get Mandalorian or Boba Fett fanboys. Yeah the armor is cool and you can do some cool stories with a faction like that, but they’ve always struck me as an entire race/people with main character syndrome.
You ever read Traviss' RepCom series? Its mostly just Mandos jerking themselves off about what badasses they are and how morally superior they are to Jedi because they akshually care about clones, who Traviss unironically compares to Nazis.

Karen Traviss said:
It's slave-owner-think: it's Nazi-think. And yes, I bloody well hate it, and all those who think it.

It's not about Jedi - who don't even exist. It's about you.

If she had come in after the Disney buyout and Filoni and whoever else didn't retcon all her shit, she would have fit right in with Disney, there's not a doubt in my mind.

The really cool Mando shit was in KotoR. Canderous best Mandalore.
Agreed.
 
She was doing that same, weirdly humanized clone trooper stuff in her books, she'd retcon stuff to better suit her narrative and characters when she wanted to. They're not that different, honestly.
They aren't very different, but he had a lot more power and she was easier to ignore. The only one in that situation I feel bad for is Leeland Chee, I think.

And at least Traviss' humanized clones had a reason for it, her books still establish that the majority of the clones in the Grand Army are essentially single-minded and, importantly, brainwashed. IIRC she didn't leave over what he did to the Mandos (which was worse than what she did, and what she did was pretty bad), but over the brain chip debacle.

Actually Filoni is a lot more like Denning when you get down to it, all the way down to the animal-adjacent paraphilia.
 
You ever read Traviss' RepCom series? Its mostly just Mandos jerking themselves off about what badasses they are and how morally superior they are to Jedi because they akshually care about clones, who Traviss unironically compares to Nazis.



If she had come in after the Disney buyout and Filoni and whoever else didn't retcon all her shit, she would have fit right in with Disney, there's not a doubt in my mind.


Agreed.

But once you're past the age of puberty and you start arguing passionately with me that the Jedi were right to accept a slave army of cloned human beings and use them in war,

lol! And what exactly were they supposed to do?!

Just let millions of young men, genetically bred to war, just… Go and do what they want? Yeah, surely nothing bad could come from that!

lol! The following is probably one of thw least self aware things I’ve ever read.

It's just a kids' fantasy story. You could shrug and move on. But the fact that you rage about it means it's hit a real nerve in you,

Come to think of it, did this chick write any GOOD SW stories? Or just mess up the work of other writers in the series?
 
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Come to think of it, did this chick write any GOOD SW stories? Or just mess up the work of other writers in the series?
The only productive thing she did was make the Mandalorian language. Aside from that, she sucks so bad that the TCW Mandos were an improvement.

Is that the broad who spent an ENTIRE book on Jayna training with Boba Fett in order to assassinate her brother A GODDAMN SITH LORD?!?
If Jaina was going up against another Light-Side Jedi, that would make sense, since Mandos fought them a lot, and a lot of the Mando's skill-set and tech were made with fighting Jedi in mind. But against a Sith Lord, a Mandalorian's skill set is nothing. In fact, it's worse than nothing, since it makes you even more vulnerable to a Sith.

I mean, aside from the fact that the Sith have none of the Jedi weaknesses the Mandos rely upon, like compassion, honor, and the desire to not kill unless pushed to the limit, the Sith powers are essentially perfect for killing Mandos. This is especially true since some Dark-Siders have renounced the use of a lightsaber and use Force powers purely. Like the Sith Acolytes from Force Unleashed 2, and Emperor Palpatine from the Original Trilogy. The latter even tells Vader that the Sith only use lightsabers as a way to mock the Jedi; a Sith can fight with just purely the Force, since it is their weapon. So at that point, beskar is completely useless against them, and they can be more focused in the Force to use things like telekinesis to throw back any missiles, grenades, darts, or cables the Mandos might use.

I can just imagine how a Sith would mock a Mandalorian over how fucked the latter is when facing against the Dark Side.

''Oh, you think you're safe inside your lightsaber-resistant armor, Mr. Mandalorian? How's about I Force-choke you to death, and your armor and gadgets can't stop that? Or how's about I use Force Lighting, and since you're covered in metal, that would conduct the electricity and cook you inside your precious beskar suit? Heck, if you're wearing a jetpack, the Force Lightning can set it off and cause you to fly around uncontrollably and hit your head on a wall, or even explode, killing you in the process with your own portable high ground. Or how's about I use the Dark Side to strengthen myself physically so that I can lunge at you in a flash and snap your neck like a twig with my bare fucking hands?''

The best example I've seen was a Revan fanfilm done by Darth Varkor where a Dark-Side Revan interrogates a Mandalorian, and he uses the Force to crush the Mandalorian by having the Mando's armor collapse in on itself, giving the Mandalorian a minute before his own armor starts to crush his organs. Death by beskar is the most ironic way to kill a Mando, and I can imagine Traviss spitting plasma if it ever happened onscreen.

It goes to show that the Mandalorians only have a chance against the Jedi because the Jedi choose to fight fair. They choose to not use the Force as a weapon, and that is the only reason the Mandos have a chance against them. It's like how Grievous in the 2003 cartoon is only a threat to the Jedi because none of them had the bright idea to crush his armored chest with the Force, and when Windu does that at the end of the cartoon, it paralyzes Grievous and gives him his signature asthmatic cough. Karen Traviss' Mandos are like that, except they're nowhere near as badass as Tartakovsky Grievous. At least that bastard personally slew Jedi. I can't remember Traviss' Mandos killing any Jedi in combat.
 
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Suprised no one has mentioned it yet but looks like Skeleton Crew is coming December 3rd.


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What is up with Disney and their need to constantly take classic alien designs and slightly tweak them? I guess the elephant guy is the same species as max rebo... but different?

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Looks like they are trying to be cute and giving the kids speeder bike versions of a red rider bicycles. I wonder if they are made by the same people that mad the mopeds from the book of boba?

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Truly shameless with the stranger things/ speilberg influences arent we? I know Lucas used lots of things from Earth and history as inspiration but everything from the disney era just feels too on the nose. Like they took the first concept and ran with it without revising things at all.

Im curious how this will tie in with mandoverse and ashoka but I just read your guys reactions here when it comes out. I aint re subbing to disney plus for this.
 

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Is that the broad who spent an ENTIRE book on Jayna training with Boba Fett in order to assassinate her brother A GODDAMN SITH LORD?!?
I think it's the one where she mentions Qui-Gon killing Darth Maul.

Woman was cancer, and if her dumbass didn't quit she'd probably be show running a Disney+ series right now. The "fans" loved her and went on crusades against anyone who said a negative thing about her shitty New Zealand wankery.
 
Suprised no one has mentioned it yet but looks like Skeleton Crew is coming December 3rd.


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What is up with Disney and their need to constantly take classic alien designs and slightly tweak them? I guess the elephant guy is the same species as max rebo... but different?

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Looks like they are trying to be cute and giving the kids speeder bike versions of a red rider bicycles. I wonder if they are made by the same people that mad the mopeds from the book of boba?

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Truly shameless with the stranger things/ speilberg influences arent we? I know Lucas used lots of things from Earth and history as inspiration but everything from the disney era just feels too on the nose. Like they took the first concept and ran with it without revising things at all.

Im curious how this will tie in with mandoverse and ashoka but I just read your guys reactions here when it comes out. I aint re subbing to disney plus for this.

This is the dumbest shit ever.

WHY THE FUCK WOULD THEY HAVE KID-SIZED SPEEDERS?!

What purpose would that have? Kids weaving in and out of traffic at 200 miles an hour going to school?
 
Suprised no one has mentioned it yet but looks like Skeleton Crew is coming December 3rd.


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What is up with Disney and their need to constantly take classic alien designs and slightly tweak them? I guess the elephant guy is the same species as max rebo... but different?

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This is Harry Potter! I know J.K. Rowling is She Who Must Not Be Named but you can't tell me they still have their Harry Potter tattoos while writing the script.
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