US Plea Agreements Reached with 9/11 Defendants Khalid Shaikh Mohammad, Walid Bin 'Attash and Mustafa al Hawsawi

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The Convening Authority for Military Commissions, Susan Escallier, has entered into pretrial agreements with Khalid Shaikh Mohammad, Walid Muhammad Salih Mubarak Bin 'Attash, and Mustafa Ahmed Adam al Hawsawi, three of the co-accused in the 9/11 case. The specific terms and conditions of the pretrial agreements are not available to the public at this time.

The three accused, along with Ali Abdul Aziz Ali and Ramzi Bin al Shibh, were initially charged jointly and arraigned on June 5, 2008, and then were again charged jointly and arraigned a second time on May 5, 2012, in connection with their alleged roles in the September 11, 2001, attacks against the United States.

Information regarding military commissions can be found at the Office of Military Commissions website: https://www.mc.mil.
 
McVeigh is an interesting case, he wasn't interested in doing endless appeals and prolonging anything. With that said, it certainly is funny how he got the full power of the state crashing down on him, while nobody at Ruby Ridge or Waco sieges got so much as fired for the murders they committed.
You're familiar with the poem "Invictus"?
Invictus
William Ernest Henley

Out of the night that covers me,
Black as the Pit from pole to pole,
I thank whatever gods may be
For my unconquerable soul.

In the fell clutch of circumstance
I have not winced nor cried aloud.
Under the bludgeonings of chance
My head is bloody, but unbowed.

Beyond this place of wrath and tears
Looms but the Horror of the shade,
And yet the menace of the years
Finds, and shall find, me unafraid.

It matters not how strait the gate,
How charged with punishments the scroll,
I am the master of my fate:
I am the captain of my soul.

A few people over the years have taken this poem as a personal mantra, and McVeigh was one.
 
How has it taken 22 years for this to be settled? And does this mean the US kept these people imprisoned for over two decades without an actual sentence?

Anyway, my view on 9/11:
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Hey, James Corbett! I’m always happy to encounter his work in the wild of the internet because it seems like his stuff isn’t flashy enough or is too information dense for your average zoomer or normalfaggot to handle.
 
How has it taken 22 years for this to be settled? And does this mean the US kept these people imprisoned for over two decades without an actual sentence?
Because now they can let them out time served and hand them a new identity along with an American passport, and full benefit entitlement. Bonus points for the authorities losing track of them then them being responsible for another attack.
I'm as "send them all back" as they come, but after 20+ years of clown show, and a government more hostile to its own people than foreign attackers, I'm not even that outraged. 7 years for the first charges, 11 for the second attempt, and who knows what for the decade since? Were they building the perfect mastermind case to secure 3000+ murder convictions?

What if they'd spent a year doing the Capone tax approach, and in 2003 charged them with a dozen federal felonies like falsifying documents, visa fraud, disrupting interstate commerce, even bs process crimes like they've been using on Trump associates ("you lied to the FBI agent during hour 7 of him lying to you!"). Unsatisfying, but the 40 year federal sentences (no parole) would mean they're away for life.

Back in Clown World, I'm imagining a movie where the most "take them out back and save the taxpayers millions" type runs into one of these guys in a bar:

"So Mohammed, you gonna plan another?"
(Local news shows middle aged drag queens twerking with children)
"No my friend, I don't see the point any more."
"Got what you wanted huh?"
(TV cuts to Afghanistan collapse footage)
"I don't think either of us wanted this."
(Curb Your Enthusiasm theme plays)
 
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Them not being killed is a huge fuck you to every American tbh I don't get how the government can get away with it, I read about this early this morning around 6am and expected a much bigger thread and fallout.

People have accused me of doomposting but when you see people like this getting off it really makes you wonder what it will take for people to say enough is enough.
 
How cucked is the United States, really? If they let the ragheads who killed nearly 3000 Americans walk away from this, the image of being strong and patriotic should just evaporate forever.

There should be tens of thousands of people ready to drag those assholes out and crucify them Mussolini-style if not just gunning them down. They're all too happy to say that Orange Man being attacked was justifiable, but actually genocidal people? Nooooooo....
 
Guantanamo Bay is technically US land. So why doesn’t this guy get a “speedy” trial? 20 freaking years is ridiculous.
Defendants can waive their right to a speedy trial, which typically is a good idea for complex cases like this since it helps attorneys create a more solid defense. It’s actually fairly common for criminal cases. Still though, cases typically don’t take nearly two decades to go to trial.
 
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