US US Politics General - Discussion of President Biden and other politicians

 

[draggs]

I'm sorry that's wrong. Lehman was allowed to collapse because they needed a fall guy and the narrative you just repeated to ease the $10 trillion in bank bailouts through. The only way they got away with that is convincing you that the world would end if they didn't. It was bullshit.

Let the bad banks fail and things might've been shaky for two months until new banks were formed and the good assets that remained redistributed via the bankruptcy process. You know, the capitalist free market way. A whole bunch of really rich people would've been wiped out though and we just can't have that, your future be damned. Instead they printed $10 trillion out of thin air, gave it to the bad banks and reinflated all the already artificially-inflated assets. That's why a house that was already overpriced at $100k in 2006 is now $500k today. All they did was kick the can down the road for 20 more years and in the process used up all their zero interest rate tricks to keep it inflated so now they can't do it again and the collapse is going to real real bad.

Yeah no. I actually remember what the day Lehman collapsed and the day after was like, the panic that half or more of global private credit was about to go poof in the next ~72 hours was real and it was spectacular. Whether it really would have if Washington had said not our problem isn't very relevant, that's why it's called panic and not judicious concern

Two months lol are you for real, where would the capital have come from with about a third of the twenty biggest banks in Murica and Europe ceasing to exist and the rest taking huge Ls? You think you can I DECLARE BANKRUPTCY! and then within sixty days many trillions of liabilities and assets get sorted out and sufficient new capital that doesn't come from a government money printer go brrrr appears by some other kind of magic?

 

[Larry David's Opera Cape]

How bad was Bush hate? I was a kid during his administration and a teen through most of Obama's administration. I remember trump getting elected months after I graduated hugh school. Only thing I remember bush for was family guy gags about him. I remember Obama worship.

It was pervasive and hysterical. The worst part is that he deserved to be hated, but not for the reasons they hated him. They hated him because he was republican and so yada yada yada he wants to force women to be pregnant and put gays in camps. Only the most thoughtful critics actually articulated a position against the Iraq war or any of that shit. It was mostly just "rightwing bad. Rightwing not let us fuck. Rightwing no fun. Fundies bad."

I saw lots of graffiti of "Bushitler" and him drawn to look like a chimp, sometimes a chimp with a swastika.

 

[Day of the Cope]

We should have never bailed out the banks.

Reminder that the government is entirely the blame from the start. They are the ones that pushed the banks to give loans to people unable to pay them back in order to increase house ownership.

 

[Polyboros2]

Question, what exactly do extremely rich people eat? Not Trump I mean liberal elite WEF types.

Babies.

Literal human fetuses.

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

Yeah no. I actually remember what the day Lehman collapsed and the day after was like, the panic that half or more of global private credit was about to go poof in the next ~72 hours was real and it was spectacular. Whether it really would have if Washington had said not our problem isn't very relevant, that's why it's called panic and not judicious concern

Two months lol are you for real, where would the capital have come from with about a third of the twenty biggest banks in Murica and Europe ceasing to exist?

It would not have been nearly as bad as what's coming now because we didn't let it happen then.

 

[Trust Me I Know]

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She joined for the same reason everyone else does, future connections.

 

[Mr. Smiley Good Fella]

It’s funny how every election cycle they bring out some unknown person with the last name Trump to attack Trump’s character. First it was his dead oldest sister and now it’s his nephew. They’re going to have a Trump family reunion on MSM.

Dude’s name is literally Frederick III, they cooked up 2 other Fredericks before him.

 

[Wendell Stamps DoL]

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If she was that smart it would be impressive true. The problem is she isn't, she's just a two faced cunt who sides with power. There's no such thing as a respected Indian sorority.

 

[General Emílio Médici]

Bush got hated for a lot of things that weren't exactly his fault but not hated enough for a lot which were. And of course it is very amusing to see people who were crazy with Bush Derangement Syndrome back in the '04-'08 period turn around to support the exact same shit under Obama and hate Trump for not doing it.

Speaking of former presidents, how is Biden? The man is THEORETICALLY the POTUS right? Anyone seen him?

 

[Mr. Smiley Good Fella]

Speaking of former presidents, how is Biden? The man is THEORETICALLY the POTUS right? Anyone seen him?

He’s telling young girls on their birthday to save their flower for him.

Happy birthday I freed your daddy, now I’m going to abuse you as reward.

 

[Rimanah]

I would have split the difference at bailing out the banks, but the CEOs must have their blood harvested in installments until the debt is paid off. If they are of poor health, well then their blood will simply be drained for the rest of their natural lives.

Capitalism isn’t really working if people can fuck up as much as the bankers did and they don’t end up permanently homeless bums we can all spit on and abuse. Every dollar they earn in any job they can get should be garnished for two dollars. Bail out the banks, sink the bankers.

The problem is that the banks had contracts with the CEOs and other bankers that required those payouts.
Now, it’s easy to say “well they should just not pay them, and the courts should have refused to enforce them.” But that’s really bad precedent for future cases for courts to just decide what contracts are and aren’t enforceable because of global crises.
In fact, its arguably a non-judiciable political question.

Which is why the politicians should be strung up too. Because you can easily fix this via legislation. Condition the bailouts such that none of the money can be paid to cover CEOs. Then make changes to federal and state bankruptcy laws to prevent the executives recovery there too.
But they didn’t, because they weren’t concerned with justice or serving the people. They wanted to make sure the benefits still flowed.

 

[Prester John]

It was pervasive and hysterical. The worst part is that he deserved to be hated, but not for the reasons they hated him. They hated him because he was republican and so yada yada yada he wants to force women to be pregnant and put gays in camps. Only the most thoughtful critics actually articulated a position against the Iraq war or any of that shit. It was mostly just "rightwing bad. Rightwing not let us fuck. Rightwing no fun. Fundies bad."

I saw lots of graffiti of "Bushitler" and him drawn to look like a chimp, sometimes a chimp with a swastika.

There were lots from the left who hated him for the Iraq War. The problem is that the Democrats put up John Kerry as their candidate, who famously actually bragged that he "actually voted FOR the Iraq War BEFORE he voted against it." That became the sound bite of the campaign.

So Kerry was painted as a flip-flopper, quite credibly I must say. Also, most people during Bush's 1st term wanted Bush to invade Iraq and it took until the 2nd term for them to flip-flop like Kerry did.

 

[mandatorylurk]

It's starting to feel like the Meatball faggots who still infest the GOP, upset with Vance being the pick, are trying to sabotage Trump now, acting like his campaign is faltering. He raised $138 million in July, has $350 million cash on hand, and is going to multiple events a week. So many fucking chicken littles who think Trump was going to stay at his post-shooting high until November. Whatever lil' Ben Shapiro is saying, do the opposite.

Trump outperformed in '16 and '20 but now we're to believe these fake push polls? Faggots.

This is what they're left with, some pathetic attempt at bipartisanship, and look at the engagement, this is what it really is for democracts when not astroturfed on Kamala HQ or Kamala's Wins accounts.

 

[Larry David's Opera Cape]

There were lots from the left who hated him for the Iraq War. The problem is that the Democrats put up John Kerry as their candidate, who famously actually bragged that he "actually voted FOR the Iraq War BEFORE he voted against it."

So Kerry was painted as a flip-flopper, quite credibly I must say. Also, most people during Bush's 1st term wanted Bush to invade Iraq and it took until the 2nd term for them to flip-flop like Kerry did.

Kerry was a disappointing nominee. I don't think he was anyone's first choice, except perhaps the DC fatcats. There was a lot of enthusiasm behind Dean. He was basically kneecapped by the media because he said "woo hoo" a little too loud. Weirdest incident, obviously the insiders were looking for any excuse to get rid of him.

 

[Rimanah]

“I didn’t hate working it her” -Marco Rubio
Wow Kamala. Thanks, very cool.

 

[Hey Johnny Bravo]

John Kerry

That fucking puke is a lolcow unto himself. I cannot wait to piss on his grave.

 

[Some Dumb Faggot]

It's starting to feel like the Meatball faggots who still infest the GOP, upset with Vance being the pick, are trying to sabotage Trump now, acting like his campaign is faltering. He raised $138 million in July, has $350 million cash on hand, and is going to multiple events a week. So many fucking chicken littles who think Trump was going to stay at his post-shooting high until November. Whatever lil' Ben Shapiro is saying, do the opposite.

Trump outperformed in '16 and '20 but now we're to believe these fake push polls? Faggots.

This is what they're left with, some pathetic attempt at bipartisanship, and look at the engagement, this is what it really is for democracts when not astroturfed on Kamala HQ or Kamala's Wins accounts.

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Reminder that this is what a real poll looks like for Kuntmala vs the 260 person ones the Act Blue bots shill.

 

[Rykel22]

It's starting to feel like the Meatball faggots who still infest the GOP, upset with Vance being the pick, are trying to sabotage Trump now, acting like his campaign is faltering. He raised $138 million in July, has $350 million cash on hand, and is going to multiple events a week. So many fucking chicken littles who think Trump was going to stay at his post-shooting high until November. Whatever lil' Ben Shapiro is saying, do the opposite.

Trump outperformed in '16 and '20 but now we're to believe these fake push polls? Faggots.

This is what they're left with, some pathetic attempt at bipartisanship, and look at the engagement, this is what it really is for democracts when not astroturfed on Kamala HQ or Kamala's Wins accounts.

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The swamp creatures cling on like the parasites they are, hoping for pats on the head and cash in their back accounts.

 

[XYZpdq Jr.]

With all the bush talk, it's interesting considering the vitriol towards Trump that I look forward to seeing a future republican president coming in and seeing the media do a 180 on him

"he was able to laugh at himself enough to have lunch with The Grimace and be in wrasslin'!"

I hope every fella here finds himself a girl that look at him like Trump looks at fast food slop.

melania (et al) is just a beard for his true love, Big Mac

 

[General Emílio Médici]

There were lots from the left who hated him for the Iraq War. The problem is that the Democrats put up John Kerry as their candidate, who famously actually bragged that he "actually voted FOR the Iraq War BEFORE he voted against it." That became the sound bite of the campaign.

The Iraq and Afghan Wars weren't actually unpopular at first. What actually caused people to sour and turn on them was:

1- Casus Belli

They were told they went to Afghanistan to find Osama, and to Iraq to find WMDs. Both reasons turned out to be false. In Afghanistan's case it could have been a understandable mistake as Osama did spend a lot of time there but in Iraq it simply was not.

2- Length

Both wars were not really sold as wars in a way most people understand it to be, but actually military operations. The expectation was to see a repeat of Desert Storm where the USA would show up, use massive firepower and shock and awe to deliver one huge blow, and be done. What actually happened was that there was a invasion, but then they decided to stay around and partake in the complete farce of "nation building" trying to LARP out a post-WW2 style reconstruction when no one wanted it other than lobbyists who would get paid.