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George Lucas said:
So Morning Consult, Reuters, Daily Kos, CBS, and internal polling is all conspiring to make Harris number one in the polls? Here’s an idea. Maybe Harris is, idk, ACTUALLY POPULAR?

Baris is a meme and will say that internal polls are the most accurate when it favors Bush and then will say they’re super biased when it shows Democrats winning.
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You might have a point if those polls weren't leaning Democrat as heavily as they do. If you actually bother to dig in to the details of the polls, this becomes obvious. Here's the full report for the Daily Kos national poll that has Harris at +4 that came out last week. If you go all the way to page 47 at the end of the report, you'll see that they have the following demographic information for the poll:

Party ID:
Democrat 36%
Republican 31%
Independent 33%

Gender:
Female 53%
Male 47%

It shouldn't be at all surprising to you or anyone else that Harris comes out ahead in this poll. It's also a national poll, which means fuck all because the election is really about 3 - 7 different swing states in a given year. National polls just water down the results with dipshits from California, Massachusetts, and any number of other states that don't matter.
 
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George Lucas said:
So Morning Consult, Reuters, Daily Kos, CBS, and internal polling is all conspiring to make Harris number one in the polls? Here’s an idea. Maybe Harris is, idk, ACTUALLY POPULAR?

Baris is a meme and will say that internal polls are the most accurate when it favors Bush and then will say they’re super biased when it shows Democrats winning.
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It's called response bias. After Biden dropped, Democrats were more willing to speak, causing them to be overrepresented in their sample. This is why their polls match traditional Dem-friendly internal polls. I know numbers and reading are hard for you, but have you tried actually looking at the data before making an opinion?
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George Lucas said:
So Morning Consult, Reuters, Daily Kos, CBS, and internal polling is all conspiring to make Harris number one in the polls? Here’s an idea. Maybe Harris is, idk, ACTUALLY POPULAR?

Baris is a meme and will say that internal polls are the most accurate when it favors Bush and then will say they’re super biased when it shows Democrats winning.
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With critical thinking like this, it really was no wonder why Kingdom of the Crystal Skull was such a piece of shit
 
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George Lucas said:
So Morning Consult, Reuters, Daily Kos, CBS, and internal polling is all conspiring to make Harris number one in the polls? Here’s an idea. Maybe Harris is, idk, ACTUALLY POPULAR?

Baris is a meme and will say that internal polls are the most accurate when it favors Bush and then will say they’re super biased when it shows Democrats winning.
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While support may indeed be coalescing around Harris, we shouldn't ignore the possibility of poll herding either. If you're wrong, it's better for your credibility as a pollster to be wrong along with everyone else rather than being an outlier and wrong. In 2016 Nate Silver cited this as one of the reasons why virtually no poll predicted a Hillary loss.
 
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George Lucas said:
So Morning Consult, Reuters, Daily Kos, CBS, and internal polling is all conspiring to make Harris number one in the polls? Here’s an idea. Maybe Harris is, idk, ACTUALLY POPULAR?

Baris is a meme and will say that internal polls are the most accurate when it favors Bush and then will say they’re super biased when it shows Democrats winning.
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Morning Consult, Reuters/Ipsos, Daily Kos/Civiqs, CBS/YouGov ALL overestimated chomo joe in 2020 by a ton!

It's not a 'conspiracy.' They don't have to contact each other. All they need to do is be neglectful in their sampling, their data collection, their weighting of particular demographics, their question design, et cetera. Keep in mind the aforementioned pollsters also overestimated Democrat performance in 2022. They want to create good news for the D's! The fact that Trump was still ahead in their polls against chomo joe this cycle only meant that chomo joe was doing so atrociously that he was going to lose in a modern day landslide. cacklin kamala is nevertheless doing worse than 2020 polling for chomo joe
 
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mlanguishi said:
Representative Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) said on this week’s broadcast of “CBS Sunday Morning” that President Joe Biden should be added to Mt. Rushmore.

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No one should be added to Mt. Rushmore. Whenever the topic is brought up it's always FDR at the forefront and that'd be a fucking disgrace. Republicans would probably want Reagan too and while not as bad it would still be an insult to the other 4 already on there.
 
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Irene and 22 others said:
You might have a point if those polls weren't leaning Democrat as heavily as they do. If you actually bother to dig in to the details of the polls, this becomes obvious. Here's the full report for the Daily Kos national poll that has Harris at +4 that came out last week. If you go all the way to page 47 at the end of the report, you'll see that they have the following demographic information for the poll:

Party ID:
Democrat 36%
Republican 31%
Independent 33%

Gender:
Female 53%
Male 47%

It shouldn't be at all surprising to you or anyone else that Harris comes out ahead in this poll. It's also a national poll, which means fuck all because the election is really about 3 - 7 different swing states in a given year. National polls just water down the results with dipshits from California, Massachusetts, and any number of other states that don't matter.
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31% Republican? Republicans only make up 25% of the population. Seems like it’s already skewed to Trump’s favor. And the angry Cheeto man STILL LOSES.
 
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Gehenna said:
It is such an obvious, blatant ploy and it -infuriates- me that they no doubt think this is actual 4D chess and they are masterminds.
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I hope they never learn, it's always to his advantage when they underestimate him. He'll probably fuck up their plan at step 3, and instead of retaliating and cancelling the abc debate magnanimously agree to it so she can open her mouth and the American public can watch the stupid fall out.
 
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Drumpf winning would be the end of a saga, almost like a book. Man spends his whole life in service to the Regime, and then in 2016 revolts. He is fought every step of the way and "defeated" in 2020. Now with every institution and news media against him, he wins again and enacts his vision for the country at the end of his life.
 
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Ensok said:
No one should be added to Mt. Rushmore. Whenever the topic is brought up it's always FDR at the forefront and that'd be a fucking disgrace. Republicans would probably want Reagan too and while not as bad it would still be an insult to the other 4 already on there.
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As an American, defacing a mountain with a large and obnoxious carved monument to government statesmen is already insulting to me.
 
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Drag-on Knight 91873 said:
Would be funny if it happens, but pretty sure Dems will stick to Kamala because they literally have no one else.
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They have to stick to her because dropping ANOTHER candidate would look even worse to independent voters unless they false flag assassinate her and put in some other guy.

I don't think she'll lose the debate anywhere near as bad as PedoJoe. They're going to make sure that mistake doesn't happen again, and Cameltoe is actually sane of mind and not a nursing home patient.
 
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