Weight loss support thread

[latinlover]

I had a bit of a breakdown in March and went on an impromptu 7 day fast. Lost ~20 pounds in a week, that was pretty fun. Had ~230 to go, but, yeah. I'm now ~12 pounds heavier than I was before the March fast. Not quite my heaviest, but pretty close.

I'm heavier than Boogie2988, apparently. After his weight loss and maybe after his rebound -- I'd genuinely do a swan dive off the nearest bridge if I was over 500 like he was. Which is a fuck me moment cause I'm pear shaped and don't, er, notice it. Sneaks up on ya, ya know?

In the end, you get the body shape that reflects your lifestyle, eh?

Local quick care is advertising Ozempic / semaglutide injections for a decent price. Little over $125 first week, little over $30 each week afterwards... I presume the actual drug is included in that price and it's not just the office visit. I'm still kinda waiting for the other shoe to drop on that one before trying it, I'm hearing it can fuck up your dopamine receptors permanently, and having brain damage that prevents me from feeling joy ever again isn't on my list of fun things to try this year.

I'll be honest with you, I genuinely would like to see everyone do good, and I feel like you need some tough love now.

Let's be real- weighing 400 lbs is insane, which I assume is whereabouts you are considering you said you're heavier than boogie2988 currently is. I'm sure your current weight has many issues both physical and mental, the latter partially stemming from the first, eg. if you're a man you likely have criminally low free test levels which will fuck up your life. You're likely suffering from obstructive sleep apnea, which also affects your daytime energy levels among many other things. You likely have many many magnitudes higher risk for cardiovascular and other shit to go wrong. etc etc.

I got mad earlier in the thread at some retard trying to shill DNP just a bit too suspiciously, which is actual poison for extremely marginal benefits. By actual poison I don't mean it may or may not have lasting or temporary side effects that somewhat affect your quality of life, I mean it is more likely to kill you than not. It is also illegal, I am not aware of any country adminstering it to humans. None.

Ozempic is a bit different though. First of all, it's legal, you can get it from a doctor and don't have to order plant fertilizer from fucking aliexpress, it's essentially adminstered and monitored by an actual healthcare professional. It does fuck with your dopamine receptors. Is it permanent? I don't fucking know. Noone does at this point. If I had to vote, I'd say probably not. There's a lot of PEDs that WILL fuck you up hormonally and in many other ways, eg. tren being an actual neurotoxin that will make you into a drooling, forgetful retard after years of abuse- Ozempic I don't think is like that, there's no indication it causes lasting, irreversible damage- or at least I couldn't find any conclusive studies about it. It also works. You will not be able to eat as much as you did before, you'll feel violently, physically sick if you do. It's not like clen or dnp or whatever that marginally increases your BMR; you can just out-eat that, and you likely will if you've gotten to the point where you're 400 lbs, so I wouldn't consider those options if I was you anyway. On a side note, for those two compounds the essentially guaranteed side effects are worse than what ozempic can have in the literal worst case scenario. You are going to lose weight on Ozempic, guaranteed.

Let's play devil's advocate and assume the absolute worst about Ozempic: let's say it does fuck with your dopamine levels, maybe irreversibly so. It surely doesn't to the extent where you suddenly become some joyless lobotomized retard, that's for certain. Obesity is much worse- physically, mentally, and spiritually. It will kill you, sooner or later, in more ways than one.

If you've gotten to the point where you've let yourself go so hard that you woke up one day and realised you're 400 lbs chances are you won't be able to suddenly put yourself into a severe caloric deficit, and not relapse.

My advice: just try the fucking Ozempic, brother, and try to work with an obesitologist to make a plan in regards to your lifestyle and diet. If you're suspectible to the side effects you can look for alternatives. Also start moving, there's a weightlifting thread aswell if you're interested in that, otherwise I'd do certain cardio machines that don't put pressure on your knees (do NOT start jogging now, you'll fuck your joints up). If you're male look into a clinic offering TRT. Good luck man.

 

[AgendaPoster]

I had a bit of a breakdown in March and went on an impromptu 7 day fast. Lost ~20 pounds in a week, that was pretty fun. Had ~230 to go, but, yeah. I'm now ~12 pounds heavier than I was before the March fast. Not quite my heaviest, but pretty close.

The issue with fasting and this impulsive dieting behavior is that it does not offer a long term plan, and overweight people need something that will last the whole life, not just months. It's never gonna be "over". You're not supposed to return to "having fun again" and eating whatever you want. You'll always want to keep things in check and live an active life that keeps you in shape and burns calories.
I would start by just changing diet to something filling and low cal. There are many examples. You'll learn to hate or just disregard food. Your body will learn to no longer crave fast food, sugar and all sorts of poisonous stuff in a week or two. You'll drink lots of water, nothing else. And beyond the first 2-3 days, things will be fine.
As you get lighter, activity is a must. Walk a lot. Spinning bike if you can. You will lose a LOT of weight for months, so progress should get you hooked.
It's really not that hard, and as you get used to it, you will switch from being desperate for some chicken wings to being sad if you miss a workout.
The thing is to start doing something and keep things going for the first hard weeks.

 

[MajinGoku]

will gaining muscle from lifting be more effective at fat loss than cardio?

 

[rebel]

I'm fat, and I always get tempted into ruining my diet at family gatherings, parties, etc. It's like, am I just going to turn down a chocolate cake or fried chicken? I always end up failing to find any solutions.

 

[Redoniblueoni]

I have another yummy treat I've tried recently for anyone interested. These are "protein chips" made from shavings of chicken and egg whites. 20 chips has 10g of protein and only 8g of carbs. They're a pretty satisfying snack and I found this flavor at a discount grocery store but there are more flavors. Tastes like a little dehydrated Buffalo chicken wing. 20 chips doesn't sound like alot but I felt satisfied after half of that.

 

[RandomTwitterGuy]

I'm fat, and I always get tempted into ruining my diet at family gatherings, parties, etc. It's like, am I just going to turn down a chocolate cake or fried chicken? I always end up failing to find any solutions.

My solution is to live with it.

I eat and drink what I want at gatherings. It does affect my weight loss in the short term, but that only means my weight loss takes longer. If you get stuck in a cycle of self-hate and giving up, you will never make it.

Now, I might try to limit myself at a gathering and have one slice rather than five. However, diet is a long-term goal. In the long run, you want a normal diet, and that includes times when eating unhealthy is the norm. And that is okay as you go back to lower calories AFTER.

 

[Taxidermied Rat]

will gaining muscle from lifting be more effective at fat loss than cardio?

No. Calorie restriction and cardio will always be the fastest and most efficient way to loose fat. However for many people fat loss is also about getting a better looking and feeling body. For a lot of people, part of that will be muscle growth and weight lifting. Since loosing fat won't automatically make you stronger or give you a six pack (though it does help with both).

To simplify it: If you want fat loss, cardio. If you want muscles, weight lift. If you want both at the same time do both activities at the same time, though generally progress in both areas will be a bit slower.

 

[Raisincrest]

Wilde Chips

That's not too shabby carb-wise. It's about 6g net carbs per serving (i.e., about 20 chips), though I'd likely only eat 10 for a total of 3g net carbs. For those who only use total carbs, it would be 8g per serving.

So, for the sake of variety or dietary restrictions, having an alternative to pork rinds for 4g - 8g total carbs (or 3g - 6g net carbs) doesn't sound too bad.

Good find, thanks for the heads-up.

 

[Redoniblueoni]

So I pretty much lost all the weight I was complaining about a few months ago. It took me longer than expected because I lost it just by restricting which lead me to an off/on again thing that wasn't very good. I'm firmly in the normal bmi which is nice and due to recent weight training am also feeling quite strong. Now, I have a goal of 10 pounds in 2 months. This I think is not too far fetched given I've done a low carb for a few days now, with exercise, and it might be more sustainable. The exercise has me really motivated to be able to see the gains I make at the gym and that involves losing more body fat, even if I am at a "healthy" weight right now. I'd like to get a bit further from that overweight bmi line.
I will do low carb, very minimal sugary drinks if any at all, exercise daily (if possible) and keep this up. Because of those things I think it won't be so hard and I'll see change pretty easily.

Question: if losing weight but gaining muscle, will the scale change that much? Should I worry about specific numbers on a scale as long as I can feel and see the definition I'm getting?
Additional question: Is there specific foods/vitamins/supplements good for faster recovery times post workout? I don't like taking more than 1 rest day. I'm actually quite addicted to the gym from all this

 

[latinlover]

Question: if losing weight but gaining muscle, will the scale change that much? Should I worry about specific numbers on a scale as long as I can feel and see the definition I'm getting?
Additional question: Is there specific foods/vitamins/supplements good for faster recovery times post workout? I don't like taking more than 1 rest day. I'm actually quite addicted to the gym from all this

Question 1: As long as you're in the gym you don't have to worry about anything. As a newbie you can absolutely gain muscle on a cut (in a caloric deficit) while simultaneously losing fat. You will not materialize biomatter out of nowhere though so your speed of weight loss is still going to strictly correlate to the degree of deficit you're in- lifting weight obviously burns calories aswell, a surprisingly high amount actually so that will contribute to the overall weight loss if you stick to the same amount of calories and don't eat more due to the naturally increased appetite. Going to the gym will absolutely accelerate the speed at which you are able to see changes in your body composition.

Question 2: Just get a good multi, if you're a yuro Scitec's multi-pro plus is goated. In addition to that, you can buy regular, plain old creatine monohydrate and do 5g a day. If you're an absolute animal and freak of nature you can do l-carnitine aswell, however I would not advise you taking it orally (poor oral bioavailability+ potentially carcinogenic if taken through the mouth due to a byproduct), so you'd have to shoot it- unless you have a perverse attraction to needles though I don't think you will though and that's fine, there are very few people mentally ill enough to pin themselves with something the equivalent of a vitamin. I don't think anything else is worth your time, especially not at this stage, I'd recommend you to steer clear of all the fancy shit like BCAAs, it's snake oil. Protein shakes aren't magic either, they're just that, a dose of protein- if you're missing your macros for the day they could be useful.

 

[DrearyDoomguy]

will gaining muscle from lifting be more effective at fat loss than cardio?

More muscle=more calories consumed at rest. Resistance training won't burn more calories than cardio but it will facilitate the process long-term. Cardio and weightlifting, particularly compound exercises, complement each other and it's prudent to have variety in your workout. Just be aware that gaining muscle and losing fat simultaneously can be a tricky tightrope to walk. You need to be on top of both your macros and your caloric intake.

 

[soft breathing]

I've passed the -9lb mark today,

Hi guys, I'm just popping back in to say that I've passed the -16lb mark today.
Slow progress here, but it's still progress nonetheless I guess.

 

[A Crow Looked at Me]

Someone please bully me into losing weight. I was 5’10” 130 with an 8 pack in April. I stopped training and have binge ate my way back to 180. I’ve tried OMAD, intermittent fasting, meals every hour, keto, high-carb, high-protein, high-volume, nothing is working. I still hear the siren song of inhaling 10000 calories of pizza and peanut butter about once a week, with constant cravings to keep shoveling it in. I literally ate nothing but 2000 calories of greg doucette protein ice cream for a week but still found stomach space to pack in more garbage. I’m literally going to end up on my 600 pound life if I don’t stop.

 

[latinlover]

Someone please bully me into losing weight. I was 5’10” 130 with an 8 pack in April. I stopped training and have binge ate my way back to 180. I’ve tried OMAD, intermittent fasting, meals every hour, keto, high-carb, high-protein, high-volume, nothing is working. I still hear the siren song of inhaling 10000 calories of pizza and peanut butter about once a week, with constant cravings to keep shoveling it in. I literally ate nothing but 2000 calories of greg doucette protein ice cream for a week but still found stomach space to pack in more garbage. I’m literally going to end up on my 600 pound life if I don’t stop.

What changed since then? What are you doing now? As in, what are you doing everyday? Do you work? Work more. Do you do sports, work out, go to church, synagogue, mosque, whatever, go for walks, do literally anything? Do you have a significant other? Maybe just like how you feel shame right now you'd probably feel that if you had someone near you who you don't want to demolish pizzas and ice cream in front of.

My advice: Work more on yourself. Get new hobbies. Find someone you want to impress. I'll say this in the nicest way possible, you asked to be bullied though- stop being a drooling retard thinking about food 24/7. Get out more, as in physically, out of the house.

People have this concept about discipline that you have to have to be miserable and constantly push back the 'undesired' thoughts and it's so autistic that it constantly baffles me, you do this and you'll just end up in cycles of fasts and relapses. You can't solve problems this way, you cannot actively be at war with yourself 24/7 because you're going to lose, fast and in a spectacular fashion. Just do more shit that is mentally and physically tiring and occupies your mind enough, that's sort of how discipline works. You just do shit, every day, you don't think about it, you don't have to mindrape yourself everytime just to convince your reptilian brain to do the shit, you just get into the groove and don't get out of it.

 

[Mr. 0]

Someone please bully me into losing weight.

god DAMN you look like BOOGIE2988

also cook your own food instead of ordering it, maybe go on the wapanese diet: https://www.youtube.com/@JapaneseCookingChannel

 

[Redoniblueoni]

Someone please bully me into losing weight. I was 5’10” 130 with an 8 pack in April. I stopped training and have binge ate my way back to 180. I’ve tried OMAD, intermittent fasting, meals every hour, keto, high-carb, high-protein, high-volume, nothing is working. I still hear the siren song of inhaling 10000 calories of pizza and peanut butter about once a week, with constant cravings to keep shoveling it in. I literally ate nothing but 2000 calories of greg doucette protein ice cream for a week but still found stomach space to pack in more garbage. I’m literally going to end up on my 600 pound life if I don’t stop.

No offense but how did this happen? I've been watching the TV show fit to fat to fit recently where they have a personal trainer gain 40-70 pounds to get fat so they can lose it with the client and obviously it's a TV show but these guys have to eat so much for 4 months it's unreal. Completely indulging in desserts, fried foods, full sugar sodas ect. They play it up for the cameras but they showed one dude needed a hypertension med because he had eaten so poorly. I'd recommend watching that show because all the PTs end up losing the weight again through hard gym work and eating clean. Consider the fact you could be doing irreversible damage to your body. You can get fit again just stop with the bad foods and get back to the gym. Everything in moderation and balance

Edit: on second thought maybe skip the show if you're vulnerable to food porn because the scenes where they gorge are pretty tempting. But in the end the PTs always lose the weight, so hopefully that is inspiring to you that you can go back with just some hard work and eating well.

 

[soft breathing]

I’ve tried OMAD, intermittent fasting, meals every hour, keto, high-carb, high-protein, high-volume, nothing is working.

Nothing is working because you're not consistent.
You've tried ~7 different diets in the span of what? 4 months? You won't see results that way, mate.

Pick one that best suits your lifestyle, stick to it, move more, and get a hobby besides stuffing your face.

 

[A Crow Looked at Me]

god DAMN you look like BOOGIE2988

also cook your own food instead of ordering it, maybe go on the wapanese diet: https://www.youtube.com/@JapaneseCookingChannel

That’s part of the problem. I can’t stop eating my own cooking. I make 90% of my meals. I can and have binge ate 3K+ calories of plain oatmeal, eggs, cheese, chicken breast, broccoli, etc. and still feel like I’m starving. Even if I jazz it up with spices, sauces, brown sugar, it just makes me eat even more. Typically once a week I’ll go to a sit down restaurant and commit war crimes against food I can’t easily make (buffets, BBQ). I have no idea what a normal portion size is anymore.

No offense but how did this happen? I've been watching the TV show fit to fat to fit recently where they have a personal trainer gain 40-70 pounds to get fat so they can lose it with the client and obviously it's a TV show but these guys have to eat so much for 4 months it's unreal. Completely indulging in desserts, fried foods, full sugar sodas ect. They play it up for the cameras but they showed one dude needed a hypertension med because he had eaten so poorly. I'd recommend watching that show because all the PTs end up losing the weight again through hard gym work and eating clean. Consider the fact you could be doing irreversible damage to your body. You can get fit again just stop with the bad foods and get back to the gym. Everything in moderation and balance

Edit: on second thought maybe skip the show if you're vulnerable to food porn because the scenes where they gorge are pretty tempting. But in the end the PTs always lose the weight, so hopefully that is inspiring to you that you can go back with just some hard work and eating well.

FUCK. I just watched every episode in the last month. Disgusting reptile brain confession - I was using that and My 600lb Life for meal prep ideas. Think gigantic omelettes, entire pizzas, fried chicken, octuple burgers and fries and shakes. Mostly because I wanted to see if I would enjoy eating that way. I never did. I still don’t. I still feel the conviction to do it, though. I think Fit to Fat to Fit ruined a part of my brain because I got to see all the personal trainers shed all the weight seemingly instantly. It made me feel “accomplished” even though I was doing absolutely nothing.

How did this happen? Excellent question. In April, the company I work for got acquired by a different company. As part of the transition and retraining process, they offered us a catered buffet style lunch, every day, for 2 months. That was right after I had a god cut (160 to 130) over 3 months in winter and a 4 month religious dedication to Keto and NSUNS. Something between stress from work, feeling burnt out on my training, and having unlimited access to tasty food just broke something in me. I lost all control. In my heart of hearts I think I need to be stuffing my face every second of the day to feel happy. But I never do. What I’m searching for will never be satisfied by food.

Nothing is working because you're not consistent.
You've tried ~7 different diets in the span of what? 4 months? You won't see results that way, mate.

Pick one that best suits your lifestyle, stick to it, move more, and get a hobby besides stuffing your face.

I’ve tried to supplement my days with working out again, walking, cycling, gardening, art, gaming, seeing friends, visiting family, going to church, meeting new people. None of it is enjoyable. I never fit in and always just feels like “work” until I can go back home and stuff myself. I live alone, You are right, A huge part of this is because I’m lonely and have nothing better to do.

 

[ARIMASPOI]

Long time lurker, first time poster in the weight-loss thread.

I've beaten to most difficult game of all: Wii Fit
I finally got to hear the 'BMI ideal' sound instead of that 'too fat'-tune (yes, in week 364). My original BMI was 35

I'll continue to build up a margin, get it down to at least 23.

I'll celebrate this moment by going into another thread and calling a man 'Fatrick' without being a hypocrite.

 

[Redoniblueoni]

In April, the company I work for got acquired by a different company. As part of the transition and retraining process, they offered us a catered buffet style lunch, every day, for 2 months.

I understand. Free, easy and fattening food makes it very easy to gain. Office work too. My boyfriend always brings home free pizza, desserts, sides from his work since he got his job and of course I had to eat some. Always at like midnight too. That's what got me to my heaviest, since I would have that crap on top of my usual mid to poor diet. No big deal. You've got the wake up call, now you can set a goal and work on it.

Also noooo don't use the show for bad meal advice lol. I saw the cauliflower pizza, meal prepped chicken broccoli rice, and other healthy meals and got inspired in the opposite way as you. Slowly change your mindset about food again, instead of from satisfying a craving to fuel. Going to the gym helped me alot for this, because I know I can't eat poutines and nachos everyday if I want to feel the best before/after a workout. I've still had a couple yummy treats but maybe about once a week instead of every few days or so.

Also I lived alone for a year before bf moved in and again I get it. It was very hard to motivate to cook for myself. I'd suggest get chicken and beef then meal prep 2 different meals. Maybe a low carb burger+side and chicken broccoli rice meal. Gives variety, isn't hard to cook, and lasts all week. Satisfy yourself in your own meals and not with the work buffets or other indulgent meals. Also have lots and lots of protein so you feel really satiated. Like the various protein snacks I've posted. These help me fight cravings and have the added benefit of making me feel more full. Add them right after a meal if you still feel hungry. But overall I think ease into a new diet, so stuff can stick. Obviously these crash diets aren't working for you (like most of us).