The British Summer of Discontent - The growing civil unrest of the native British population, sparked by the murder of 3 young girls in Southport

Padding your arm won't work. They will take you to the ground and make your head bounce off it. They're not stupid and they're trained to do the job and counter the obvious tactics. The only counter is to put a hole in it or hit it so hard you kill it. Which requires you do the same to every other copper around or you can expect all of them to target you specifically with everything they have. Police dogs are very dangerous and they are well protected by the police. Fighting a dog is already difficult and fighting a dog and a bloke with a baton requires you have a shield wall or a wall of weapons to protect the man next to you and yourself.

You're recommending people go to all out war with the police and hope the police don't call the guys with guns to put you down when they start losing. Might not be the best idea.
I don't think you have experience dealing with dogs. In my hypothetical, the dog attacks your arm. Your arm is much higher than the dog is tall, so what does the dog have to do in order to bite your arm? It has to leave at least its front two legs off the ground when it rises to attack. Dragging a dog that has only its rear legs on the ground is not difficult. The main danger is losing your balance if the dog starts shaking and you get careless.

Let's humor your thinking and assume that just tanking a bite from the dogs is untenable. There's a lot of other stuff you can do to neutralize the dog. If the dog bites a piece of padding or clothing that breaks/tears away and then can't get its mouth open again, it's no longer a threat. You didn't even harm the dog - it just happens to have a mouth stuck firmly shut. I'll let the thinkers consider what sort of materials could accomplish that.

I'm not recommending "all out war." I'm recommending some brainstorming to counter what I think is inevitable aggression and brutality from agents of the State. I also think you overestimate the training of the people in those hi-vis yellow vests.
 
I (an American) followed a link from a news article posted earlier and this caught my eye, I had to check out the entire article:

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Is this normal? It's like my Uber driver being shocked that I say reckless drivers be arrested rather than simply impounding the vehicles. It's like they think violence just erupts with no reason, the knives and cars just do their own things I guess, like a Pixar movie.
 
I feel pretty awful about Britain of all nations being ground zero for something that I anticipate will reoccur more around the West as things get worse and people get angrier about mass immigration.

I really hope something comes of this. Islam is a disease and it should be expunged from civilized nations (and that shouldn't be a controversial opinion to have) but more than anything else I really want to see the craven faggots in your police force taken to task. They're open traitors and are fucking pathetic to boot.
 
I love the final two seconds. "Apologies Becky, we have to leave you there..." as if she became a hostage and realized they can't rescue her. They cut the transmission too, just in case she gets culturally enriched on Live TV.

God exists, and he has a great sense of humor sometimes. :story:
I genuinely believe that God has actually willed the Muslims to do what they're currently doing, but not for the purpose of creating a new Caliphate; for whatever reason-one I cannot for the life of me discern as I lack the grace to do so-our Lord and saviour really, really wants the Powder Keg that is the UK to go off, and he is not letting the media do anything to stop that from happening. Every time they try something, he directs the Muslims to the position he has ordained for them to make those who mock him (the same class of people who derided him at the Olympic opening cermony) appear as utter fools.

"O Lord, how marvelous are thy works. In wisdom hast thou made them all."
 
That's a LARP. Police dogs are trained to deal with flashing lights, being blinded by torches and having their hearing messed with. You're painting a target on yourself with all your toys. The only solution is a group of men armed with weapons and shields so the dog can't grab hold of any of them without getting it's legs or skull broke. And cops aren't going to send their dogs into a Roman style shield wall. They have tools to break those up and use the dogs to catch specific targets to wittle down the leadership.

Not flashing lights. I'm talking about one of these:

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It won't stop them for long but it would definitely disorientate them.

With that said, the Muslims have been dragging out weapons since day 1 during these protests, so would it really be all that unfair for our brothers to do the same?
 
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British patriots are going to have to put their heads together and work out strategies for dealing with police dogs.

My suspicion is that those dogs will bite the first target you offer them, which means a well-padded non-dominant arm should work to bait a bite. Once the dog is engaged, I would try to drag the dog and its handler away from the rest of the police lines. Once they're separated, neutralizing them as a threat would be much easier.

It looks like the dogs are mostly being employed as a weapon of fear. Working out strategies to knock out those fear tools should be a priority for groups of patriots who expect to tangle with police.
Exactly right. I assume you know Schutzhund training then? (I did Schutzhund with my Alsatians for years.)

For those who don't, the trainer's helper pads up the non-dominant arm and only uses that one in the attack so the dog grabs that arm. The dogs are trained to go for the arm with something in it, though, so no use offering them a padded arm and still trying to do something with something held in the dominant one. They are also trained to bear down and increase their aggression when you hit them with something in the other hand. They are trained to go for the arm, but they will also grip a hand. In a non-training situation, this is obviously really fucking bad.

The dog will not release until the handler gives the 'out' command. Trying to break the release by pulling away is how to turn a significant bite into a properly fucking bad one. If the dog gets you, stop fucking moving. Their natural instinct is to grip down when you move, and the training rewards that. You are not going to get immediate medical attention in a riot situation; you do not want a very bad dog bite, especially around the hand, if you aren't going to get seen right away. A Malinois has the bite strength to sever fingers if you give it the proper negative motivation. You run the risk of a genuinely life changing injury if you try to fuck around here. Be smart.

Remember the dogs are trained to protect the handler rather than to "attack on command", that's a misconception. They can and will chase down someone fleeing, they are trained to do this, but they are trained to not actually go for the suspect unless the suspect does something to endanger the dog or their handler. Do not in any circumstances attempt to attack the handler. A protection dog will, and regularly does, die before it will let you attack its handler. Do not try to bash the cop because the dog really, really will fuck you up then.

My dogs had to protect me physically once. I had seen them work in training for years. Their training drive was not comparable to their drive when they believed I was actually in physical danger. Do not be like the retards who came after me.

The key points:

- Pad both arms as much as possible. They have been trained to deliver a long holding bite. They are not fighting pitbulls, they are not trying to kill you, they want you to stop fucking moving. With sufficient padding, they won't even bruise that much.
- They are not trained to instigate an attack. They are not Yorkies after a rat. They are not attempting to maul you. They are attempting to immobilise you. Do not fucking move. Do not attempt to hit the dog. If the dog has run you to ground, it is over.
- The dog will not release without the handler's command, and attempting to make it do so will make it hang on tighter. Don't be a retard with a degloving injury.
- The hard counter to trained protection dogs are other trained protection dogs. A trained dog is a huge investment of time and money, not to mention the handler's bond with them. Handlers are not Michael Vick; they are very wary of doing anything that could harm the dog unless absolutely necessary.

The most key point:

- The dog only has the reach the handler allows it. If the dog is on leash, you are in no danger from the dog as long as you are beyond leash reach.
 
I genuinely believe that God has actually willed the Muslims to do what they're currently doing, but not for the purpose of creating a new Caliphate; for whatever reason-one I cannot for the life of me discern as I lack the grace to do so-our Lord and saviour really, really wants the Powder Keg that is the UK to go off, and he is not letting the media do anything to stop that from happening. Every time they try something, he directs the Muslims to the position he has ordained for them to make those who mock him (the same class of people who derided him at the Olympic opening cermony) appear as utter fools.

"O Lord, how marvelous are thy works. In wisdom hast thou made them all."
You're not far off, but think of it as God hardening Pharaoh's heart so that he continued to do what he had already committed to doing, in spite of all reason and common sense.
 
You're not far off, but think of it as God hardening Pharaoh's heart so that he continued to do what he had already committed to doing, in spite of all reason and common sense.
The Lord humbles all those who need a good smack in the face, and I cannot think of anything more humbling to the people who set the media narrative than what is currently happening to their world project.

It was never going to be allowed to happen, and it's crumbling apart before their very eyes. This is what happens when you try to tempt the Lord.
 
Padding your arm won't work. They will take you to the ground and make your head bounce off it. They're not stupid and they're trained to do the job and counter the obvious tactics. The only counter is to put a hole in it or hit it so hard you kill it. Which requires you do the same to every other copper around or you can expect all of them to target you specifically with everything they have. Police dogs are very dangerous and they are well protected by the police. Fighting a dog is already difficult and fighting a dog and a bloke with a baton requires you have a shield wall or a wall of weapons to protect the man next to you and yourself.

You're recommending people go to all out war with the police and hope the police don't call the guys with guns to put you down when they start losing. Might not be the best idea.
This is all just a bad dream. I hope we wake up soon.
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I'm pinging you since it won't let me quote your post. But yeah it's so fucking bad in Ireland. There was a village that was recently forced to taken in double its population in migrants.

You didn't mention the worst part about it though. Landlords are selling off their rental properties to the Irish government who in turn use then as accommodation for migrants. The bastards that owned the house my mom was staying at sold it and now migrants moved into it. Meanwhile, my mom, a working class woman in her 50 fifties, is living in a fucking caravan now.
Yer ma should have paid the €2 a week rent instead of freeloading then lmao
 
I (an American) followed a link from a news article posted earlier and this caught my eye, I had to check out the entire article:




Is this normal? It's like my Uber driver being shocked that I say reckless drivers be arrested rather than simply impounding the vehicles. It's like they think violence just erupts with no reason, the knives and cars just do their own things I guess, like a Pixar movie.
It's not normal. That area is about an hour from London and Birmingham by train or car. It's been flooded with immigrants because it's close enough to London to catch the train back or up to Birmingham making it the exact wrong place to be living if you're white.. The area has seen an increase in violence in the last decade as immigrants started having knife fights and throwing acid at each other. It's a dirty place surrounded by mansions and family estates for old money. Princess Diana is buried a few miles down the road and Londoners have their weekend homes to get an idea of how big the class divide is there.
 
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I assume you know Schutzhund training then?
I actually don't, so this was a really enlightening post. It does sound like the "correct approach" depends on understanding the training of both the dog and the handler. I'm going mainly off of first-hand experience with aggressive medium-size dogs of various breeds, and the introduction of the dog/handler dynamic is a critical difference compared to a dog by itself.

My armchair theory is based on the assumption that these handlers will be a bit reckless, lacking experience and probably a bit low on the morale side. That might not be the case. I simply don't know enough about the ins and outs of police culture in the UK.
 
Now that the white nativist riots/protests have died down the Muslim are now getting more organised and violent with no one to oppose them.
The disorder in Belfast tonight is very low energy and just seems to be youths starting shit for the fun of it.
 
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