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I'm a 53-year-old eurofag, and we actually did learn about DSDs in 6th grade. Back then AIS was called testicular feminization, and "intersex" was called hermaphrodism. We also learned about Turner 45X0 and Klinefelter 47XXY. (Yeah, you can make paleolithic jokes if you wish). This was taught along with the basics of chromosomes, hormones and what makes men male and woman female. Very basic, obviously, and the teacher explained it in terms that 12-year-olds could understand, such as what you "get" if your baby has one too many or one too few chromosomes.

Maybe the education quality has dropped since I went to middle school? Either way, this individual is functionally illiterate. We've established that much.
The only time it was brought up in my high school was when someone was dissecting a pig that ended up being a hermaphrodite. Even then, it was a quick 101 on how some babies get all fucked up in utero
 
I'm a 53-year-old eurofag, and we actually did learn about DSDs in 6th grade. Back then AIS was called testicular feminization, and "intersex" was called hermaphrodism. We also learned about Turner 45X0 and Klinefelter 47XXY. (Yeah, you can make paleolithic jokes if you wish). This was taught along with the basics of chromosomes, hormones and what makes men male and woman female. Very basic, obviously, and the teacher explained it in terms that 12-year-olds could understand, such as what you "get" if your baby has one too many or one too few chromosomes.

Maybe the education quality has dropped since I went to middle school? Either way, this individual is functionally illiterate. We've established that much.

My mum tutors a 12-year-old and yes, education quality has dropped immensely in the Western world.
Boomers are actually right when they say people are dumber than they used to be, it's the reverse Flynn effect.
 
This handsome young lady advertising their "Christian queer gospel" as well as a nebulous "business model" via sponsored post on Instagram. Looked extremely familiar. Could not put my finger on it until I happened to see reruns of In Living Color on TV.
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They are also married to a very supportive wife. She has four breasts so it's no problem at all to let Vera borrow a couple here and there.
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Hard to guess. I'd suggest it could be 5α-Reductase 2 deficiency like Caster Semeneya had. Basically the child is born phenotypically female but upon reaching puberty begins to virilise, as their body can't easily convert testosterone to DHT (which is responsible for a lot of early sex differentiation) but at puberty still produces and responds to near-male levels of testosterone.

The British Medical Journal reported four such athletes underwent genital surgery and gonadectomy to comply with the IOC rules (this was 2014). It crops up especially in isolated communities with inbreeding like one area of Puerto Rico where such children are called Guevedoche ("penis at twelve") and Papua New Guinea where they're called kwolu-aatmwol ("becoming a man-thing"). I do not know if there are clusters in Algeria but parts of Algeria have exceptionally high rates of cosanguinous marriage, with the Tébessa region of Algeria seeing 88% of marriages between first cousins.

It would explain why she was raised as a girl but has become so heavily masculinised, and she fits the profile of similar athletes who got sterilised to conform to IOC rules.She'd fail a karyotype gender test but without testes, she'd fall within the IOC's acceptable testosterone range (but having developed a male frame).
If everyone involved in this is telling the truth,( :optimistic: ) ie. He was thought to be female at birth, raised as a girl, legally a girl etc, and now as an adult looks like that. It's more likely than not that this is the exact DSD he suffers from.
The fact that everyone genuinely thought he was a girl until the puberty fairy brought him a penis, doesn't make any difference now.
He knows he's a man. His coach knows he's a man. His doctor knows he is a man.
And He is deliberately cheating.
 
So I was looking up an olympic runner and noticed her profile had "he" pronouns.

At first I thought maybe it was a translation error but none of the other women on the team have the same issue.

I hope this creates a scandal next. I don't think it's anything but a mistake, but still lol given the current controversy

 
My mum tutors a 12-year-old and yes, education quality has dropped immensely in the Western world.
Boomers are actually right when they say people are dumber than they used to be, it's the reverse Flynn effect.
Well, I'm a Gen X-er actually, but sure that is depressing to hear. I think the biggest culprit is lack of practice reading and writing. Today's kids aren't taught proper grammar, punctuation or sentence structure. We all hated grammar lessons (hence the Grammar Nazi expression) but I'm grateful I received the education I did in the 80's. Today's kids don't read books (and certainly not classics that actually test your reading comprehension) to the same extent that previous generations did. Instant messaging does not replace Jane Austen.
 
Well, I'm a Gen X-er actually, but sure that is depressing to hear. I think the biggest culprit is lack of practice reading and writing. Today's kids aren't taught proper grammar, punctuation or sentence structure. We all hated grammar lessons (hence the Grammar Nazi expression) but I'm grateful I received the education I did in the 80's. Today's kids don't read books (and certainly not classics that actually test your reading comprehension) to the same extent that previous generations did. Instant messaging does not replace Jane Austen.

Oh yes, of course you are, it was just because boomers are always complaining about the kids being stupid. 😄
Turns out they're right, I guess.

And I agree 100%.
I hated school but now I'm thankful for having been in school in the 90's and 2000's and for having intellectual hippie soy parents who didn't allow me to watch any TV before I was in primary school and for insisting I read books.
Because yes to those classics.

You know, when smartphones were new, I thought that humanity will become so educated and leave all ignorance behind because we now have all the knowledge of this planet always in our pockets.
Man, what a naive dumbass I was.
 
If everyone involved in this is telling the truth, ie. He was thought to be female at birth, raised as a girl, legally a girl etc, and now as an adult looks like that. It's more likely than not that this is the exact DSD he suffers from.
The fact that everyone genuinely thought he was a girl until the puberty fairy brought him a penis, doesn't make any difference now.
He knows he's a man. His coach knows he's a man. His doctor knows he is a man.
And He is deliberately cheating.
It is hard not to feel sympathetic, although that doesn't mean it's OK to compete.

The International Boxing Association performed a test on both Imene and the Taiwanese boxer.
download.jpeg "On 17 March 2023, both boxers were asked to take a further blood test. That happened, and on 23 March the results came through, and it demonstrated the chromosomes that we referred to within the competition rules – that make both boxers ineligible." In other words, XY chromosomes indicated chromosomal male sex.

The IOC doesn't do karyotype testing because they consider it a violation of an athlete's genetic privacy and think announcing to an athlete (and the world) "you're a man" can be very damaging to an athlete. They also attempted to argue that the IBA had faked the tests to discredit two athletes who'd bested Russian athletes.

The IOC instead base it on testosterone level
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The X marks the potential level an athlete can be at and still compete in the female category. This is noticeably higher than the levels typically associated with a castrated man; chemical castration is considered to take place at ≤50 ng dl −1. Surgical castration usually leaves the patient with testosterone levels <20 ng dl −1. For transgender women they require under 10 n/mol per litre for at least 12 months to compete, although Imene would not be classified as transgender. Obviously someone who went through male puberty and then dropped testosterone levels would still have benefits.

However they apparently dropped this blanket rule? Something about no longer requiring athletes to undergo "medically unnecessary procedures" in order to compete, ensuring a new fairness, inclusion and non discrimination framework on the basis of gender identity and sex variation. It is now entirely unclear what tests they do if any in any particular sports, and it really could be a case that they're just going "it says an F in her passport, so that means she can compete in women's boxing".

Like I said, I feel sympathy. It must be traumatic for a girl to suddenly start growing into a man and feel like a freak, and I guess discovering an aptitude for sports and becoming a professional athlete seems like a consolation, and if the IOC says you're not cheating then you might feel emboldened to carry on. But this is actually insane if there's factual evidence that this person is an XY male with elevated testosterone but the IOC is ignoring it because acknowledging it would be mean.
 
Saeko_Cut, who has been featured here before for his downright violent fantasies against women, loves to brag about how hormones changed his sex and how he looks so much younger and sexier than JKR. He is also the Troon known for keeping two month old curdled milk in his fridge.

The JKR tweet:
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In true Troon fashion, everything he says and does revolves around sex and porn.
He mentions Vaush on a tweet about dick sizes.
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410 lb leg press:
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More on his hips:
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Let's see those hips.
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Very womanly! Not a man at all! We just can't tell!

He also loves posting pictures of his non A cups, forgetting we can see he's wearing a push-up bra.
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Where are those hips, lad? Also, nice male cartilage.
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Even in the attempted big titty pic in the top left, they're still going two different directions. Also, the cup sizes changed from the top right and left to the bottom right. He's wearing a push-up bra in the top right.

The photo he just loves posting:
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Nice push-up bra, dude.

On the struggles of not trying to pass as a woman:
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Along with spoiled milk, he consumes nothing but soy. Tried to make a tongue in cheek comment, but admits it was all due to food insecurity as a kid.
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He also thinks he's actually getting female hips:
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But...wait for it...can't figure out why he's developing health problems.
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He's losing his hair, his soft "feminine" skin is cracking, and he's depressed and lethargic. Whore moans clearly aren't helping 😞

Since he's also friends with Oncloud_e, I might as well post these gems.
On the best time to start transitioning:
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"I do too much nail care, hair care, skin care, voice training and mannerism training to listen to someone like you."
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Because womanhood is all about training, right? Just like a sport at the Olympics.

Here's that skin, nail and hair care in action. First is a Fullmetal Alchemist cosplay. Guess which character.
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Don't you want those tube tits and skin rash blush?
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Hot.
 
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Saeko_Cut, who has been featured here before for his downright violent fantasies against women,oves to brag about how hormones changed his sex and how he looks so much younger and sexier than JKR.
How dare Rowling not look like she just walked out of a porn shoot. We all know any woman worth recognising as alive should look like they’re in porn. Goddamn stupid broads can’t even woman properly. No wonder so many men are trying to show them how to do it.

Lol at the idiot trashing his health for the coom. Carry on, dude, it’s really showing us :lol:
 
I mean... that's pretty much any female combat sport athlete though.

There's definitely a certain... type of woman who goes into serious athletics in general (think back to the field hockey team in high school). And then trim that group down to the ones that stick around for college sports or professionally, and then you filter one more time for combat sports, and this is what you get (even excluding troonery and DSDs):

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It's best not to play this game. It's just another form of the troon game of "spot the passing tranny" from a collection of filtered, cropped pictures.
Like I said, I feel sympathy. It must be traumatic for a girl to suddenly start growing into a man and feel like a freak, and I guess discovering an aptitude for sports and becoming a professional athlete seems like a consolation, and if the IOC says you're not cheating then you might feel emboldened to carry on. But this is actually insane if there's factual evidence that this person is an XY male with elevated testosterone but the IOC is ignoring it because acknowledging it would be mean.
That's where I sit.

There's no need to be cruel to this person. Expecting a lifelong woman to just go "yep I'm a man" in front of the whole world at a major international sporting event, and shitting on them for having trouble with that, is retarded.

But that doesn't mean that we need to let them compete either. Someone needs to be the adult in the room and say no.

Really, I blame the coaches and national organizations that field these athletes a lot more than the athletes themselves.

If 5ARD and related disorders were obscure 20 years ago, they're certainly not now. Every coach or recruiter who spots a really strong or fast, butch looking woman is at least aware there might be something funky going on. They know better.

They could be responsible and get them tested ahead of time, but I guess for these shitheads easier just to wait until it reaches the world stage and say "uwu are you gonna call this poor little intersex woman a man???". Genuine assholes here.
 
I'm sure in an incredibly misogynistic country like Algeria, they probably Reimer'd him because it might have been better to raise the weak, deformed boy as a girl.
No one's yet mentioned that he's clearly an extremely-angry-at-women sociopath. Look at his fucking face. This is a guy who's missing a dick and wants to torture and murder women for their crime of being accepted by society for having no dick. If he wasn't boxing women he'd be burying them in his crawlspace. If you think that's a stretch, just look at his fucking face. Something's wrong.
 
To be fair, most normies FREAK when they first encounter Middlesex people. They are pretty horrifying. Not quite Essex standard of awful (probably a Dylan Mulvaney on the Blaire White - Liz Fong Jones Troon scale).

Never has there been such a beautiful typo/lost in translation by an idiot. It’s beautiful.
 
There's no need to be cruel to this person. Expecting a lifelong woman to just go "yep I'm a man" in front of the whole world at a major international sporting event, and shitting on them for having trouble with that, is retarded.

But that doesn't mean that we need to let them compete either. Someone needs to be the adult in the room and say no.

Really, I blame the coaches and national organizations that field these athletes a lot more than the athletes themselves.
No. I don't agree.
I mean, of course we shouldn't be cruel to him because of the DSD he was born with, and I feel really, really bad for the poor terrified little girl who suddenly grew into a man instead of a woman, penis included.
That would have been legitimately horrifying for any woman, let alone an adolescent girl.
However, the decision to cheat was made after that child had (presumably) dealt with that situation and was going on with life, sports, training etc. When they entered the world stage they knew they were a biological male and had been tested previously and knew the results showed XY. The decision to cheat at the Olympic level was done with all that knowledge and the knowledge of the chance to be caught and the possible consequences.
This is not an intersex child being taken advantage of. This is an adult male with a DSD who is knowingly cheating and should be disqualified and have the reasons why broadcast in simple terms so every idiot can understand. That way the Trannys can't use him as a martyr of some kind and regular people aren't confused into agreeing with Trannys because they're the ones who sound like they know what they are talking about.
Edit: This all presumes he has 5α-Reductase 2 deficiency, which is what I think.
 
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The IOC doesn't do karyotype testing because they consider it a violation of an athlete's genetic privacy and think announcing to an athlete (and the world) "you're a man" can be very damaging to an athlete.
Well, why? Is there something shameful about just being a man? How is it "damaging" unless you're a cheater who wants to get an unfair advantage by pretending to be a woman while beating up real women?
 
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