Megathread SRS and GRS surgeons and associated horrors - the medical community of experimental surgeons, the secret community of home butchers

[The Jewel of the Nile]

Yes, there. That's precisely the point.

I have no idea what point you're trying to make so please elaborate. I have lived in a post-soviet country my whole life and I know firsthand what people think of such insane displays of faggotry. "Man in a dress" is still a comedic punchline.

 

[batteredpancakes]

Post RFF pooner emails a surgeon about getting a penile implant and gets a response telling her that they recommend patients not get them.
She's somehow thinks this is a strange response and asks r/phallo about this.
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I emailed UofM regarding implants/ED and was sent this reply just this morning. I have no idea what this means?? It’s so ominous and now I’m anxious. Does anyone know what they could be talking about? Literally why would they reply this way

Unsurprisingly, the pooners have their own explanations for this. Top comment thinks it is because this surgeon is incompetent. OP seems to want to schedule an appointment anyway despite being weirded out.

Oh look an update from her in the comments. She explains that she asked the surgeons team to clarify why and they say that it's because of the high complication rates and they are concerned over doing repeated surgeries. OP is upset that this team would actually try to deter her from getting an implant. She reiterates that she's still going to schedule an appointment with them anyway

The TiF replying to her is confused as to why surgeons would be so medically conservative and not want to do high-risk low-reward surgeries.

These girls have such unrealistic ideas about surgery that they are baffled when surgeons kill the good vibes by telling them that procedures can fail and that it's not all fun and games.

 

[TismFarmer]

"Man in a dress" is still a comedic punchline

Or an after the bar closes Punch-bag...

 

[Lady Bizness]

So many of them are virgins, it’s insane to me to think about wanting to own a dick if you’ve never actually interacted with one.

I can't stand watching women thoroughly degrade themselves so I don't go investigating on r/mtfpunished, but from what I've seen reposted on KF it seems most of those have not had phalloplasty. Just a thought, maybe their experience with dick gives them some reason not to try and have one.
These other girls though, they just can't possibly have ever really experienced dick because if they had they would immediately understand how silly, unappealing, and dysfunctional a "phallo" is.
There's some overlap with troons and how they view their stinkditches, but I think the self-castration kink combined with their coomer "a wet hole is a wet hole" mindset set them apart from pooner's flavor of genital ignorance.

 

[Iron Jaguar]

I have no idea what point you're trying to make so please elaborate. I have lived in a post-soviet country my whole life and I know firsthand what people think of such insane displays of faggotry. "Man in a dress" is still a comedic punchline.

Then go and read my original post and ask someone who speaks English to explain it to you.

 

[The Un-Clit]

Actually...

The clip you're referring to (and it's been posted here, I just can't be bothered to find it ATM) was not a guy shooting spooge out of his amhole, it was a nullo who simply had the entire package removed for... reasons. He wasn't on hormones or anything, and he wasn't trying to pass his crotch mutilation off as a "vagina". Oh, and since he wasn't on hormones or testosterone blockers, he still had a normal sex drive and ability to produce cum. It was just free of the lil' swimmers.

EDIT: I couldn't resist, here it is.

Huh....I knew the rest of it but my understanding was that he was a GRS failure that was left cock and ball-less, a nullo but not by choice. Thanks for correcting me!

 

[LanceHaver]

Oh look an update from her in the comments. She explains that she asked the surgeons team to clarify why and they say that it's because of the high complication rates and they are concerned over doing repeated surgeries.

The complication rate for phalloplasty surgeries is over 60% right?
From reading the last 100 pages or so, every single one ends up looking like a different kind of fucked up. The variation between them is honestly remarkable

 

[Iron Jaguar]

The complication rate for phalloplasty surgeries is over 60% right?

Well, yes.... because 100% is "over 60%".

 

[batteredpancakes]

The complication rate for phalloplasty surgeries is over 60% right?

Even worse. I have a breakdown of a paper investigating this.
The most common type of phalloplasty has an 80% complication rate.

I don't have the rates for the phallus implants though. It might be hard to measure as it's expected to need replacement after 5 years so the bar for "success" is low. I'm sure they're above 80% from what I've seen. Penile implants aren't even a good option for males and it's more of a last resort thing.

 

[Lady Bizness]

Big takeaway from years of following this thread: avoid surgery if at all possible. At least an appendectomy may be immediately necessary and the procedures have been time-tested, but broadening out my view of medical intervention, I'm thinking less is more.
Last time I spoke with my mother, the specialist was all gung ho about taking out a body part to alleviate some life long pain, but when she pushed him on it, she was going to need medication for life, a colostomy bag for life, and it would be a new life long pain. Nothing is cheap or easy!

 

[Fapcop]

Wee pooner worrying about size and healing of phallo.

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Very cute!

You should sell them on Etsy or something!

I’d gladly buy one, lol, it’s adorable!

Post RFF pooner emails a surgeon about getting a penile implant and gets a response telling her that they recommend patients not get them.
She's somehow thinks this is a strange response and asks r/phallo about this.
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Unsurprisingly, the pooners have their own explanations for this. Top comment thinks it is because this surgeon is incompetent. OP seems to want to schedule an appointment anyway despite being weirded out.
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Oh look an update from her in the comments. She explains that she asked the surgeons team to clarify why and they say that it's because of the high complication rates and they are concerned over doing repeated surgeries. OP is upset that this team would actually try to deter her from getting an implant. She reiterates that she's still going to schedule an appointment with them anyway

The TiF replying to her is confused as to why surgeons would be so medically conservative and not want to do high-risk low-reward surgeries.
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These girls have such unrealistic ideas about surgery that they are baffled when surgeons kill the good vibes by telling them that procedures can fail and that it's not all fun and games.

LMAO! These chicks are just batshit crazy!

“Oh wow! The expert who does these surgeries does not recommend this… Meh, what does he know!”

 

[Marvin]

It’s kinda a visceral horror to think of such vulnerable parts being on the outside of the body, just being there, needing to be dealt with all the time. I dunno how you guys do it.

Just lots and lots of practice.

Learning to not accidentally sit on your balls is a big one.

No wonder the pooners seem to think blokes stride around windmilling their footlong dicks all day long.

Frankly, the next innovation needs to be creating realistic testicles for the pooners. I don't just mean fake testicle implants, I know those exist. I mean something that truly transmits the level of pain when even barely tapped that real testicles come with.

Pooners need the authentic experience, y'know?

I have no idea what point you're trying to make so please elaborate. I have lived in a post-soviet country my whole life and I know firsthand what people think of such insane displays of faggotry. "Man in a dress" is still a comedic punchline.

I'm guessing the idea is that behind the iron curtain they don't tolerate that nonsense, but it's great to promote it in the free-wheeling, democratic western countries to fuck up their simple minded youth.

 

[UselessRubberKeyboard]

Even worse. I have a breakdown of a paper investigating this.
The most common type of phalloplasty has an 80% complication rate.

I don't have the rates for the phallus implants though. It might be hard to measure as it's expected to need replacement after 5 years so the bar for "success" is low. I'm sure they're above 80% from what I've seen. Penile implants aren't even a good option for males and it's more of a last resort thing.

How does a rotdog even survive surgeries every five years to replace the dickpump? They’re already scarred to bits and barely sensate. The whole thing makes no sense at all. Even without any of the usual complications (dehiscence, infection, fistula, a lil’ bit of neccy-weccy no worries everyone gets it, etc), four operations in 20 years (for example) on the same piece of flesh origami is surely going to render it useless? Just a lump of gnarled scar tissue?

Or do they cut an access hole underneath and pull the old tube n pump out, then jam the new one back in in the hope it fits into the cavity left by the old one?

Assuming it doesn’t need doing even sooner than every five years due to erosion, bits of the device migrating or just plain not working - all things pooners have complained about repeatedly. The whole idea seems insane, knowing it’s only supposed to last five years. Maybe if you’re an 80 year old guy, an inflato device might be a way to get your sex life back without having to take potentially damaging medication. But a woman in her late teens/early 20s? Absolutely batshit.

What happens when they run out of forearm and thigh skin for the ‘dogs? Then what? Do they start hacking bits off pooners’ arses, shoulders, belly? Are they going to try fashioning a rotdog from discarded tits when pooners go for their medically-approved self-harm scars?

 

[Fapcop]

Or do they cut an access hole underneath and pull the old tube n pump out, then jam the new one back in in the hope it fits into the cavity left by the old one?

The whole thing is so goddamn bizarre.

They have no erogenous sensation and little sensation over all. The partner gets to be penetrated by a cold, floppy-hard rotdog that will likely hurt because it’s so thick and long.

And don’t forget to use lots of lubricant because the rotdog won’t have any, and the ooor woman receiving is probably dry as a desert.

There’s no pleasure for anyone. It’s performative sex to keep the illusion alive that they’re totally real men.

 

[Iron Jaguar]

. I hate pooners way more than I hate troons,

Same here.

 

[melty]

How does a rotdog even survive surgeries every five years to replace the dickpump?

Wow, five years is way too short. That's only a year longer than an American presidential election cycle, which already seem way too frequent nowadays. A symptom of getting older. Of course, when you are very young like most of these girls, 5 years might as well be another lifetime, they aren't thinking that far ahead.

I wanted to see if it was really 5 years and found another article with more information that doesn't sound positive.

Survival rates for PP in phalloplasty have remained significantly lower than in non-phallo-plasty cohorts, with 5 year PP survival ranging from 75 to 78% [3, 5]. Infection thus remains a common reason for explant, occurring in about 8.5–17.8% of cases [3–6, 11, 12]. Contemporary comparative infection rates in non-phalloplasty groups, remain much lower and vary from 1.1 to 1.7% [6].

Mechanical failure, cylinder malposition and erosion rates reported in GGAS are unfortunately significantly higher than those reported in genetic males. Mechanical failure develops in 5 to 22% of cases [3–6, 11, 12], malpositioning ranges from 4.4-19.4% [3–6] and erosion occurs in 4.2-8.1% [4–6].

These higher incidences of complications results in more frequent PP revision surgery, which has been described ranging from 37 to 44% (mean follow up 45 months). Only Djordjevic et al. [11] in their series reported a significant lower revision rate, of 6.6% (mean follow up 43 months).

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8589655/

Also, to assume they are gonna live past 5-10 years, much less 20 or more...

 

[monstrous bubo]

Only Djordjevic et al. [11] in their series reported a significant lower revision rate, of 6.6% (mean follow up 43 months).

Djordjevic is a very experienced surgeon, but for some odd reason I doubt his figures Perhaps because he is also a hustler who is leading the experimental transplantation of genitals and gonads.

 

[UselessRubberKeyboard]

Of course, when you are a lot younger like most of these girls, 5 years might as well be another lifetime, they aren't thinking that far ahead.

Good point. Five years is so long when you’ve only lived for 18, 20 already. Add to that a lack of experience of what physical disability or long-term illness is like, and they really don’t have a clue.

Those figures are so sobering. I just don’t understand how pooners think they can have this device in and it’ll all be gravy. It’s not even the surgery every five years (if you’re lucky, by the sounds of it), but the infections, the implants moving to god knows where, eroding through the rolled-up arm skin etc. Maybe their rotdogs are so badly innervated that they don’t feel much pain - small mercy - but that’s damage to the ‘dog that’s not going to grow back. Then extra scarring every few years from more surgery.

It’s nuts. The whole thing is nuts. I get that they’re chasing the next dopamine hit of getting a new surgery to make them a super dude king bro, but you’d hope the medical industry would put their foot down over this. At least it sounds like this particular pooner’s surgeon isn’t happy about the implant surgery. There’ll be some money grubbing shyster somewhere that’ll agree to cut her up again, though, that’s guaranteed.

It’s worrying enough that these implants don’t seem to last long for men either, but at least their dicks are made for the whole down n dirty. Thinking about an implant eroding through the tip of a real dick gives me phantom crotch pain, and I don’t even have a dick. Fuckin’ ow.

 

[TismFarmer]

@monstrous bubo
Only Djordjevic et al. [11] in their series reported a significant lower revision rate, of 6.6% (mean follow up 43 months).

Is this the revision rate required or the revision rate performed?
Because from what I've heard of Djordjevic, the difference is quite remarkable!

 

[monstrous bubo]

@TismFarmer I’m just quoting the quote in @melty’s post which came from here https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8589655/