TGWTG Nostalgia Chick / Lindsay Ellis / TheDudette - aka Hotdogs in face girl

[Battlefield2142EU]

Someone tell me why far-left guys make this face so often.

Lindsay Ellie’s husband looks nothing like the baby.

 

[Mola Ram]

Lindsay Ellie’s husband looks nothing like the baby.

It's a lot paler than I expected.

 

[Ninon42]

Lindsay Ellie’s husband looks nothing like the baby.

Mr. Lindsay is the most beige of men, the Norwegian heritage did him no favors. She is obviously more into Kaveh (Mr. soyface above) and has been for years. It's why she made him the sex interest and actual hero in her book, wrote the entire epilogue about how much she loved him, did the podcast with him. That balding manchild is Lindsay's dream.

 

[Sneedmiser]

Lindsay Ellie’s husband looks nothing like the baby.

Spoony's revenge, this is his year.

 

[Random Internet Person]

Mr. Lindsay is the most beige of men, the Norwegian heritage did him no favors. She is obviously more into Kaveh (Mr. soyface above) and has been for years. It's why she made him the sex interest and actual hero in her book, wrote the entire epilogue about how much she loved him, did the podcast with him. That balding manchild is Lindsay's dream.

Nothing strikes me as a "wow, what a fine specimen" about this Kaveh dude. Maybe it's because I don't know anything about him.

 

[Disco Snake]

I read the previous two books. It seems like Lindsay quadrupled down on her worst habits. I didn’t expect her to go that batshit, and I’m tempted to pick up the third now.

Despite President Cheney averting the financial crisis via the powers of racism in the second book, the failing American economy is suddenly an in-universe problem. The new (?) financial crisis is triggered by America's new libertarian tea party candidate president Julian Todd, who was elected into office after Cheney. Due to everyone being terrified of evil aliens after learning of their existence in book 1, the new presidential administration/congress is spending way too much on space weapons/defense, and had to astronomically raise corporate and personal income taxes. You know, the sorta policies you'd expect from the very first libertarian presidential administration - drastic increases in both government spending & taxes

Spoiler: New Fag Book Sperging

This is actually an interesting premise to sink your teeth into. How would a libertarian president uphold their principles in the face of an existential threat and public outcry? Maybe there would be intra-party conflict between neocons and the libertarians. Maybe the tankies would find an unexpected ally in their anti-alien racism activism. A libertarian might want to cool down fears about the aliens to avoid more government spending. But because Lindsey is intellectually lazy, she opts to paint her ideological enemies as one amorphous blob and leaves all this juicy story potential untouched.

Lindsay cutting out the alien to focus on a human love interest is perhaps the most stereotypical thing she could do, and also one of the biggest things that'd alienate her core readers. They're reading for the alien romance, they don't want Cora to date human guys. How could you misunderstand it that badly?

I don’t think Lindsey misunderstands. I think she is terrified of being laughed at. She wants to be seen as a refined intellectual above all else, and it hampers the quality and marketability of her books. As horrifying as a sex scene between Cora and the space chicken would be, I rather read that than the bland, mind-numbing sludge that was TOD any day.

 

[Arthur Morgan]

Hasn't it been established that Lindsay is mostly writing for her own ego at this point? I'm not sure where "her readers" fit into that equation.

They fit into the "I'm so awesome that I deserve to have them buy my book regardless of content" part of the equation.

I am shocked, I thought the second book was destined to be the last, but figured "okay, third book, they just want to get the contract out of the way". But a fourth one is definitely happening? Unless she's planning on self-publishing, she has to be sucking someone off, unless she really did get a five book deal for her dumb series.

 

[Eventide]

This is actually an interesting premise to sink your teeth into. How would a libertarian president uphold their principles in the face of an existential threat and public outcry? Maybe there would be intra-party conflict between neocons and the libertarians. Maybe the tankies would find an unexpected ally in their anti-alien racism activism. A libertarian might want to cool down fears about the aliens to avoid more government spending. But because Lindsey is intellectually lazy, she opts to paint her ideological enemies as one amorphous blob and leaves all this juicy story potential untouched.

The neocon/libertarian conflict plotpoint is only interesting because Lindsay wholesale plagiarized it from this old Japanese Transformers doujinshi:



Plot of the doujinshi (Sorry, I forgot its name. It's from I think 1995, and made by a Japanese mangka that I believe worked on official Gundam stuff):

In 1989, the Soviets made a deal with the Decepticons, granting them unlimited energy/an autonomous zone in exchange for helping with the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan.
TLDR, the Soviet-Decepticon alliance takes over the entire Middle East within a few short years, triggering a massive oil crisis for the West.
In America, the John Birch Society has risen again to prominence, staging anti-Cybertronian rallies. The John Birch Society is furious the Autobots did not intervene (the Autobots were told not to by President Bush #1. Bush wanted to avoid Nuclear War.)
The John Birch Society wants to ban Cybertronians from having American citizenship (which President Bush is thinking about granting them for some reason).
While all this is going on, Starscream kidnaps Carly Witwicky so she'll be his human liaison. Starscream is creepy with Carly. Not in a romantic way, but like - since he studied humans scientifically, he assumes Carly, being a human female, will just inherently do whatever a powerful important man (i.e. Starscream) tells her to do (....were Starscream fangirls a thing in the mid 90's? 'cause that plotpoint felt like a reference to it).
It turns out, Starscream is the one pulling the strings of the John Birch Society (the Decepticons don't want a Cold War - they want to end things with the Autobots once and for all)

I don’t think Lindsey misunderstands. I think she is terrified of being laughed at. She wants to be seen as a refined intellectual above all else, and it hampers the quality and marketability of her books. As horrifying as a sex scene between Cora and the space chicken would be, I rather read that than the bland, mind-numbing sludge that was TOD any day.

Fair warning, the new book is way worse than TOD. Just page after page of characters political sperging, stupid tankies characters simping for Al Queda because they were victims of the sneaky lizard Jews, & extraordinarily boring underground lizard people that do not do David Icke's insane conspiracies any justice (like, how do you make David Icke boring? Sure he's a batsh!t antisemite, but his conspiracy about 4-dimensional shapeshifting lizard people that live underground and secretly control the government/British royal family is at least interesting). Cora also doesn't have much agency - like, things just happen to her. She's told to go here, she's told to go there, she stands around not doing much while the plot happens around her.

They fit into the "I'm so awesome that I deserve to have them buy my book regardless of content" part of the equation.

I am shocked, I thought the second book was destined to be the last, but figured "okay, third book, they just want to get the contract out of the way". But a fourth one is definitely happening? Unless she's planning on self-publishing, she has to be sucking someone off, unless she really did get a five book deal for her dumb series.

I don't think she'll get a 4th book, at least not from St. Martins Press. On Twitter, fans that went to Lindsay's signings said she stated that she hasn't been approved yet for the next book.

I can't imagine the 3rd book selling well. It's 2024 - if people really want to read the skitzo ramblings of an antisemite, they can just browse Twitter.

 

[Random Internet Person]

They fit into the "I'm so awesome that I deserve to have them buy my book regardless of content" part of the equation.

I am shocked, I thought the second book was destined to be the last, but figured "okay, third book, they just want to get the contract out of the way". But a fourth one is definitely happening? Unless she's planning on self-publishing, she has to be sucking someone off, unless she really did get a five book deal for her dumb series.

@Eventide i have to wonder if the plan Lindsay made was to get rights sold for streaming or something, and just coast on that to the completion of the series.

 

[Eventide]

Guys, I just noticed something in the new book (which I was re-reading because it's so terribly written I knew I missed a bunch of insane tankie plot details upon first read):
Lindsay might have referenced one of my comments from this thread in the new book (a comment I made 2 years ago). Not only that, she actually made said reference a dog-whistley attack on Jews. Dawwh, coming from a vehement Jew-hater like Lindsay, that means she really put some effort into said shoutout.

My 'farms comment she referenced, specifically this line:

Reference to Saturn baby eating imagery, because Lindsay is presumably one of those people who thinks Yahweh worship was an ancient Saturn death cult (like, an actual theory).
I'm surprised Lindsay is not partial to one of my personal favorite Yahweh theories (on the account of Lindsay being Appalachia trailer trash) - he's a crystal meth lab cook. (the website is a spoof site but its quoting a long-since deleted theory that was popular on conspiracy forums back in the 90's).

Book excerpt:

In the book excerpt, Cora, Sol (and 2 random Philippine government glowies) are discussing the underground baby eating Reptilian Aliens.
The Reptilians "would come to Earth to cook meth" because Lindsay is dog whistle-ing (in book universe) Yahweh = one of the David Icke Reptoid underground baby eating aliens....who distributed methamphetamines to ancient Jewish warriors (i.e. the group of humans "chosen" to work for him/told them he was God/aligned Jews to the Reptoid agenda), giving ancient Jews an advantage in battle. Ark of the Covenant = ancient meth lab is real conspiracy dating from the 1990's that I referenced in my old post. Weirdly I'm pretty sure a Mormon scholar came up with said theory back in the day. He wrote a book and ran a website about God condoning drug use in the Bible. TLDR, leave it to a Mormon to come up with a biblical justification for smoking crystal meth. But I digress...

It's possible I'm looking too much into this/being an autist, but considering it's Lindsay (i.e. an individual obsessed with being criticized on the internet/calls everyone who finds her video essays mediocre "diet nazis") it'd be an awful lucky "coincidence" (no antisemitic pun intended).

To quote a prophetic old comment:

it's kinda funny the people (KF) that lindsey hates is doing a better job of discussing her book than her actual fans.

i dont think her simpreddit ever delved this deep into her shitty books

if she wasn't such a cunt/hater, she'd probably commend ya'll for seeing all her little subtle hate on jews and shit, cause she'd be proud of her self or whatever

Would a shout out be the equivalent of being commended?

So anyway, should someone inform Null? I feel like he'd get a kick out of it.

 

[Disco Snake]

Book excerpt:

Two published books under her belt and she still writes like this.

On to your question, I don’t think it’s a purposeful shout out. It seems like AOM is just the “if you squint" comment in book form. I could be wrong though. Lindsay is petty enough to do something like that.

Spoiler: Potentially off-topic question:

Do you guys think Lindsay reads? I’m being completely serious here. I don’t know how else to explain her amateurish prose. It’s been four years since AE was published. Even if she only picked up a book every few months or so, her writing should be better than this.

 

[Mola Ram]

Do you guys think Lindsay reads? I’m being completely serious here. I don’t know how else to explain her amateurish prose. It’s been four years since AE was published. Even if she only picked up a book every few months or so, her writing should be better than this.

There is a shocking number of allegedly professional writers who claim they "don't have time to read." Given Lindsay's obvious bias for tv and film as a medium, I wouldn't be surprised if she reads fewer than three books a year. If that.

Who's the narrator of that passage? "Like they'd come to Earth to cook meth" is such a weirdly specific comparison it feels like it had to come either from a character or the narrator is just an irreverent, sardonic smartass ... which, come to think of it, is just Lindsay.

 

[Random Internet Person]

There is a shocking number of allegedly professional writers who claim they "don't have time to read." Given Lindsay's obvious bias for tv and film as a medium, I wouldn't be surprised if she reads fewer than three books a year. If that.

One thing I’ve seen a lot with authors is that they can’t stop talking about other authors they’re fans of. Even before Lindsay left Twitter, I don’t think she was ever like that.

 

[Ninon42]

A lot of trannies decide they must be the opposite sex based off of their own illusions, preconceptions and stereotypes which have nothing to do with reality but they project their emotions upon the idea of women, for example. In a similar fashion to a troon identifying as the opposite sex, Lindsay identifies as an author (because she's played one on the Internet). Anyone literate can put pen to paper and make words, but she craves the respectable status of artiste. This is a woman who made her career on tits, pigtails and reviews of children's movies with enough success that she can get her management and a major publishing house to go along with her delusions of grandeur literary talent and burn both their and paypig money to do it.

 

[Random Internet Person]

A lot of trannies decide they must be the opposite sex based off of their own illusions, preconceptions and stereotypes which have nothing to do with reality but they project their emotions upon the idea of women, for example. In a similar fashion to a troon identifying as the opposite sex, Lindsay identifies as an author (because she's played one on the Internet). Anyone literate can put pen to paper and make words, but she craves the respectable status of artiste. This is a woman who made her career on tits, pigtails and reviews of children's movies with enough success that she can get her management and a major publishing house to go along with her delusions of grandeur literary talent and burn both their and paypig money to do it.

Lindsay must be pissed that there’s no streaming deal for her work yet.

 

[Eventide]

Who's the narrator of that passage? "Like they'd come to Earth to cook meth" is such a weirdly specific comparison it feels like it had to come either from a character or the narrator is just an irreverent, sardonic smartass ... which, come to think of it, is just Lindsay.

Who else but Lindsay's miserable emotionally disturbed/BPD suffering self-insert that's descended from Nazis that escaped to South America, Cora.

On to your question, I don’t think it’s a purposeful shout out. It seems like AOM is just the “if you squint" comment in book form. I could be wrong though. Lindsay is petty enough to do something like that.

I'm a bit loopy from a bad ear infection/on a shit ton of antibiotics, so I might just be looking too much into things. But also Lindsay seems really petty and chronically online (despite claiming she quit browsing the internet because of her Raya cancelation drama) so I can't help but side-eye.

Also: @Disco Snake I sent you a PM (well technically 2 because I sent you the wrong one first because my fingers are numb from my antibiotic)

Do you guys think Lindsay reads? I’m being completely serious here. I don’t know how else to explain her amateurish prose. It’s been four years since AE was published. Even if she only picked up a book every few months or so, her writing should be better than this.

Probably not? In all the interviews/videos where Lindsay discusses these books, she makes a huge deal about about all the research & reading she had to do to write it, and how difficult it was to research the locations featured in the book/how government agencies operate/etc. A person who's an avid reader wouldn't find it difficult to crack open a book and research basic information. Or even Google it.

Meanwhile, Lindsay did a piss poor job of said research, because she thinks the CIA surveils American citizens within the continental United States, and calls CIA officers "agents" (Agents are FBI, CIA is always Officer). Besides, anyone with basic knowledge of Alien conspiracies knows it's always been the Air Force Special Operations Command hiding the aliens. In the 1970's, the CIA was too busy throwing South American socialists out of unmarked airplanes/smuggling coke as a side hustle, to deal with a bunch of giant psychic chickens from outer space.

Lindsay must be pissed that there’s no streaming deal for her work yet.

For some reason, I doubt most streaming companies and/or Hollywood are clamoring to adapt a YA Scifi romance novel about when the virulently antisemitic descendant of Nazis that escaped to South America falls in love and than immediately cucks, a Giant Trans Psychic Chicken from outer space (remember that "Ampersand is Trans" plot point from book 2? Pepperidge Kiwi Farms remembers).

 

[Arthur Morgan]

Guys, I just noticed something in the new book (which I was re-reading because it's so terribly written I knew I missed a bunch of insane tankie plot details upon first read):
Lindsay might have referenced one of my comments from this thread in the new book (a comment I made 2 years ago). Not only that, she actually made said reference a dog-whistley attack on Jews. Dawwh, coming from a vehement Jew-hater like Lindsay, that means she really put some effort into said shoutout.

So she reads the thread, but instead of taking the advice about making something her fans would actually buy, making a movie on streaming that her current base would actually check out, or putting up the old Nostalgia Chick vids so she can coast off the cash, she just stole a comment to try and make herself sound smarter.

Yep, that's on brand.

 

[Boston Brand]

My own theory? Lindsay has no attachments to being an author - it's just another opportunity for her to chase clout and authority, and to appear successful.

That's not uncommon, especially when it comes to lefty women in genre fiction. They have no love for the classics, or the craft, or no hunger to tell a story, they want to use writing as a way to go on the interview circuit, land academic jobs, appear important to all the chuds back home who teased them in high school.

Most give up when they realize that being a writer is a lot of work, a lot of luck, and not nearly as glamorous as they thought.

Lindsay could care less if it's filmmaking, science fiction, her stupid YouTube videos - what she wants to be is seen as important and/or famous.

Which is why her pivot to genre fiction is so damned hilarious. For every world famous author there are literally tens of thousands who will never be recognized.

She'd have had better luck sticking to the YouTube career which she hates.

 

[Random Internet Person]

My own theory? Lindsay has no attachments to being an author - it's just another opportunity for her to chase clout and authority, and to appear successful.

That's not uncommon, especially when it comes to lefty women in genre fiction. They have no love for the classics, or the craft, or no hunger to tell a story, they want to use writing as a way to go on the interview circuit, land academic jobs, appear important to all the chuds back home who teased them in high school.

Most give up when they realize that being a writer is a lot of work, a lot of luck, and not nearly as glamorous as they thought.

Lindsay could care less if it's filmmaking, science fiction, her stupid YouTube videos - what she wants to be is seen as important and/or famous.

Which is why her pivot to genre fiction is so damned hilarious. For every world famous author there are literally tens of thousands who will never be recognized.

She'd have had better luck sticking to the YouTube career which she hates.

You can always just be a writer for fun. Just write books or whatever whenever you feel like it (or as a NaNoWriMo challenge) and just go the selling route just to make some money off of it, and let the chips fall where they may.

Lindsay, meanwhile....yeah she wants the clout. She thought she'd write her works, sell the rights, and be involved in whatever adaptation came her way (there's still that chance, even if it's slim). Didn't Lindsay say she was working on this book for years behind the scenes, only now getting a publisher to release the damn thing? (she had to say that in a video, didn't she?) But even then, any time she does show up on the Internet again to talk about her books, very rarely does she carry herself like how I see other authors carry themselves, even if those authors are self-published nobodies who don't have nearly the same sized following as Lindsay who'd be able to get crowdfunding and Patreon bucks without much effort.

Most give up when they realize that being a writer is a lot of work, a lot of luck, and not nearly as glamorous as they thought.

I....have some experience with that feeling. Haven't given up, but this rings true to me. Sorry for getting personal.

 

[Eventide]

it's just another opportunity for her to chase clout and authority, and to appear successful.

That's not uncommon, especially when it comes to lefty women in genre fiction. They have no love for the classics, or the craft, or no hunger to tell a story, they want to use writing as a way to go on the interview circuit, land academic jobs, appear important to all the chuds back home who teased them in high school.

I noticed a weird trend of female YA authors quitting writing after a few books and becoming mommy bloggers/social media self help gurus. I'd bet money that's Lindsay's ultimate career trajectory. Maybe she'll market "how to become a Youtube video essay-ist" classes or something.

PS: so sorry if it's weird I PM'ed you a question about the publishing world. I was a bit loopy on antibiotics last night

Didn't Lindsay say she was working on this book for years behind the scenes, only now getting a publisher to release the damn thing? (she had to say that in a video, didn't she?)

I'm pretty sure Lindsay deleted the video where she talks about the process of getting the book approved/mentioned how it was rejected multiple times.