Trainwreck The Empathic Nutritionist / Empathic Mamahood / Robyn Grogitsky-Ramirez / Luna Elva Ramirez / Glenn Ramirez / Atlas Glenn Standford Ramirez - Eyefucking Sociopath Selfie Addict Mother and Closeted Gymrat Pothead Father who use Instagram to Parade their Homemade Homunculus Tard Baby Created by their Refusal to Follow any Medical Oversights

Will Robyn actually go back to see the neurosurgeon in California?

  • Yes

    Votes: 26 12.2%
  • No

    Votes: 107 50.2%
  • Luna will die before the planned trip date

    Votes: 80 37.6%

  • Total voters
    213
  • Poll closed .
Anyone know what she means by "strip the laundry"?
It's a deep cleaning method to remove detergent, fabric softener, dirt residue. I have no clue how that $20 box of silver ion sheets is supposed to work. Usually it's done with various combinations of borax, washing soda (non-food grade baking soda) or sometimes vinegar. I usually use a small scoop of borax and washing soda. A regular size box of borax or washing soda costs about $5 each.
I'm sorry about the PJ comment. Really. It's just a pet peeve of mine. I live in a hot, humid climate because my work took me there and the local power companies always recommend keeping the thermostat set at 68 F for heat and 76 F for AC to reduce the strain on the power grid and prevent brown outs. At work there are idiots that continually wear puffer jackets and hoodies in the summer and complain about the AC not working, when in fact it is; they just refuse to dress for the season. When it's suggested they take the hoodie off, they get upset because then they can't "be stylin".
 
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Ummm....what?? Now Luna has cerebral palsy, say it ain't so Robyn.
I mean from the basic definition she might kinda fit, her brain isn't able to work her muscles, but the fact is more that her brain doesn't work at all.

Also... I mean... it's damn near an admission that she strangled Luna with her cunt.

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Imho autism/ADHD’s a retarded new age diagnosis for parents to explain their laziness in raising their kid infront of an ipad, and the laziness of teens to fit in and do their tasks. Literally anyone that doesn’t want to fit into the social framework is considered autistic nowadays. And we really need to bring bullying back. It set plenty straight, instead of trying to soft-lobotomise anyone ‘off’ by prescribing more drugs than to my Parkinson’s ridden grandpa

Let the boy do his monkey sounds and wreak havoc, it’s the rebel spirit this hippie household needs
 
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Also, they live in Nevada and it's August. Why is Luna doing PT in flannel pajamas?
Luna cannot control her temperature due to the brain damage.

Anyone know what she means by "strip the laundry"?
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The new thing that Robyn is touting is a front for teaching chiro to parents so they can do it themselves. On their website they post "gentle rolling exercises" and tell people to stop using AFOs and doing rang of motion therapies. They also post almost daily photos of children in only underwear/diapers when what they do is done over clothing.

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But after you pay them you get courses in cranio sacral therapy and chiro meant for parents to do on theri own to their children with no actual training. Included a free pdf they give as well.




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Hands-On Therapy Link & Core Flow Program Link
 

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Something I'm wondering about: Robyn has long made Luna the face of her Instagram MLM shills. More than Robyn, Luna is the face of the business. When Luna's gone, what then? She's put zero work into getting her followers to feel as connected to Atlas (and now Woody)-- probably because she doesn't feel that connection herself. Atlas in particular is also already less cooperative with her Instagram posing, and Atlas will grow uncooperative soon enough. You notice, for instance, that you never actually see Atlas drinking that powder-and-spring water potion she claims he loves.

Speaking of Atlas, I know it's not literally criminal to have a speech therapist helping the child who has no brain function when the child who will soon be 4 can't utter a word, but it should be criminal. Atlas is bright, interested, and expressive, and they're just letting the TV raise him. He also appears to be a really good kid who loves both of his siblings, and you can't say that of every child that age. I truly hope that he and Woody (who's adorable) grow up to be very close.

Luna really doesn't look well, by her own standards. She looks thin and even more contorted. If Robyn is fretting this much to the general public, then I'm assuming that whatever is going on off-camera is truly dire. Luna is tired, and her little body has been through so much more than most of us could ever understand. I hope that Robyn (and Glenn, to whatever extent he's involved here) can let her go to sleep soon. I don't wish losing a child on anyone, and I hope that Robyn's belief in eternal consciousness (or however she frames it) brings her some comfort.

But then she really needs to get off Instagram, back away from the MLM woo, and start raising the two children who desperately need her.
 
I mean from the basic definition she might kinda fit, her brain isn't able to work her muscles, but the fact is more that her brain doesn't work at all.

Also... I mean... it's damn near an admission that she strangled Luna with her cunt.

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I’m sure she likes using this label better because people generally seem to understand that cerebral palsy can “just happen” for all sorts of reasons, so she never has to explain WHY Luna has it. It also downplays everything else wrong with Luna because there are lots of people with palsy who are of normal intelligence. So she can pretend Luna “just” has physical issues and that her brain isn’t actually a half-melted slushy. Just a lil palsy and a lil hydrocephalus. Nothing she can’t fix with PT, a shunt, and Reiki.
 
He’s been playing appropriately for his age, every milestone we visually see is normal. He makes eye contact, plays with the right toys at the right time, we see no repetitive behaviors or interests, he smiles and looks at his family, his motor skills are normal to above average. He doesn’t have any of the social issues that autism brings.
This is a very narrow view of autism, especially Level 1 where these impairments aren't necessarily as noticeable to an untrained eye. I completely disagree on him not having social issues. I don't know about repetitive behaviors or interests, because Robyn doesn't even show much of what he does in a day. He could very well be locked into one interest or activity 90% of the time and we'd have no clue unless Globyn spelled it out.

As casual observers it can be difficult to tell either way unless someone is diagnosed and shares that information. I would be unsurprised either way to find out Atlas is or isn't dxed with L1 ASD in the future. He's certainly not Level 2/3 and would have few support needs.

However, what I *speculate* is happening is that Atlas also experienced an event during birth that resulted in low oxygen but not enough to impair him the way Luna was. In my schooling, I learned that there are growing concerns that hypoxic events in childbirth are associated with delayed speech abilities regardless of clear brain imaging post-birth.

My child also had this happen, in a hospital; clear scans both immediately and one week following the birth. Despite 3x a week speech therapy starting at 3, my kid didn't actually start using spoken words that others would understand until around 4.5. Atlas sounds very much like my kid did to me and has for a while. We taught basic sign language words early on which would be great for Atlas.

IF Atlas had a minor hypoxic event, it could be related. I can't say that did happen, though, but considering her firstborn and the research I read, it's possible. I know Globyn isn't modeling speech in a normal way in that creepy house, which is also why she hasn't at least taught him to sign a decent bit, so it's probably a combination of things, but I highly suspect it isn't just neglect.

But after you pay them you get courses in cranio sacral therapy and chiro meant for parents to do on theri own to their children with no actual training. Included a free pdf they give as well.
Oh well if they include a free PDF, it must be guaranteed to not snap your kid's spine like a fucking glow stick.
 
Atlas is adorable and the photo is almost a normal family picture until you realize that Luna is melting in it (why is her hair so long??)
So that people have something normal and positive to say...
"Oh! Her hair is so pretty" is Narc fuel, especially as everyone knows that it's Lizard Woman taking care of it. Without the hair, what can you say? "Wow! She sure does have a big head!" probably won't come across the same...
 
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The new thing that Robyn is touting is a front for teaching chiro to parents so they can do it themselves. On their website they post "gentle rolling exercises" and tell people to stop using AFOs and doing rang of motion therapies. They also post almost daily photos of children in only underwear/diapers when what they do is done over clothing.

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Hands-On Therapy Link & Core Flow Program Link
It's not chiropractic at all, just a treatment method that plain old OTs & PTs use daily. This is actually a decent idea, because ideally these methods work best when done daily, but rarely is daily OT & PT covered.
In the grand scheme of things, this is one of the things Robyn SHOULD be doing that would help Luna if anything is going to help.
Also, just to add, yes a diagnosis of cerebral palsy is given to and kid who is born with (or has trauma at birth) muscular spasticity that originates in the central nervous system. Luna's diagnosis is probably CP secondary to multicystic encephalopathy.
(PL, I'm a former pediatric/school based OT)
ETA: intensive therapy would be useless for Luna and I would HOPE no intensive program would take her. I believe the fact that she is basically in status epilepticus would disqualify her.
 
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Agree that having little to no speech at three and a half is astonishingly delayed. As much as people are convinced Atlas isn’t autistic, there aren’t many explanations for a boy of that age not having any speech.

People always like to say that boys are lazy, just you wait, he’ll wake up one day talking in complete sentences… but in reality that rarely happens.

I guess the problem with growing up in a family with Luna means that literally no developmental delay could raise red flags in comparison with her.
 
Agree that having little to no speech at three and a half is astonishingly delayed. As much as people are convinced Atlas isn’t autistic, there aren’t many explanations for a boy of that age not having any speech.
I think a better reason is that there is a mechanical issue due to Robyn having his tongue cut (stating he had a non existent tongue tie since she beleives all babies have tongue ties). Plus the fact he is never spoken to conversationally too its all talk to the phone or talk over him to Luna, but not really mimicing conversations to Atlas himself. It also is clear Robyn controls all their choices in life so he has no reason to vocalize wants for things that will never occur. His main model also of another child until now has always been Luna who Robyn speaks for.
 
So that people have something normal and positive to say...
"Oh! Her hair is so pretty" is Narc fuel, especially as everyone knows that it's Lizard Woman taking care of it. Without the hair, what can you say? "Wow! She sure does have a big head!" probably won't come across the same...
Her hair isn't pretty though. It's stringy and unsettling (even more so with the giant noggin). The hair is most likely not properly maintained either so it's all tangled in the back.
Agree that having little to no speech at three and a half is astonishingly delayed. As much as people are convinced Atlas isn’t autistic, there aren’t many explanations for a boy of that age not having any speech.

People always like to say that boys are lazy, just you wait, he’ll wake up one day talking in complete sentences… but in reality that rarely happens.

I guess the problem with growing up in a family with Luna means that literally no developmental delay could raise red flags in comparison with her.
I still don't think Atlas is autistic, but his environment leaves a lot to be desired. Children model speech off of the parents and guardians interacting with them -- something I doubt Robyn does between caring for the vegetable, infant, and eye fucking herself on her phone. Even reading to children greatly benefits them when it comes to speech development.
 
I still don't think Atlas is autistic, but his environment leaves a lot to be desired. Children model speech off of the parents and guardians interacting with them -- something I doubt Robyn does between caring for the vegetable, infant, and eye fucking herself on her phone. Even reading to children greatly benefits them when it comes to speech development.

I’m on the fence. Plenty of kids have shitty, neglectful parents. They still manage to acquire speech at 3.5. There has to be more to it than not being spoken to enough at home.
 
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