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Has anyone ever found any "deconstructions" of typical furry stories? Basically, a furry story that actually has real-world consequences and effects applied to it; i.e., a story that actually goes into realistic detail as to why furries would be around, or a story that examines and criticizes the aftermath of the typical furry fetish story.
The problem with such stories is that anyone with enough self awareness to write them would automatically not be intrested in furry stories and anyone intrested in writing furry stories would not have enough self awareness to write such a thing to begin with.
 
Double-post, but I got into a conversation with someone else, and it's got me curious:

Has anyone ever found any "deconstructions" of typical furry stories? Basically, a furry story that actually has real-world consequences and effects applied to it; i.e., a story that actually goes into realistic detail as to why furries would be around, or a story that examines and criticizes the aftermath of the typical furry fetish story.

There was a dragon transformation story I found years ago that goes into this; it was about the typical furry misanthrope who gets his wish to turn into a dragon despite having a very comfortable middle-class life with a decent family (as is common in furry stories), and immediately goes on a rampage because... well, misanthrope. The subsequent rest of the story was about the consequences; his family has abandoned him, he can't go back to society, and he's a paranoid, miserable, and lonely wreck. Sadly, I can't remember the name of the story, or even if it ever got completed, but it was an interesting look into how the typical transformation story went.

Anyone got anything like that?
I think the problem with calling them deconstructions is that that the tropes of furry writing is just bad writing. So exploring those things is less an exercise in deconstruction and more just basic world building and writing. I guess what I'm saying is that the intent isn't there to make it a true deconstruction. I think it is rare to come across stories like this just because they actually require time and effort to build out. You can't just write a 3-10 page bit of porn with a minimal beginning, minimal ending, and big horny middle (I see this most common in TF fiction). You have to write something larger since the story has to go beyond the porn, which most furries just have no interest in doing. Plus, if you are writing that type of content as an amateur furry writer, it is very difficult to find an audience. Most people just want porn and can't find the time to read larger, more serious stories.

The closest thing that comes to mind off hand would be something like the webcomic Skin Deep, which actually deals with the idea of, what would happen if you suddenly discovered you were a magical creature and are now introduced into a hidden world of them. It doesn't just show the magical creatures or humans to be solely good or evil and does a decent enough job exploring the turmoil that someone would experience when put into that situation. I don't think its a deconstruction though, merely just decent writing.

Unfortunately, most of the other stories I know of this sort are things I've written or things written by my friends. So, I can't really say much. I'll just say that there are some of us out there who actually don't want to write porn and want to tell good stories about characters that aren't purely wish fulfillment. I think it helps that all of us are not just a bunch of young autistic misanthropes, like the average furry. The age range of the people writing more interesting works tends to skew a bit higher, a bit more mentally stable, and a bit more conservative from my personal experience.
 
The problem with such stories is that anyone with enough self awareness to write them would automatically not be intrested in furry stories and anyone intrested in writing furry stories would not have enough self awareness to write such a thing to begin with.
Also @Drunken Fox

Can't say I disagree; aside from that story I mentioned earlier, I had seen some deconstruction stuff for both MLP - mostly about the Conversion Bureau - as well as an old wolfaboo deconstruction webcomic (Canis) over a decade ago, so I was just curious if anyone had ever found any deconstruction stuff for furries. Not surprised there isn't any, frankly; the furry fandom tends to lack self-awareness, especially in more recent years.
 
I think it's a case of such of the amount of people skilled enough and interested enough to do it being quite limited. Very little overlap between the "wants and is able to write a entire story about furries" and "self aware enough to understand why furries get so much hate and why they are cringe as fuck"
 
Double-post, but I got into a conversation with someone else, and it's got me curious:

Has anyone ever found any "deconstructions" of typical furry stories? Basically, a furry story that actually has real-world consequences and effects applied to it; i.e., a story that actually goes into realistic detail as to why furries would be around, or a story that examines and criticizes the aftermath of the typical furry fetish story.

There was a dragon transformation story I found years ago that goes into this; it was about the typical furry misanthrope who gets his wish to turn into a dragon despite having a very comfortable middle-class life with a decent family (as is common in furry stories), and immediately goes on a rampage because... well, misanthrope. The subsequent rest of the story was about the consequences; his family has abandoned him, he can't go back to society, and he's a paranoid, miserable, and lonely wreck. Sadly, I can't remember the name of the story, or even if it ever got completed, but it was an interesting look into how the typical transformation story went.

Anyone got anything like that?
Now that I think about it, I wonder if anything similar exists for those Sonic fanfics that involve characters being captured, brainwashed and mind controlled into serving the Eggman Empire (think some Chaoscroc tier shit). Pretty sure raping POW's, if not outright fucking with their minds so that they enjoy and accept it is a rather gross and disturbing concept that honestly i'm not really surprised it's never brought up.

Gotta make any depictions of mind breaking torture and abuse "lighthearted and wholesome", as they usually say.
 
Has anyone ever found any "deconstructions" of typical furry stories? Basically, a furry story that actually has real-world consequences and effects applied to it; i.e., a story that actually goes into realistic detail as to why furries would be around
  • Mouse Cage by Malcolm F Cross.
Genuinely excellent sci-fi by an author who does "identify" as a furry, but who has expressed thinly-veiled contempt for the vast majority of other furry authors on the grounds that most of them aren't good writers...which they objectively aren't lol.

Takes place in a realistic, near-future sci-fi world and portrays a gritty and realistic version of "what if we gengineered various animal-humans for certain tasks to make labor/experiments/etc" type of furry fiction, along with a realistic portrayal of "fursecution." If you've ever been emotionally entangled with a friend or partner who has raging BPD, it may tug extra hard at your heart strings. Probably the most realistic and heart-wrenching portrayal of a "damaged empath meets untreated BPD sufferer" I've ever read. Has a sequel (narratively unconnected, but taking place within the same universe) called Dog Country that I have not read, but it runs with similar themes.


  • Literally anything by MCA Hogarth
She has a massive body of work, largely consisting of subseries within one big umbrella world (The Pelted Universe). The furries in it are a mixture of gengineered creatures and aliens resembling animals.

She is a TERF on the level of JKR and politically center-right, but openly finds the fictional concept of 3rd sexes fascinating from a "what if" standpoint, so many of her books include intelligent (sometimes sweet, sometimes viscerally horrifying) portrayals of how societies might function if there were more than two sexes. Her work frequently pisses off TRA types because she's very open about the fact that 3rd sexes & clownfish people are fictional, and that anyone who believes in TRA slop is disordered and needs help.

Aaaaand, that's all I've got from the top of my head. I'm sure I could think of more if I went through all my old sci-fi shit, but half the problem is, as other have stated, most furry fiction is mediocre at best and is written as pure wish fulfillment rather than as a means to create interesting science-fiction/fantasy that explores how a world with aliens/genetic hybrids/etc would function.
 
Now that I think about it, I wonder if anything similar exists for those Sonic fanfics that involve characters being captured, brainwashed and mind controlled into serving the Eggman Empire (think some Chaoscroc tier shit). Pretty sure raping POW's, if not outright fucking with their minds so that they enjoy and accept it is a rather gross and disturbing concept that honestly i'm not really surprised it's never brought up.

Gotta make any depictions of mind breaking torture and abuse "lighthearted and wholesome", as they usually say.

Haven't seen any deconstruction stories about Sonic fanfics; closest thing would probably be that "Sonic X: Dark Chaos" fanfic that TV Tropes loves to talk about, and that's more "Reddit Atheist Edgelord wank" than a deconstruction anyway.

@Lavender Moth: Interesting books/authors! I'll try and take a look at them when I get a chance; they sound fairly solid.
 
Haven't seen any deconstruction stories about Sonic fanfics; closest thing would probably be that "Sonic X: Dark Chaos" fanfic that TV Tropes loves to talk about, and that's more "Reddit Atheist Edgelord wank" than a deconstruction anyway.
I think I've heard of that one before, isn't that the one where all kinds of messed up and horrific things happen 24/7, yet TV Tropes acts like it's the absolute pinnacle of art? Honestly the most shocking thing is that the author used Sonic X instead of Sonic SATAM, considering how much the fans of SATAM like to circlejerk about how "dark, mature and gritty" it is.
 
I think I've heard of that one before, isn't that the one where all kinds of messed up and horrific things happen 24/7, yet TV Tropes acts like it's the absolute pinnacle of art?

Yep, that's it. I haven't read the whole thing myself, but both what little I have seen and the previews for it give a pretty good picture; it's a furry Reddit Atheist's insanity, coagulated into its purest form. The author spends most of the time attacking Christianity, Islam, and Judaism, there's constant sex and violence everywhere, the villain O.C. characters are ridiculously overpowered, the actual canon characters are unlikable at best, and its pretty much just constant angst.

For those that don't know; the series takes place in a setting akin to Warhammer 40k - universal-scale war for survival against demons and angels, basically - except even more grimdark, with the angels all being seen as "evil" at best and the demons constantly winning and being blatantly overpowered. Sonic and co. get involved after an alien girl crashes on their planet, being pursued by a Villain Sue android fox known as "Tsail", which leads to the group heading to space and getting involved in the Warhammer-esqe war. From there, the plot just turns into a constant stream of excessive edginess and disturbingly graphical sex scenes - remember that the Sonic cast are all minors, btw - and it becomes nigh-impossible to really keep track of the plot. The aforementioned Tsail is the pinnacle; he's basically every negative Sonic fan character rolled into one, being a complete story-breaking in the same vein as the Chakats, and yet the author continues to shove him everywhere.

From what I can tell, the main reason why the setting is so beloved is because it's labeled as a "deconstruction"; aside from taking a few jabs at some fan characters and rewriting/bastardizing some plots from Sonic X canon, though, it's basically just a label the author uses to make edgy shit and avoid criticism. From what I've heard, the author did make a "rewrite" of the fic to make it less stupidly edgy - the angels are shown having more sympathetic qualities, apparently, though the demons are still the stronger and more likable faction - but the previews still don't make it out to be a great setting. Granted, I haven't read the entire fic as of yet, but what little I've gone over already, it's difficult to really keep going.

You guys can find the TV Tropes page for it here: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/FanFic/SonicXDarkChaos. Abandon all hope, ye who enter here.
 
Greetings, Kennel Club. I've been a KF lurker since 2017, but I decided to make an account today to share a book that may be of interest to this thread.

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Fallen World - The Complete Trilogy

I've now read five chapters of this. This book is a rollercoaster and while it takes a few chapters to get going, it's anything but boring.

Literary analysis has never quite been my strong suit, but I'd say what interested me the most about this pure autism story was how the story's world is set up. You have the Omega Foundation, which seems to be some DARPA-esque black ops organization run by humans enslaving furries to use them as pawns to defeat this monopolistic company called Castle Defense Industries that is also run by humans. Most of the furry stories I've seen don't really have such a strong human presence in their settings.
This is true, but underselling what makes this book special.

It's over 1500 pages of immersive action and geopolitical intrigue (which the author is actualy good at) mixed with the main character's own struggles to understand and express the relationship between his religion and (apparently non-sexual) proclivities.

If you don't find those elements interesting, though, you're fine: one of the strengths of the book is that you get to see the perspective of almost every faction. There's a great chunk of chapter 5 that follows a bumbling crew of Isis fighters in Syria that you wind up rooting for.

If you don't like a book about an evangelical asexual-bondage-obsessed pacifist fox-man who somehow runs a private security company (which I find fun at least psychologically, and to see how he's gonna get through the next scenario with only cover fire and sneaking around while his underlings do all the killing), you typically don't have to wait too many pages until it's about a neo-nazi enacting Total Furry Death, or a ragtag group of Daesh fighters surviving against an Eastern European security megacorp.

It also reads like a typical fursecution story at first, but from what I understand it's revealed later that the human and furry populations are both subject to lots of false-flags and neither is particularly innocent.

You have to get past chaper 2 for it to click, I think. Once the neo-nazis show up the ball really starts rolling.

I'll give you examples of what I mean:
In the fourth chapter, there's an astroturfed faction of neo-nazis in Germany committing a second holocaust, loading furries onto trains and murdering minorities.

Come to find out, the neo-holocaust is actually a front for human(oid) trafficking on behalf of not-DARPA for the purposes of NWO occult human(oid) sacrifice rituals. Some of the neo-nazis are legit fall guys recruited over the internet, but the core of the organization are all Omega Foundation. This is hinted at by the fact that their gear (all gear and weapons in this book are specifically named and their functions often described in detail) is mostly American.

There are also scenes of humans screaming about their racial superiority while blowing furry heads off with shotguns in excruciatingly gory detail. Also dropping hard Rs at black furred foxes.

In the fifth chapter, some of the neo-nazis fall guys wind up in Syria fighting both CDI and Isis for control of an airfield. You get to see it from all of their perspectives, and you meet back up with a human named Johnny who quit the MC's PMC over financial concerns (also over finding the constant Evangelical talk combined with the bondage weird and hypocritical). He joins CDI, which hires mostly humans and is so big it's a direct threat to the not-DARPA power bloc.

I think it definitely deserves more of a look. The first two chapters are rough, but misleading. There's a lot going on here.
 
let's do this

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It's been a while. Forgive me for the delay, things got so hectic so fast and all my kiwifarms time has mostly been relegated to shitposting when I'm supposed to be working. I'm sure you're just itching to get into the next part, I know some of you have been eager to get a post that's not about animalsex going so I won't keep you too long.

First and foremost let's check in on Slanek, see what the little speep is up to. Oh yeah, he's currently in an active warzone, isn't he? Right now he's watching the arxur's bombs raining down on Silis, wondering how they had gotten into orbit so fast. Slanek, Marcel, and Birla all come to the horrifying realization that the UN in orbit above Silis have abandoned it, leaving its people to die under the heel of the arxur, and the three of them seem to now suddenly be caught in the thick of it. Birla isn't happy about it because there's children on Silis, but Marcel snaps at her because there were children on Earth too. After all, it would be selfish to expect the people your kind endorsed bombing to come to your aid when you're on the receiving end.

No more time to talk, they gotta get going or they're gonna look like russian/ukrainian drone footage. Marcel grabs Birla's son and they start making their way to the nearest spaceport in hopes of evacuating before it's too late. The dog starts following them too, which scares Birla and pisses off Slanek (It's been allowed free reign of the camp and it keeps trying to play with Slanek, apparently.) before Marcel makes Dino sit and calms everyone down. With everyone now in tow, they start making their way off.

Of course, their prospects of escape aren't looking so good. A gravelly voice crackles to life over the radio, informing the party that arxur are landing in the cities and getting ready for a ground raid. The shuttles leave in 10 minutes, if they're not off planet by then they're shit outta luck. Birla, however, remains hopeful that they'll make it with time to spare if they cut through the incubator facility, a building common on planets of egg laying species like the tilfish. Apparently these bugs lay like 20-30 at a time, but with overpopulation and all it gets to be too much to take care of, so they "throw away" the majority of them and only keep the best. Virnt here was selected specifically for his intellect, though he ends up with autism because of it I guess so who knows. The aliens don't even know what autism is so I can't blame them for not testing for it.

On the way out, Dino lets out a ferocious bark and scares Slanek shitless. Dino hears something coming but Slanek thinks it's trying to eat him and has started screaming, once again. Slanek is now seconds away from REALLY fucking up, because as soon as Marcel turns his back on him to look for what Dino's barking at, he unclips his gun and starts taking aim at the hound... Only to be interrupted by Arxur bursting into the room. He starts firing potshots at them as the grays move in, and Marcel pushes him down behind cover before he can get his fuzzy head blown off. Dino charges the lizards and pulls one to the ground before it can react, his buddy accidentally shooting him in the gut trying to get the dog off him, giving Slanek and Co. a moment to regroup and escape.

They start making their way to the exit but Marcel gets pinned down and surrounded by the grays and Slanek goes absolutely berserk, unleashing an angry squeal to get the grays attention as he starts firing wildly into the squad until his sudden burst of resolve gives out and he finds himself shot in the arm and goes down while Marcel makes his way to the exit. Luckily for Slanek, a jaw full of sharp teeth clamps around the scruff of his neck. Luckily, I should say, because instead of a hungry arxur, it's Dino, the dog he was just considering shooting for the crime of annoying him, has just grabbed him and dragged him to safety.

Slanek wipes away the dog slobber from his mouth after the german shephard licks his face behind cover, and he tells Marcel to leave him behind and get to the shuttle.

One problem though. Time's up.

The party is stuck on the planet with no hope of escape, injured and under attack.
Jumping right back into the action I see. They're really in trouble now, and for once it isn't Marcel's fault. Isn't that something?

Oh yeah, Sovlin was in dire straits himself, wasn't he? It's been so long I forgot he's currently trapped in a losing battle with the arxur fleet. Radio chatter indicates to the overgrown hedgehog that the UN plans to dig its heels in and stand their ground. Currently, they're taking cover behind a large space rock passing close by Silis (in astronomical terms, SP notes) so they can hunker down instead of drifting their damaged ship around open space. They've got short range FTL disruptors up to keep arxur from warping in on their asses and blowing them up immediately. It's a good thing they do too, because arxur are currently closing in all around their location. Seems their mission is less so to take Silis and moreso to teach those cocky humans a lesson, because they're intensely following anyone who strays away from the battlefield instead of sticking around to bomb the planet.

Luckily, as Sovlin notes, this is a tactical error on the grays part. They're effectively allowing the human ships to regroup and bunker up, when they should be forcing them to take drastic measures to protect the planet. Ships sail by and buffet the asteroid with plasma fire as the ship's turrets gun them down by the dozen. The crew has to take evasive maneuvers when they start getting swarmed with target locks, and now several human ships are fleeing the asteroid altogether as it gets overrun. A barrel roll just narrowly evades an arc of plasma as it sails through the air and nearly singes their tail. This is around the time that the UN gives them the retreat order, implying that this chapter is happening concurrently with the previous one. Neat.

Tyler and Onso get into a little argument about retreating, Onso doesn't want to because he thinks it's dishonorable to flee but Tyler says what the Captain says goes, then Sovlin joins in just to be racist at Onso some more before Tyler shuts them all up and tells them to get to work or get vaporized by arxur. Sovlin reflects on how while he doesn't mind dying if some grays go down with him, he worries about the other people aboard the ship who still have something to live for, unlike him. He even feels sorry for Onso, he can understand how upsetting it can be to see the humans on the losing side of a battle. Ships around theirs go up in flames and scatter into bits of debris as plasma and railgun beams soar past and cut through the retreating fleet. One such beam nails them in the rear, no damaged to major systems but they can't take another hit like that.

Sovlin reports that they need to lower the power to the engines and reinvest them in shields (reading through this is making me want to replay FTL for the 2000th time) but the crew is insistent on maintaining power to keep the engine on full blast, the sooner they get out the better. Luckily, the danger is negated somewhat by a small amount of the fleet that warped away, warping back in with their weapons already blazing, ambushing the arxur by wildly firing into space before they can even see what's happening. It's only about a dozen ships but it buys them time to escape without being blasted into paste.

Then more warp in. And more, and more, and more. It's a pincer attack, the arxur pushed forward too far and now they're surrounded by enemies they can't see until they're already on top of them and blasting them to bits. The advance comes to a dead stop as the grays keep their eyes peeled for the next batch of ships, only to be caught off guard by the move nobody anticipated, a sudden warp into the center of their formation. Now humans are blasting them from within their own space! Their coordination disrupted, the lizards fire blindly around each other and start taking eachother out more than they take any humans out.

Onso and Sovlin are speechless at the onslaught as the losing battle suddenly becomes a lot more even. Onso finally pipes up that he spoke too soon, the humans are doing much better than he anticipated. Carlos only replies that when a human runs out of ammo, they fix bayonets and charge. The gojid captain finds himself nervous at the prospect that humans would never surrender, though they do assure him that they only refuse to surrender to merciless enemies like the arxur. Better dead than a gray's slave. The only question now is, is it worth it to push back into Silis, or is it time to cut their losses and go home with their pride intact?
If you've never played FTL, btw, you are missing out. As an alien and space battle enjoyer (WHY HAVE I NEVER WATCHED STAR TREK) it's to this day one of the best space battle games on the market.

Isif isn't doing much better. He might not be trapped on a planet full of man-eating lizards or in a badly damaged cruiser, but he's currently waking up to find himself locked up inside a human jail cell. He takes note of his surroundings, namely that the guards are keeping their distance from his cell, and thinks about Elias and how much worse Zhao is. Luckily for him, he isn't alone with his thoughts for long, when General Jones comes in to have a chat with him. See, she anticipated all of this, despite her attempts to warn Isif off, and is just glad she can get a moment to talk to him privately.

Apparently she's been trying to set up private channels for them to communicate for a while, but it hasn't been particularly easy. He's a very straightforward fellow, he sees what he wants and he takes the shortest path to get it, even if he's very good at playing pretend. She's got a crown for his chipped tooth, inside it is a miniature hard drive (not a solid state drive? seems weird to me.) with dead drop locations, codes, and a lesson on spycraft. Seems Jones wants to be on Isif's good side, preferably without Zhao or the others knowing. She's got some plans ready to help him out, in the hopes of inciting open rebellion on the arxur's home planet so that Isif and the others out there that are like him might take over and restore the arxur to their former, non people-eating glory.

Once they're on the same page, Jones busts Isif out. Well no, she's having someone come down to order his release. Erin Kuemper? Sara Rosario? Nope, Isif's guesses are more wrong than a sivkit practicing sustainable agricultural practices. Turns out Tarva is on her way right now, and Jones has set things up so that she'll come in and see who the captured arxur is, in the hopes that she'll demand his release. This initially infuriates Isif, to Jones surprise, and Isif admits that he does, in fact, like Tarva (Scandalous!) but the second someone tells her he's deceiving her to try to make a snack of her she'll advocate for him to be locked away forever. Jones just tells him to have a little faith in the speep and her resolve, and wishes him luck before leaving.

Isif can't help but feel hurt, convinced that Tarva will betray him. He tries to bite back the feeling, it's not right for an arxur to display sadness, especially not over what a prey species thinks of him. Zhao and Tarva begin making their way over and Tarva is shocked to see him locked up. Zhao explains what Isif said during his talk with Chief Hunter Shaza and Tarva asks if it's true, and of course he admits to it, but explains that he was merely trying to keep Shaza from attacking the humans and rescue just a few zurulians without blowing his cover. To Isif's shock, the little venlil seems to believe him, and starts unlocking his cell before Zhao slams it shut again. Surely Tarva of all people shouldn't believe the hateful lies of the Arxur, he insists, but Tarva is insistent. Elias told her to trust Isif, and by whatever God the venlil worship (do venlil worship gods? I can't remember actually.) she trusts him with all her heart.

She demands that he be given an empathy test, assuring Zhao that he is different. Not a single captured arxur has passed the tests, they're a race of genetic sociopaths, Zhao complains, but still Tarva insists that Isif is different. Zhao relents and tells the guards to escort him away to be tested while Isif tries to process the fact that Elias's last wish was peace between the Arxur and the galaxy.
The Isif-Tarva relationship is something special. They don't interact often but it's always nice to see how the bravest coward and the most empathetic hunter interact, especially with their shared respect for Elias after his death despite the animosity between them.

We don't get to see deep into Isif's test, because we come back just after the results have come in. Isif briefly mentions that he felt incredible pity seeing the helpless prey animals being tormented, but doesn't elaborate further. I guess the important thing is that he's empirically shown empathy and Zhao now has to contend with that evidence. Keeping to his word he allows Tarva to take Isif away on her ship. What follows is a very long, awkward shuttle ride back to venlil prime where they both sit in silence next to one another. Eventually, Isif breaks the ice after getting annoyed with the zurulians in the back and cracking a joke about how torturous it must be for humans to endure exchange programs. Tarva doesn't find it very funny, and they awkwardly rally the conversation back and forth until they hit the uncomfortable subject of Elias's death. Tarva goes quiet as grief eats away at her, and Isif can't help but silently express empathy, which pisses Tarva off.

With quiet fury she begins questioning him about the horrible things he's done, and the ones he's ordered. She understands that his motivation of staying alive was reasonable, but it doesn't excuse the people he's killed, had killed, or eaten, either personally or not. Isif quietly admits that she's right, and he regrets his culpability, even if it was just to survive. She asks him about the cradle, if it was him who ordered the attack. It's his fault that the gojid are now an endangered species. Tarva looks away, out of the view port, while Isif muses on how things have been different since the day the arxur found another predator species among the stars. The humans took back the cradle fair and square.

Isif apologizes, in his own way. He doesn't say sorry, but he does express that he understands how his actions could have been hurtfu-
“You don’t know hurtful. You took my daughter. YOU TOOK MY DAUGHTER! It was you. You ordered the grays to gas Venlil s-schools: what, to crush our morale?! I fucking know you feel empathy, and you could’ve done things differently. Why did you have to be so cruel?!”​
She shoves Isif, with enough force that it actually surprises him, though the size difference keeps him from toppling out of his seat. He tries to reassure her that her anger is not misplaced and that he does not deserve to be forgiven. They sit in silence again for a moment as Tarva wipes away the tears. Some part of Isif wants to offer empathy, but his logical mind knows that he's the last person in the galaxy she wants it from right now. Once she calms down, she expresses sadness at the difficult life Isif leads and has lead, and thinks he really needs a friend. But that friend can't be her.

This, if you'll forgive me editorializing more than I have already, is one of the most tragic and somber scenes in the entire book. In this ship sits two souls, deeply wounded and desperately needing comfort, who understand each other and can't help but want to comfort one another, but because of the death of Tarva's daughter (and many, many other things), simply cannot. So close, and yet so far away. It must be the loneliest feeling in the world to be understood so thoroughly by the only person you can't let into your heart.

With tempers quieted and the unspeakable spoken, Tarva offers up a holopad to Isif. If he needs a friend, he could try speaking anonymously on the prey's internet. As long as he doesn't give away that he's an arxur, he just might make one.

Hours later, Isif is alone in space aboard the ship, drifting towards his spy station while browsing the fed's internet. He stumbles onto what is basically the Dossur version of omegle (the dossur being those tiny rodent creatures, low priority for the arxur because they don't make good slaves and they don't make good meals) and begins to chat with one such rodent.

Hi

How’s it going? Please tell me you’re not just on here to flirt. I swear, it’s like this became a dating app overnight.

What? I don’t know why I’m here, but it’s certainly not for that.

Good, ‘cause I will block you if you’re lying. So I’m Felra, and I’m a spaceship inspector. Catching every slapstick, half-assed repair job the human alliance throws at us.

You work with humans?

Not directly. We just let their allies marshal some forces at the old Fed spots. The UN is talking about an exchange program, but we’re the smallest species in the galaxy. Problematic.

What’s your name?


Siffy

That’s adorable! You must get that a lot, but props to your parents.

I do not wish to discuss my parents.

Sorry, I didn’t mean to offend you. What do you do for a living, Siffy?

This and that. Nothing you’d be interested in.

You don’t talk about much, do you? You’re prickly as a Gojid.

I’m not…used to talking. This was a mistake…I deserve to be alone.

He shuts the holopad off for now, he has important work to do. A video call with Prophet-Descendant Giznel, demanding to know why Isif has been avoiding his check ins. Isif puts on his logical voice and quiets the defective voice so he can weasel his way out of punishment. He wasn't trying to join the humans no, don't be ridiculous, he was out gathering intel. Like it or not, the humans will know betterment, yes of course. Luckily for Isif, his advice to Shaza to leave humans alone worked out in his favor, because attacking them at Silis and Fahl backfired horribly. See, while the humans were warped away from the planets, they decided to do a little trolling, and wiped out pretty much Shaza's entire sector. Farms were liberated, stations reduced to rubble, comms destroyed. She'll be finding out about the same time they are, Giznel muses, and Isif can't help but laugh at her misfortune.

He assures Giznel that Shaza brought this upon herself, and Giznel, while displeased, lets Isif go with a warning. He's an odd fellow, but he steams a good ham. As the video call ends, Isif receives a notification on the holopad Tarva left behind for him. A friend request and a message.

“No one deserves to be alone.”
Things are looking up for our lizard boy. I'm rooting for him, even if he does eat people.

Oh yeah, we left Slanek stranded on Silas with no hope of escape, didn't we? Let's go see how that's going.
“Shoot me,” I had coughed at Marcel. “Save yourselves…please, brother.”
Not great, apparently. Ok, ok, let's review. Slanek's been shot, Marcel has him held tight to his chest as he and Birla dash towards the emergency exit, the grays have stopped shooting in the hopes of taking the party alive, and Slanek's mind is going foggy because he's spilling all his orange juice from his booboo hole. I think we're caught up now.

He's fading in and out of lucidity, occasionally dipping back into the memories of Marcel and himself being tormented aboard Sovlin's ship. He tries to hang onto the moment he's in now but he's struggling to keep his eyes open. Birla catches him shutting them and reminds him to keep himself awake and not slip away. He inhales sharply as he awakens from nearly drifting off into a dreamless sleep, and realizes they've taken cover in a sewer when he starts getting coated in filthy water. Marcel is nowhere to be seen and Birla is trying to patch up his wound without any first aid supplies. Turns out he wandered off after Slanek nodded off to make sure the sewers are clear of Arxur troops.

Judging by the loud gunshot ringing out in the distance, the answer was no, and Slanek stumbles off towards the sound of fighting, where he catches Marcel and the arxur exchanging fire. They implore him to drop his weapon, insistent that they're happy to take him as an honored prisoner, but Marcel would rather not be taken hostage again, even if the arxur might treat him with considerably more respect. Slanek tries to stumble over so he can distract them, hoping that it might save Marcel from getting gunned down, though Birla kinda beats him to the punch by grabbing his gun and firing a shot into one of the grays skulls. He still tries to distract them by declaring himself to be wounded and yummy, but seeing Slanek up and about instead of resting distracts him more than it does the arxur, he manages to take one of the remaining two out in the confusion but takes a shot straight to the head. Slanek screams out in grief as Marcel's head snaps back and he crumples to the ground.

Birla takes out the last arxur as Slanek screeches his name and sobs and crawls over to Marcel on the ground, so delirious from grief and blood loss that he doesn't realize that Marcel is very much not dead. He starts lamenting his misery aloud and angrily slams his fist into Marcel's gut, awaking the stunned human with a yelp. He sits up and inspects his helmet, it grazed and bounced off the top, nicking the cloth and ringing Marcel's bell, as it were. Slanek finally expresses the pent up emotions he's been feeling for the entire trip, telling Marcel he's sorry for being so disappointing, and Marcel clarifies that he's not mad at Slanek, he's just mad at Slanek's narrow worldview. They discuss how it was insensitive of Slanek to suggest institutionalizing Virnt for the crime of liking Marcel as he starts stitching up Slanek's shoulder.

The two of them apologize to one another as Slanek finally understands that classifying every mental deficiency as predators disease, treating everyone who isn't quite normal like they're violent, dangerous savages about to tear people into shreds, isn't very cash money, and now, for now, the rift between the two is mended. Enjoy it while it lasts. Marcel, despite knowing the UN has left them to die, starts trying to radio in support, insistent they have a venlil VIP in need of immediate medevac. Slanek takes a moment to sit back and rest as Dino lays his head comfortingly over the venlil. He takes a moment to consider that even the non sapient predators deserve a chance, and finds that he feels rather safe sandwiched between two predators. Finally at peace with himself, he closes his eyes.
What a heavy batch to return into after such a long time. Forgive me, once again, for not posting often. I'll try to get a few more posts out before my vacation ends, then I should have more freetime sometime mid august assuming nothing else happens to take my attention away. It's been a pleasure, I missed this, and as always, this has been The Nature of Predators chapters 91-95. Thank you.
 
makes me wonder why venlil mentioned the flavour of things when they had no sense of smell..
Forgive me for double posting but I'm catching up on the thread here and I had to comment on this.
Smell is an important part of flavor, but the smells you taste are actually smelled through the back of the throat rather than the nose. Hypothetically this means that Venlil should still be able to smell things as long as they cram them down their gullets.

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I swear to God if the consortium captures Quana and Slaneks her I'm doxing SP15 and making him rewrite NoP at gunpoint
 
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- Most of what happened in CS and other furry settings isn't likely what really happened in-universe. As stated outright in at least one or two stories, the Chakats outright lie and make up truths and stories to tell whatever narrative that they want to push. Put simply, it's "written by the winners" on an omniversal scale; it also raises the question of what was actually going down in all of these stories, as well as background details like the often-mentioned-but-rarely-discussed "Gene Wars".
A small detail, I know, but given they started off as Star Trek fanfic, the "Gene Wars" may be a holdover from that setting's Eugenics Wars. Amusingly enough, given that one result of that was the Earth government and later the Federation as a whole taking a hardline stance against genetic modifications and genetically engineered lifeforms, they would likely be opposed to the Chakats existing, much less interacting with them.
 
A small detail, I know, but given they started off as Star Trek fanfic, the "Gene Wars" may be a holdover from that setting's Eugenics Wars. Amusingly enough, given that one result of that was the Earth government and later the Federation as a whole taking a hardline stance against genetic modifications and genetically engineered lifeforms, they would likely be opposed to the Chakats existing, much less interacting with them.

This is... something I wasn't aware of. Kinda funny to learn about, though it's not surprising; I've seen furries try and shove them into W40k plots, with similar designs. I.e., the Chakats/furries are supposedly on the side of humanity, but are constantly working against the pro-human groups/actively worshipping the Chaos Gods. It's just classic Mary Sue bullshit.
 
I think it's a case of such of the amount of people skilled enough and interested enough to do it being quite limited. Very little overlap between the "wants and is able to write a entire story about furries" and "self aware enough to understand why furries get so much hate and why they are cringe as fuck"
Also the average person still associates stuff with anthropomorphic animal characters as being something for kids. The fantasy/sci-fi genre fiction nerds know what's up but are obviously wary of it. And then furries just really don't have the attention span for reading.

So who's your audience, exactly?
 
Also the average person still associates stuff with anthropomorphic animal characters as being something for kids. The fantasy/sci-fi genre fiction nerds know what's up but are obviously wary of it. And then furries just really don't have the attention span for reading.

So who's your audience, exactly?

Some of those "burned furs" who apparently hate the fandom but still stick around? Or the occasional turbo-autist trying to come across as "interesting" or "different", but instead being pretentious/delusional, like most writers these days.
 
Here's something you might find interesting @Scream Aim Fire. It's another "Human vs Furry" story written by a Furry, except this time it's from the Human perspective. This story is known as Gungear.
Created by someone known as Catzk3, Gungear already seems to have attracted some ire from the Bad Webcomics Wiki.
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Reading through the page it seems to start off with plenty of legitimate criticisms, however it quickly devolves into sperging about how cultish and deranged the creator and the fanbase of Gungear are. Now while Furries tend to have plenty of weird subsections and cliques in their circle, I don't know what to think about this. Honestly it comes across more as someone with a bone to pick with Catzk3 and the BWW is where they've chosen to sperg about them.
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The artwork seems pretty cool though.
 

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Just like what I heard about Floraverse. Has anyone here read that? I tried to but the webpage was stuck on a perpetual loading screen and I couldn't be assed to make it work.
 
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