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How would you dismantle the welfare state sans a bust?
You can't. You'd be assassinated by the state before you could legally.
In all 248+ years of America existing, there was only ONE horrible war fought on its own soil for about five years, the American Civil War. And there is no one alive to remember it now.
There is a cycle of previous generations who have experienced great conflict leaving the stage and shit going down again. 80 years on average.
Remember that the great satan for gun owners, the NFA, was introduced in 1934. The youngest person to have memories (however fuzzy) of the Civil war would have been 5 in 1864/1865. That would make them ~75 years old by the passage of the NFA.
The civil war was the last gasp of the ideology the American founders. From 1861 to 1783is 100 years. Making a theoretical person who could remember the revolutionary war 83 years old.
1944+75=2019. We're at the tail end of a cycle, that's why there's extreme retardation happening. We really should be using Pearl Harbor as the mark so that's 1942, or 2017.
Which is one year late of the TDS shit, and two years late of Obergefell v. Hodges not resulting in SCOTUS being razed for gay marriage.
 
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Nixon was literally part of the centrist or moderate wing of the Republican Party with Reagan to his right and the Rockefeller types to his left.was largely seen as such by the public, as well you can see this in polling.
Jesus, please stop reading Wikipedia and pick up a real book

Nixon was seen as a centrist by the public lololol I can't with this. Nixon was the second most prominent cold warrior of the late 40s and the 50s until McCarthy crashed and burned, then he was number one. He was the reactionary fuck the hippies and pinkos candidate in 68 and 72. Nixon was only seen as a centrist by post hoc rationalizers who came into prominence on the right years and years after his resignation
 
Jesus, please stop reading Wikipedia and pick up a real book

Nixon was seen as a centrist by the public lololol I can't with this. Nixon was the second most prominent cold warrior of the late 40s and the 50s until McCarthy crashed and burned, then he was number one. He was the reactionary fuck the hippies and pinkos candidate in 68 and 72. Nixon was only seen as a centrist by post hoc rationalizers who came into prominence on the right years and years after his resignation
We Aren’t talking about Nixon in the 50s and 40s we are talking about Nixon in the 60s and 70s he literally constantly dealt with the further right wings of the party not agreeing with him. Also how could he have been the most hardcore cold warrior when he did detente with china (against the wishes of the right of the party)
 
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The astroturfing is insane, but it does have me worried. That being said, 41 cents to bet against Kamala seems like a pretty good deal, especially once the steam runs out and people remember that she's a terrible candidate.
I just don't see it happening for Trump at this point, he is appealing to Baby Boomer traditional Republicans who probably have had a noticeable demographic decline since 2020. Harris has a strong female vote solely on the fact they see voting her in as vengeance for the Trump era, in an inversion to the dynamics of the 2016 election. I would say Trump needed to focus more on the Midwest while having a VP like Youngkin to maintain and get suburban women voters, but it is a moot point now.

We will see though, I could be wrong, the overall vibe I get for this election is people burning out and no longer caring due to how shit everything is getting, so with depressed turnout, it will likely turn into a ground-game between who controls what voter booths in specific states and what specific demographics turnout.
 
@John Badman what the SS and cops did was a direct violation of the 3rd Amendment. I know these people don't care about the Constitution but it's worth mentioning that wars were started over this shit. There's also burglary, theft, breaking and entering... It's ultimate proof that these people don't give two shits about you or your rights.

What's even the point of the US Constitution if it's not enforced the same way any other laws are (well, should be) enforced. Those SS agents should be arrested immediately and treated like anybody else committing the same crime.

Fair. Second wave feminism was driven by Marxist academics.

The Frankfurt School.

So if I have to be sitting in a cramped bugpod with 6 other people, eating enviro-meat out of the tray as I file my 100th application that day, because you scared off those voters by not keeping Total Baby-Raper Death in your pants, I am going to be fucking pissed.
 
EU faggot Thierry Breton, who's a member of the EU Commission, threatens X with legal action unless they censor what the EU has classified as "disinformation" from the upcoming interview between Elon and Trump.

With great audience comes greater responsibility #DSA
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I think that in some ways the country has this crucial flaw that there are extreme elements in it that have at times been allowed to run amok and divert it from the Jeffersonian ideal. The Deep South and New England/the West Coast (founded mainly by New Englanders). The former got the shit beat out of it repeatedly until it learned. The latter hasn't and is begging for it (raze NYC, Boston and San Francisco to the ground and see how things would change).
Unfortunately I don't know that it did a damn thing to teach people there about the folly of warfare, because they still went on to support every other war at higher rates than the rest of the country (and especially sucking Israel's dick).
Learned what exactly? Not to step on federal power's toes or that the north gets ignore the rule of law at will? Or do you consider succession to be the "running amok"? Or was segregation "running amok?"

The US spent over half a century fighting the USSR just to become a milquetoast and transexual version of it.

In all 248+ years of America existing, there was only ONE horrible war fought on its own soil for about five years, the American Civil War. And there is no one alive to remember it now.
The revolutionary war was a terrible bloody war. In some places it was more civil war than colonist versus the british army. The war of 1812 was such a shitshow that the British managed to burn the white house down. Much of the indian wars from the time the first colonists landed to till the end in the early 1900s was bloody and bad. There have been a few horrible wars on US soil. The civil war holds providence because it is one of the key founding myths of modern American ideology like world war two is, but world war one isn't.

The US is young, unlike Europe, which went through CENTURIES of this - over there, the World Wars were seen as the end of the "shoot first and ask questions later" kind of thinking, and that's why most of Europe uses diplomatic solutions. America never had a devastating WW1-style war on its own land before.
You ascribe to Europeans a nobility they do not deserve. Europe does a lot diplomatically because for about 50 years there was this massive land hungry empire looking to enslave all of it. When world war 3 is one shot away, you learn to ask first, ask again, and ask a third time, because by god you can't afford to shot. However the current nonsense in Ukraine ought to be enough to tell you Europeans are over eager to get back to the important business of killing each other and fighting pointless wars.
 
Jesus, please stop reading Wikipedia and pick up a real book

Nixon was seen as a centrist by the public lololol I can't with this. Nixon was the second most prominent cold warrior of the late 40s and the 50s until McCarthy crashed and burned, then he was number one. He was the reactionary fuck the hippies and pinkos candidate in 68 and 72. Nixon was only seen as a centrist by post hoc rationalizers who came into prominence on the right years and years after his resignation
Yeah, and he ran against Kennedy (D), another cold warrior, and took office after Johnson (D), of Vietnam fame. Being against Soviet communism in the 1960s wasn't a right-wing idea, it was a common, truly centrist position. The Democrats going nuts in 1968 was the start of a real anti-Cold War faction, but being a hippy wasn't a mainstream position. He didn't get a landslide in 1972 by being far right.

On other policies he was centrist, center-right, or idiosyncratic. He instituted price controls, closed the gold redemption window, and enforced Johnson-era desegregation in the South. Goldwater (and later Reagan) were right-wingers opposing and critiquing Nixon since the early 1960s. There's no way you can look at the 1960s GOP and say Nixon was a winger.
 
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Groypers are planning to cripple Trump's campaign tomorrow in a groyper war. It's going to be the biggest Latinx LGBT event outside of San Francisco
>be brown catboy faggot
>loves Muslims
>gets trump voters arrested by encouraging them to enter the capital
>laughs when white children are murdered and tells white people not to do anything about it
>tries to sabotage the right wing party in favor of the most radical leftist candidate in American history.


this fag glows more then my profile picture.
 
I agree FDR let pearl harbor happen, or at the least turned a blind eye to the possibility it could. My real grievance with FDR was his Europe first policy. Oh sure Hitler declared war on us, but Hitler was an ocean away, the Japanese were right on our doorstep. Even going so far as to invade Alaska. It is without a doubt that FDR is one of the luckiest men to ever have lived that the Japanese caused enough damage at Pearl Harbor to gain the unconditional support of the American public for war; without delivering a crippling blow to forces in the pacific.

FDR actually had to sell the American public on war with Japan. Hawaii wasn't a state at the time and a lot of Americans didn't view it as something worth fighting over. The Philippines were a US commonwealth territory when Japan invaded them and we essentially just left them to be occupied. People in the continental US really didn't care about our overseas holdings to the point that FDR doesn't even mention that Guam and the Philippines have been invaded and occupied.

It's also easy to understand why FDR wanted to focus on Europe when you realize that there were a lot of first or second generation German Americans in the United States and there was a worry that if Hitler were victorious in Europe that many of those people would support him. The Japanese population in the US was small enough that we could put them in internment camps during the war, but there was no way the same could have been done with German Americans, particularly because they were a majority population group in several states.

EU faggot Thierry Breton, who's a member of the EU Commission, threatens X with legal action unless they censor what the EU has classified as "disinformation" from the upcoming interview between Elon and Trump.

Dear self-important Eurotrash blowhard,

Please stay the fuck out of our business and stop believing your limp-wristed faggot rules apply to America or Americans. Knock it the fuck off before we pull out all of our forces and bases and let Russia know that we're not going to bother interfering with anything they might do to you. Eat shit you worthless cucks.

Warmest regards,

An American citizen
 
Yeah, and he ran against Kennedy (D), another cold warrior, and took office after Johnson (D), of Vietnam fame. Being against Soviet communism in the 1960s wasn't a right-wing idea, it was a common, truly centrist position. The Democrats going nuts in 1968 was the start of a real anti-Cold War faction, but being a hippy wasn't a mainstream position. He didn't get a landslide in 1972 by being far right.
The audacity of him telling me to pick up a real book while he quotes pop history memes about hippies being anywhere near mainstream and Nixon being Reactionary lmao
 
Learned what exactly? Not to step on federal power's toes or that the north gets ignore the rule of law at will? Or do you consider succession to be the "running amok"? Or was segregation "running amok?"
To treat your fellow man like he is your fellow man.
Expansion of slavery
Intentionally leaving the rape of Christian women a legal act, including the possibility of concubinage of women as low as 1/8th Black
Violations of free speech rights and violence against abolitionist activists
Illegal military adventures in nearby countries to try and suck them into the US as slave states*
Changing conception of slavery from an institution that should be constrained and eventually eliminated to it being good shit we should actively promote to, by the time of George Fitzhugh, some people arguing we should actually enslave Whites to.
Becoming obsessed with the idea of being Medieval lords (like Mark Twain wrote about), the jousting competitions, Romanticism, titles, in general the aristocracy LARPing as Medieval lords and ladies.
Violent suppression of countersecession movements in places like Nickajack
Power grabs in divided states like trying to invade and subjugate Kentucky to a pretender government
Terrorism campaigns against Reconstruction governments, Blacks, White Republicans
Taking this shit (under Wilson) and then institutionalizing it nationwide
Helping to foster and promote (this done with the North's enthusiastic support) a proto-fascist movement in the form of the Ku Klux Klan
Maintaining a system of industrial slavery worse than real slavery by criminalizing normal behaviors, imprisoning people (on false charges if you can't get them on real ones), selling them out to private businessmen and then literally working them to death in steel mills, turpentine plantations and iron mines across Florida and Alabama
Denying men the right to a fair trial, consistent with basic human decency, instead killing them in mob violence
Attempting to use race war to subvert the union movement, suckering Whites and Blacks alike into company towns that used them as wage slaves where the corporations (many set up by Southern industrialists) where the company had the power of a government but with none of the constitutional limits
Bombing them from the air with poison gas when they tried to do something about the reign of terror
Using literacy tests to suppress not just the Blacks but also poor Whites that used to be allowed to vote
I'm not sure that Alabama state or local govt had any involvement in this at all, but the provision of fake medical treatment under false pretenses to use people in human experiments against their will
Forcing a regime of separation, stricter than what had existed during the actual period of slavery, where the underclass would be denied decent services their tax dollars paid for and forced into humiliation rituals
Using terrorism and brutality to try to resist their attempts to get political equality in a country their ancestors were forcedly dragged to hundreds of years ago**
Blowing up little Black girls in church to show how angry you are about niggers


*Although Walker supposedly did not originally intend to spread slavery to Nicaragua.
**Don't feel bad about the Yankees/Jews that got themselves killed in that swamp, though.

What I think was learned was how to stop thinking with ape brain, accept this population as part of broader society, and go back to its original principles that were more focused on individual freedom than on whether Negroes should be hung or just beaten for making eyes at muh sacred White woman. I've said many times, I believe, and I believe this in part because of how many Yankees who have come here have said it, that the South has better race relations today, much more so, and I believe so for a number of reasons (closer culturally, won't tolerate them starting shit/has a backbone). But I also know that it would not have shook out this way without them getting conked on the head by the Federals over and over again.

It's going to take a similar effort to beat the mind-virus of Big Government controlling everything out of the Yankee.
 
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What's even the point of the US Constitution if it's not enforced the same way any other laws are (well, should be) enforced. Those SS agents should be arrested immediately and treated like anybody else committing the same crime.
The constitution isn’t a normal law. It’s the framework for the government, outlining the powers the government has, and the restrictions on it. It’s the meta-physics to regular statutes physics.

Thus, the violation of the constitution doesn’t work in the same way that violation of a normal law does. So if, for example, a law or administrative regulation, allowed a third amendment violation, you don’t go arresting the violators. The law is ruled unconstitutional, essentially deleted out of existence. And the victims would also likely recover damages for the violation, but that would depend on the particulars of the suit.

In this particular case, you wouldn’t arrest them for committing a crime. You’d sue them under section 1983, and seek damages, and seek to have the law ruled unconstitutional.

This is all a very sky high overview, but in short, the Constitution doesn’t work nor is it executed the way normal laws are.

Edit: I will note that the local Police and DA could theoretically arrest them for home invasion or something similar, under a
theory that the lacked the power to commit their actions due to their unconstitutionally. But that’s still the same sort of idea as a civil suit, just on the criminal side of things. It’s also a far less likely scenario than just suing them under 1983. Could be fun though, and a headline grabber for a Conservative DA looking to make their way up the political ladder.
 
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