US US Politics General - Discussion of President Biden and other politicians

 

[John Badman]

Ok, so you view them as two warring factions within a larger group you distrust? Am I understanding that right?

Yes, I don’t distrust the Jews so much as I’m tired of their kvetching.

Ok, so what are the requirements for Jews to avoid that accusation then? Like supposing Trump were to institute a policy to deport all those not aligned with the United States (since it seems to me that you’re primary concern is their loyalty to “nation[‘s existence],” but please correct me if that’s wrong), what’s the benchmark for Jews to get to remain here instead of getting shipped off to the big sand pit?

I would enjoy it immensely if Trump deported all the Jews back to Israel. I think the baseline should be whether they have an interest in Israel’s state politics which are inherently tied in US politics because Jews run our government. If they have any sort of opinion on what to do about Israel and Gaza send them back. If they protest for Palestine they will be given the choice to become honorable Palestinians and be sent into the refugee camps. They don’t even have to be ethnically Jewish.

I’m not racist and don't want to kill the Jews. I just find them annoying. Like a fly that won’t stop buzzing in your ear.

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

Ah well I think that’s because railing against what you are is inherently paradoxical and tends to melt brains and confuse people

This is what I don't get about you guys.

One of the stated goals of Christianity is to convert Jews. A mass conversion of Jews to Christianity is a sign of the second coming. You constantly yell Christ is King and urge people to accept Jesus.

Once a Jew accepts Jesus and converts, you guys immediately say that he's tainted because he's Jewish and not to trust him. You constantly mock him by calling him a Jew and accuse him of sabotaging Christianity. This extends to the children of Jewish converts like Joel Osteen whose mother is a practicing Christian but is ethnically Jewish. The Church in medieval times objectively treated Jews who converted better than how you currently treat converts.

How do you justify this to yourselves, especially since you're not only disobeying Jesus's instructions to accept the convert but you're also delaying the second coming by deterring Jews from converting?

 

[Justsomecicada]

This is what I don't get about you guys.

One of the stated goals of Christianity is to convert Jews. A mass conversion of Jews to Christianity is a sign of the second coming. You constantly yell Christ is King and urge people to accept Jesus.

Once a Jew accepts Jesus and converts, you guys immediately say that he's tainted because he's Jewish and not to trust him. You constantly mock him by calling him a Jew and accuse him of sabotaging Christianity. This extends to the children of Jewish converts like Joel Osteen whose mother is a practicing Christian but is ethnically Jewish. The Church in medieval times objectively treated Jews who converted better than how you currently treat converts.

How do you justify this to yourselves, especially since you're not only disobeying Jesus's instructions to accept the convert but you're also delaying the second coming by deterring Jews from converting?

I’m not Christian. I’m agnostic I couldn’t tell you the psychology of someone like your describing.

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

If there was any notion of assimilating they would have vanished into the general population ages ago.

They did that in France and Germany, Dreyfus affair and the Nazis showed that assimilation is pointless.

 

[Hey Johnny Bravo]

Yes.... the (((Marxists)))

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Ah, yes. The mighty infographic. I kneel before you.

 

[draggs]

Ah, yes. The mighty infographic. I kneel before you.

Infographic-sama... I turn my head slightly the bullet misses my brain

Want Musk to respond with that George Washington cartoon so bad.

Musk has responded:

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1823076043017630114

https://archive.ph/ZhSs8

 

[STARS158]

This is what I don't get about you guys.

One of the stated goals of Christianity is to convert Jews. A mass conversion of Jews to Christianity is a sign of the second coming. You constantly yell Christ is King and urge people to accept Jesus.

Once a Jew accepts Jesus and converts, you guys immediately say that he's tainted because he's Jewish and not to trust him. You constantly mock him by calling him a Jew and accuse him of sabotaging Christianity. This extends to the children of Jewish converts like Joel Osteen whose mother is a practicing Christian but is ethnically Jewish. The Church in medieval times objectively treated Jews who converted better than how you currently treat converts.

How do you justify this to yourselves, especially since you're not only disobeying Jesus's instructions to accept the convert but you're also delaying the second coming by deterring Jews from converting?

Who said any of us were Christians?

 

[The Last Stand]

This is what I don't get about you guys.

One of the stated goals of Christianity is to convert Jews. A mass conversion of Jews to Christianity is a sign of the second coming. You constantly yell Christ is King and urge people to accept Jesus.

Once a Jew accepts Jesus and converts, you guys immediately say that he's tainted because he's Jewish and not to trust him. You constantly mock him by calling him a Jew and accuse him of sabotaging Christianity. This extends to the children of Jewish converts like Joel Osteen whose mother is a practicing Christian but is ethnically Jewish. The Church in medieval times objectively treated Jews who converted better than how you currently treat converts.

How do you justify this to yourselves, especially since you're not only disobeying Jesus's instructions to accept the convert but you're also delaying the second coming by deterring Jews from converting?

You're weird. There's your justification.

 

[Übertroon]

They did that in France and Germany, Dreyfus affair and the Nazis showed that assimilation is pointless.

The jews had been in France and Germany for a millennia at that point. Being 50% Jewish at that stage takes effort, being 100% Jewish is a feat of malice.
Also Dreyfus was targeted for being from Elsass and a German speaker. But a jew got targeted so all the jews had to circle the wagons and go ballistic just as they did when Leo Frank got lynched for raping and murdering a girl.

 

[ChrisIsGay]

Vance wearing eyeliner makes sense now. Turns out he is a troon. Just like lady MAGA.

 

[AnitaSarsleezian]

To hate somebody is a very strong negative sentiment to have from somebody. The older I've become, the more I understood Archie's character dynamic. You'd laugh at his bigoted statements because he is just an old man from a bygone era. However, you'd come to realize that deep down, Archie does care for his family enough to provide them with opportunities he may not have when he was their age. You can also ask the question of HOW Archie developed as the crotchy old man he was then.

He actually reminds me of my grandmother with his strong beliefs on certain demographics. Archie is tame compared to many leftists that would outright deface, hurt, humiliate, even KILL if you publicly endorse somebody outside their viewpoint.

It's healthy to not take antagonistic comments seriously and that's a big part of the problem today is that so many people do. A while ago I was on the A Train heading into Manhattan sitting next to some blind black guy. This guy, for whatever reason, thought I was black and he just started preaching to me about how evil white men are and how everyone is jealous of the black man because, "The black man has a different kind of engine! Hear me brother?" to which I kept responding, "Preach, brother!" In Between I kept stifling laughs and even the people sitting across from me, a mix of all races, were all snickering or covering their mouths and trying not to laugh out loud. Not only was the shit he saying absurd and hilarious, I think we all got a kick out of the fact that he was blind and didn't even know I was white. That shit was the highlight of my trip. I still laugh about it. Was he racist? Maybe, I don't know. But it was funny as fuck.

Have I been the victim of real racism? Hells yeah. One time I went to St. Albans (A notoriously bad black neighborhood - one of the worst) because a junkyard there was one of the only places that had a part for my car I needed. Within seconds of parking in front of the junkyard and getting out of my car I was set upon by a gang of black kids who started shoving me and telling me, "White boy, you're in the wrong neighborhood!" As I broke free and ran back to my car, one of them threw a bottle and hit me in the head. I got back to my car and (naïvely) went to the local precinct to report the assault only for the cop to start harassing me because I clearly was lying about my car. The only reason, as far as he was concerned, that white kids are in that neighborhood is to score drugs and he kept pushing me to come clean about what I was buying. I think lefties today would call this "Victim blaming". I just went home, bandaged my cut, and called it a day. And I still can sit next to a blind black guy and laugh at his supposed racism. I refuse to give anyone power over me to control me and tell me who to hate and turn me into a bitter person.

Hell, my fiancée, who's Chinese, used to laugh uncontrollably when my father, in the late stages of his alzheimer's, would at the dinner table completely forget her name and call her "Suzie Wong" when talking to her. People taking this shit too seriously is what started to throw things into a tailspin.

that kind of "ousts" my politics in some way is that I have an NRA sticker strategically placed under a "No Soliciting" sign right at my fr

Lefties always noticed the NRA sticker on my car window and on my front door of my old house I had a sticker that said, "This house believes in God and Guns. Enter uninvited and be prepared to meet both". Did I have a gun? No, in NYC it's virtually impossible to get the paperwork to own a gun but nevertheless I knew any lefties who rang my bell would know exactly what kind of person lived there and what they'd be in for.

 

[Kankichi Ryotsu]

If the government can grant it to you, they can take it away.
Ergo, it is not a right.

Yes, rights don't emanate from individuals. Without a state those rights are just lofty ideals that don't actually exist. You can say your house is your private property but if I go there with a group of buddies and occupy it, who's going to interject on your behalf?
If those rights are violated, who intervenes? It's the forces of the state. Because the state recognizes your right to private property, it can also punish me when I violate that right by stealing your property. Rights don't make sense outside of the state.

 

[General Emílio Médici]

No Dreyfuss and Leo Frank had a lot of differences.

On Dreyfuss case you had a lot of people in the French army wanting to throw him under the bus to save themselves and playing into the dirty jew steryotype helped. Frank's case however was them circling the wagons around a fucking disgusting person because of people from outside of the deep south wanting to shit on segregation and lynching and going for support of Leo Frank to do so was popular.

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

The jews had been in France and Germany for a millennia at that point. Being 50% Jewish at that stage takes effort, being 100% Jewish is a feat of malice.

Pretending that there wasn't external pressure to keep them separated is laughable, it's not like the Christians were welcoming Jews with open arms. There's internal pressure too but it's not like a Jew could walk away safely.

Also Dreyfus was targeted for being from Elsass and a German speaker. But a jew got targeted so all the jews had to circle the wagons and go ballistic just as they did when Leo Frank got lynched for raping and murdering a girl.

What revisionist garbage. It was explicitly because he was Jewish and everyone knew it, hence the newspaper articles and the political cartoons showing Jews as a threat.

 

[STARS158]

What revisionist garbage. It was explicitly because he was Jewish and everyone knew it, hence the newspaper articles and the political cartoons showing Jews as a threat.

I don't suppose you could figure out the issue?

 

[Eggplant Wizard]

Islam is right about women.

Fucking Christ Almighty.

Look, I know I’m going to catch some shit for asking but is this looking less like “Islam/Christianity/Whatever is right about women!“ and more like “Can we finally admit that God can make mistakes sometimes?”

 

[Jacques1194]

Because I live in a blue state, I don't dare to wear Trump stuff or have any yard signs or bumper stickers for this VERY reason.

If I didn't have kids, I would at least wear a t-shirt or a MAGA hat or something in public just out of rebellion. Plus, I'm preggo right now, and I can't afford to have some psycho do something to me.

This is when I knew how bad things were going to get: Right after the 2016 Election, I went out shopping wearing a red baseball cap that was not a MAGA hat. While I was shopping, this weird man followed me around the entire store. When he got close enough, he got a clear look of my cap and said, "Good. Your hat isn't what I thought it was." I asked him, "What if it was?" and he gave me a very weird look. I waited in the store for an extra 30 minutes; waited until I literally saw him check out, get to his car, and drive off.

But, you know, at the end of the day ... In that situation, I was the potential weirdo. lol.

I also live in a blue state and area. On the topic of political merchandise I obviously don't see anyone wearing any Trump items. The only two times I probably have seen someone wearing them was back in 2017 when I saw this old man wearing a MAGA cap, and someone driving their pickup truck with MAGA flags. What I do find suspicious though is that despite the large hype surrounding Kamala I haven't seen anyone putting out any Kamala signs, posters, or stickers of her here. Maybe its still a bit early, but you would think with how big they are making her out to be and if we were to trust polls that we would see them everywhere. The only thing I could think of is if maybe people aren't big on political merchandise like last elections? If not then its very weird.

 

[CaddestSlown]

Look, I know I’m going to catch some shit for asking but is this looking less like “Islam/Christianity/Whatever is right about women!“ and more like “Can we finally admit that God can make mistakes sometimes?”

After the assassination attempt, my grandma, bless her heart, said "God has a plan for everyone, and when their time comes, that plan is over," in regards to Trump, who she self-admittedly isn't voting for. And I agree, despite how non-religious as I am. There was no mistake here, my eggplant friend.

God's plan for this woman is to be a dumb fucking cunt, make her gender look retarded, and make people regret allowing them basic human rights.

 

[Brenda Holiday]

despite the large hype surrounding Kamala I haven't seen anyone putting out any Kamala signs, posters, or stickers of her here

Isn't it always like this though, even in 2016? I'm starting to realize being in a very Trump loving area has made me out of touch and unaware of what's going on in blue areas. It's crazy. I thought maybe it had simmered down.

 

[Calandrino]

God's plan for this woman is to be a dumb fucking cunt, make her gender look retarded, and make people regret allowing them basic human rights.

God seems to have that plan for an awful lot of women tbh