Ukrainian Defensive War against the Russian Invasion - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

I haven't been tuned in since they killed my favorite character (RIP hotdog man) but the writers got me back in with this new arc. I think I might laugh myself to death if this ends in them basically trading Kursk and Belgorod for Donut republic and Luhansk. What are the comparative resources between Donut/Luhansk and Belgorod/Kursk?
 
Putin should've chosen his own words and retire after Medvedev. Not "become a PM" to totes not be in power but let the things flow naturally. He also should've let his citizens become rich and happy, because the natural base of the Russian State can outshine even sandnigger sheikhs.

But he's still just a moth that carried a briefcase for his master. He became rich beyond his wildest dreams and he decided to go for the ultimate goal - which he would've achieved, had he waited and did the RIGHT thing. But.

Moth with crippling insecurities and a red button. A perfect encapsulation of modern Russia.
 
I haven't seen anything about this elsewhere yet, but wouldn't surprise me if true:

Tl;dr: Putin allegedly fired Gerasimov & replaced him with old KGB/FSB hack Alexander Bortnikov, then 24hrs later replaced Bortnikov with a guy named Dyumin who is the former head of the FSO (Russian Secret Service).

Imagine the complete lack of surprise:
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Sounds like the green-text needs to be updated, with US troops running out of water while fighting Mexico.
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How the fuck does an Army run out of water. In Europe and within your own borders of all places? Russian Logistics truly are a magical creature.
 

KPR citizens to be deported to Zaporizhzhia​

I called today with the governor of the Zaporizhzhya region, Evgeny Balitsky. (https://t.me/BalitskyEV) We discussed the current situation in the Kursk region and possible measures to improve the security of our citizens. Zaporizhzhia region is a region that lives under martial law, fights against Ukrainian Nazism every day, has a huge experience both in military operations and in volunteer work, and this experience can help us.

One of the key topics of the conversation was assistance in accommodation of resettled people from the border areas. Yevhen Balitsky suggested to use for this purpose sanatoriums and boarding houses on the shores of the Azov Sea, located from Berdyansk to Kirillovka.

In the near future the first flights will be staffed to deliver people to the temporary accommodation centers of Zaporizhzhya region. Also, Zaporizhzhya volunteers have arrived in Kursk region, who will provide assistance to the residents here on the spot.

In addition, lawyers and specialists from the Government of Zaporizhzhya region will be working on the ground to help the residents of Kursk region to draw up the necessary documents and provide legal support within the framework of the counter-terrorist operation regime.
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Something that is rarely reported on is the active colonisation effort of the occupied territories by Russians. The property of refugees is stolen by the state and sold through middlemen to Russian investors, and the Russian government is paying handsomely for people from Russia to resettle there. This is reminiscent of the Israeli actions in the West Bank, where continued settlement has created a mess that can no longer be unentangled with normal political means and thus justifies its own perpetuation.
Most of Russia looks like a post-apocalyptic wasteland and would benefit from even a fraction of the money that is spent in the occupied territories, but who cares about Russia? Not the Russian leaders. The worse the life of the cattle, the more are willing to sell their soul to the state and line up for slaughter.


Ukrainians continue to invest in Kursk, with unclear goals. I assume it will end up being an overall loss due to a lack of appraisal of actions based on rational metrics, even removing troops from the already overmatched East for what is a political project, and a history of persisting in operations, long after the cost-benefit has become murky, by the Ukrainian leadership.
Russian strategic goal is the capture of Donbas, Ukrainian is the destruction of a maximum number of Russian forces with minimal own losses. It's highly questionable whether the incursion into Kursk is suitable for that.


At a Russian Border Post, Scenes of Ruin After Ukraine’s Surprise Attack​

A week after the biggest foreign incursion into Russia since World War II, The New York Times visited one of the spots where Ukrainian forces stormed into Russia and surprised the defenders.
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Two Ukrainian employees of the Sudzha gas station have gone missing after the AFU invaded Kursk Region.​

Yes, since February 2022, a couple of Naftogaz specialists have been living quietly in Sudzha in Kursk - with a yellow and blue flag in their room, a US flag and other attributes.
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Apparently such open display of Satanism and Nazism was alright with the Russian government so long as the people on top financially benefited.

An enemy balloon 🇺🇦 over the atomic city of Energodar 🇷🇺 is not an uncommon phenomenon.​

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The purpose of balloons can be different. It is optical and electronic reconnaissance with the help of stabilized high-resolution cameras. It is also a long-distance relay of communications of army radio stations and reconnaissance UAVs, which thus get the opportunity to fly far into our rear.

Such balloons are a very important element of modern high-tech warfare, giving the enemy significant advantages. On the bank of the Dnieper River I observed such a thing in the area of Vasilievka in Zaporozhye. They tried to shoot it down with a machine gun, but it was far away. And so the height of its flight is from one and a half to three kilometers. That's what we observed. At one and a half kilometers it can be destroyed even with FPV.

One way or another, one way or another, it must be done, otherwise we will see enemy Baba Yaga and kamikaze drones a hundred kilometers away from the contact line.
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Iirc having any prisoner talk on camera to say anything more than their name is a warcrime (albeit a minor one).
Not quite right.
The only thing a POW is requited to give their captors, and the only information that can be compelled from them, is Name, Rank and Serial Number/ID number. The captor is allowed to request more or otherwise encourage the POWs to give up more than that, but that's all that's required.
If uninjured they cannot be compelled to work in war industry, and they are not be used for propaganda purposes, but both of these are so vague there are nearly infinite holes. North Vietnam liked to parade captured US Airmen on camera just so the world could see they were alive and not being tortured anywhere that wouldn't show in a dress uniform - its totally not Propaganda bro!

What Ukraine is doing is "No bro this isn't propaganda, we asked this dude if he wanted to send a message to his family that he's OK and he said he totally wanted to. We suggested that if he wanted to make a statement about how he wasn't cool with the war he could also do that - but that was just a suggestion we made dude! We're just putting it on tiktok to ensure they get it, he said he was cool with that too."

Putin should have spent more time cleaning up the Russian armed of its rampant corruption, embezzlement, and general complacency. [ ... ] I also suspect the only reason his cronies haven't tried making a move against him is they're getting kickbacks from military contractors to keep the war going as long as possible.
If Putin had tried to root out the rampant corruption in the military, he would have been coup'ed if not just straight assassinated.

The reason his cronies haven't made a move was:
A) until last week, Russia was under no threat from Ukraine. They would have been able to stop the war at any time by just pulling their forces back behind their borders. Doesn't matter if you send a million mobliks to their deaths and ultimately fail, there is no personal risk to you.
B) No one can make a move against Putin because if they do, they know they will taken out quickly by one of their power-hungry peers.


How the fuck does an Army run out of water. In Europe and within your own borders of all places? Russian Logistics truly are a magical creature.
Quaint of you to assume even Western Russia has indoor plumbing.

Ukrainians continue to invest in Kursk, with unclear goals. I assume it will end up being an overall loss due to a lack of appraisal of actions based on rational metrics, even removing troops from the already overmatched East for what is a political project, and a history of persisting in operations, long after the cost-benefit has become murky, by the Ukrainian leadership.
Russian strategic goal is the capture of Donbas, Ukrainian is the destruction of a maximum number of Russian forces with minimal own losses. It's highly questionable whether the incursion into Kursk is suitable for that.
Yeah, I'm also concerned this will become a "final stage of Bahkmut" situation.
At Bahkmut, for months Ukraine was inflicting vastly disproportionate losses on Russia as well as tying down a stupid amount of the Russia military to take one worthless town. Once Wagner was able to start meatwave flanking actions the Ukrainians couldn't counter-push, the situation wasn't tenable anymore and if they had done an orderly withdraw it would have been a strategic victory. Instead command was very clearly overly emotionally invested in holding out as long as possible, and they overstayed and tried to reinforce the position and allowed Russia to reduce that disproportionality. Ukraine was also forced to give up some territory beyond Bahkmut cheaper than it should have been because the units in the area were too banged up; they were too banged up from that defense to be able to take advantage of the Wagner Civil War.

Right now Ukraine is winning bigly. They are getting amazing PR, they are destroying lots of Russian equipment (some of it irreplaceable) and in general showing the world that Russia can bleed and has a very tiny dick. If there is some defensive line that can be set inside Russian territory, they can slow and distract Russia for months, but my understanding of the area is that doesn't exist, its very flat. While this counter-invasion is far from stopped, minus a sudden pivot or unexpected battle, the easy gains are done. Now that both hands are on the job, Russia is managing to find the general area its own ass. Minus the Kursk NPP which just from the heat maps Ukraine seems to be avoiding, there isn't anything strategic to take & deny Russia; they could disrupt Russia's mining of the Kursk Anomaly and further fuck Russia's steel industry, but that would require occupying the entire Oblast which I just don't think is possible let alone realisitic. But no major rail hubs, no supply depots, not even any heavy defense industry or even significant agriculture.

I'm concerned that Yook High Command will try to keep this going well past the and end up over committing and taking losses they need not have taken.

OTOH if the US unfucks itself and green lights ATACMS strikes on Russian military airbases....
 
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Ziggas must've been sleeping when Beirut went under a mushroom cloud of its own.
If the thing with Russian occupiers setting some garbage on fire at ZNPP as a distraction is real, then it's extremely pathetic

I'm seeing news about pedo Scott Ritter getting raided by FBI
Wasn't that a week ago? He's both a traitor and a recidivist pedo. He's connected via signalling boosting of various sorts to every major English language shill outlet and was feted while talking gibberish Russian to a force of Kadyrovites on parade. The commie thread should realise they're backing the bad guys. Dougan and Phillips are also sex pest (former, failed cop, fled a sex offence trial and the latter was a sex blogger who in recent months was going around with what looked like a very underage girl).
 
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there isn't anything strategic to take & deny Russia;

Yeah, if they're not going for the power plant then there really doesn't seem to be a point to all this. Russia certainly doesn't seem to be in any great hurry (or showing capability) to address it.

Which, in turn, makes me wonder if the theory about this being a big cover for espionage operative insertion doesn't have merit. It is such a shit show that Russia clearly has no grip on (while Belarus is trying to treat sucking Putin's dick like it's an Olympic Sport as always), there'd be no way to monitor people blending into the refugees heading east. Make a big show about the invasion before backing off, let Russia have a 'big dick' moment of pushing back the invasion, while the real long term objectives are ongoing with Russian command none the wiser.

For all we know, KPP is still a target, but they're going Black Ops to knock it out vs steamrolling tanks on its grounds.
 
Looks like some affluent Russian families are going to be pissed; first that they were lied to about their sons being in combat, then when they find out their little Ivans surrendered to the filthy hohols, and lastly when their MoD fines them for their perfidy & cowardice:
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This is the youngest & cleanest group of Russian soldiers I've seen together outside of their new Young Pioneers organizations. Makes me wonder who their parents are & where they came from.
 
Looks like some affluent Russian families are going to be pissed; first that they were lied to about their sons being in combat, then when they find out their little Ivans surrendered to the filthy hohols, and lastly when their MoD fines them for their perfidy & cowardice:
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This is the youngest & cleanest group of Russian soldiers I've seen together outside of their new Young Pioneers organizations. Makes me wonder who their parents are & where they came from.
I can only clearly see 2, but they both look like Chuds.
Brother Wars are truly horrific.
 
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"We had a good thing, you stupid son of a bitch! We had Donetsk. We had Crimea. We had everything we needed, and it all ran like clockwork. You could've shut your mouth, plundered the country and made as much money as you ever needed. It was perfect. But, no, you just had to blow it up. You and your pride and your ego! You just had to be the man. If you'd done your job, known your place, we'd all be fine right now."

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Amazing how little of the original dialog you have to change to make it fit.
 
The contrast between the violent russophobia Trump displayed in 2018, rising to the level of satanism and nazism with tweets such as this, and the complete subservience of the MAGA movement to Kremlin interests in 2022+ is amazing.
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Times sure have changed.
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It's interesting to see what competent military action looks like, also a contrast to the bumbling dysfunction we are used to seeing from Russia in this conflict.


Fighterbomber claims Polish mulattos are practicing an attack on Kaliningrad.​

Two hours ago, the Psheks were practicing operations in the Kalinigrad Special District. Under cover of a fighter formation. (They're down below)
They made six attack runs. In the last run, they deployed 40 kilometers from the state border.

They're practicing.
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Fighterbomber claims Polish mulattos are practicing an attack on Kaliningrad.​


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That would be terrible if Königsberg was returned to the Polish! How else would the Russians jam aircraft over NATO Lake the Baltic Sea, justify invasion of the Suwalki corridor or just be general pricks to the rest of Europe?
 
Russian Assault in the Vuhledar direction got ACKed.

Confirmed kills on 7 BMPs, 3 critically endangered MT-LB and one T80 turret sent into lower orbit.
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This is honestly fucking terrifying.

Like, you have vehicles going in every which direction and every single one blows up with direct hits. Hell, that one guy jumps from the tank(?) before it blows and I'm pretty sure the shockwave from the blast would have killed him, if not done serious harm to his physical being.

And this is Ukraine, using second hand equipment from decades ago and some retrofitted consumer level drone platforms.
 
Ukrainian drone operators training:

Meanwhile from what I've seen, Russian drone training is done sitting in front of 90's/early '00 era bootleg Pentium-4 machines & monitors, which are barely running a modded rip-off of Arma 3.
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Edit: which reminds me, last year sometime I saw a Ukrainian-written (IIRC) tactical drone game on Steam. So besides shitty Chinese FPV sims, that's probably what the Russians are using now.
 
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Looks like some affluent Russian families are going to be pissed; first that they were lied to about their sons being in combat, then when they find out their little Ivans surrendered to the filthy hohols, and lastly when their MoD fines them for their perfidy & cowardice:
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This is the youngest & cleanest group of Russian soldiers I've seen together outside of their new Young Pioneers organizations. Makes me wonder who their parents are & where they came from.
Hate to be unfair and give into selection bias but I love the grizzled bearded chad juxtaposing the freshfaced volunteers who look ready for their first day of training.
If nothing else it gives some small insight into the mettle of these volunteers. If they all look this green then no wonder they buckled immediately.
 
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