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Progressives jostle for nat sec jobs under Harris

Progressive national security professionals already are angling for positions in a possible Kamala Harris administration, hoping to steer the White House in a different direction on Israel and other issues after being largely shut out under President Joe Biden.

Some progressive activists plan to draft lists of people Harris could hire at places such as the National Security Council and the Defense Department. Others are polishing their résumés, sketching out policy briefs and mapping their connections to Harris world.

The progressives’ ultimate goal is to influence American foreign policy and national security from the inside. This proved hard to do under Biden, a Democratic moderate who came to the White House with a massive stable of longstanding aides — many of whom could trace their careers back to the Clinton administration. It didn’t help that progressives have relatively few people in their ranks with significant government experience in foreign policy roles.

Their plans, however, are a sign that Harris will face pressure on both policy and personnel from her left flank if she wins.
 
One thing the media could realize is no one takes fat black women seriously, so you add in their catty bitching it makes you look even worse as you try and deflect Trump's success last night.
Softball questions
Anyone who saw the WikiLeaks emails knows CNN was one of many journalistic outlets coordinating with Hillary Clinton's campaign to get her elected. They don't get to complain about softballing anyone.
 
We need to stop relying on social media for everyday information. X cannot, SHOULD NOT, be a public space for political discussion.
Late, but what alternative do you suggest? And remember it can't be a "news organization" because those become infiltrated and taken over by marxists. It has to be open, it has to allow people to post information anonymously, it has to be easily accessible to every day Americans.

The more I think about it, the more I don't understand the absolute banks worth of money used for campaigning as hard as they do given modern America's political polarization. I know undecided people exist, but I have NEVER in the past 8 years met one. I also wouldn't even understand their thought process behind weighing the 2 candidates at this point. I assume they'd have to be actually retarded to consider it for the entire length of the campaign.
Polarization of Americans is a product of that money being spent. Every news organization, every journalist, every influencer, expects a paycheck for fighting the good fight. Every article, every smear ad, every oversampled poll costs something. The DNC only carries legitimate voters because of its vast propaganda machine. The money stops flowing and that machine grinds to a halt.

Literally yeah. The Founding Fathers generation mostly wanted to constrain it to the Atlantic South with an understanding that it would die out on its own (this was an accurate prediction until the cotton gin). There was a huge abolitionist push during the Revolution, pretty much all of the Northern states abolished it (through gradual emancipation) and some of the Southern states had heavy pushes for it.

The Fire Eater ideology of the Civil War was something that developed later.
It was a cope out to make the Revolution possible by those non-slave owning founding fathers. And to take a step further, I dare say it was a stupid belief, given too many people's livelihoods were tied up in that "industry." I don't understand how you can call the expansion of slavery running amok when institution of it was a well oiled machine prior to the revolution and after. Perhaps this really just boils down to what was and what was ideal.

Or William Lloyd Garrison (pacifist), or Lysander Spooner (pacifist/anarchist that supported both slave revolts and the Confederacy), or a million others.
It was a massive campaign of constitutional rights violations that, to Northern audiences, made the Fire Eaters look (correctly, in my opinion) like massive hypocrites.
If you could provided a good source on this, that would be helpful.

Kentucky/right to leave
I think there really is three justifications for leaving one polity and joining an other/creating your own. 1) A legal ability to leave, 2) a right to live free of tyranny, and 3) simply winning militarily. I can't say to the rights of individual counties to leave a state, and the question of states leaving is rather moot at this point. I think one can't say however that the Union had a right to bring the south back into the fold, while at the same time saying the Confederates had no right to do the same to their own rebellious types.

I've never cared for that cliche.
Nobody does till their people or cause is labeled as terrorism. The fools of January sixth being the latest batch to get that treatment.

Black voting would have had an effect of changing the character of the south, as it did. Actions taken to overcome black voting were always going to occur, and I personally refuse to denigrate men who sought to keep their country theirs. I admit I am biased given what has become of efforts at enfranchisement, integration and civil rights. Any disenfranchisement of southern whites was/is unacceptable, and arguable made things worse. The mass Americanization of a population like blacks was a detriment to America. Even today, birth right citizenship is the vehicle by which the unelectable subvert the republic by adding more voters.

Pithy non-response.
What should be the response? That slavery as an institution was going to come back in some fashion given its departure or post war politics? That the system was only made possible by northern republicans who wrote the 13th amendment so as to allow that labor? Old habits die hard, and definitely when those habits are enabled by the same government that official sought to stamp out such treatment officially.

Them and all the other men that were accused of a crime and never given the right to speak for themselves to a burden of proof consistent with what was given to their fellow citizens.
Leo got his day in court.

I can agree extrajudicial killings is wrong, but I can also note that the presence of law does not mean justices will be done. As the current injustices in the UK clearly show. Its a very fine line.

Someone's life is suddenly cheaper, just because they're a different person, to where you can kill them by the judgment of a few drunks that do what they do under the cover of robes for shame?
Who says most lynching were done under robes? Leo's wasn't, neither was Till's.

I believe in freedom of association nowadays,
So you basically agree with Clarence Thomas.

Contradiction? Not a contradiction at all.
You say lynching was rare. Do you think every time a black man made a pass at a white woman he was beaten/assaulted or lynched? And more to my point do you suppose every case of lynching was a good boy getting murdered by them evil whites? You talk about southern willingness to deal with blacks doing wrong. Where do you think that willingness came from? At what point did the issue flip from murder of innocent black men lookin at white women to the rightful punish of violent anti-social types with black skin?

Perhaps it could be said that the history of "justice" in the south as been one of refinement from loose cannon hotheadedness to a more restrained use of court, procedure and evidence. However, I can't think of what would make the south better about dealing with black crime but that hotheadedness, that the rest of the country lacks. Maybe it has to do with the lynching in the sense that the southerner will be tarred and feathered no matter how we deal with black crime, so we might as go for proper justice. Whereas others are to scared of being labeled racist as to do the same?

Wilson. segregation and the Klan
I really don't know enough about Wilson to comment beyond him liking that film, birth of a nation.

Sex Slavery
Do you have any good sources on this, I've never read or seen anything about a the sexual aspect of slave trade in the south.

William Walker
Interesting figure. Do you oppose the expansion west and conquest of native Americans? It can easily be conveyed that both were undertaken by primarily private citizens, without the backing of the federal government on a number of occasions.
 
Morning, ladies and germs! It's Taxpayer Tuesday and there's no telling what crazy shit will happen today.
When you get right down to it dukat and the cardassians are amazing because they are part of a fascist society that is EXTREMELY 3 dimensional. Its literally alien standards that they treat as the norm, so they don't walk into screen eating babys and shooting puppies. For a large part of the show they have to get along with the feds while dealing with their own social political issues.

Dukat puts cardassias interests first but he's not genocidal and tries to minimize collateral. It's easy to judge him by human standards, But compared to the cardassian glowies? He's a saint.
It's unfortunate that, of all the characters, Gul Dukat got this treatment. I feel like, after the death of Ziyal, the writers should have closed the chapter on Dukat and let his last line be "I forgive you" to Sisko. In my opinion, Ira Steven Behr was the one who had a serious stick up his ass about Marc Alaimo and people humanizing Dukat - they redeemed Damar who was Dukat's right-hand man, they redeemed Garak who was a brutal murderer, they redeemed Kira who was a vicious terrorist; but Dukat? That went too far. For some reason.

Ira Steven Behr seemed to have a serious problem with Marc Alaimo.

The Cardassians were one of the best alien societies that Star Trek ever conceived. Jeri Taylor deserves full credit and it's fucking shameful that she does not get more credit for her work throughout Star Trek.
 
You're right, but no matter how much damage Trump can do to them with his one remaining term, it's a drop in the ocean compared to what happens if an independent wins the election - or even comes close to it. There are so many votes being suppressed and redirected to the two parties right now using the logic that it's literally hopeless for an independent to win. At least if indies have to run as one of the two parties they can keep control of the bulk of votes (and with the DNC they can make sure no indie candidate gets nominated. Even with the RNC, Trump only managed it the first time due to the pied piper strategy). If the American people realize they don't have to vote for just the Big Two, both the DNC and the GOP get destroyed.

Of course they're doing it. They did it the first time, too.

I know, I was more pointing out that at least you have a better system of picking your leader so an independent-type can win. Although the huge vote for Reform in the UK is showing people are waking up. Ours is basically a 2 party system too. The last time the Liberals won was in 1906. The 2010 coalition doesn't count. Conservatives won the election but didn't have quite enough seats to form a government (they had 306 seats and needed 326 as you need over half of the 650 seats contested) so the Liberals, who were a distant 3rd (57 seats) well behind Labour (258 seats), agreed to a coalition so that there were enough seats to form the government.

Unlike the USA we don't get to pick the leaders of the parties just before the general election. There are leadership elections in parties when the party wants them via a vote of no confidence (except Labour, there can only be leadership challenges) or if a leader steps down and you can't just have anybody running as a candidate for the leader of a party (or at least not the big 3) like you can in the USA, the candidate must be a member of the party who is an MP ("member of parliament", an elected politician) and the other MPs in the party (and also trade unions in Labour's case) select a group of candidates the party members can vote for. In order to vote for a candidate to be a leader of a party you have to be a fully paid-up member of that party, not just registered to vote for them as we don't have party affiliation on voter registrations.
 
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If anyone can find and archive written sources this would make a pretty huge thread on its own.

Tl;dr: since Biden fucked up the Afghanistan pullout so bad that countless people who assisted the US got left behind, one guy took it upon himself to try to evacuate women and children with nobody giving him financial support as admitting Biden fucked up is taboo. CNN discovered him and defamed him so hard he has a clear avenue to sue.
 

If Harris Declines, 2 Proposed Debates Will Become Trump Town Halls​

So far, Trump and his Democrat opponent Kamala Harris have one confirmed debate scheduled for Sept. 10.
A pair of proposed presidential debates could instead become town hall meetings for former President Donald Trump, his campaign confirmed with The Epoch Times on Aug. 11.

The Republican presidential nominee and his Democrat opponent, Vice President Kamala Harris, have both agreed to participate in a Sept. 10 debate on ABC News. This comes despite the former president’s concerns over a conflict of interest with the network, which faces a lawsuit in which Trump alleges the network defamed him.
He is now waiting for Harris to accept two additional proposed debates—Sept. 4 on Fox News and Sept. 25 on NBC News.

If she rejects those proposals, which Trump made during an Aug. 9 news conference, Trump will appear solo on those national TV networks, a Trump campaign adviser said.

The Epoch Times has sought comment from the Harris campaign.

“I look forward to seeing Kamala at all three Debates!” Trump said in an Aug. 11 post on his social media platform, Truth Social.

He also released additional details about the moderators and locations of the proposed debates.

The Sept. 4 Fox News debate or town hall would be aired live from Harrisburg, Pennsylvania.

On Sept. 10, David Muir, anchor of “ABC World News Tonight,” will serve as moderator for a confirmed showdown at Philadelphia’s Independence Hall.

On Sept. 25, NBC’s Lester Holt would moderate the proposed faceoff in Grand Rapids, Michigan.

The confirmed and proposed locations are notable because they are in two battleground states.

The network did not immediately respond to The Epoch Times’ request for comment.

The debates are highly anticipated given the extraordinary turn of events this election cycle.

On June 27, Trump and President Joe Biden locked horns in a debate that CNN conducted in Atlanta. Biden’s performance in the contest elicited calls for him to exit the race.

On July 13, Trump survived an assassination attempt that killed a bystander and wounded three people, including him, at a campaign rally in Butler, Pennsylvania. A Secret Service sniper killed the suspected gunman, who was perched on a rooftop with a rifle. The investigation continues amid widespread criticism of security failures at the event.

Then, on July 21, Biden quit the race but said he would serve the remainder of his presidential term.

Biden endorsed Harris as his successor. Polls are indicating that she is outperforming Biden as a Democrat presidential contender and has gained a slight edge over Trump. The RealClear Politics average of opinion polls is showing Harris ahead of Trump by 0.5 percent. She is expected to receive another boost in the polls after the Democratic National Convention, which is set for Aug. 19 to 22 in Chicago.
Some independent voters who spoke to The Epoch Times said they like Harris partly because the 59-year-old is younger than Trump, who is 78. Others, however, expressed concern over what she has accomplished as vice president. They also say she hasn’t made her policy positions clear.
The Trump campaign has criticized Harris for not granting media interviews. He and his running mate, Sen. JD Vance (R-Ohio), had news conferences last week and highlighted the differences between their campaign and that of Harris.

Russ Jones contributed to this story.
 
Can't let the people know that Biden and Harris, the last person in the room, left countless people to suffer and die in Afghanistan. There were literally videos of people falling out of wheel wells and the mainstream media tried telling everyone those were luggage bags. These people are true disciplines of William Randolph Hearst.
 
That's why you NEVER let a (D) talk about the draft or the military.

Clinton, Obama, all their heroes dodged the draft. Fucking Biden claimed asthma.

And you can tell the faggots who don't remember just how bad the climate was after The Nam.

Just like you don't let women try to shame you about the military or going to war.

The Left loves draft dodgers on their side and thinks that you should only hate the ones who dodged Vietnam when they're on the right.

But it was The Nam, and it was a special kind of fucked.

Hearing "My grandfather went..." is enough to make me want to smack the person who then spouts off about The Nam.

Goddamn, that war fucked up Americas brain.



He claimed repeatedly to be a 'combat veteran' in interviews.

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Plus, Walz, who had his CSM rank stripped away and was retired as a Master Sergeant, did shit like this during his political career.

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When/how did he get his CSM rank stripped? I was under the impression that he didn't finish 3 years as E-9 which is why he retired as an E-8 (but I think that just means he gets paid as an E-8 though, not that he is one? idk)
 
CNN is so gay even liberals realize they're gay:
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One thing the media could realize is no one takes fat black women seriously, so you add in their catty bitching it makes you look even worse as you try and deflect Trump's success last night.

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Interesting data to keep in mind while watching this:

"The cable news audience is even older, with MSNBC's median age at 70, Fox News's at 69 and CNN's, 67. Among broadcasters, CBS's median age is 64 and ABC's is 66."

Source: https://archive.fo/FiutV
 
If Elon's claim of one billion views ends up being true, I can see people like Rogan tripping over themselves trying to get a sit down with orange man. That is some serious fucking distribution and anyone whose job is to reach masses of people would have to be retarded to not see the potential.
Honestly I’m skeptical. Adults make up 65% of the world’s 8 billion population, or around 5 billion people. So, one billion views would imply that it was watched by 1 in 5 adults in the entire world.

I suppose it’s possible that it racked up a billion views based on whatever internal metrics Twitter uses to count “views”, e.g. someone tuning out and tuning back in counts as multiple “views”. I just sincerely doubt it was watched by 1 billion individuals.
 
Honestly I’m skeptical. Adults make up 65% of the world’s 8 billion population, or around 5 billion people. So, one billion views would imply that it was watched by 1 in 5 adults in the entire world.

I suppose it’s possible that it racked up a billion views based on whatever internal metrics Twitter uses to count “views”, e.g. someone tuning out and tuning back in counts as multiple “views”. I just sincerely doubt it was watched by 1 billion individuals.
I think it was only several million views for the stream/space/whatever, it was a billion cumulative views on xeets discussing it, so ten-to-a-hundred thousand xeets with ten-to-a-hundred thousand views each, something like that
 
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