The British Summer of Discontent - The growing civil unrest of the native British population, sparked by the murder of 3 young girls in Southport

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Only recently. When I was growing up it was a normal term and not meant offensively. I still would not bat an eye to hear someone use it. Specifically an oriental would be Chinese or Japanese, maybe one of the others in that region, but not Indian or Pakistani, for certain.

It's come from the USA where people are so uncomfortable with race that they have to cycle through different terms every few years. In my life time I have watched America go through Black, Coloured, Black, African American, Black and then a catch all of People of Colour.

People of Colour however, are not, for some reason, Coloured People. The two are very different things.

A lot of our terminology issues are imported from America.
Colored people is one step above nigger for these people, horribly out of date and offensive since it was used in more polite terms instead of nigger in a mainstream way.

People of color comes from the “person first” politically correct thing that’s also popular right now.
People with autism instead of autistic people, people that are homeless instead of homeless people etc.
Those people (often not part of those groups) view that language as dehumanizing, but the ones who have energy criticizing for this language shit aren’t doing anything to help these poor oppressed groups.
If someone helps these groups, they would see that these people need actual action instead of raging on X.

It’s all virtue signaling and makes no sense, but that’s tldr how you end up with the irony of it being politically correct to say people of color instead of colored people.
 
"Oy mate you've gotta let the dear leader have a pint or we'll ave to smash ya ead in we will!"

Funniest part is apparently this guy was a labour voter.
Although this was 3 years ago, this is a potentially effective way to protest. Denying service to members to the Labour Party AND the Conservatives would be a pretty effective non-violent way of getting a point across, when what you do in your "job life" directly and negatively impacts both your "personal life" it makes you rethink what you've been doing.
 
There's a strong underlying sentiment doing the rounds among the White Working Class that it's not civically responsible to patronize Muslim owned businesses,
I think we can definitely learn from the BDS movement. I support their right to not buy anything related to Israel, I am confident in their support to my right to not buy anything related to Islam fundamentalism.

Not a Muslim but he was a Romanian immigrant. What the media described as "no fixed address".
I thought it was illegal to be homeless as an immigrant, but apparently it is not anymore! (Source)
The high court’s ruling on 14 December that the Home Office’s policy of detaining and deporting rough sleepers from the European Economic Area is unlawful is the culmination of a year of campaigning by the Public Interest Law Unit at Lambeth Law Centre and the organisation I work with, North East London Migrant Action. It feels like a depressing sign of the times that it took a court order to put a stop to such an obviously callous policy.
Additional info is that he needed a translator to answer questions such as "what's your name?"


Let's analyse this together (my current view of the BBC website):
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  • Christianity bad! Full of pedos!
  • Police saving thousands arresting a 13 years old girl (is this a new strategy to protect girls from the "grooming gangs"?)
  • Nottingham killings - let's just show the victims faces, because the perp face might be uncomfortable
  • "Man stabbed girl" - look! Hwuite man stabbing girls
For the people asking "what was the outcome of these protests?" - For one, more people now trust the MSM even less. Here we talk about "not hating journos enough", but that is not the attitude for the majority of the population. However, what the government has managed to achieve is to turn thousands and thousands of people away from trusting them and the MSM ever again.

@Byoff It is discussed in the News threads, but if searching there or searching five secs on google is too much, here is an archive of the BBC article
Ioan Pintaru, a Romanian national with no fixed address, is also charged with possession of a bladed article.

The prosecutor told the court that Mr Pintaru allegedly placed the girl into a headlock and stabbed her eight times. She was taken to hospital with serious injuries.
(Edit: oops, sorry! Tagged wrong person. Anyway, the link is there for the lazy)
 
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Black people have been present in North America for centuries, following along not that much behind the Europeans. I don't think it's a question of it being too recent, so much as it indicating a deep insecurity in much of Middle and Upper class America. Endlessly deciding that the latest term doesn't convey enough respect and seeking a new one.
It’s still relatively recent in American history, the civil rights movement that changed a lot of things for American blacks as far as rights and treatment still has people that are alive today to talk about the before and the after that saw it firsthand.

And before that, slavery was ended on an official level after the Civil War which was mid 1800’s.

America is young compared to the rest of the world, there aren’t any 600 year old buildings etc here.
 
A couple of days ago an Irish woman was walking around a proposed immmigrant plantation site to suggest having a protest there when she is confronted by hench foreign men wearing balaclavas and made to leave. What are they hiding?
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If you're a woman alone probably don't go wandering up to migrant camps. Not saying the message is wrong but this entire spat started with a migrant assaulting three vulnerable people in a place where help was too far away to stop anything serious from happening, you might not want to put yourself in that very same situation. She's not wrong but christ, I don't feel comfortable in London let alone walking into a place like that.
 
Stated as Romanian in the BBC article and some enterprising soul here on the farms found a former business registered to the guy filed at Company's House (that's Bongland's official business registrar) that listed his nationality as Romanian. Also, he's apparently speaking through an interpreter!

Haven't seen where the victims were from, only that they were holidaymakers.
Thanks, appreciated.
It is discussed in the News threads, but if searching there or searching five secs on google is too much, here is an archive of the BBC article
You replied to the wrong person, twas I who oh so rudely asked the question. Tar and feather me for my rambunctiousness, gadzooks.
 
I already explained this to you. Asian has been the name for south and central asian people (pakis, banglas, and indians) for decades. There are letters from the Ugandan resettlement in the 1970s that refer to them as Asians, when the nomenclature was already well-established. Nobody calls Arabs "Asian". Nobody in the UK calls Chinese and the like "Asian" without a clarifier, like "east asian", which was only really adopted in the 90s when Oriental and Fer Eastern became a politically incorrect.
Canadians are not Americans even though they live in the Americas.

Indians are Indians, not Asians. Brits are wrong, and this pernicious usage only serves to occlude poos behind chinks, and to obscure ethnicity in news stories about what some shitskin did. Asians don't want to be lumped in with Indians, they have nothing to gain. Indians benefit by this fraudulent association though.
 
Black people have been present in North America for centuries, following along not that much behind the Europeans. I don't think it's a question of it being too recent, so much as it indicating a deep insecurity in much of Middle and Upper class America. Endlessly deciding that the latest term doesn't convey enough respect and seeking a new one.
But with that they lost all ties to any cultures they had and their primary identification is race. Only a small number of Americans are completely descended from people alive at the time of the Revolution, the enormous waves of immigration after that really altered the culture.

Over time I think it will revert but we need to slow immigration to do so.
 
If you're a woman alone probably don't go wandering up to migrant camps. Not saying the message is wrong but this entire spat started with a migrant assaulting three vulnerable people in a place where help was too far away to stop anything serious from happening, you might not want to put yourself in that very same situation. She's not wrong but christ, I don't feel comfortable in London let alone walking into a place like that.
I have been wanting to PL on this. Kiwis, I have to admit something, I used to be a "no border" person before I started working, grew up and all of that good stuff.

I have actually volunteered in one of the illegal migrant camps. Does anyone care about a bit of story time? (AMA!)
  • Migrants were virtually all men, quite a few probably 16-17.
  • There were fights between the christian and muslim groups. The latter were a mix of Africans and Asians.
  • There were areas that were very much "no go" even for volunteers. These were Muslim controlled, and this was due to there being a lot of organised crime there
  • Women were told to cover up when distributing things to the migrants
  • The female migrants were well known to work as prostitute, with the men being pimps.
  • The younger migrants were known to disappear, with the common hypothesis that they were being trafficked.
  • It was also well known that the migrant men would steal what the women (and children) were given. It was a rule to give to women/children only things that they would use, so too small or overly feminine things
  • Everyone knew the migrants had knifes, and were not too afraid to use them.
  • The migrants trashed the area they were in and threw things away after being used. Any try to establish washing clothes, sleeping bags, etc,.. were impossible. There were bin bags for the single use cutlery and plates they were given, they were never used - the volunteers sometime would clean up.
  • While I was there, there was an African boy under 10 (no parents). There was a sort-of-rule to try to intervene if one of the older Asian men tried to get him alone and away from the other Africans. In general the Africans tried to look out for him (afaik as we knew, we weren't super confident but we were sure that he would not have been safe with the Asian muslims)
  • While there, a +50yo Asian man was video chatting with god-knows-who and at some point started shoving his phone in the face of a young female volunteer
And no, no one thought for even a second that maybe these men were not a good addition for our country/culture. I have left this behind me years ago now, so cannot tell you how many have gone silent (aka changed their mind) on the topic.
 
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Asmongold doubles down on his shit take on the UK riots.
I hate that face he does in every thumbnail. He's ugly and greasy as shit and he doesn't wash, and doesn't brush his teeth. Imagine this degenerate lecturing anyone on how the next Hitler will rise, or on anything except a children's video game from twenty years ago. He really says not to be a nationalist because if you elect someone on nationalism he'll become Hitler.
 
We have our own over here.
I mean, that's kind of the point, because we aren't using the American definitions here. In British English, "Asian" refers to people from south Asia, primarily Indian and Pakistani, but also any of the immediately surrounding regions. Nobody looks at a chinese person and thinks "that's an asian"; they think "that's a chinaman" (or maybe "that's Paul from the chippy"). Most of the statistical bullshit from the ONS separates Chinese and East Asian nationalities out from "Asian" (meaning south asia) most of the time. The most common complaint about the way stats are recorded is that "Asian" is used to hide the massive difference between Hindu and Pakistani Muslim crime rates.
 
I mean, that's kind of the point, because we aren't using the American definitions here.
Fair enough, but British pc bullshit usage bleeds over into our English.
In British English, "Asian" refers to people from south Asia, primarily Indian and Pakistani, but also any of the immediately surrounding regions. Nobody looks at a chinese person and thinks "that's an asian"; they think "that's a chinaman" (or maybe "that's Paul from the chippy").
I look at an Asian and say "oh he was some Asian guy" because I don't have a magic window into what specific Asian country they come from.
Most of the statistical bullshit from the ONS separates Chinese and East Asian nationalities out from "Asian" (meaning south asia) most of the time.
India is a subcontinent and a fifth the world's population. It should have its own word.
The most common complaint about the way stats are recorded is that "Asian" is used to hide the massive difference between Hindu and Pakistani Muslim crime rates.
Yeah I agree, that's a major problem too.
 
I mean, that's kind of the point, because we aren't using the American definitions here. In British English, "Asian" refers to people from south Asia, primarily Indian and Pakistani, but also any of the immediately surrounding regions. Nobody looks at a chinese person and thinks "that's an asian"; they think "that's a chinaman" (or maybe "that's Paul from the chippy"). Most of the statistical bullshit from the ONS separates Chinese and East Asian nationalities out from "Asian" (meaning south asia) most of the time. The most common complaint about the way stats are recorded is that "Asian" is used to hide the massive difference between Hindu and Pakistani Muslim crime rates.
It always felt to me like a "technically" explanation. British culture is so influenced by American culture that no way that the average Brit hears Asians and immediately thinks brown people. Though on the other hand it's been so long they probably do.
 
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