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"Emergency motorcycle" can be quite useful, especially if off-roading. Anyone seriously offroad should know how to ride a motorcycle and be equipped to use one to reach civilization.

And emergency services ON motorcycles could have a supplemental use; especially since they could likely get to the scene of an incident a bit faster. But it would be supplemental.
There are uses for many not a standard ambulance emergency vehicles. There are boats, bikes, motorbikes, helicopters, people on foot and many more. These exist because they are able to get places an ambulance can't or are much faster and/or cheaper than a full ambulance and better than nothing. Still these are all supplementary to ambulances, as car supremacy is just that unbeatable.
 
Motorcycle schmotorcycle. Real urban paradise would have firemen on bikes!

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Sure they’re from over a hundred years ago but technology is a sin!
 
Modern ambulances are designed so they can start treating people as soon as they get inside, trying to stabilize the patient's injuries, etc. In third-world countries, they don't have that, so an ambulance is basically "get this person down to the hospital AS FAST AS YOU CAN".

I can't imagine ANY use what an "emergency motorcycle" would do that has any use at all.
Not sure about over there, but here we have a class of ambo's call MICA's (Mobile Intensive Care Ambulances) who are Solo/Duo in smaller SUV's(so they can jump kerbs and gutters if they need to) the purpose being they are the rapid on-site senior Ambo to stabilise and triage while the full size Ambulance is on it's way, which usually has capable but not as highly skilled Ambo's in it for transport care, or call for the Airwing if they need it, which from personal experience when an emergency is happening to a loved one it's a godsend when you see a MICA unit scream to a halt out front(ambo was a great guy and pulled some strings to get my relative in to a more suitable hospital than the closest, bastard wouldn't let me make him a coffee tho xD ).

I'd imagine a Motorbike Ambo would be the same sort of deal where they are senior and there to keep someone alive till the equipment arrives, which sounds like could be handled by Firey's over in the states, and here of the 8 classes of response Ambo's one is Bicycle Ambo's who are for responding at large public crowd events, so I could def see them being useful.

That being said aside from the ladder trucks the Fire Engines he shows don't look bigger if at all than the Pumpers and Tankers around here, and during fire season they are deployed around the state so have to be equipped for bushfires as well as regular fire/emergency response, I just don't get his bitching, aside from him being a hypocritical piece of shit.

I did find it interesting when a mate in Vermont pointed out all their trucks were 3rd hand from NY because that's all the town could afford, which is a pity considering even the most beat up trucks at volunteer stations here seemed to be newer and in better condition than they seemed to have, maybe if the local bugman cities supported them more they could have more modern decent trucks and not have to live with old ladder trucks as that was all they could afford...

Plus I see pics of that kei firetruck in the states all the time, guy is proud at showing it around and all the firey's in the pics seem to love it, he's not pretending it could do the job tho....
 
the most beat up trucks at volunteer stations here seemed to be newer and in better condition than they seemed to have
There is a really weird “cliff” when transitioning from volunteer to staffed fire department as a city grows - a single fireman costs somewhere between one fire truck every four years to one firetruck a year (depending on pay, benefits, and size of the fire truck). This means that a volunteer station often has better and newer equipment because all of the money goes to it (and fundraisers for new fire trucks go over quite well, too). But as they transition to fully staffed most money goes to salaries and trucks get put to the side.

The other secret is that commercial equipment costs as much to run as to buy so there’s often not a refresh budget available until something breaks really hard (and that can be almost never because everything is repairable).

Anyway I’m sure shitting on fire departments goes over well in the densest city in the USA

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They're really living up to the US stereotype of getting the biggest and most overpowered truck you can get just for that one time you might actually need it
Does this idiot not understand that it's better to have and not need rather than need and not have? Sure, that overspecced pump might not be necessary 90% of the time, but there's 10% of the time when it is necessary, and now you're sat there with your limp hose in your hand while you watch people burn to death.
 
Does this idiot not understand that it's better to have and not need rather than need and not have? Sure, that overspecced pump might not be necessary 90% of the time, but there's 10% of the time when it is necessary, and now you're sat there with your limp hose in your hand while you watch people burn to death.
You ever seen a memorial emergency vehicle? In small towns you sometimes have a community fundraiser for a vehicle that would have saved someone, donated in their honor. Shit can hit you hard.
 
Did he do any research? Or did he find articles like this and dismiss them because they were written by Big Fire Truck?
Here's what Jason did, and what he does in most if not all of his videos: he reached a conclusion first, then did "research" aka finding things that support his pre-determined conclusion, ignoring everything that didn't. Then he made the video.
 
Some of the biggest assholes on the planet (urbanism cyclists) go up against the one public service they everyone loves (people hate cops but Firefighters and EMS have approval ratings multiples of times higher than Congress / other politicians)

Gee I wonder who will the win the public perception debate?
 
How many vehicles does a typical american fire brigade employ on a regular fire suppression task, and how are they organised?
Looks like those massive American fire engines/ladder trucks carry all the personell and equipment necessary. Here in Germany they usually move out in a brigade of about four vehicles, very militaristic in organisation (they even call the fire suppression "Löschangriff", "extinguishing attack"). The vehicles might be smaller, but they have more of them on scene, maybe?
 
How many vehicles does a typical american fire brigade employ on a regular fire suppression task, and how are they organised?
It entirely depends on the area, the event, and the available machines.

The standard American doctrine (I believe) is to over-respond and then redeploy if needed. So if there's a fire call, they send "everything" from the local station, and then if only a few trucks are needed the rest return (or divert to another call).

If it's medical, they usually send one. But again, this is entirely dependent on the local setup, how much they're covering, and what they can cover (and what further stations can cover them).

See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiple-alarm_fire (a) for more details on some common practices. It's not uncommon at all for multiple stations to respond to an actual fire (which are pretty rare, all things considered, maybe 20% of all calls?) and then disperse once it's under control. Better to be there and not needed than needed and not there - it's not like the firemen have much to do besides polish the pole when they're not responding to a call.

The USA also sees wildfires that would blow European minds into the fucking stratosphere - the August Complex Fire (a) burned an area the size of South Ossetia - to which 2,900 firefighters responded. And that was a remote location! The 2007 fires displaced a million people and had 6,000 firefighters, not including 3,000 prisoners and military response. The Thomas Fire (a) had 8,500 firefighters deployed (largest in history for CA).

Europeans and New Yorkers can't even comprehend. When that many firefighters are deployed, they're pulling in equipment from other states and even other countries.

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(That's an area the size of fucking Kazakstan or 1/10 the entire size of Europe)
 
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I think the advantage of the imperial system (US style) is that so many quantities are useful as “one” - one gallon, one pint, one yard, one foot, one mile.

Too many of the autistic metric units while being multiples of ten are useless at human scale without being multiples. And nobody uses decimeter and such things anyway.
 
I could say the same thing about metric units. 1 liter, 1 meter etc. It boils down to what we're used to using- because it will, obviously, be more intuitive
I like the metric system for cooking where precise measuremens and conversations are common, but not much else due to bias. Also going 100 kilometers an hour isn't as impressive as going 100 miles an hour. However, the one thing that Americans are objectively correct in using is Fahrenheit, it is perfect.
  • The range 0 to 100 reasonably reflects the range humans can live in (anything below 30 or above 80 is when risk of hypothermia/heatstroke get serious)
  • Because of that range it makes it easy and intuitive to appropriately prepare for the day.
  • The measurements of F is half the size of C and therefore more accurate and easier to get the AC to the perfect temperature.
Fuck Celsius
 
Also, the advantage metric has for constant-free conversions isn't inherit to the system but rather due to the fact that it was designed relatively recently. That doesn't hold true for newer conversions though and constants are still frequently required. Constants are also rarely used in daily life for either system. No one really cares how many yards are in a mile (or meters in a kilometer). The common way American high-school chemistry teachers try to make students think metric is cool is to point out that 1 L of water weighs ~1 kg. The students are wowed by this because they don't know that 1 pt of water also weighs ~1 lb, and the reason why they don't know that is because most people don't weigh liquids by volume.
 
rather interesting video by Chuck subsequently Sneed, basically accuses others of Cherry Picking when he himself is ignoring the central argument of these people that Tokyo has been growing pretty massively yet there's been no major increase in housing prices, very disingenuous, and all the comments are calling him out.
 
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rather interesting video by Chuck antecedently Sneed, basically accuses others of Cherry Picking when he himself is ignoring the central argument of these people that Tokyo has been growing pretty massively yet there's been no major increase in housing prices, very disingenuous, and all the comments are calling him out.
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