Should Men Get Married?

[rebel]

Is there any legit reason for a man to get married today? I don't mean this to sound like an edgelord or Andrew Tate, but marriage has basically all downsides for men. Give a woman 50 percent or more of your income only to be stuck with her. If she decides to divorce you lose all your money if you had kids she gets them then they are screwed up all of this or

Stay single, date, but be a bachelor. No stress, no child support. She does not steal your money. You get to be alone. No kids to stress about taking care of. No bills. No worrying about cheating. No fights. If you don't love her, forget her freedom to have all your toys, including your cars and more. Tom Leykis makes a great case for men not to get married.

TLDR marriage Is hell change my mind

 

[XL xQgg?QcQCaTYDMjqoDnYpG]

Marriage in its current form is essentially a contract with the government
I hope nobody requires a lengthy explanation as to why this is a very bad idea

 

[Cardinal Cardinal]

You didn't trust the women to answer this?
Marriage should be the result of a good relationship, not the goal.
You seem to already have your mind made up so I'd say no for you unless you have an epiphany.

 

[Brenda Holiday]

Marriage used to have a reason to be bias towards women, but now with women working just as much as men it has absolutely no reason to be. I tell people get married in the eyes of the lord not the law. Or whats wrong with a prenup? Do courts do screwy stuff with that too?
Not getting married is fine. Throwing off women completely is cucked.

 

[Catgirl Tyranid]

Ignore society, get married in the biblical sense: A man and woman fully dedicating themselves to each other. Not contractual, not give and take, just give and give. It is not a decision to make lightly, really get to know someone before you marry them, and remember that love is a decision you make every single day not just an emotion you feel.

Getting married was by far the best thing that has ever happened to me except for when my children were born. Dating fucking sucks, sex is a perk of marriage, not its point, and kids are a blessing you should want to have.

Quit trying to black pill the world into playing it safe and go take risks like a Man should or you'll end up a miserable, bitter wreck in your old age.

 

[KittyGremlin]

Quit trying to black pill the world into playing it safe and go take risks like a Man should or you'll end up a miserable, bitter wreck in your old age.

Based take

 

[JamusActimus]

If you live long enough with someone the judge can consider you were married even if you did not marry that person. (In some countries)

 

[Lidl Drip]

So true king, you should stay single and leave women alone. Don't let any money and semen stealing whores ruin your quality goon&vidya time. You should buy a motorcycle with all that money you are saving from not getting divorce-raped.

 

[Karen of Human Resources]

It's too broad to ask. Even if we're just talking about the Western World, marriage encompasses a lot of shit.

If you're in the UK, you only have guranteed rights over your child if you married their mother. You of course, still have to pay for it even if you didn't..

If you're in France, married couples get a tax allowance boosted by how many children they have.

As much as it shouldn't and in some states it is illegal to discriminate on this, marriage is something employers look for. We hate married women, because they'll get pregnant, but married men who aren't as likely or able to move around are a good sign for a long term investment. I've worked for companies that also refuse to hire men who aren't married over 30-35 because they take it they're unstable or a bit too wild.

I've purposefully avoided talking about intimacy up to this point, being a possessor of a front hole or whatever Im supposed to call myself now. I see plenty of memes on this site about career women turning into cat ladies with regret.

Men do that too. I've met very financially successful men, and less successful but formerly very attractive men who never settled down and indulged in every excess they could. Some of them are happy, some are not.

Marriage is a keystone of a type of community building. You can get fulfilment in other types, convents for instance, but some people are going to want to build their own and be sad if they don't. If both take the contract seriously, it still makes that easier.

 

[Zashaiba]

Marriage is based, but I make very little money, have no education and am decidedly not attractive. If I find a woman of my race who can accept me despite all this I would marry her and have kids. Simple as.

 

[Party Hat Wurmple]

Or whats wrong with a prenup? Do courts do screwy stuff with that too?

Yes they do. Judges throw out prenups all the time. If I've been married for 15 years, the judge is throwing out my prenup unless it's for something very specific or both parties ask the judge not to. All it takes is for her to say "Well I felt like if I didn't sign it, he wouldn't marry me" and the judge will wipe his ass with it.

Ignore society, get married in the biblical sense: A man and woman fully dedicating themselves to each other. Not contractual, not give and take, just give and give. It is not a decision to make lightly, really get to know someone before you marry them, and remember that love is a decision you make every single day not just an emotion you feel

You can't. Many states have common law and will still fuck you.

Quit trying to black pill the world into playing it safe and go take risks like a Man should or you'll end up a miserable, bitter wreck in your old age.

It's not a black pill to say modern American women are fucking terrible life partners. They're just awful and have been abusing Alpha Fux Beta Bux for almost a century now.

 

[Spiny Rumples]

Gonna dump some thoughts I've had recently.

I'll start with responding to the title. I know a number of unmarried people over in (European country). They have kids with their boyfriends/girlfriends. They're poor but have managed to get by, One of them even has to fight an ex gf for custody of his child.
The only people I know who are getting married are people who have been together for a decade or so and want to celebrate it. It's too expensive to consider when compared to student loans, buying a house, buying a car, child care, medical troubles, etc.

Here is my response to the text. To answer the concerns you listed... I suspect these would be assuaged by finding someone who you love, find attractive, considerable reliable, and TRUST.
Over the past few years, I have become more confident and forward. A lot of women who reciprocated my advances turned out to already have boyfriends. That makes me doubt the loyalty of my generation's women, but maybe I am just in a cursed social bubble. I bet there are plenty of trustworthy women who I just don't cross paths with. Having someone to love and trust and hold sounds wonderful. I mean, it sounds a lot like a ride or die best friend, and I think everyone needs those kinda bonds.

 

[3MW0J8]

The (predictable) female seething in this thread is hilarious. Of course men shouldn't get married. Overall, marriage benefits women far more than it benefits men.

 

[Neo-Nazi Rich Evans]

Stay single, date, but be a bachelor. No stress,

for not stress, have you seen the modern dating scene, it can be pretty stressful. unless you are some chad who can get women with no effort or limit yourself to drunk fat chicks, there is stress.

it is also pretty stressful when you feel very lonely and dont have anyone. if you are married that is some stress you dont have to worry about.

no child support.

so stay single but date to avoid child support? nah man, if you have a child while single she will go after you for child support. that isnt an out.
also, if you stay married to her, you also dont have child support payments. so get married but dont get divorced and dont cheat/dont make her feel neglected so that she doesnt divorce you.

She does not steal your money.

most single guys spend plenty of money trying to impress women. do you really think those expensive cars you mentioned in OP have zero to do with women? if it werent for trying to impress women most guys would be happy to drive a beat up 1992 corolla or busted up pick up truck.

You get to be alone.

but being alone all the time sucks. and there are times when, in marriage, you need alone time, but unless she is clingy, which is not a healthy relationship, you can get that.

No kids to stress about taking care of.

this is always such a childish thing to hear. i dont want kids, i want to play video games and spend my money on toys. grow up and be a man. mature adults enjoy having and taking care of their kids. only guys stuck in the mentality of a 16 year old thinks it is better to die of old age childless playing call of duty or whatever.

No bills.

no bills? im single and i have bills. where is this idea being single without kids means no bills?



in short, while there are problems with women and modern marriages, OP is just repeating the same nonsense every MGTOW faggot spews.

 

[XL xQgg?QcQCaTYDMjqoDnYpG]

grow up and be a man.

 

[Reverend]

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get a pre-nup, problem solved.
get married, have kids, go punch a troon that tries to groom your kids.

 

[Hey Johnny Bravo]

Is there any legit reason for a man to get married today?

Imagine your best buddy. Now imagine being with that best buddy all the time, there to help each other through the hard times and enjoy the good times. Imagine that buddy with boobs, a vagina, and an excitement to have sex with you. It's kind of a no-brainer. My wife is my best friend and it's fun being married.

There is a risk to getting married, but it's overblown. Most guys who get destroyed by marriages are either scumbags who treated their wives like dogwater, or guys who picked the first broad who gave them pussy. If you know what you want from life and from your partner, marriage is the best thing ever.

Some people aren't built for this. I know guys who are lifelong bachelors and that's what they like. They have no regrets. However, don't let socially inept, terminally online morons dissuade you from making a commitment.

Also, if you can't keep it in your pants, that's a very good sign that you shouldn't get married and remain a bachelor.

 

[Catgirl Tyranid]

You can't. Many states have common law and will still fuck you.

You're missing my point when I say the Biblical version of marriage. The popular definition of marriage is "Love at first sight, whoopidy frickidy dee, don't you just love me!" lustful contract masquerading as what marriage actually is, a life partnership built on trust held to account by a higher power that government wishes it was.

It's not a black pill to say modern American women are fucking terrible life partners. They're just awful and have been abusing Alpha Fux Beta Bux for almost a century now.

That's the definition of a black pill. You're shown the worst humanity has to offer on a daily basis and are accepting that as reality even though engagement inevitably skews eyeballs toward novel situations. Most girls aren't only fans thots. But most girls also aren't Party Hat Wurmple compatible. So your choice is to get over your hang ups and try until to you find someone worth sticking around who feels the same way and WORK at that relationship or wallow in this woe-is-me attitude.

The longer you wallow, the more likely you're going to end up miserable and alone wishing you had kids who would call you up and ask you for help.

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Yes. Get over yourself, realize that you're young and retarded, start acting like the man you want to be, and don't give up.

 

[Tad Loaf]

Even ignoring the gender wars shit regarding marriage, is there any reason to do it period? For either side? I mean aside from maybe some tax benefits, divorces are so common and flippant in the modern day the oath really doesn't mean much, it was a bigger deal back in the day cause divorce was so uncommon so it held some weight, but now? Just save yourself the paperwork and pretend you got married.

 

[Hey Johnny Bravo]

Even ignoring the gender wars shit regarding marriage, is there any reason to do it period? For either side?

The tax benefits are nothing to sniff your nose at. They are pretty significant over time.