The British Summer of Discontent - The growing civil unrest of the native British population, sparked by the murder of 3 young girls in Southport

[Londo]

@Bog-standard Poster It isn't a difficult process, per se, it's just super long and invasive. It's also really fun that I have no option or choice over allowing the police in to my property at any time to make inspections.

 

[teriyakiburns]

This is wrong. All replica firearms are banned

The entire Airsoft community is in trouble, then. I'm sitting with an illegal toy right now.

 

[femboy fart huffer]

This is wrong. All replica firearms are banned,

Here's a store selling replica firearms for reenactment people. https://www.southernswords.co.uk/replica-firearms.html
And here's a store selling replica firearms for airsoft people. https://www.patrolbase.co.uk/airsoft

Both are based in England and ship to England, if RIFs were illegal then these stores wouldn't exist. And things like the ukara (a registry specifically to allow people to buy an RIF from a commercial entity) would not exist in this country. Feel free to link wherever you're getting this from because it's just not true.

 

[Morethanabitfoolish]

This is wrong. All replica firearms are banned, I even had mine threated to be destroyed when I was trying to sell it back to the store I bought it from.

Feel free to link wherever you're getting this from because it's just not true.

You're both arguing understandable points and our laws are stupid.

TLDR it's the usual thing. If people bother to enforce the rules almost everyone is fucked. Usually they do not.

The whole "it's fine for re-enactment" is wrong. If it looks realistic the police can roll up, seize it all and shove you in prison. If they come in full bore and you and your fellow LARPers make the terrible error of pointing the guns at them enjoy your bullet holes and unless your lawyers are very good non consequences for the police. I got into a long legal argument with people running a class about making costume for such events when I pointed to the specific law that said "if realistic you be fucked sunshine."

 

[Whoopsie Daisy]

The entire Airsoft community is in trouble, then. I'm sitting with an illegal toy right now.

From what i've been told by gun stores,, if it looks like a firearm and isn't sprayed bright orange, then it's illegal. I had loads of replicas and a few real guns with the rifle/barrel drilled and was told by a proper gun shop they were all illegal. The law changed sometime in the early 2000s.

Here's a store selling replica firearms for reenactment people. https://www.southernswords.co.uk/replica-firearms.html
And here's a store selling replica firearms for airsoft people. https://www.patrolbase.co.uk/airsoft

Both are based in England and ship to England, if RIFs were illegal then these stores wouldn't exist. And things like the ukara (a registry specifically to allow people to buy an RIF from a commercial entity) would not exist in this country. Feel free to link wherever you're getting this from because it's just not true.

I bought a Machete from an online store. A proper one as well, it's served me well in the garden for hacking down trees and bushes. It's not legal to own though.

Look at the fella who had that mini sword replica from a game. Got banged up for an offensive weapon.

 

[Badungus Kabungus]

What about a spear and shield? Or a sharpened broomstick and a bin lid?

 

[teriyakiburns]

From what i've been told by gun stores,, if it looks like a firearm and isn't sprayed bright orange, then it's illegal.

I'm afraid you've been told wrong. I can go and buy a fully realistic airsoft replica gun from a shop on the high street, as long as I have proof of my UKARA defence. Without that, I have to get the gun two-toned - painted so that enough of it is a bright colour to be visible. The law says you can get a realistic replica if you have a sufficient defence, which does technically cover LARP and cosplay, but good luck finding a venue that would allow it.

 

[3deadniggers]

If walking by an anti-government protest is illegal you can sure as fuck expect any sort of weapon is illegal. Pretend or not they will fuck you for it some way.

 

[femboy fart huffer]

From what i've been told by gun stores,, if it looks like a firearm and isn't sprayed bright orange, then it's illegal.

Those two tone neon ones are for people that don't have a ukara. A ukara is specifically so you can buy unsprayed airsoft guns. They're telling you it's illegal because you don't have a ukara, thus it is illegal for you to buy one.

The law changed sometime in the early 2000s.

The law I think you're talking about was for firearms, not RIFs. I got my ukara after 2010 and was still able to buy an RIF.

It's not legal to own though.

It is legal to own a machete as long as you have a reason.

it's served me well in the garden for hacking down trees and bushes.

this is your reason to own a machete which makes it legal. It is illegal to carry one in public, and there's some retarded fuckery about using it for self defence. But it is not illegal for you to own as a blanket statement. The only blades that are blanket banned in this country are things that are easily concealable and quickly deployed (and some other bullshit that facebook mum groups bitched about).

I can go into a group for my local airsoft site and find probably 100 people that own a RIF, I know one of them works for the council and I'm fairly sure one is a policeman. The airsoft site is registered with the council too. If RIFs were illegal to own then the site would have been shut down years ago and why haven't we all been arrested?

Look at the fella who had that mini sword replica from a game. Got banged up for an offensive weapon.

He was not arrested for the owning it. He was arrested for brandishing it in public. Those are two different things. You can own a kitchen knife, you cannot walk around with it in public like that man did.

 

[Londo]

DISGRACEFUL

 

[Necrosan]

DISGRACEFUL

If only they had a country they could congregate in to celebrate their independency.

 

[Jaimas]

The entire Airsoft community is in trouble, then. I'm sitting with an illegal toy right now.

Overpressure your weapons
Hot-load peppercorns
become ungovernable

 

[Bilbo Boglims]

I don't have much to add to this as an American but since airsoft got brought up its worth mentioning that the early generation (gens 1-4 iirc) Yunker & Cybergun Ak47 airsoft/bbguns were sold in the UK, they were built using Norinco Type 56 receivers that were lightly modified to be a bbgun. They even have the chinese markings of what factory they were made at still on them, cybergun did damn near nothing to convert them. They were so easy to restore to original function that they were classed as machineguns in the US and banned from being imported. I have seen Bongs finding them at flea markets over there and my jealosy knows no bounds.

 

[3deadniggers]

I'm a little confused. Is it still legal to be against little girls having their clits cut off and vagina sewn shut? I'm concerned rejecting genital mutilation is anti-African and Muslim culture and it might be a hate crime.

 

[femboy fart huffer]

DISGRACEFUL

Makes sense why politicians and the bbc would want to defend these people. It's hard to convince the general public to lower the age of consent any further for the paedophiles in power but if you push pakistani identity as a core part of england then lowering the age of consent is just to avoid cultural friction that's all.

 

[Kalamazoo 2 Timbuktu]

It seems like people are getting more and more upset.

“I’ll say whatever the fuck I want, wherever I want. I don’t care if I go to prison for years, I’m sick of it”

“Fuck the Bobbies, pigs, scum worthless”

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EdCK-Xa1rWI

 

[libRT]

It is legal to own a machete as long as you have a reason.

You don't need a reason to own one, but you need a reason if you're stopped while carrying it in public (also must be concealed/sheathed, can't have it out and wiggling it about). Same with bows/crossbows, except you don't need a reason but they have to be in a case or w/e in public

I'm a little confused. Is it still legal to be against little girls having their clits cut off and vagina sewn shut? I'm concerned rejecting genital mutilation is anti-African and Muslim culture and it might be a hate crime.

No, I think it was under Theresa May (edit: second thought not sure, but I think it was about 10 years ago) there was a push to get it banned and I think it did, but I heard there are places which the police basically don't go, so I think pretty much anything goes there

 

[Atypical Dog]

Nowhere that has blasphemy laws is a good place to live. As evidenced by half their populations leaving to come and live in secular states like Britain. Once you start turning into a place with blasphemy laws you’re on a speedrun to basket case.

I would have negative blasphemy laws. The official term should always be the most insulting term available. Official documents will describe races in terms of Crackers, Niggers, Spics (for all Latin Americans), Yellows (including chinks, gooks, and nips), and so on. Australians are European and Austrians are from Down Under.

I walked into town a few months back to ask about air rifles because I want to get into rabbiting/ratting. I could buy a .22 rifle there and then, and I was tempted because some were sweet. The shop even had a cage in the back where he housed other people's rifles, shotguns and pistols and told me that owning a real rifle, shotgun and pistol isn't as hard as one may think. If you're ex-forces, you're nailed on to be allowed one. If you're a farmer or own private land, owning a shotty or rifle is legal as long as the coppers know about it.

Guess we're all farming then. When they ask what kind, the answer is long pork.

 

[Geoff Capes Vapes Apes]

From what i've been told by gun stores,, if it looks like a firearm and isn't sprayed bright orange, then it's illegal. I had loads of replicas and a few real guns with the rifle/barrel drilled and was told by a proper gun shop they were all illegal. The law changed sometime in the early 2000s.

I bought a Machete from an online store. A proper one as well, it's served me well in the garden for hacking down trees and bushes. It's not legal to own though.

Look at the fella who had that mini sword replica from a game. Got banged up for an offensive weapon.

The only people more ignorant about our gun laws than journos are the mouth-breathers behind the counter of the typical gun shop, if I had a quid for every time I heard an employee at an RFD talking shite I could afford to buy all the ammo I'm permitted to hold on my ticket.

When the Violent Crime Reduction Act was brought in in 2006, the act introduced "specific defences" to the charge of manufacture, import or sale of RIFs (note that possession was and remains completely legal). These specific defences in the original text of the act include re-enactment, theatre etc. but the act also provides for the government to introduce additional defences by regulation. In this case, the 2007 regulations added "permitted activities". “Permitted activities” means the acting out of military or law enforcement scenarios for the purposes of recreation i.e. the manufacture, import or sale of RIFs for airsoft skirmishing is permitted and seeing a valid UKARA gives the retailer a defence against the charge of sale of RIFS under that specific defence.

To reiterate the above, possession of a Realistic Imitation Firearm is completely legal. Possession of one with intent to cause fear of violence is an offence under section 16A of the Firearms Act 1968.

WRT deactivated guns, it depends how poorly/long ago the deactivation was done. If it has a deactivation stamp from the proofhouse on the gun somewhere you're golden for posession, however sale of a deactivated gun that isn't deactivated to the current standards is not allowed. Selling guns deactivated to the current standard doesn't fall under the VCRA as they are firearms (albeit deactivated) and as such cannot be "imitation firearms".

Realistic looking air pistols are completely fine because they are under law firearms and as such cannot be "imitation firearms"

The items listed at Southern Swords above are permitted under the VCRA as "the appearance of which would tend to identify it as having a design and mechanism of a sort first dating from before the year 1870."

Source: was an airsofter in the early 2000s, now own and shoot real guns

 

[D.A. d. nial]

I remember the Canadian Trucker Protests and how that just kind of faded into nothing with barely a whimper. This will be the same. It'll all die down and everyone will move on and otherwise be memory-holed. The System does not allow martyrs for the enemy. The System does not allow completed narratives for the enemy. George Floyd had an Inciting Incident (Banana), Rising Action (Riots), Climax (CHAZ/Burning down the 3rd Precinct), Falling Action(Rest of 2020), Conclusion (Trial of Derek Chauvin). Both the Truckers and Brits have Inciting Incodents, Rising Action but there will be no climax. No peak. No wind-down, and certainly no resolution.

Ever since La Palma '21 I keep telling myself never again, no more, it's bad for you. But i'm just a slutton for happenings. I deserve my abuse.

~ The Rhode Island District Attorney's Office