The British Summer of Discontent - The growing civil unrest of the native British population, sparked by the murder of 3 young girls in Southport

[FinnSven]

We should have a points based system for legal immigration with a very low cap. If Dave from Essex married an Aussie and wants to bring her over (goodness knows why, but whatever) then that’s sort of thing. Low numbers. Culturally similar societies only.
Massive re migration is needed. Our infrastructure cannot cope with the numbers we have now.

A few years ago I was running the special Olympics, arguing on facebook, with some annoying privileged prick from a third world nation.

His bulletproof solution to the west claiming problems with immigration was just let everyone who wanted to come here have a job which no one else would do, then problem solved.

He horribly failed to grasp that the west doesn’t have limitless employment, to the point that street sweeping, bog cleaning and other traditionally perceived as shit jobs are not crying out for people to do them.

Nor that many of the people who come here thinking they can get work like that find they need at least some recognized qualifications or skills, such as a decent understanding of the local language at a minimum.

And of course, then there is the issue of housing, further infrastructure, the authorities having to deal with a massive sudden increase in population, then further supporting industries like, supermarkets able to cope with an increase in demand, entertainment, and other things these people will now expect as part of the coveted western standard of living.

This fucker had also claimed in seriousness that Macdonald’s staff would never let a backpacker go hungry.
It was kind of insulting that someone from the third world was so sheltered and privileged, with an insane sense of life in the west.

 

[>IMPLYING]

Been awhile since I've logged back on, Starmtroopers cant stop me from shitposting though. I wanted to gage opinions on the Dr David Betz "civil war" talks. Whole thing feels very Astroturfed to me, it doesn't feel remotely organic and yet its taken root within the public consciousness quite quickly. You overhear the average joe bloggs talking about it in hushed tones now, the only thing I can remotely explain this phenomena as is the government and intelligence services trying to manufacture consent for further legislation to stifle the few freedoms we have. Everyday now people can sense that something is going to kick off, everyday for the past week its been reported that a child has been sexually assaulted by one of these filthy subhumans washing up. Remigration is mercy at this point.

I think the establishment is just very overwhelmed at this juncture. They have to fight a million PR-fires but are only capable of doing one at a time. Conservatives had stretches where they only received loud, singular criticisms on single major issues they could batten down the hatches on, and typically that issue overshadowed everything else. 2010-2014 was austerity, which immediately distracted from the platform the Tories campaigned on - reducing the 300k a year figure that got that high under Labour. 2015-2019 focusing purely on Brexit. 2020-2024, was Covid, its shelf-life extended due to "Partygate". There was some noise about trannies leading up the Cass Review, but I think pre-Southport the "cost of living crisis" was what dominated things. Whilst low turnout was obviously a symptom of rising apathy with the system — the Rwanda scheme, widespread info of the boats and hotels, and massive immigration numbers, fed into this apathy, and also revealed the Tories didn't do a damn thing about lowering the numbers to normies — Labour's whole schtick is free shit and spending our money to a detrimental degree (like the Tories started doing) and nice platitudes about "helping people", which I suppose people want to hear.

But then it was just one thing after another:
August - Southport stabbings (Major catalyst)
September - Proposed cutting of Winter Fuel payments + plans to overhaul benefit system
January - OSA is officially switched on + Baroness Casey's inquiry into the rape gangs is launched (forced to do due to "protecting girls" kayfabe as a result of Southport stabbings + Crossbow killer)
May - local elections, Reform perform worryingly well & Labour MPs openly rebel against voting on welfare bill

Come June-July, it's like all of these things created a perfect shitstorm for Labour.
1. U-turn on Winter Fuel Payments, but this concession doesn't stop government whip from resigning, and also means Labour took a probably irreversible blow to the pensioner and scrounger vote for no reason. 9th of July vote still has 47 Labour MPs rebel despite amending it. Thereafter Starmer suspends members for participating in said rebellion, perhaps entrenching further discontent for him within.

2. Reform starts (and continues to the present) topping the polls regardless of pollster, forcing Labour to implement rhetoric that's at odds with its voter base to try and stop bleeding voters. Remember, when Starmer says we are "stopping illegal immigration", the lefties hear, "we're going to let poor helpless people stranded in Calais just die?!?" and some of them sincerely believe that. This is also with Sarah Pochin (Reform MP) asking for Starmer to ban the burkha during PMQs. Reform support could = anti-Muslim sentiment, which carries "worrying" implications for them, and is basically the one thing they can't directly address, especially not when...

3. Zarah Sultana + Corbyn start a political party. It may be both popular with Muslims (it'll be their party in all but name, especially if it keeps the colours of the Independent Alliance (Palestine). The fact it'll possibly attract both the youth and Muslim vote could help Labour lose seats in the cities, so they can't risk ostracising this semi-reliable support base at such a fragile point in time...

4. Voting age is lowered to 16, which is also in conjunction with the OSA forcing age-implementation checks which ban anyone under the age of 18 from using certain sites, services, and from viewing particular content, and then all the counter-criticism is directed at older people with no regard for the fact younger people will be pissed about this (How many under the age of 20 would know who Jimmie Saville is?), meaning the millions of new potential voters had their problem ignored by the government and will likely carry the sentiment to the ballot box.

5. Baroness Casey's audit comes out, revealing the government both lied about the ethnicity of rapists but intentionally chose not to report info because it'd make the rapists look bad, and also revealed the claim that "whites rape more than non-whites" was a lie of omission rather than hard fact. Some MPs in the Labour government were outright complicit, giving further reason to hate the hordes we're bringing in. This is also with a new headline every couple weeks about some snafu relating to a government decision on immigration (1 in, 1 out; "We were paying the French to stop the boats?!"; Afghani smuggling under Tories) and one of the hotel migrants committing a rape, attempting a rape, or attempting a kidnapping in order to do a rape, leading to protests and marches were seeing now.

There's stuff I've left off or forgotten about, but Labour have a lot of fires and they can't put any of them out without fucking themselves in one way or another. I think the protests might ease off after Summer as it won't be warm but the sentiment is still there and I genuinely don't see how you can make it go away at this point. Conservatives got away with their bullshit on immigration for 14 years but we're in a completely different game now since the biggest social media platform on Earth - Twitter - can't censor this shit even if they tried - there's just too much of it. Same with Tiktok.

TLDR: In contrast, I think the series of fuck-ups and justifiable public reaction to said fuck-ups make it feel very organic. It's understandable to be nihilistic considering the circumstances but I think a lot of people have been unhappy with the current state of affairs for so long they can't really imagine things changing, so when the public is reacting the way you want them too it can feel surreal.

 

[Amin Yasister]

We should have a points based system for legal immigration with a very low cap.

I tried to move to two other countries a number of years ago. Refused because my trade did not score enough points to allow me to move.

 

[greatUncleShitHeel]

American here, does remigration mean deporting the immigrants?

You're indian. You gave that away in the india menace thread. You're not American, so stop larping.

Whole thing feels very Astroturfed to me, it doesn't feel remotely organic and yet its taken root within the public consciousness quite quickly. You overhear the average joe bloggs talking about it in hushed tones now, the only thing I can remotely explain this phenomena as is the government and intelligence services trying to manufacture consent for further legislation to stifle the few freedoms we have.

I'm inclined to agree with @>IMPLYING - I think enough is imploding over there that they're struggling to run damage control on it all at once and their actual attempts at damage control appear to only be smearing shit up the walls.

 

[Green_Pine_Tree]

You are a fucking idiot.

That poster is either living in India or has managed to slither into some Western nation.

 

[LeChampion1992]

Been awhile since I've logged back on, Starmtroopers cant stop me from shitposting though. I wanted to gage opinions on the Dr David Betz "civil war" talks. Whole thing feels very Astroturfed to me, it doesn't feel remotely organic and yet its taken root within the public consciousness quite quickly. You overhear the average joe bloggs talking about it in hushed tones now, the only thing I can remotely explain this phenomena as is the government and intelligence services trying to manufacture consent for further legislation to stifle the few freedoms we have. Everyday now people can sense that something is going to kick off, everyday for the past week its been reported that a child has been sexually assaulted by one of these filthy subhumans washing up. Remigration is mercy at this point.

I will say this elite theory of rule dictatates that this is defection if Dr David Betz is an establishment stooge there is a good chance that your starting to see the elite faulter.
When you compare this to 2020 when almost everyone but Sargoy of akkad, the lotus eaters and our Iranian academic agent. The British elite has been forced to deal with the immigration issue that's been one since 1997.
Keir starmer and the New Labour are quickly losing their keys to various factions who want their own piece of the pie.

 

[Tragon Dirtle]

Conservatives had stretches where they only received loud, singular criticisms on single major issues they could batten down the hatches on, and typically that issue overshadowed everything else.

Yes, because the media chose to give them periods of stability and concentrate reporting like that, but the media now is trying to throw everything at the labour government to make them look incompetent. They are actually making small steps towards lowering immigration, and while bigger steps would be better they're probably not easily manageable. The tories didn't just happen to have an easier time of things, they had the support of the media. But the media - the murdoch empire - is the same people who are bringing the migrants in, and chose not to report on the boriswave as it was happening and only until it was over and boris can't suffer actual consequences.

I have seen people talk about civil war online and maybe that's true for rural areas but I think if a civil war tried to start in London the muslims would get their shit kicked in by every other group. They have the support of the middle class and upper class white people but those people don't participate in riots anyway - working class white people, black people, sikhs, hindus, gay people, jews, they all hate them. A lot of the gang violence is asians vs blacks which is why the black on black violence narrative has never taken off here as much and the media don't like talking about it.

Technically the first anti-asian riots here were those small shop protests that happened in Brixton in 2021. They're not the same in intent and the riots going on now are more serious, but they definitely mean if things kicked off here that it would be muslims getting dogpiled. There are 1.3 mil muslims vs 1.5 mil black people for a start.

 

[FinnSven]

Yes, because the media chose to give them periods of stability and concentrate reporting like that, but the media now is trying to throw everything at the labour government to make them look incompetent. They are actually making small steps towards lowering immigration, and while bigger steps would be better they're probably not easily manageable. The tories didn't just happen to have an easier time of things, they had the support of the media. But the media - the murdoch empire - is the same people who are bringing the migrants in, and chose not to report on the boriswave as it was happening and only until it was over and boris can't suffer actual consequences.

I have seen people talk about civil war online and maybe that's true for rural areas but I think if a civil war tried to start in London the muslims would get their shit kicked in by every other group. They have the support of the middle class and upper class white people but those people don't participate in riots anyway - working class white people, black people, sikhs, hindus, gay people, jews, they all hate them. A lot of the gang violence is asians vs blacks which is why the black on black violence narrative has never taken off here as much and the media don't like talking about it.

Technically the first anti-asian riots here were those small shop protests that happened in Brixton in 2021. They're not the same in intent and the riots going on now are more serious, but they definitely mean if things kicked off here that it would be muslims getting dogpiled. There are 1.3 mil muslims vs 1.5 mil black people for a start.

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In my meandering anecdotal recollection, every time a waki-stani “gang” goes against a “black gentleman’s club”, said black chaps tend to beat the ever living shit out of the bad Apu impersonators.

Mostly to do with black guys on average being bigger and stronger and seemingly having a higher capacity for violence.

While the traditional drug supplying was divided on ethnic lines, South Asians and Arabs or North Africans known to supply smack and hash, compared to gangs with connections to the Caribbean or Ireland making money on coke and weed, they seemed to leave each other’s territory alone unless someone ambitious decided to make a war.

But in any case, muzzas won’t stand a chance against black and white when they unite and fight.

 

[kazuhiro]

From the New York Post.

The dam is breaking on Britain’s illegal immigration crisis — and the results could be ugly
By Glenn H. Reynolds
Published Aug. 5, 2025

Britain’s Labour government is in trouble: Its program of massive third-world immigration from places like Pakistan and Somalia is wildly, overwhelmingly unpopular.
But that’s not the real problem.
The real problem is that despite the best efforts of Prime Minister Keir Starmer and his leftist captive media, Britons themselves have discovered just how unpopular it is.
You might think that’s absurd — if mass immigration is unpopular, how can everyone not know it?
Everyone doesn’t know it because the government has been policing speech about immigration.
Any criticism of open borders, lax enforcement or — worst of all — immigrant crime has been punished as “racist” and “hate speech” by the Starmer regime.
The point of this isn’t to reduce racism or hate (heck, the censorship likely make that worse), but to make it harder for people to realize just how many of their fellow citizens feel the same way they do.
For years, Britain has stifled reports of immigrant rape gangs in places like Rotherham and has persecuted those who have called attention to them, even jailing some.
And as the government gives light sentences to child rapists, it’s imprisoning moms for tweets on grounds of “inciting race hatred.”
It’s all to construct and maintain something known as “preference falsification,” a move usually practiced by authoritarian regimes.
The trick is, you make citizens pretend that they believe what the government says, and fake their approval of what it does.
You promote marches and demonstrations and speech in favor of the government’s preferred positions, and you severely punish marches and demonstrations and speech that oppose the government’s favored positions.
You give excuses, like “stopping counterrevolutionary activity” or “fighting hate speech,” for shutting down any opposition.
You may even have informers to ferret out wrongthink and report it to the authorities, or to employers, or to third parties who will engage in extralegal (but government-supported) harassment.
If you do it right, you can have upward of 90% of your population hating you and your policies, but doing and saying nothing about them — because everyone in that 90% thinks they’re part of a tiny minority.
Resistance will seem to be futile.
This works.
Until it doesn’t.
The problem with preference falsification is that sooner or later some event or development can make people realize that what they’ve been told is popular is, in fact, very unpopular.
When this happens, as Duke University scholar Timur Kuran writes in his book “Private Truths, Public Lies,” the result is a “preference cascade.”
When large swaths of the population realize their dissident views are in fact widely held, they become less afraid of the government — and less hesitant about sharing their true sentiments.
And that’s what’s happening now in Britain, after a string of cases in which migrants sexually assaulted local girls and women.
Across the United Kingdom, people — including large numbers of middle-aged and middle-class women, not the “far-right” skinheads that Starmer and his ilk claim stoke all anti-immigrant sentiment — are protesting outside the hotels where the government is housing illegal migrants, shouting “Send them home!” and “Protect our girls!”
The demonstrations in the last two weeks — featuring thousands of people carrying St. George flags, the traditional symbol of England — are too big to hide, and they’re cropping up in every corner of the nation, organized largely on Facebook and other social media.
Starmer has gotten the government-controlled media to present its spin and to black out or soft-pedal most bad news.
But news gets out in other ways.
In particular, Elon Musk’s maintenance of X as a free-speech zone has made it much harder for the ruling elites to keep people in the dark.
Now the government is scared, alternating between overweening demands and ignominious retreats.
After London police tried to ban protests outside migrant hotels, authorities walked it back with a “clarification” that the ban applied only to specific protesters.
Questionable groups of masked, thuggish “counterprotesters” have been allegedly delivered to marches in police buses — only to find themselves outnumbered and pushed back by the throng.
Sometimes preference cascades presage major political changes; other times, as in the famous case of Nicolas Ceausescu’s communist Romania, they produce violent revolution.
(One thing about preference falsification is that it often keeps the government in the dark, too — Ceausescu genuinely believed his people loved him, until shortly before he was hauled out and shot.)
The British establishment would have been better served to let its citizens debate the immigration question openly and fairly. It didn’t do so because it knew it would lose such a debate.
Instead, it foisted open borders on a nation that didn’t want them, then tried to silence opposition.
Now we’re watching as the regime’s strategy collapses.
Will it end in Starmer’s ouster — or worse, in violence?
Either way, the aftermath will be ugly.
Glenn Harlan Reynolds is a professor of law at the University of Tennessee and founder of the InstaPundit.com blog.

 

[Golden Apple]

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So they do environmental studies about native wildlife so it doesn't get harmed by businesses - so I ask, when they were moving in pakis and shitskins, where were the studies done for the effect on native britons? It seems like they're getting to be a threatened species just as much at that lil squeaker.