Off-Topic Losing people to transgenderism support thread - Support group for trans widows and other people who lost loved ones to troonism

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Fuck if I know. I assume some sort of writing-related people, which means probably redditors. She said she stopped talking to them when they did it. I'm not worried about her falling for it, because like I said, she's got that stubborn streak.
I hope you're right. Not trying to be alarmist but well over half the formerly "based" women I know through conservative circles (ie church groups) have slowly morphed into SJW gender nightmare types via those "harmless hobby" groups like nanwrimo, knitting, whatever. A lot of people got blindsided by mass hysteria and propaganda that was very sneaky and well-done.
 
I hope you're right. Not trying to be alarmist but well over half the formerly "based" women I know through conservative circles (ie church groups) have slowly morphed into SJW gender nightmare types via those "harmless hobby" groups like nanwrimo, knitting, whatever. A lot of people got blindsided by mass hysteria and propaganda that was very sneaky and well-done.
There is no such thing as a based woman. Women just agree with whatever their friends and "everyone" believes. Low T men are similar. John Norman was right.
 
I remember making a joke with some friends saying that social media, especially Twitter, is full of people that can't take any joke, that they take everything too seriously. It was also quite a sly dig at troons and fags online who bitch and moan just about everything. Then this fat bitch we know, as expected, reacted negatively, as if I touched her inapropriately or made a joke about her dead family member. I ignored her because, guess what? She's a tranny, "feminist," and fag enabler, ultra-leftist.

Mind you, there was a gay guy in that particular circle, yet even he seems to agree that socmed troons are insane.
 
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Just a little note on my friends poly relationship.
This not the type of poly where everyone is everyone's boyfriend/girlfriend. He is in the kind of relationship where he shares one of the pooners with the other pooner. He became a voluntary cuck.
Man at this pace this guy is gonna become a personal lolcow of mine. I usually wouldnt mind but I'm looking at the downfall of someone I really cared about. I'm gonna be seeing him ruin his own life in real time
*sigh*
Yet another update on my friend's situation. He now says he has DID.
He is getting into personal lolcow territory now, I think is all gonna be downhill from here.
*sigh*
 
Yet another update on my friend's situation. He now says he has DID.
He is getting into personal lolcow territory now, I think is all gonna be downhill from here.
*sigh*
My dude, your only option now is forcibly kidnapping this bloke and taking him out bush until he detoxes from social media and the entire fucking internet.
 
I'm in a delicate situation and just need to word vomit to alleviate the discomfort and anxiety. This is the closest thread I could think of to dump my guts.

So:

It's gonna be an "all girls" week coming up, and my cousin (MTF/non binary, not yet 20 years old, if I recall) is gonna be there.

It's less of a problem that she's there and bioligacally male, because A) It's family at a private property where there are gonna be no single sex space issues, and, more importantly, B) she's a quiet, sweet kid, very self concious and reserved, and I would have welcomed him out if he were fully comfortable in his male, quiet, sweet, introverted self.

The problem is the simple fact that I've fully peaked, and I'm worried recent events will be brought up (Imane, to name one, or JK Rowling in general, more likely) and I won't be able to express my thoughts or even remain silent without ruining the whole week and hurting multiple people.

There's a lot of background, but to give the long and short of it: I was all of 17 when I first met my cousin, and he was 8 or 9 at the time. I think he started transitioning when he was...god, I guess it would not much before or after puberty.

As I said, quiet, sweet, introverted little boy. Small for his age. Probably on the spectrum. A lot of my male cousins guessed he was gonna be gay.

Emotionally absent father and n overworked, overprotective mother.

There is not a malicious bone in my aunt's body, so I will brook no "Evil attention seeking parent" arguments. However, as mentioned, my aunt was/is overprotective to the point of smothering, and accidently isolated her child by taking him out of public school to ease Cousin's self worth issues and avoid potential bullying.

My aunt and my cousin eventually took the option of social and potentially some medical transitioning to help alleviate my cousin's growing depression apparently manifesting as gender dysphoria.

I remember saying in private, once, in my early 20s when I was only beginning to peak, that I thought it was not a good route to go, but it wasn't my decision.

One person agreed with me, who's passed on now, and the others either didn't know how to handle to situation and/or trusted the diagnosis and treatment.

Obviously, it's been years now, since Cousin is on the precipice of adulthood. She presents female, and looks to have had at least some cross sex hormones, as there are breasts despite Cousin's thin frame. I don't *think* Cousin's been exposed to grooming shit on discord, but the fuck do I know?

I love Cousin and refer to Cousin as female basically 100% of the time in real life, but I'm just sad and angry because he's just gonna be fucking ruined in the coming years because of it. He doesn't deserve that.

He's not overtly sexualized in dress or behaviour. He literally is just a more feminine, probably neurodivergent, probably gay male who wanted to be happy with himself, and was fucking experimented on through zero fault of his own.

I don't blame his mom, despite it all. She was ignorant, scared, and did her best to help her kid.

I'm angry at the medical malpractice that let a depressed kid take cross sex hormones, though thankfully, no surgery as far as I understand.

I'm honestly becoming more and more angry at his dad as I think about it. He fucking ignored his kid because his son wasn't masculine enough to catch his attention. I think I've seen Cousin and his dad exchange 3 words in the last 10 years despite them living in the same house Cousin's entire life. Keep in mind. I met Cousin when he was under 10.

I'm angry at myself for not taking a stand earlier, for what good it would have done.

I'm angry I can't take a stand now because it's too late.

And I'm angry that I can't express this shit or even anything adjacent to this whole gender cancer without either offending my more outspoken family members, or hurting my sweet aunt by saying she failed as a mother despite all her efforts, or saying straight to his face that my cousin's whole fucking life now is based on a lie, and destroying what is supposed to be a relaxing, fun week for all of us.

Fucking fuck, man.

Good to get this shit off my chest, at least.
 
The problem is the simple fact that I've fully peaked, and I'm worried recent events will be brought up (Imane, to name one, or JK Rowling in general, more likely) and I won't be able to express my thoughts or even remain silent without ruining the whole week and hurting multiple people.
If your family has any other topics that they've agreed on not arguing about, you could explicitly tie it to that.

It's a set of deeply-held beliefs that nobody's going to "win" an argument about; treat it like religion or politics. If you have different sects coexisting for a family get-together and not getting in dust-ups about female ordination, maybe you could follow how that's been going.

I know how tempting it is to argue, to tell the people you care about the truth. You're also right that that's not going to win any hearts-n-minds, and going to cast a pall on the weekend for everyone.

This hard understanding is where you differ from a troon who's going to make his debut in a dress at Grandpa's funeral.
 
I know how tempting it is to argue, to tell the people you care about the truth.
Basically all of my friends are very progressive. I've really had to learn to bite my tongue on the troon issue. It's so tempting because the truth is so obvious: "why do you think men can be women you retard????"

But it doesn't work like that, unfortunately.
 
Basically all of my friends are very progressive. I've really had to learn to bite my tongue on the troon issue. It's so tempting because the truth is so obvious: "why do you think men can be women you retard????"

But it doesn't work like that, unfortunately.
It kinda does, actually.
I've been outspoken about this shit for a long time. Loud about it since about 2018.
Speaking the truth is all we can do. People respect me for it and the end result is I've surrounded myself with likeminded people (nigger-sayers, I like to call them)
The world is a big place with lots of people. Most of them are against this tranny bullshit, but are afraid to speak out. I was really surprised the first couple times I spoke up and was met with supportive texts, kind words in hushed tones, and praise from behind my back.
People are cowards, but that doesn't mean they're blind.

Speak up. It works.
 
It kinda does, actually.
I've been outspoken about this shit for a long time. Loud about it since about 2018.
Speaking the truth is all we can do. People respect me for it and the end result is I've surrounded myself with likeminded people (nigger-sayers, I like to call them)
The world is a big place with lots of people. Most of them are against this tranny bullshit, but are afraid to speak out. I was really surprised the first couple times I spoke up and was met with supportive texts, kind words in hushed tones, and praise from behind my back.
People are cowards, but that doesn't mean they're blind.

Speak up. It works.
Whenever you talk to people who have detransed, the least helpful people in their lives were the “kind and affirmative” ones.

Many of them mention that their journey to detransing started with someone who sowed doubts, spoke up, didn’t just go along with the “Just be kind and ignore it”, but in a loving and kind way didn’t play along.

Just saying.
 
It kinda does, actually.
I've been outspoken about this shit for a long time. Loud about it since about 2018.
Speaking the truth is all we can do. People respect me for it and the end result is I've surrounded myself with likeminded people (nigger-sayers, I like to call them)
The world is a big place with lots of people. Most of them are against this tranny bullshit, but are afraid to speak out. I was really surprised the first couple times I spoke up and was met with supportive texts, kind words in hushed tones, and praise from behind my back.
People are cowards, but that doesn't mean they're blind.

Speak up. It works.
Same. My close friends and family know how much I despise this weird gender bullshit, and it confuses the fuck out of them as I tend to be pretty liberal on most subjects apart from troons and migrants.

i really have to bite my tongue in work as there are two feministy girls, one is a total handmaiden Tumblr feminist and the other may be secretly based but its not worth finding out, being wrong, and ending up in front of HR.

I can’t trust any of the guys as they are middle class union mongs LARPing as working class heroes and they have all the safe lefty opinions.
 
I no longer speak to someone who used to be a good friend of mine, cos his teenage son trooned out.

It sucks, because while I rarely talk about this kind of thing with IRL friends, he and I had briefly talked about it a long time before his son trooned out, and we were in agreement when it came to things like troons in women's sports and giving puberty blockers to children. His wife is a classic SJW rainbow-haired type, and I can't help but feel like he's having to bury his true feelings now.

He's got 2 older sons who are normal guys, but the younger one who's trooned out is your stereotypical terminally online scrawny "femboy".

I didn't even know about his son trooning out when he blanked me; he just stopped talking to me, so I asked why and he said it's cos he didn't like my attitude towards trans people, and then I found out about his son. It's so weird, cos we literally spoke about trans issues one time for a couple of minutes and we were in agreement.
 
I'm in a delicate situation
The root of your discomfort and dilemma about how to handle it is that you have not fully committed to the truth.

You vacillate between "he"s and "she"s when talking about this kid for some reason. You know he's a male, and can admit it half the time, so what's going on the other half? You're scared to fully commit to the truth, because you know it's going to cause inconvenience.

If you were fully committed to the truth you could comfortably say "Johnny is not a girl. I don't mind spending time with him at the cabin, but I won't lie to myself and others and say this is a girls weekend if he attends."

Oh shock horror clutch of the pearls, that would be MEAN! That would hurt FEELS! Including the aunt you are shielding from responsibility for how badly she fucked up her son's life.

Well. Do it or don't. But own your choice. It's yours.
 
Neither a loved one, nor a friend, just my neighbour, but I need to vent and figured this is the best place for it.

Some time ago a new person has moved into my apartment building, and theories started since day one. My other neighbours were adamant that it's a young boy who moved here with his parents. Well, all it took was one look at this person and I knew it's a goddamn woman. Even more so when I heard her voice, and when I got to speak to her. A typical tomboy, buzzcut, neutral clothes, but obviously a female voice, a female body visible even under her baggy clothes. Oh, cool, a tomboy, I think, most likely a lesbian (lo and behold, a few weeks later I saw her with her girlfriend). She has a job and lives alone, so obviously a young woman, and not a 15 year old boy.

We're friendly, we talk from time to time about work or whatever, i think we're similar age, shes probably younger though. A very nice young lady. All this time I keep thinking: God I hope this isn't a pooner. God i hope its not one of those tomboys/lesbians lost in this lunacy. Basically praying it's just a cool dyke neighbour living her life, and there's nothing more to it, no ideology. I tried to deduce from her speech if she thinks of herself as a guy or if she's normal (it's super easy in my gendered language) but either I couldn't notice, or she deliberately used neutral phrases (difficult but doable). She also introduced herself to me with a feminine name, but honestly I'm doubting everything right now.

Well anyway, today I met her, we greet each other as usual, and 1) I smell men's perfume all over the place (I haven't really noticed it previously), 2) she unmistakably uses a masculine verb. I heard it clear as day.

I'm so mad. I'm not sure right now if I just haven't noticed it before, and misheard the name or whatever, or if she just decided to poon out in the recent months. Nothing else changed about her.

I'm a total lurker and I never post anywhere but fuck man, I'm just so sad right now I needed to write this somewhere. I always hear and read stories, but experiencing it first hand even in the form of a person I barely know... feels bad. We're losing women and girls to their self-hatred and fantasy concepts. Why can't we all just fucking be.
 
1) I smell men's perfume all over the place (I haven't really noticed it previously), 2) she unmistakably uses a masculine verb. I heard it clear as day.
Is it not possible she just likes “masculine” scents and is still a self-identified lesbian, just using masculine verbs? I think it’s pretty stupid and regressive, but there’s English language lesbians who don’t poon and still use he/him. Either way, thanks for caring about her. :feels:
 
I'm angry at the medical malpractice that let a depressed kid take cross sex hormones, though thankfully, no surgery as far as I understand.
They will try to nudge him into getting surgery eventually. This is where you have some leverage. If he ever brings it up, show him any of the horror stories from the SRS thread (but not necessarily the pictures, unless he is of age by that time.)
 
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