Megathread SRS and GRS surgeons and associated horrors - the medical community of experimental surgeons, the secret community of home butchers

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I'm just going to repeat what I said the last time I talked about Gruffin;

“This woman is going to die before she is 30”

She would have turned 25 this month.

Less than 10 years on Testosterone, and 3 years of nothing but problems and complications from the multiple surgeries to permanently disfigure herself.

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Gruffin didn’t have siblings. Her parents were gaslit by activists into believing they were saving her life by supporting her transition. “You rather want a living son or a dead daughter?” Well, now they have a dead daughter. And no living children.

I’m so angry right now, top hats be damned. This is just too grim.

From what I could tell on a quick search -

Her mother is 67 years old. Maternal grandparents both dead (grandmother in March 2000.)

Her father is 49 years old and remarried. The paternal grandmother that she lived with is 68.

So 24-year-old dad and 42-year-old mom had their only child in 1999. And in 2014 put her on T.
 
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Looking at Elephantdick's Reddit; she hasn't posted a single word of Gruffin's death to the others but has posted dozens of comments encouraging TiFs to get phalloplasty and other typical r/phallo advice. This includes the very day she posted her condolences on Gruff's memorial page and they were friends.

No lessons learned and a victim already forgotten and buried (in both senses) as her death goes against their narrative.
 
Gruffin didn’t have siblings. Her parents were gaslit by activists into believing they were saving her life by supporting her transition. “You rather want a living son or a dead daughter?” Well, now they have a dead daughter. And no living children.

I’m so angry right now, top hats be damned. This is just too grim.
 
I'll repeat information I posted long ago in this thread.

hysterectomy, castration, penectomy, mastectomy, and no-depth cosmetic vulva construction are all low risk surgeries that are well-studied due to their common use for non-trans people. adults who wish to change their body to suit them can get these surgeries for low expense, low risk.

anything done by the surgeons mentioned in this thread that promise more? that's experimental, untested work. it's surgery that is being used to promote a surgeon, work that's being done purely for cash flow.

the culture of silence in the community that gets this work done, contributes to death and disfigurement. desperation to get better work done, fear of reprisal from the surgeons, and hush culture are all dangerous things. bad results are bad results, and the high expectations are unrealistic and often dangerous.

until these surgeries are properly studied, and surgeons are sharing data and notes, these are not safe surgeries for anyone to get.

personally I do not care what adults decide to do with their bodies, dangerous or otherwise. however as a medical worker I think these kind of surgeries need to be studied properly, developed correctly, and overseen. publication of results and techniques should be a requirement.

the issue here stems originally from loose standards regarding plastic surgeons, since most of their work is privately paid there's a lower standard of care in that field.

a proper team for this kind of surgery would be a urologist, a plastic surgeon, a neurologist, anesthesiology, psychiatry, orthopedics, and physical therapists as well as a dedicated wound care and follow-up team. what we see now is a few nurses, anesthetics and a surgeon in the room, from start to finish. it's unsafe.
 
And despite all her social media activism, the place that will remember Gruffin the longest is the evil Kiwifarms.

RIP Gruffin. What a wasted life. That obituary is the poonerest obituary I have ever read, good lord.

Oh, the irony. I’m not devastated, since I did not know her personally, but I’d be lying if I said I felt nothing. I don’t feel bad about grown man creep Lissa having to wear colostomy bags from fucking around and finding out. Witnessing Gruffin’s downfall was something else. When it was revealed she was on dialysis I knew she was going to die within a year or two. Just last month I mentioned that her eyes were starting to look dead. She was not long for this world. She probably sensed it as well.

It’s far from the worst obituary I have ever read. In fact, it’s a good one. I’ve read some where you can tell the brevity wasn’t from financial reasons. Whoever wrote it truly cared for her. If anything, it emphasizes just short her life was cut. Mentioning her entry level retail jobs as a peak of her life was a bit weird, but okay. I suppose there’s only so much you can write about with a young woman that died after years worth of surgical complications. Operations that she never needed, mind you. Her life was taken from her before it could truly begin. I’m surprised that she actually graduated from college.

And that talk of how important her slacktivism was to the trans community stings knowing exactly what @batteredpancakes et al mentioned. She has been cast aside to make way for more of her, because that’s just how they operate. I guarantee Gruffin impacted thread readers much more than she did the community she thought accepted her. The lack of tributes out in the wild vs in this mere thread is telling. If her story saves one girl from going down her path, it was not in vain.

What a waste.
 
Mentioning her entry level retail jobs as a peak of her life was a bit weird, but okay. I suppose there’s only so much you can write about with a young woman that died after years worth of surgical complications.
They did manage to fit in her Funko Pops collection. At that point, it's almost better not to mention it. Someone was looking around her room and trying to remember what she liked, that they understood. It was either that or spend more space lauding the pooning that killed her.

Her mother is 67 years old. [...] The paternal grandmother that she lived with is 68.
Completely beside the point, but I bet that didn't help matters, either.
 
That so-called close friend that the obituary mentions ,Wyatt Nestor-Pasicznyk, is also a pooner and she hasn't mentioned anything on her socials.
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In fact, I don't see any activity between them in the comments or see Gruff in her group pictures either.
Trannies are the worst friends.
 
More of Gruffin’s waking nightmare (and I’m positive it’s her: talking about all the same repairs and complications in her feed)



So… was it worth it? :(
It's awful that she died for this. Was it her choice? Yes, but there's still a part of me that feels bad for someone losing their life so early.
Looking at Elephantdick's Reddit; she hasn't posted a single word of Gruffin's death to the others but has posted dozens of comments encouraging TiFs to get phalloplasty and other typical r/phallo advice. This includes the very day she posted her condolences on Gruff's memorial page and they were friends.

No lessons learned and a victim already forgotten and buried (in both senses) as her death goes against their narrative.
That so-called close friend that the obituary mentions ,Wyatt Nestor-Pasicznyk, is also a pooner and she hasn't mentioned anything on her socials.
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In fact, I don't see any activity between them in the comments or see Gruff in her group pictures either.
Trannies are the worst friends.
Trannies really are the worst friends. Elephantdick doesn't seem to care whatsoever that her friend died, and instead is encouraging others to go down the same dark path that Gruffin did, right after she died. They really dont give a single shit about their "community" even though they spend so much time gushing about it. If someone dies due to surgury complications, it's not talked about because it reveals a massive hole in their "life saving surgery" narrative. It really is a death cult.
 
Who/what is the "cherished son" mentioned in Gruffin's obituary? Anyone know? Obviously she didn't have any children, biological or other, so who could this be? A pet?

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The obituary has some bad grammar and I had to reread a few parts to get what they were trying to say.

I think the 'son' is referring to her pet bearded dragon Randall. She's owned him since at least 2012.
 
The obituary has some bad grammar and I had to reread a few parts to get what they were trying to say.

I think the 'son' is referring to her pet bearded dragon Randall. She's owned him since at least 2012.
Oh OK, that makes sense now. I read it as the "pet dragon" belonging to the "son", but your interpretation makes more sense.

As many of us are no doubt wondering... when do you think Gruffin crossed the point of no return, medically speaking? At what point could she have "detransed" and managed to regain some basic health and bodily function? We know Stump Dick had hers removed and seems to be doing comparatively well, but Stump Dick didn't have vaginectomy or urethral lengthening done, and that's probably what saved her from the most serious complications. Gruffin had repeated UTIs from urethral diverticulitis, which, for non-medfags, basically means that a pocket formed between her "old anatomy" and the start of her urethral graft, in which bacteria would congregrate and proliferate, only to migrate up into her bladder and eventually kidneys as well. This was not a one-time thing, either, but it kept happening and each and every time the doctors would bombard the infection with more antibiotics.

Standing to pee was literally what killed Gruffin.
 
when do you think Gruffin crossed the point of no return
I don't know when she crossed the point of no return but I do know the man who caused it to happen. This bastard. Dr. Oren Ganor
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This fuckers specialty is pediatrics.
It took me a long time to come to terms with everything that happened to me in recovery, acknowledging my medical trauma. I was and still am hesitant to completely blacklist a surgeon that got me and others closer to comfort with our bodies. But no one should ever have to go through things like this again. This is my experience and can only speak for myself, but know there are several others of us who have been hurt and traumatized by this team.

I had stage one of RFF phallo with Dr Ganor and the gender surgery team at BCH in Boston, MA in April 2021. I had additional surgeries related to stage one complications on 6-7, 6-22, 6-30, and 11-18. For most of 2021 after receiving care here and throughout my consult process, I:

-Was told that urological complications happen in 40-50% of patients. I’m not aware of any patient of theirs that DIDN’T experience urological issues or didn’t take multiple surgeries to fix.

-Staging/method of my surgery changed 4 times throughout the process to “minimize complications”, including once right before my surgery with little to no warning. The staging did nothing to prevent/minimize complications.

-You are given direct emails to staff/PA’s in plastics, but nothing for urology. You have to call the general urology line, wait for hours while writhing in pain, and sometimes not even receive a call back. If it’s the weekend or before 8/after 5, you’re out of luck. Even if your catheter bag is filling with blood or you can’t pass urine, your only advice will be “flush the tube” after waiting hours.

-Had limb swelling and chest pain ignored and misdiagnosed as being “normal” or constipation for weeks until I had DVT in both legs, blood clots in my pelvis, and bilateral pulmonary embolism. I still have joint pain and swelling issues in my legs from DVT damage.

-Urology staff ignored my breathing concerns and listed my lung functions as normal in my ER report the night before my ICU admission for clots despite struggling to breathe and my chest audibly gurgling. They discharged me without any medications after saying “I wasted my time driving down there”. There was a chance the clots could’ve killed me soon after if I didn’t get a second opinion.

-BCH didn’t read any notes or reports written by staff at the hospital I was receiving clot treatment at. BCH supposedly discovered a urethral diverticulum for the first time on 6/22, but this was already diagnosed by the previous hospital on 5/11.

-Urology did nothing to treat my diverticulum for nearly 6 months, despite discovering it. It made me completely incontinent and in diapers 24/7 for that entire time frame. They said my “leakage was normal”.

-Urology would not diagnose or examine me for bladder stones despite getting new UTI’s every single week and constant lower left back pain. I had stones for at least 4 months straight with no treatment.

-Urology would not examine me for a stricture despite it getting to the point where I couldn’t push anything through my urethra except a couple drops. I told them multiple times, they said it was “probably constipation” and an exam was not necessary. I had stricture symptoms for over 4 months with zero treatment.

I believed that this team had my best interests for far too long and falsely thought “I was just that one unfortunate case”. There was hurt people before me, there was hurt people after me. The team has new doctors and staff that have greatly improved complications and experiences, don’t get me wrong. But the experience didn’t change whatsoever when several of us gained permanent complications, weren’t given treatment for months, literally almost died because of their frequent inactions. Honestly fuck this hospital and how it’s treated patients of the past as well as everyone now.

Dr Ganor is a great surgeon with an iffy bedside manner and not very warm, especially after you experience unplanned complications that stray your surgical path. But several other doctors and staff on the team, especially in the urology department, have given out reprehensible care or a lack thereof that has left patients in recovery limbo, traumatized people, or threatened some peoples’ lives. Their team changes, but the trauma and memories stay. I’m barely complete with stage one and don’t know when or if I’ll be having any more surgeries. I really can’t recommend anyone go to this team if they want optimal urology care, a short surgical timeline, or efficient treatment.
 
RIP Griffin. You could have been so much more than a cautionary tale.

It really underscores what a strange moment in time this is:
  • experimental surgery that caused immense pain and then killed her = life-saving
  • totally ignoring her suffering and death, while encouraging others to follow her = compassionate
  • Farmers expressing shock and sorrow, using female pronouns = literal genocide
 
Oh OK, that makes sense now. I read it as the "pet dragon" belonging to the "son", but your interpretation makes more sense.

As many of us are no doubt wondering... when do you think Gruffin crossed the point of no return, medically speaking? At what point could she have "detransed" and managed to regain some basic health and bodily function? We know Stump Dick had hers removed and seems to be doing comparatively well, but Stump Dick didn't have vaginectomy or urethral lengthening done, and that's probably what saved her from the most serious complications. Gruffin had repeated UTIs from urethral diverticulitis, which, for non-medfags, basically means that a pocket formed between her "old anatomy" and the start of her urethral graft, in which bacteria would congregrate and proliferate, only to migrate up into her bladder and eventually kidneys as well. This was not a one-time thing, either, but it kept happening and each and every time the doctors would bombard the infection with more antibiotics.

Standing to pee was literally what killed Gruffin.
Hm, if I remember correctly, she also had one or more heart attacks, right? Her health obviously took the worst nosedive after phallo, but overdosing on testosterone could've also given her some serious health consequences in the long run.
 
I don't know when she crossed the point of no return but I do know the man who caused it to happen. This bastard. Dr. Oren Ganor
At first I thought dr. Oregano made himself up a fantasy or a telephone prank name like Ally Gator or Alec Tricity to cover up some previous mistakes, and it turns out that's a real name.
 
R.I.P Griffin
יִתְגַּדַּל וְיִתְקַדַּשׁ שְׁמֵיהּ רַבָּא
(הקהל עונה אמן)
בְּעָלְמָא דִּי בְרָא, כִרְעוּתֵהּ. וְיַמְלִיךְ מַלְכוּתֵהּ, וְיַצְמַח פּוּרְקָנֵה, וִיקָרֵב מְשִׁיחֵהּ
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בְּחַיֵּיכוֹן וּבְיוֹמֵיכוֹן וּבְחַיֵּי דְכָל-בֵּית יִשְׂרָאֵל, בַּעֲגָלָא וּבִזְמַן קָרִיב, וְאִמְרוּ אָמֵן
(הקהל עונה אמן יְהֵא שְׁמֵיהּ רַבָּא מְבָרַךְ, לְעָלַם וּלְעָלְמֵי עָלְמַיָּא. יִתְבָּרַךְ)
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what a life. i hope your memory is a blessing griffin, but also a warning. these poor, poor women.
 
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