Megathread SRS and GRS surgeons and associated horrors - the medical community of experimental surgeons, the secret community of home butchers

[2mm and 99 others]

"The problem with pooners is they need plastic surgery to make their faces prettier!"

"Yeah, and boob jobs too!"

"Ew pornbrain!"

While some ...features... like a crooked jaw or no chin are perceived as a deformity and dysgenic quite everywhere, many others are not.
Don't know how to say it, but the way 'murica got colonized (I mean mixing of people of various nationalities and the communities falling apart as people moved for work) makes some people feel isolated and alone with their perceived ugliness. The uneven spread of wealth even between whiteys doesn't help, but that's for some other thread.
You might not like when you look somewhat mongoloid and know you are never going to get a movie role and escape poverty thanks to your looks, but when half of the nation looks like that, it's easier to deal with.

 

[behindyourightnow]

Taking this back to tentacle nub, I wouldn't be surprised if that undergrown jaw that both her and her father have came with misaligned or small teeth that cause problems with their bite and her non-existant nose bridge certainly didn't help with breathing or her self-esteem. The fact that braces or orthodontics are something that isn't just offered as normal care along with surgical options in realigning jaws is insane, a bad bite causes chronic pain and migraines, and can cause permanent bone damage and deformation. I had a work friend who had to have his jaws replaced with titanium ones because even with public healthcare corrective dentistry is too much for a man who chewed his bones into sharp nubs. He was in hideous pain, but apparently helping him keep his jawbone was a step too far but replacing it wasn't, insane, isn't it?

Entire races of people have flat nasal bridges, as do most children. As long as everything is working on the inside, you can still breathe fine.

As for your ideas, honestly, they're almost a parallel to the "fixing everything with surgery" attitude that has also given birth to the abominations in this thread. Half of the issues you mention ideally should not be fixed with surgery because they have environmental causes (people have not always had small jaws and misaligned teeth). You seem to think of braces and orthodontics and jaw surgery as preventive care, when in most cases they are exactly the opposite: they are band-aid solutions for a society full of people who don't know how to take care of themselves and who run to go under the knife instead of considering more simple and boring solutions (like screening kids for mouth-breathing and incorrect swallow patterns, or rethinking soft-food diets in early childhood).

There are plenty of dumpy dysgenics that troon out, yes, but the last few pages have also featured a 6'1 Amazonian. Being weird-looking doesn't make you troon out, being groomed does.

I wonder if her dysmorphic features, mainly that underdeveloped mandible, were ever discussed clinically? Her recessed jaw is so severe that it's not just a cosmetic issue but a functional one. She always sounded like a creepy mouthbreather in her videos, and compounded with the T-frayed vocal cords that produced the croaky frog voice, it was very grating to listen to. But yeah, the bloat is already there. She's clearly overweight already, but her chubbiness has a babylike quality to it that makes it... weird. No kid past toddlerhood is supposed to look like that. Makes me wonder what she had going on.

I'm not really seeing it. She has a weak jaw, but so do like 50% of kids these days (as mentioned above, mouth breathing and diet is driving the Chad jaw to extinction). It seemed to improve a bit by adulthood, too. The baby-face can probably mostly be explained by the effects of blockers and hormones (and maybe medication).

 

[Faceless Whore]

Her baby pics (7 July)

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I wonder what young you would think of you dying from a cascade of horrifying health issues at the very early age of 24 after a completely unnecessary fakedick surgery that made you realize after a lifetime of transitioning that you didn't actually want to be a man.

 

[and I must scream]

I think that in itself raises the question of why these girls are not emotionally and mentally equipped to deal with these things

I have things to say about this but I'm short of time at the moment so I'd skip this for now. Hopefully I'd get to that later...

How is it that humans have existed for thousands of years without this epidemic of Pooning Out? Are we to believe that no teenage girl was ever hit on before the mid 2010's?

The answer is simple. Never before teenage girls have been told that if they don't feel like a woman/teenage girl, it means they aren't one.

I said it before here, I didn't feel like a woman either when I was a teen and even a very young adult. What does it actually mean, "didn't feel like a woman"? Basically I had this image of what a woman (or a teenage girl on her way to become a woman) is and/or should be, and I didn't fit this image, I didn't feel this is me, I couldn't connect to it, I didn't have what it takes to be this. This image was heavily, heavily influenced by the media (social media barely existed back then). MTV clips with young women in it, teenage girls and young women on TV shows, advisements with women and teenage girls in it, teen magazines I read; so a lot of it wasn't even based on actual real-life living and breathing women and teenage girls.

Nevertheless I had never truly doubted I am a woman, because this was just a given. I'm a female, so I am a woman. That's it.

Teenage girls nowadays are being told that if they don't feel like a woman it means they are not one. Their sex isn't a factor.

I believe the image of a "woman" nowadays is even more distorted than it was when I was younger, and it was pretty bad back then too. Now with social media that is full of young women and teenage girls with makeup and fake eyelashes, duck lips and tons of filters, posing in some cute/sexy poses, and with the accessibility of porn... I think a lot of teen girls have an image of some beautiful sexy woman who men often see as holes to fuck basically when they think of a woman, and they don't feel it's them/don't want to be like that/feel they could never live up to that or fulfill that role. It's just not them, it's not how they really are, it's not what they want to be. They want to be a person, a person that could do anything and be anything, be a more round, complex, comprehensive human being rather then a sex object and pretty face. So they don't "feel like a woman". And since now they are been told that if they don't feel like a woman they aren't one, they are something else... they think they are something else.

that's a short version, I think there are more facets, factors and complexity to it, but the bottom line remines. The separation of sex, a biological fact that is as unchangeable and fundamental as being of the human species is - from "gender", which is some feeling, essence, spirt, soul referring to sex, AND the assertion that "gender" is more important and real than sex, are the reasons to all that pooning and enbying. Before that, teenage girls and women found other ways to cope with the hardships of being female (successfully or not, healthy or not). They didn't have a choice, the option to not be a woman didn't exist. Now it supposedly exists.

 

[monstrous bubo]

Before that, teenage girls and women found other ways to cope with the hardships of being female (successfully or not, healthy or not). They didn't have a choice, the option to not be a woman didn't exist. Now it supposedly exists.

Amen. Anorexia, fleeing to a nunnery, or not having a choice because you’re married off at 13… it’s always been tough to be female, and indeed to be human. We all have ways to destroy ourselves if we’re unhappy.

Spoiler: power level

I didn’t need feminism to make me wary of men. All it took was 12 year old me, no makeup, ugly school uniform, being sexually harassed for the first time. By my teacher. But yeah, let’s blame the evil feminists. Between the Farmers here blaming feminists for troonery, and troons blaming feminists for their literal genocide, them bitches clearly have much to answer for.

 

[The Silent Perjority]

Fucksake.
This is sad, pathetic, infuriating and tragic all at once but it's a direct result of our current reality.
I grew up before the Internet and while there are a zillion benifits from our online ubiquity and yes I'm an old man shouting at clouds this would not, could not have happened before online grooming and validation.

I do pity her. Regardless of her trenchant 'Fuck Terfs' rhetoric and 'just one more procedure' insanity she didn't stand a fucking chance. Her entire fucking life was one of terrible advice from awful people which was then validated by a deeply corrupt and greedy medical establishment.

She was doomed from the start.

 

[Iron Jaguar]

That said the dude could've lost weight and worked out, even if you're fat if you lift weights and put on muscle you'll look infinitely better than skinny fat.

If he's the personality type I believe him to be, or even if he's a Low Delta/Omega mixture, that's not a thing he would ever do.

 

[Zemblan Physics]

Exulansic (she has her own thread) tweeted about Gruffin today and got a lot of attention. 254 000 views atm.

Update: 1 million views, retweet by the man who pioneered the meat- and benzo diet:



This pisses me off. She obviously uses the farms for all her content (update about parents after @Larry David's Opera Cape posted here, for example), but she takes all the credit.


Stolen valor!

 

[Xanthe]

If it helps, I just assumed KF found out first.

 

[revisionist]

I don't want to sound callous and insensitive but I see the same thing radfems do on ovarit, for which every pooner is a poor confused girl and every TIM is a dirty fetishist.
So yeah this gruffin girl passed and it's entirely self inflicted. This moment there are over 24 armed conflicts around the world, children are growing up among rubbles and air sirens while their parents try to fetch some clean water.
I'm out of compassion for these first world cunts. Sorry not sorry.

Have a great Sunday

 

[behindyourightnow]

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I wonder what young you would think of you dying from a cascade of horrifying health issues at the very early age of 24 after a completely unnecessary fakedick surgery that made you realize after a lifetime of transitioning that you didn't actually want to be a man.

I never thought I'd say this sentence, but those Funko Pops in the background really got me. They'll still be in her house now. Her parents are going to have to go into her room one day and take those all little figurines down and decide what to do with them, as well as the rest of her belongings. All her drawings and books, clothes, childhood toys. Where does it all go? What do you keep? And all the time knowing that your only child is gone. And for what? So that she could live out her trans joy and express her inner male gender soul (that totally exists)? So that you didn't end up with "a dead daughter"?

And in the meantime, how will Dr. Oren Ganor be sleeping tonight? Is he thinking about his next expensive vacation that her parents' insurance money helped pay for?

Maybe he is thinking about the article he co-wrote recommending that "online extremists" who spread "misinformation" about gender-affirming care should have their accounts suspended by social media platforms? Or maybe about his older article describing women's fear of crossdressing men invading their spaces as transphobic "gender panic" and recommending that women be "educated" out of it? Or perhaps he is writing another article about how we need to make it easier for kids to cross state lines in order to get their genitals sliced up? The possibilities are endless, but I'm sure he'll be sleeping comfortably.

 

[Procrastinhater]

I unironically think flat chested women should be able to get boob jobs on the taxpayer's dime.

Fuck that I don't want my tax dollars paying for someone's fucking tits anymore than I want it paying for some Pooner that looks like 10 gallons of Lard poured into a sausage skins' rotdog.
You want cosmetic surgery pay for it your fucking self. I don't even think cosmetic surgery should be paid by insurance that shit should be 100% out of pocket. I have no problem if it's a boobjob after a mastectomy because of a Breast Cancer scare, that's different, but an entirely cosmetic procedure? Fuck that.

You have to admit, it's better than all that money going to unemployable niggers and Mexicans who are working cash jobs under the table. Or foreign aid.

Ok you got me on that one. I'd rather taxes went to fake tits than foreign aid or welfare for border jumpers. At least fake tits would be a visible benefit we can all see.

 

[Thomas Eugene Paris]

Wyatt Nestor-Pasicznyk / Laurel Nestor-Pasicznyk/ u/throwaway_fisher / @thatbeltbuckleguy

That ironic haircut is godawful. Are there any men in this thread who would voluntarily style their hair like that?

Reassuring a young girl that phalloplasty will go well and "most complications are temporary" when your close friend just died from said complications is borderline psychopathic.

Good find. How absolutely unhinged. These people clearly do not understand that her death was caused, however indirectly, by the phalloplasty. None of them were particularly intelligent before transitioning, which is why they were swayed by the rhetoric of genderism. Even if they somehow grasp that her phalloplasty is what killed her, they won't blame the procedure itself but the surgeon or bad luck or a previously undiagnosed illness.

These people are stupid and react badly when anyone points out how little sense their belief system makes. They're truly the perfect target for recruitment into a cult, and gender ideologists got to them first.

So no, I’d reckon that she never got it. I reckon her IQ was never too high to begin with, and being juiced with crosssex hormones and having her development permanently fucked as a teenager, probably lowered it even more.

I think this is an accurate prediction. The borderline intellectual functioning was present before Makayla transitioned, which is why she was able to be groomed. If she was prevented from completing puberty, her brain missed a critical window for development, as well.

I would love to know more about how her transition began. I assume she was unsupervised on the Internet from a really young age.

i just noticed something, in looking at that trainwreck...all these dudes squirt like a gallon of lube in their axe wounds for affect, it would seem. gross! why??? there is no way they think its sexy

Their stench trenches don't self-lubricate and are pretty fragile, so they have to use a ton of lube when they dilate to avoid injury.

Her mother felt great when signing it. Best day of her life. Thinking she will now be the envy of everyone in her friend-group and her social media.

Agreed, and I find that tragic in so many ways. Imagine feeling hopeful because your kid has been groomed into believing she's the opposite sex. Anyone actually capable of critical thought would have understood that the actual problem wasn't Makayla's gender dysphoria. Stupid people reproducing is always a tragedy waiting to happen.

 

[UselessRubberKeyboard]

Link to @monstrous bubo 's master post compilation on all things Gruffin, eerily published on July 22, which would be the the day before her death.

Also, here's a picture of Gruffin pre-pooning:

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I wonder if her dysmorphic features, mainly that underdeveloped mandible, were ever discussed clinically? Her recessed jaw is so severe that it's not just a cosmetic issue but a functional one. She always sounded like a creepy mouthbreather in her videos, and compounded with the T-frayed vocal cords that produced the croaky frog voice, it was very grating to listen to. But yeah, the bloat is already there. She's clearly overweight already, but her chubbiness has a babylike quality to it that makes it... weird. No kid past toddlerhood is supposed to look like that. Makes me wonder what she had going on.

Goddamn, that’s a shame. Yes, her face looks weird and baby-like, but it’s the kind of face she could’ve played the ‘cute’ angle up with. With that button nose and small chin, as well as a round face, she likely would’ve stayed looking younger for many more years than most women, which again she could’ve played for her advantage.

There’s always something about your looks that you can play up and be proud of. Absolutely no need to do this trans shit. She looked like an adorable kid and would’ve grown into a cute woman with gentle facial features.

This is all very superficial, but that’s the basis of all this troon stuff, isn’t it? It’s superficial and fucking pointless. You can cut a few bits off, split another and stitch it inside you. Get a hole bored and keep it open with plastic rods. Grow some bumfluff on your neck. Grow your hair out. Wear blue eye shadow and a pvc mini skirt. None of this changes you as a person, and none of it makes you the opposite sex. You can dress up the window of the shop as much as you like, but it’s still just a room in a regular terraced house at the end of it all.

All these surgeries, complications and deaths, for some stupid shallow shit like ‘looking like something I’m not’. What an absolute festival of idiocy. ‘Authentic’? I’ve never seen a movement less authentic in my life. The whole thing is a lie, a sham to screw cash out of rubes and cheap thrills for a few perves.

 

[Procrastinhater]

Link to @monstrous bubo 's master post compilation on all things Gruffin, eerily published on July 22, which would be the the day before her death.

Also, here's a picture of Gruffin pre-pooning:

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I wonder if her dysmorphic features, mainly that underdeveloped mandible, were ever discussed clinically? Her recessed jaw is so severe that it's not just a cosmetic issue but a functional one. She always sounded like a creepy mouthbreather in her videos, and compounded with the T-frayed vocal cords that produced the croaky frog voice, it was very grating to listen to. But yeah, the bloat is already there. She's clearly overweight already, but her chubbiness has a babylike quality to it that makes it... weird. No kid past toddlerhood is supposed to look like that. Makes me wonder what she had going on.

Makayla had a load of strangely dysgenic features, from the recessed chin that's worse than Leafy in some pictures to the general uncanny babylike look, that were exacerbated by her Pooning out to uncanny valley levels, that alongside the way she posted makes me pretty sure she was, if not literally retarded, certainly low iQ, which would have made her even more susceptible to being influenced by gendershit fanatics once she fell into their online hugboxes. If there was any ethics involved in gender medicine, she, and I'm betting a lot of Pooners like her, would have been screened out as unable to understand fully what they were consenting to.

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I wonder what young you would think of you dying from a cascade of horrifying health issues at the very early age of 24 after a completely unnecessary fakedick surgery that made you realize after a lifetime of transitioning that you didn't actually want to be a man.

Gruffin/Makayla was literally on her deathbed, still trying to encourage other silly young girls into the same hell she made for herself. Understanding that your choices are what caused your impeding early and painful demise and accepting it are two different things. I don't doubt some part of her knew that the gendershit was the reason she was dying, but if anyone had asked her I have no doubt she would have still proclaimed the standard Cult "no regrets" line right up till she flat lined.
I'd have sympathy because she was a dumb kid but the fact she was still trying to lure other stupid little girls into destroying their health and lives, and advising them to throw away their relationships with their families that didn't accept their insanity, even as she was hooked up to a fucking dialysis machine because her rotdog poisoned her means that sympathy is a tiny violin playing "It's all over but the crying" to an audience of laughing Hyenas.

 

[Stan]

I know we joke about them looking like deflated ballsacks and it's often just us being bitchy but... C'mon bruh. This really does look like someone used a hoover to suck all the ball from his sack and then stapled the remaining bits to his taint.

I guess he gets a bonus point for not taking the picture with his legs wide apart enough to display his perineal raphe? Gotta give the poor lad credit for something, if he's gotta live with that between his legs from now on

It’s like the whirlpools from The Odyssey - Scylla. Can I call him Scylla?

To no one's surprise... she also claims to have an eating disordered past. Since there are no pictures of her actually being anything other than overweight, I'll assume it was bulimia or binge eating disorder. So we had the opioid addiction, an eating disorder, unfortunate bloated sausage genes from both parents, the geriatric mother... Things just go on and on.

It seems like death had its eyes on Griffin for awhile, between the opiates (which she probably got started on cause of SRS), the SRS complications, the ED (bulimia can kill you at normal weight from purging, you’ll get electrolyte derangements and have a heart attack like Terri Schaivo).
The pooning out did Gruffin in though. I’m sorry, RIP lil dood. You should still be alive rn but you aren’t and I blame the groomers online.

Griffin is a sad tale.

In some parallel reality there’s a wifey Mikayla who married the Subway shift lead and had two kids (who hopefully didn’t get her sausage genetics.) and got a full life with all the complexity of love and romance.

Yeah she should have had all that and more, but her life was cut short by poonerism, both in the sense that she died at 25 (!) from complications of phalloplasty, and also in the sense that she was pooner-tracked at 15 (!) and got a bunch of medical interventions that made normal adolescence and normal psychological development impossible. I know this is the farms but I’m not gonna slander the dead.

Griffin already paid the ultimate price, to STP of all things. There’s nothing I can say to make light of that. But it does galvanize me that there is no harmless trooning out. Social transition isn’t harmless because it sets up future medical intervention, which is obviously not harmless. I’m becoming skeptical that men can harmlessly cross dress, since it seem to fuel AGP tendencies to go fuck up your life.

In the end griffins own friends appear to be less troubled about her passing than some denizens of this thread. That troubling empathy gap in troon ideology disturbs me. They know the risks, they’ve seen what can happen to others, and they don’t care. They can’t even listen to their own voice of self preservation (in the form of pre surgery anxiety) and call their own destruction off. It’s a madness…

 

[Fapcop]

I think this is an accurate prediction. The borderline intellectual functioning was present before Makayla transitioned, which is why she was able to be groomed. If she was prevented from completing puberty, her brain missed a critical window for development, as well.

I mean, for proof just look at her “tentacle dick”… She either got the tattoo impulsively and never stopped to consider that she might need her forearms for a rotdog… Or even worse: The rotdog was totally unplanned and a spur of the moment decision.

Neither speaks well of her iq or ability to plan and foresee the consequences of her actions.

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

Reassuring a young girl that phalloplasty will go well and "most complications are temporary"

Because when you die you won't suffer from complications anymore.

 

[2mm and 99 others]

Just like one of the most important contributions to the terfy thread says:

 

[Criticallacitirc]

TERF twitter is really laying it on thick about Griffins death. They only see pooners as perpetual victims.