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[draggs]

Pure copium. A locked up Trump will have a media machine going wild trying to convince people they can no longer vote for him and all the Rinos launching a counterattack to take back control. Boomers will believe both that the vote no longer counts and that he is a bad bad man now sense he went to prison.

This is up there with niggers supporting Trump in conservative delusion.

So the media is going to do what it already did when Trump was on trial, which failed. But this time it will succeed. Because...

Interesting Reuters piece crying about how Trump has wholly taken over the party, you should check it out

https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-election-trump-purge/

https://archive.ph/j97iC

RINOs are almost all politically dead right now. A lot of the ones who are left are leaving after this election. They're not dead dead but in the face of MAGAts screeching even more than they did during the trials - when the RINOs accomplished nothing - there is even less chance they'd accomplish anything now

I'm not just going to take your word about boomers. Anyone who says it like you do is too dismissive to awkshoolly know much about them. I'd want to see polling data broken down by age to know what they did after his conviction May 31. I suspect not much, since it changed the topline number basically not at all. What changed things was the debate. Trump went from being up 1-3 in most polls to being up 4-7

 

[Nihil Jung]

She already is the candidate. They did an online roll call of the electors.
I’m not familiar enough with the actual rules of the DNC to say if it’s possible to revoke that election at the actual convention and get the new candidate on all the ballots. It’s certainly possible given how undemocratic the rules of the DNC are. But as of right now, she’s not just the heir apparent, she’s officially their candidate.

They're democrats, rules are for everyone else.

(Sorry for double post)

 

[Rimanah]

I don't think there are all that many candidates willing to take one for the team, go into an election which will be a guaranteed loss and destruction of their political career.

Absolutely. The DNC is only a metaphorical hive mind, not a literal one.
At the end of the day, political parties are collectives of individuals who pool their power with other likeminded ones to advance their aims. But when the individual interest conflicts drastically with the groups, they’re going to refuse to comply.

In the case of all promising 2028 candidates, it’s a major conflict between them and the DNC to try to help usurp Kackles. They’d be committing political seppuku just to try and save the DNC face. I don’t see any candidate worth their salt doing that. The only ones who would are the progressive zealots, but they’re going to be as bad as Kamala.

 

[oh no its pipkun]

I can't verify any of this but someone on Twitter said a Chicago police source told them pallets of bricks have been showing up along the planned protest route during the DNC. So take it with a grain of salt but it wouldn't surprise me.
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original reporting comes from Chicago contrarian who has ins with the cpd and is well regarded by other chicago reporters lke heyjackass, cwb chicago and second city cop.

https://x.com/ChicagoContrar1/status/1824978920426426813

the picture is unsubstantiated.

 

[Kuritan Deplorable]

It would be pretty funny if the DNC decides to go with one of their candidates they're saving for 2028 to stop Kamala completely.

I think they're past that point by now. Not because of all the technicals, the stream, all the other procedural issues, but just, donors. Biden sucked up a bunch of money that's now dead in the water. So now Kamela has soaked up a big pile of donations to try and pull a campaign out of their hat last minute - and now the donors are getting blasted with some terrible policy proposals, and seeing the money just not achieving shit. Now, if they try to pivot again? Any sense of donor confidence is going to be completely out the window, both in policy, effectiveness, and frankly whether the candidate will even last to actually be a valid candidate in the election - If they're gonna cheeky all the rules to change kings, why stop at the convention?

That being said, it would be absolutely fucking hilarious regardless. A man can dream, I suppose.

 

[Cuckoman]

In the case of all promising 2028 candidates, it’s a major conflict between them and the DNC to try to help usurp Kackles.

I wonder if Kamala will eventually realize that 2024 is lost and that is the end of her career and that she will not be given a second chance in 2028.

Once she realizes that will she realize that her only chance ever to become President is to 25 Biden?
How ambitious is she to be President Kamala? How important is it to her to be forever known as President Kamala?
When she realizes this will be her one and only chance and time is rapidly running out, will she do something that will be very funny to watch?

 

[Your Girlfriend's Dad]

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The split wouldn't be that simple, unfortunately. This is Highway 101. If you're a normie and live in a town this highway passes through there's a 90% chance you vote blue and are an idiot (this also applies to Oregon and Washington). If you ever wind up here, just avoid that area and you're probably fine. Lots of nice hiking and trails up in the mountains.

Worth noting that I've seen Trump signs go up and stay up undefaced in that area this year and that's a real first.

I think I read in a novel once that the Interstate system is wired with explosives in a lot of places to deny troop movement to hypothetical invaders. No idea if that's actually the case.

Anyway, I just had a totally cool idea that's entirely unrelated to the previous paragraph.

 

[Sweeter and Savoury]

For Fucks Sake

We Doomer's are not upset about the Polls. We know that Trump is ahead in the polls no matter what they MSM is reporting. That's not the problem.

The issue is WHAT the MSM is reporting and how. They are building a narrative with the polls and hype to pave the way for the ballot printers to go BRRRRRRRRRRRR in the swing states.

If Harris's polling shows she's 5 points behind then when she "suddenly" wins in a massive landslide then more then a few eyebrows will be raised and shit might get serious. People would ask questions how a candidate so far behind won so many states in the middle of the night when Trump was ahead by a few 10's of K.

Buuuuut, if the polls show Harris in the lead comfortably and then the 3am ballot drops start hitting in the important districts and the MSM starting saying she won like everyone knew she would and blah blah blah suddenly the average Joe would just shrug his shoulders and go "oh well, it was good try Donny but I guess the people want Kamala" and that's that.

It's the narrative the MSM is crafting using the polls and not the polls themselves that bother us. Listen to how and what the MSM are saying. Listen to the story that the American people are being blasted with on all sides from the MSM, from social media and print media then wonder gee golly how can these outlets just lie like this.

They can lie like this because they know they can get away with it and that's why I'm a "doomer". Not that Trump won't win but because he's probably already lost unless something very serious changes very soon.

How many 10K 3am ballot drops that are 100% Harris will you need before you realize that your not fighting against Harris or the DNC but your fighting agaist the whole goddamn media and tech sphere elites who wants to crown her President for their own reasons and don't give a single shit how the voting goes.

Trump isn't fighting Harris or the DNC or the Democracts. He's fighting the US governmental beauracracy elites and it's propaganda arm and it's many, many, many, minions. That's the real campaign that need to be won and I don't think he can do it, I don't think anyone can do it as things stand right now.

 

[Vecr]

I think I read in a novel once that the Interstate system is wired with explosives in a lot of places to deny troop movement to hypothetical invaders. No idea if that's actually the case.

It's not. There were various cold war setups in places like Switzerland and Finland that either had staged explosives and pre-built boxes to put them in or explosives planted without the detonator, but I'm not sure if anyone strapped armed remote detonators to civil infrastructure as a long-term thing.

 

[Jaimas]

I don't think there are all that many candidates willing to take one for the team, go into an election which will be a guaranteed loss and destruction of their political career.

I think the number of willing candidates is 0 and that everyone asked responded something in line of "over my dead body I will run in this election".

Remember how they tried so hard to find someone/anyone other than Kamala, so much so that Obama refused to endorse here and all political hevyweights and megadonors on the left were speculating about who would be the nominee ?
Remember they were gonna have an open convention where there would be a lot of candidates and they would debate and then the convention would pick the candidate? Remember that? Why the change of plan? There were no candidates willing to participate?

But then at the end of the day Kamala was chosen.
Because there was no one else. Everyone else said "over my dead body".

The implication was that she was always going to be a longshot, but it increasingly looks like she's going to be a sacrficial candidate.

 

[Kuritan Deplorable]

It's not. There were various cold war setups in places like Switzerland and Finland that either had staged explosives and pre-built boxes to put them in or explosives planted without the detonator, but I'm not sure if anyone strapped armed remote detonators to civil infrastructure as a long-term thing.

Yea, there'd be no point on the US mainland. Any situation that could have theoretically lead to a large scale invasion of the US homeland would almost certainly have already involved major nuclear exchange in the cold war era. In the modern era, who'd even be capable of supplying a land invasion of the US, much less pulling it off without getting glassed at sea on the way.

It'd be equally pointless in a civil conflict scenario, as you'd have no guarantee of who'd end up in control of those demolition devices, nor would you even want to cut them off - Blowing roads inhibits mobility both ways, and you don't stop a breakaway by sealing them in and your troops outside. So you either remain in control of devices you don't want to detonate, or give the other guys the ability to cut off your avenues of advance. Not a good plan either way.

 

[TheClappening]

The reason for this, ironically, is that the 2025 stuff was mostly going -well- with the voting base, even Democrat ones like blacks and hispanics. Largely the more religious elements were written off as "Not going to happen, because -Trump-.". Ironically all their effort to try to drive a wedge between Trump and the religious right actually immunized him from the possible backlash of the more extreme elements of 2025.

It's funny, my mom seems very solidly Trump, and I would consider her mostly a religious conservative, i.e. moral issues like gay marriage, abortion, kinda-sorta tranny issues being foremost in her brain. You'd think an orange man who's banged multiple women, including a porn star, would be a turn off to her, but no, she's still on the Trump train.

 

[StarkRavingMad]

It's funny, my mom seems very solidly Trump, and I would consider her mostly a religious conservative, i.e. moral issues like gay marriage, abortion, kinda-sorta tranny issues being foremost in her brain. You'd think an orange man who's banged multiple women, including a porn star, would be a turn off to her, but no, she's still on the Trump train.

Maybe it's because banging a porn star isn't nearly as bad as supporting the grooming and mutilation of children or infanticide.

 

[Larry David's Opera Cape]

I can't verify any of this but someone on Twitter said a Chicago police source told them pallets of bricks have been showing up along the planned protest route during the DNC. So take it with a grain of salt but it wouldn't surprise me.
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original reporting comes from Chicago contrarian who has ins with the cpd and is well regarded by other chicago reporters lke heyjackass, cwb chicago and second city cop.

https://x.com/ChicagoContrar1/status/1824978920426426813

the picture is unsubstantiated.

Whatever the case, the above photo is Tineye positive, dating back to summer of 2020:

 

[Whoopsie Daisy]

Americans:

Help a fellow Brit out by explaining the rules of nominees at the DNC. Is it possible that whomever votes/calls the shots could nominate someone other than Kamala and Walz?

If so:

1) Who would it be?
2) How would Kamala, the VP and defacto president react? Could she step down as VP and drop Biden in the shit?

 

[draggs]

We Doomer's are not upset about the Polls.

We know, you're upset that not enough people agree with you and won't... something... idk. Something lame and silly

 

[clipartfan92]

Breaking news! Interesting that they don't attribute these articles to any particular staff writer.

Trump again decries two gold medalist Olympic athletes, falsely labeling the female boxers as men
Associated Press (archive.ph)
By Associated Press Staff
2024-08-18 08:12:35GMT

Spoiler

WASHINGTON (AP) — Former President Donald Trump on Saturday again decried two gold medalist Olympic athletes, falsely labeling the female boxers as men.

Trump made the comments while speaking at a campaign rally in Pennsylvania and pledging to “keep men out of women’s sports,” turned his attention to the recently concluded Olympic Games and the case of two athletes who became the subject of international scrutiny regarding misconceptions about their gender.

Trump has long criticized transgender people as part of his rallies and focused specifically on transgender athletes, using language about gender identity that LGBTQ+ advocates say is wrong and harmful.

In the case of the two boxers, both Imane Khelif of Algeria and Li Yu-ting of Taiwan have faced misconceptions about their gender created by the fallout from the Olympic-banished International Boxing Association’s decision last year to disqualify both fighters from the world championships for allegedly failing an eligibility test.

Trump did not mention the athletes by name but remarked that “in the Olympics, they had two transitioned.”

“They were men. They transitioned to women, and they were in the boxing,” Trump said.

Despite being born and raised as women, Khelif and Lin found themselves in the crosshairs of Western debates about gender, sex and sports after failing the unspecified and untransparent eligibility tests for women’s competition from the now-banned International Boxing Association.

Trump and other prominent figures have complained about Khelif being allowed to compete and Trump has previously referred to Khelif as a man.

On Saturday, he did so again and in describing both athletes competing in the games as “crazy” and said, “It’s so demeaning to women.”

 

[Jaimas]

Americans:

Help a fellow Brit out by explaining the rules of nominees at the DNC. Is it possible that whomever votes/calls the shots could nominate someone other than Kamala and Walz?

If so:

1) Who would it be?
2) How would Kamala, the VP and defacto president react? Could she step down as VP and drop Biden in the shit?

On paper, yes. The thing is, Kamala was not a choice they made lightly, the DNC only chose her because that was the only candidate that would let them keep the funds already donated to Biden's campaign, since Kamala was part of it. If they had gone with a better choice, they would have lost all that money and there goes a sizable chunk of their marketing budget. Of their available options, Kamala was, the favored in a choice of damnations - choose her as a candidate, potentially keep the funds. Choose someone else, potentially do better, but lose all that money at a time when your ad blitz is pretty much the only thing you have to push your candidate at this point. Fucked if they do, fucked if they don't.

The problem is that Kamala has gone rogue, and now they have an even worse decision: Stick with her despite knowing her policies are absolute cancer, or cut their losses and try to salvage something for the long game. I imagine they feel very similar to what the RNC felt in 2008.

So yes, in theory, they could choose someone else, as party bigwigs ultimately always have the final say in the DNC (this is why meaningful change can never come from the left in the USA at the grassroots level - not for lack of will, the Dems want better as much as the Repubs have, but if they do have a populist upswell the DNC can literally just say "lol no" and override the electorate. Ultimately the DNC has no actual respect for consent of the governed, exactly as you'd expect). The problem is that they already very publicly formalized this long before the nomination was made official (which it will be tomorrow), and spent quite a bit of political capital on forcing the rest of the party to get in line. This included muscling the other subfactions of the left, many of whom fucking can't stand Kamala or the subfaction she represents, into compliance.

They're having a lot of buyer's remorse now, and there ain't shit they can do about it.

 

[Gehenna]

The problem is that they already very publicly formalized this long before the nomination was made official (which it will be tomorrow), and spent quite a bit of political capital on forcing the rest of the party to get in line.

The best part if this is that Harris waited until they did their quiet nomination of her before she began spouting the commie shit. Give her this, she may be a dumb bitch but she played the DNC for chumps there. Waited until there was no going back before she went rogue.

 

[Harambe]

its been mentioned before but the DNC gameplanned west coast secession in the event of a trump win in 2020. Hopefully they actually do it and Trump calls their bluff and lets them go. The US immediately becomes a right wing country and the west coast falls into 3rd world chaos. Give it a few years and they beg to be let back in.

When and where did you see their game plan for a civil war?

I’d rather be left wing and rich and control tech and media as a nation than just being poor and fat, I hope those stupid faggots don’t ruin everything somehow by seceding

Trump isn't fighting Harris or the DNC or the Democracts. He's fighting the US governmental beauracracy elites and it's propaganda arm and it's many, many, many, minions.

Consider whether someone should be the president if they cannot command the loyalty of the state or a bare majority of the population for any length of time, nor any fighting force for themselves. Does Trump have a constituency that’s useful politically?