US US Politics General - Discussion of President Biden and other politicians

 

[Sekirodiealot]

Dude, lay off the copium. in a lot of those states the rules got changed for the pandemic and then never changed. Mail in voting and other nonsense is here to stay. in most swing states if they had a dem governor and legislative branch after 2020 it’s basically jover. They don’t need another pandemic to change the rules, the rules have already been changed.

All of that is why I said Dems don't have a pandemic to rely on in the first place. I don't think those changes gonna help them. This ain't 2020.

 

[ClackAlAcka]

Since they barely won last time with rigging and covid blame games, I believe rigging alone will not be enough this time. If Kamala is only up +2 90 days later she's done. We all know this.

 

[Necrosan]

Shes ahead in the polls and in rigging. How is it lost? The only real question is the puppet master is having doubts the puppet will behave and are deciding if they can go into a Trump election backup plan of letting the economy explode and blaming it on populism and white people

So were Hillary and Biden before one lost and the other had to literally rely on printers going haywire in order to win. I get that TPTB can give people the feeling of being an omnipotent being but the fact that a senile man with dementia went on stage to embarrass himself and now their new pawn is an insufferable cunt that no one likes is a good sign that they aren't as clever and powerful as they think themselves to be.

 

[draggs]

Shes ahead in the polls and in rigging. How is it lost? The only real question is the puppet master is having doubts the puppet will behave and are deciding if they can go into a Trump election backup plan of letting the economy explode and blaming it on populism and white people

Buzzkills get kicked outta the rotation

 

[clipartfan92]

Protesters paused to consider opposing Harris at the DNC. They decided on full steam ahead.
Politico (archive.ph)
By Shia Kapos
2024-08-18 11:00:00GMT

Spoiler

CHICAGO — There was a moment after Vice President Kamala Harris was tapped to run for president, when pro-Palestinian activists prepping massive demonstrations at the Democratic National Convention paused to rethink their approach.

The main organization corralling more than 200 groups to protest at the convention, March on the DNC 2024, met for about half an hour the day Harris announced her candidacy. The meeting was to consider whether to move forward with the same confrontational approach they had aimed at President Joe Biden, who they dubbed “Genocide Joe” for his policies on Israel.

Harris, despite being part of the Biden administration, was seen by some as being more sympathetic to the pro-Palestinian cause and made a forceful case for a cease-fire deal after meeting with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netantyahu.

“We all came to a consensus that it’s not going to make a difference, that [Harris] represents this administration,” said Hatem Abudayyeh, chair of the U.S. Palestinian Community Network. “We’re going to stay full steam ahead.”

And he noted, his organization referred to Harris as “Killer Kamala” even before she topped the ticket and continues to push for harsher restrictions on the Israeli government, like an arms embargo — something that a top Harris adviser has said she doesn’t support.

There are at least six major protests planned on the streets of Chicago during the Democratic National Convention. The biggest is planned for the first day, Monday, when “tens of thousands” are expected to march just blocks from the United Center, where Harris and her running mate, Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz, will give their acceptance speeches.

The “family-friendly march” is organized under a pro-Palestinian umbrella coalition that includes groups devoted to a variety of causes. Organizers are busing in protesters from Michigan, Minnesota, Indiana and Wisconsin, and activists are also coming in from New York and California, too.

The switch-up at the top of the Democratic ticket prompted a conversation in the pro-Palestinian movement about its tactics. The Democratic National Convention in Chicago was widely perceived to be its biggest stage upon which to argue that the U.S. should change its policies toward Israel. But Harris, who called for a cease-fire earlier than some others in the party, made some activists wonder about taking a softer approach with the new Democratic nominee.

“There is admittedly a change of tone and for many, a sense of a breath of fresh air,” said Linda Loew, an organizer for Bodies Outside of Unjust Laws coalition, which has more than 40 organizations endorsing a march in Chicago on Sunday ahead of the convention. But “rhetoric and promises are simply not enough. We certainly are glad and welcome the support of any and all Democrats who say that they’re for any of these issues, but we need to see action.”

But for the activists organizing for the convention, any hesitation about whether to be disruptive diminished soon after Harris confronted protesters at a rally in Michigan on her battleground state tour with her new vice presidential nominee.

“Everyone’s voice matters, but I am speaking now. I am speaking now,” she said to pro-Palestinian demonstrators who interrupted her address.

The interaction is fueling the pro-Palestinian protesters as they gear up for the convention.

“After she yelled at protesters, the blush started to come off the rose,” said Joe Iosbaker, a protest organizer and a member of the Chicago Alliance Against Racist and Political Oppression. The group has been behind 48 protests in Chicago, nearly one every week, since the Oct. 7 attack on Israel that erupted in the war in Gaza.

Now pro-Palestinian protesters are planning to come out in full force this week in Chicago.

“Don’t fall for the wolf in sheep’s clothing,” said Andy Thayer, who is a longtime progressive organizer and a leader of a protest scheduled for Sunday. “Harris has made it clear that she is standing behind Israel 100 percent and is not going to stop the flow of arms to Israel.”

The Harris team acknowledged the protests will go on as planned and reiterated her position on the Israel-Hamas war.

“The vice president believes making your voice heard and participating in our democracy is fundamental to who we are as Americans,” Harris campaign spokesperson Lauren Hitt told POLITICO. “Vice President Harris supports the deals currently on the table for a permanent ceasefire in Gaza and for the release of hostages.”

Harris may also face sporadic protests inside the arena where she will make her televised acceptance speech on Thursday. About 30 delegates who represent the “uncommitted” vote in the primary which activists used as a means of protesting Biden’s policies on Israel will attend.

Convention organizers have said they will respect voices speaking out at the convention and are prepared for disruptions inside the arena, though delegates who wave their own signs might be asked to lower them. They emphasized that protesters make up a small portion of the nearly 5,000 credentialed delegates.

“Thousands of Democrats from all across the country are showing up here in Chicago to rally behind the Harris-Walz nomination because they believe in the vision of hope and progress this ticket represents,” said convention spokesperson Emily Soong. “We support law enforcement’s efforts to protect the right to peaceful protest while not allowing any violence.”

Outside of the arena, veteran protesters and police both say they’re ready for anything. Chicago Police Superintendent Larry Snelling, who led police training ahead of the 2012 NATO Summit in Chicago, said he’s confident that convention demonstrations will be held in check.

Handling the NATO protest “was successful,” he said, “but we’re also looking at where we could have done things better. We’ve improved upon some things. We’ve given our people training that they need.”

 

[0713]

I'm not saying it's hardly I've seen what happens to reddit gooners. I'm saying the idea that watching a porno leads directly to becoming a serial rapist is alarmist nonsense.

Pretty sure people were saying the opposite of that. I think you misunderstood.

 

[namelesstacotruck]

So were Hillary and Biden before one lost and the other had to literally rely on printers going haywire in order to win. I get that TPTB can give people the feeling of being an omnipotent being but the fact that a senile man with dementia went on stage to embarrass himself and now their new pawn is an insufferable cunt that no one likes is a good sign that they aren't as clever and powerful as they think themselves to be.

I plan on voting Trump.

But i am unconvinced there will be any backlash if they dump 200k mail in ballots in Pennsylvania and Arizona. And they know it now and have precedent on their side with 2020. Things are bad but not that bad. Hillary didnt have that tool.

The consequences will be the Brazillification of the US, as white people who are the only ones who keep the system running disengage.

Saying "its in the bag" is false confidence. The debate is not gonna go like the Biden one. Even if the media turns ABC wont. They cannot let Republicans get the executive with the amount of bullshit Disney is looking at. The sentencing will be what the DNC anaylzes is most beneficial to them. And thats one of the most critical stages.

Trump going to prison is a coinflip. The law and order faggots may turn the Rinos who were brought in line after the assasination will get back out of line and Trump wont be able to give instructions for counter plays.

On the other hand it used to he Americans fucking hate being told what they can or cant do. But covid has shown how many are cattle now.

 

[Brenda Holiday]

https://independentpoliticalreport.com/2024/08/jill-stein-announces-butch-ware-as-vice-presidential-running-mate/

Jill Stein.........hey, where's that money you grifted to use for a recount in 2016?

 

[The Taco Santo!]

bsolutely. For a few decades a hundred years ago there was this place called the Soviet Union. When the founder ((((((Lenin)))))) died, his successor was this guy named Stalin. Stalin used the State and police to control and terrorize his population, and did things like public execution of family members.

(((Lenin))) did the same things, just more selectively, not at an industrial rate like Stalin. But it cracks me up to see ignorant Commies blame all of the USSR's sins on Stalin, just shows how little they know about history. Still less annoying than the morons who excuse Stalinism, and say that the gulag system and the Great Terror never existed and were Western lies, or worse, that they existed but were really nice places and necessary actions, as though most of the inmates and victims were not, themselves, devout Marxists and Stalinists who had been arrested for such terrible crimes as telling a joke, or because someone came up with a false allegation out of personal reasons or thought that they could gain something, or from being named in a false confession beaten out of someone else picked up on nonsense who thought they could save themselves by naming you, or for no reason at all when the NKVD had a quota to fill and you happened to be out on the street when they came by.

 

[Nate Scully 025]

My thoughts on any potential ‘fortification’ is that the mass media flipping on Kamala is a sign that even if they attempt it, it won’t get swept under the rug this time. If the media really has turned on her, be that because she pissed off the right/wrong people or said the quiet parts out loud, then any fortification attempts are a hell of a lot less likely to get smoothed over. That doesn’t mean they won’t try, and doesn’t even mean they won’t succeed… but it isn’t a good sign for them trying to go 110% in some districts. That’s one of the reasons the Dems need as much of the media in their pocket as possible, so there’s as little attention on anything fucky as possible.

Again, not impossible, but if Kamala hiding from any interviews or questioning and acting like an out and out commie ends up fucking over any cheating attempts I’ll laugh my fucking ass off.

 

[Justsomecicada]

(((Lenin))) did the same things, just more selectively, not at an industrial rate like Stalin. But it cracks me up to see ignorant Commies blame all of the USSR's sins on Stalin, just shows how little they know about history. Still less annoying than the morons who excuse Stalinism, and say that the gulag system and the Great Terror never existed and were Western lies, or worse, that they existed but were really nice places and necessary actions, as though most of the inmates and victims were not, themselves, devout Marxists and Stalinists who had been arrested for such terrible crimes as telling a joke, or because someone came up with a false allegation out of personal reasons or thought that they could gain something, or from being named in a false confession beaten out of someone else picked up on nonsense who thought they could save themselves by naming you, or for no reason at all when the NKVD had a quota to fill and you happened to be out on the street when they came by.

Part of the reason that myth is so prevalent is because it was the party line after de-Stalinization. Gorbachev for example legitimately thought what he was doing was orthodox Marxist-Leninism even tho Lenin would have had him shot. Gorbechev was part of a generation that legitimately believed Lenin wanted a democratic country, because that’s what the state told them. The difference between them and their elders is they were dumb enough to believe it. It’s partially because so much of that part of their own history was kept from them, part naivety

 

[Collections Agent]

It's funny, my mom seems very solidly Trump, and I would consider her mostly a religious conservative, i.e. moral issues like gay marriage, abortion, kinda-sorta tranny issues being foremost in her brain. You'd think an orange man who's banged multiple women, including a porn star, would be a turn off to her, but no, she's still on the Trump train.

Kamala literally fucked her way to the top lmao

 

[Whoopsie Daisy]

@Jaimas and @BigGuyOS 6 : Jovial Janny

That means it's Kamala locked in and she's going to crash purge the DNC with no survivors? What a fun timeline.

Lenin was forced to allow the rich and wealthy to continue being rich and wealthy and bathing in the capitalist system to do so, while he preached communism to the masses. Had he forced communism on the rich - and they hadn't had him killed the second he tried to, then maybe things would have been different. If nothing else, he would have had a few more quid to burn before the country starved.

 

[Justsomecicada]

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Lenin was forced to allow the rich and wealthy to continue being rich and wealthy and bathing in the capitalist system to do so, while he preached communism to the masses. Had he forced communism on the rich - and they hadn't had him killed the second he tried to, then maybe things would have been different. If nothing else, he would have had a few more quid to burn before the country starved.

How did they have him killed? He died of having strokes. I think you need to take your meds, literally nothing you said here was coherent. Who were these supposed rich men pulling on his strings? You do understand the new economic policy was tried AFTER already forcing communism on the rich right?. There were noveau party rich as a result of this but the traditional upper class was completely liquidated for the most part. I can recommend you some books on the subject if you want?

 

[tehpope]

https://www.thetimes.com/world/us-world/article/us-election-war-game-sees-states-ready-to-secede-if-trump-is-sworn-in-zmzddmf9k

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/08/06/election-2020-war-games-trump-vs-biden-race-show-risk-chaos/5526553002/

As a fun bonus

The Secret History of the Shadow Campaign That Saved the 2020 Election

For more than a year, a loosely organized coalition of operatives scrambled to shore up America’s institutions

time.com

Tldr: John podesta and other DNC ghouls wargamed the 2020 election and predicted they would push the west coast to secede if they lost

Here's the report outlining it.

 

[Seventh Star]

It’s partially because so much of that part of their own history was kept from them, part naivety

It might also have to do with the fact Gorbachev was the only one actually born in the Soviet Union while the rest were mummies from the time of the Russian Empire.

 

[Justsomecicada]

It might also have to do with the fact Gorbachev was the only one actually born in the Soviet Union while the rest were mummies from the time of the Russian Empire.

That’s exactly what I am saying, because he grew up in the Soviet system he legitimately believed the propaganda about decentralization and democracy. Previous generations knew it was window dressing, he did not. I think the current elite is slowly going through the same process, with much democracy and diversity. Maybe 40 years ago it was window dressing, but now we are dealing with true believers. One of the issues with building a society on lies is eventually a generation will come that believes the lie earnestly and forgets the original purpose of it.

 

[STARS158]

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Mmm...she looked more nigger than she is.

 

[0713]

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