I would really hope that they are not implying this. And despite being in this thread often. I'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt until this is made obvious that this is them shitting on IVF families and not them shitting on childless-by-choice-couples.
Both are awful things to believe, but one is significantly worse.
I am going to powerlevel a bit. I work in the medical field and ever since Roe v. Waid was reversed, it has been a daily effort for me to work with people to ensure they can have families through IVF by helping navigate the new beurocratic red tape and making sure the progress they have made before the reversal quite literally die.
I also want to point out how absolutely retarded and how much of a self-own it would be on upper-middleclass whites in particular as they use IVF a commanding majority more than any other ethnicity due to Caucasians having more issues with conceiving on average. You know, that class of people that make up their base.
I'm not saying it's not possible. I'm just saying that's really fuckin' stupid. I know that MAGA types are stupid but they're not that stupid......Are they?
I believe they are implying this and they'll openly say it soon. They tend to have a hard time keeping their true beliefs to themselves. They also weirdly support removing things that benefit and help them, such as IVF.
From a NY times article published on 8 Aug 2024:
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“I expect there will be steps backwards as well as what we are working toward, which are long strikes forward,” said R. Albert Mohler Jr., president of the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary in Louisville, Ky., who has been newly mobilizing evangelicals against I.V.F.
Some of this groundwork is easy to notice. Mr. Mohler helped lead a successful campaign in June to get the Southern Baptist Convention, the country’s largest Protestant denomination,
to oppose the use of I.V.F. for the first time, even though the procedure is widely popular among evangelical families. The vote served to redirect the abortion conversation within evangelical churches to fertility treatments, and to give ardent I.V.F. opponents a new data point to prove to Republican politicians that their key voters could support efforts against I.V.F.
Demographics of the Southern Baptist Convention:
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85% white
32% earn less than $30,000/year.
22% earn $30,000-$49,999/year.
31% earn $50,000-$99,999
16% earn $100,000 or more
Parent of children under 18 among members of the Southern Baptist Convention:
26% parents
74% non-parents
(No data given for parents of 18+ kids, as far as I could tell. That would be higher as older people tend to have older children.)
Article from Baptist News from 24 January 2024 in support of Trump:
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1 against:
Not all evangelicals currently support Trump. Iowa evangelical leader Bob Vander Plaats, who voted for Trump in 2016 and 2020, endorsed Ron DeSantis in the Iowa caucuses. And Franklin Graham, who has called Trump “one of the great presidents” and embraced Trump’s claims of election fraud, says he won’t endorse a candidate during the primaries.
Some for:
“Our aim is to continue to build the relationship between Christian leaders and President Trump during his bid for the presidency,” says the
Pastors4Trump website. “There has been no president in our lifetime that has been as welcoming to Christian leaders as Donald Trump.”
Other
MAGA pastors backing Trump include Jentezen Franklin, Greg Locke, Mark Burns, Darrell C. Scott, “worship warrior” Sean Feucht, and Samuel Rodriguez, founder and president of the
National Hispanic Christian Leadership Conference.
Eric Metaxas, a Christian radio host who followed his scorned biography of Bonhoeffer with two children’s books about Trump, attended Trump’s 2024 campaign announcement and says he gets “
choked up thinking how good things were under Trump. MAGA!”
“Trump prophet” Lance Wallnau and Turning Point USA President Charlie Kirk have
partnered to mobilize swing-state churches for Trump.
White Americans from all classes support Trump and like you said, those are the main demographics who use IVF but are against keeping it around.
I don't post here, only lurk so if this counts as sperging please let me know. I just thought some additional information would be useful.
