US US Politics General - Discussion of President Biden and other politicians

 

[invisibult plus+]

FYI, there are caucus meetings and other programming going on throughout the DNC, much of which is livestreamed:

https://demconvention.com/schedule/

https://www.youtube.com/@TheDemocrats/streams

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No caucus for you whyt boi.

 

[Bland Crumbs]

FYI, there are caucus meetings and other programming going on throughout the DNC, much of which is livestreamed:

https://demconvention.com/schedule/

https://www.youtube.com/@TheDemocrats/streams

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Of course, they have drag queens:
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They have less viewers than Josh...Geez even Ralph beats some of them.

 

[Justsomecicada]

I can’t speak for Muslims, but for white liberals I just can’t see it tbh it’s like that post Earlier in the thread about Bernie bros. Maybe some far left types will but among normal libtards I’ve never heard anything like that. It’s just muh project 2025. On the news the other night they had some lefty saying he won’t vote for Kamala cause she is too rough on the border lmao, the guy was a DSA nutter tho so not exactly a mainstream opinion.

Speaking of the DSA, the Marxist-Leninist faction took over in 2023. So they are just full blown commies now

“At the 2023 DSA National Convention, and marxist and revolutionary socialist factions won a majority of seats on the DSA's 2023-2025 National Political Committee”

https://seattledsa.org/2023/08/__trashed/

https://rupture.ie/articles/reform-and-revolution-new-hope-for-dsa-with-a-shift-to-the-left

 

[0713]

There's no Obama 2.0 in the party. Obama was the absolute best of the colored politicians. Most of the rest of them are either too stupid or too brazenly corrupt to do what he did.

Just like Michael Jackson.

I feel really lucky to have lived during the same as such a true legend (MJ, not Obama).

 

[Hey Johnny Bravo]

I'm not saying the party will actually cease to exist but they might have to do a giant restructuring. The DNC legit seems to be fucking handicapped at the moment.

If Trump wins this election, I expect the Democratic Party to have some serious restructuring.

I can’t speak for Muslims, but for white liberals I just can’t see it tbh it’s like that post Earlier in the thread about Bernie bros. Maybe some far left types will but among normal libtards I’ve never heard anything like that. It’s just muh project 2025. On the news the other night they had some lefty saying he won’t vote for Kamala cause she is too rough on the border lmao, the guy was a DSA nutter tho so not exactly a mainstream opinion.

I think the post you're referring to makes a very good point backed up by numbers, but my counter-argument is that liberals have become far more unhinged over the past 8 years. They are less willing to accept certain levels of humiliation from above, meaning they will throw a greater tantrum over the Israel-Palestine issue than they would have over Bernie Sanders in 2016.

This election is likely to be extremely tight - a couple thousand votes will make or break battleground states. Even a few hundred people sitting out or doing a protest write-in makes a difference.

Also: DSA is, and always has been, a commie organization.

 

[tehpope]

https://x.com/TrumpWarRoom/status/1825581140511445320

NEW: U-Haul moving trucks are parked outside of the White House today — hours before Biden's planned "farewell" address to the DNC.

Are they finally giving Biden the permanent boot?

No. Its one uhaul truck. It doesn't even look to be their largest. You would assume if Biden is moving out of the WH, they would have a fleet of trucks protected by USSS. Not just a single Uhaul.

Can anyone find what time Obama's speech is supposed to be tonight? I want to watch it, but I can't find any info other than that it's on tonight.

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/dnc-kicks-day-1-pandering-protests-potus

Per this, Obama is speaking tomorrow night.

 

[Jade Philosophies]

Several leaders are laying these stickers on the street.

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Button on several of the marchers. A bit on the nose, tbh.
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Someone on the Farms mentioned the Ukraine isn't brown and or muslim enough to be cared about by the far left, they're probably right. Ukraine was probably just flavor of the month horror until a more glamorous and 'correct' tragedy was there to be protested.

I think the words are 'hypocritical' and 'performative.' But it could just be a case of people not having the attention span to focus on two wars at a time. That, or they're not worried about things because Russia keeps fumbling the ball so much. Who knows? I don't!

Some on the left just refuse to support Ukraine due to the rampant literal nazism and the fact that Zelensky supports Stepan Bandera, who among other things created the Ukrainian National Committee with the Nazis during WW2 which was basically the Nazi government in Ukraine (although it only lasted a couple of months as it was created just before the end of the war) and calls him a hero.

what do you think "porn" mean back when he was interviewed dude? Also what possible porn was there back in the 50s?

Google 1950s porn.

I've been avoiding this subject cause it's like the loli shit only even worse, but the shit MJ had was either one of two things -- Magazines the nudist groups put out (like the American Association for Nude Recreation or The Naturist Society), or some arty farty shit like Jock Sturges's infamous photography books. Neither would be porn, and in fact I believe you can buy both of them on Amazon and eBay today... but I'd never even look them up without being on a vpn in the US. Guaranteed to get you on a list.

The "nudist loophole" was used in the 50s to make nudity in film ok -- some film was put out by a nudist colony at a nudist colony, and a state forced theaters to not show it, so they sued and won. "Nudity is not inherently obscene." If you remember "Lets go Sunning" from the Fallout 3 soundtrack, it was the title song from that film. That's why you had all kinds of 50s and 60s films that took place on or near nudist colonies -- because that was the loophole that let them show some titties. By the late 60s or 70s it wasn't needed anymore.

Similarly, the nudist colony periodicals would have photos of nudist colonies -- and the naked people visiting them. Same general loophole. "It's just naked people, they're not pornographic on their own." So this would also lead to lots of softcore nudie mags claiming to be nudist magazines back in the day, which would let them get away with things decades before Playboy and Hustler and the like solidified that particular market's legality.

Sturges did photo books of artistic nude photography at nudist colonies apparently, and focused on families... and especially on kids. I'd say that doesn't mean anything but he was apparently accused of being / outed as being a child molester in 2021, so fuck him and fuck his fans. But back in MJ's time he was a pretty Avant-garde photographer especially amongst the Hollywood elite and a lot of his photos have been used in album covers and the like.
So, if it was Sturges books, it wouldn't be unheard of during the era, he was pretty popular amongst Hollywood. If it were nudie mags, it could be anything from the nudist colony periodicals (which are nothing worth talking about) to the magazine version of softcore films from the 60s or beyond.

Michael Jackson had something like 10,000 books and thousands of magazines of all kinds. (I'm talking about just regular books and magazines.) Among all those they only found 2 that had naked boys in them. Both of them were gifts from a FEMALE fan called Rhonda, who wrote in them the usual little message someone writes in a gifted book and nothing salacious, and they were a book about the making of The Lord Of The Flies and a book about boyhood that included photos of skinny-dipping and stuff. The only other book they found that people desperately try to use to smear MJ was another gifted book from a photographer, who happened to be homosexual, that included some homoerotic photos of naked MEN. As far as porn goes, ALL of the porn they found was legal HETEROSEXUAL porn. There's so much evidence Michael Jackson was heterosexual. For example he was deeply in love with Brooke Shields and desperately wanted to marry her and asked her numerous times while they were dating. Also, he was somewhat of a devout Christian and refused to have sex before he was married. (Although there is the rumour about Omer Bhatti being his lovechld from before he was married. I mean serious rumour, not the other nonsense rumours of various people claiming to be or being claimed to be MJ's lovechildren.)

another photo of Thomas Matthew Crooks has been released. other than being an action shot of him coordinating with his government handler, nothing too spectacular except for his slenderman-ish arms and pronounced tranny hunch on display

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Where the fuck are these photos from??

Barron looks based as fuck. I hope he gets a nice Anglo Saxon blond girl.

He should try to seduce Taylor Swift. If they became a couple the leftards would lose their fucking minds!

 

[HOMO FOR LIFE RETURNS]

FYI, there are caucus meetings and other programming going on throughout the DNC, much of which is livestreamed:

https://demconvention.com/schedule/

https://www.youtube.com/@TheDemocrats/streams

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Of course, they have drag queens:
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They should have drag queen speak. Oh god pls.

 

[XYZpdq Jr.]

Not just a single Uhaul.

that's for the new round of classified documents heading to their next suburban garage

 

[Larry David's Opera Cape]

Happening imminent:

https://x.com/TPostMillennial/status/1825604677892788625

https://x.com/FordFischer/status/1825589587428913338

 

[behavioral swamp thang]

All of the DNC videos the chat is disabled
March on DNC 2024 has chat.

 

[Justsomecicada]

Also: DSA is, and always has been, a commie organization.

Oh yeah I wasn’t trying to suggest otherwise, I’m just saying it’s got a lot more extreme.

 

[Jade Philosophies]

Is that Sam Hyde?

Yes. He went to some college event or something a few years ago and just read out documented facts about homosexuality, lol!

 

[Alter Ego]

Speaking of the DSA, the Marxist-Leninist faction took over in 2023. So they are just full blown commies now

“At the 2023 DSA National Convention, and marxist and revolutionary socialist factions won a majority of seats on the DSA's 2023-2025 National Political Committee”

https://seattledsa.org/2023/08/__trashed/

https://rupture.ie/articles/reform-and-revolution-new-hope-for-dsa-with-a-shift-to-the-left

How, pray tell, were they not full blown commies before? How is a "moderate" DSA fundamentally different from a "left" DSA?

 

[Snack Cracker]

So I'm just catching up but is the DNC just like 12 different hyper autistic protest groups trying to scream over each other?

It is, and it’s beautiful.

No longer have a dog in the fight in any of that leftist protesting shit, it’s so much easier to be on the side of truth and beauty and morality instead of this bullshit.

They didn’t do it outside the RNC because they know no one would tolerate it, fed or civilian.
They scheduled it for the DNC for a reason.

And short of Kamala booting everyone in Israel to…..somewhere and starting WW3, the Palestinian protest retards won’t be happy with anything she says or does.

The right seems pretty much united, the left is fracturing in many different ways, has been sometimes quietly and sometimes vocally.

Interfering with their own candidates convention though, good fucking job.
They’ll sure show those republicans!

 

[Dammit Mandrake!]

See the green hat?

That's a National Lawyer's Guild Legal Observer.

Bike lock the green hats.

Roger.

 

[Morethanabitfoolish]

Happening imminent:

With those numbers, limited support from the wider infrastructure like the media and the police likely with the same orders they were given when they cleared Lori's street? I doubt it.

I stand by my prior opinion. Without the usual free rein and backing they will be wrangled away from anything important and take out their aggression by screaming abuse at the police before going home and trying to pretend anyone relevant saw them or cared.

 

[Justsomecicada]

How, pray tell, were they not full blown commies before? How is a "moderate" DSA fundamentally different from a "left" DSA?

Opinions on tactics and dogma. There is def a difference between a Bernie bro or AOC supporter and a full blown Maoist or anarchist.

https://theprincetonprogressive.com/an-introduction-to-the-internal-politics-of-dsa/

The major difference is on the Democratic Party and how to use it

1. The right wing of the party wants to just make the democrats more left

2. The center wants to support democrats in most cases and in safe seats run DSA candidates eventually

3. The left wants to run third party.

The left and center won the 2023 elections

I can’t go into anymore detail without shitting up the thread with breakdowns of socialism and it’s various sects

 

[0713]

With those numbers, limited support from the wider infrastructure like the media and the police likely with the same orders they were given when they cleared Lori's street? I doubt it.

I stand by my prior opinion. Without the usual free rein and backing they will be wrangled away from anything important, take out their aggression by screaming abuse at the police before going home and trying to pretend anyone relevant saw them or cared.

I don't know, man. Those Muslims people are some really, truly crazy psychos. If it was any other group I would agree with you.

 

[Larry David's Opera Cape]

https://x.com/realchrisrufo/status/1825602982391734361

Wow: The Free Beacon dug up this old news article in which Tim Walz defines "communism" as a system in which "everyone is the same and everyone shares." He praised the CCP for providing "food and housing" rations. A real-life communism respecter. https://freebeacon.com/elections/walz-praised-chinese-communism-as-a-system-where-everyone-shares/

As a high school teacher in the 1990s, Democratic vice presidential candidate and Minnesota governor Tim Walz appeared to extol life under Chinese communism, telling his students that it is a system in which "everyone shares" and gets free food and housing.

"It means that everyone is the same and everyone shares," Walz said during a lesson on China's communist system in November 1991. "The doctor and the construction worker make the same. The Chinese government and the place they work for provide housing and 14 kg or about 30 pounds of rice per month. They get food and housing."

Walz's remarks were reported in a 1991 article in Nebraska's Alliance Times-Herald that focused on his work on student exchange programs in China. At the time, Walz was teaching social studies at a Nebraska high school.


The unearthed comments could add to concerns about the Democratic vice presidential candidate's relationship with China, where he traveled extensively for decades and which he says he doesn't see as an adversary.

Michael Sobolik, a China expert and the author of Countering China's Great Game, said Walz's comments to students were a "shockingly naïve description of the Chinese Communist Party's rule."

"American students need to learn the horrific truths of communism and the horrors this dangerous ideology has wrought over the past century," said Sobolik. "Gov. Walz should clarify his comments and share his impression of communism in 2024."

Walz's rosy description of communism in China is similar to his recent controversial remark that "one person's socialism is another person's neighborliness." It also reflects his longstanding ties to the country.

The candidate "always has been fascinated by Communist China," according to a profile about him published in Nebraska's Star-Herald in 1994. As a child, he recalled seeing "pictures of Mao Tse-tung, hung in public places and carried in parades," the paper reported.

Walz first traveled to China on a year-long teaching fellowship in 1989, months after the Chinese Communist Party slaughtered thousands of pro-democracy activists and student protesters in Tiananmen Square.

Despite the country's turmoil, Walz—a 25-year-old National Guardsman at the time—wrote in a letter to one of his former college professors that he was "being treated like a king" in China.

In China, Walz said he received a salary that was double the pay of Chinese teachers, was given a decorated apartment with a color TV, and had the only air-conditioned residence on campus. He said he was also thrown parties on his birthday and Christmas.

"No matter how long I live, I'll never be treated that well again," he told the Times-Herald after arriving home. "They gave me more gifts than I could bring home. It was an excellent experience." A newspaper photo showed Walz posing with one of his gifts, a paper fan inscribed with a poem by the widow of Communist Party-allied revolutionary leader Sun Yat-sen.


After returning to the United States in the early 1990s, Walz started leading trips to China for American high school students, with support from the Chinese government. The trips were "arranged by a friend of Walz in China's foreign affairs department," the Star-Herald reported at the time. The Chinese government also provided some of the funding for the program, according to a 1993 article in the Star-Herald.

Walz and his wife Gwen held their wedding on the fifth anniversary of the Tiananmen Square massacre—with Gwen Walz saying her husband "wanted to have a date he'll always remember." The Walzes spent their honeymoon in China. They also founded a travel company, Educational Travel Adventures Inc., which specialized in trips to China.

Tim Walz maintained public ties to Chinese educational institutes until at least 2007, when he was elected to Congress. He was a visiting fellow at the Macau Polytechnic University until 2007, according to reports.



His connections to China have drawn scrutiny from Republican lawmakers. On Friday, House Oversight Committee chairman James Comer (R., Ky.) wrote in a letter to FBI director Christopher Wray that he is investigating Walz's "longstanding connections to [Chinese Communist Party]-connected entities and officials." Comer said Walz could be "susceptible to the Party's strategy of elite capture, which seeks to co-opt influential figures."

Walz has more recently promoted U.S. cooperation with China, saying in 2016 that he doesn't believe "that China necessarily needs to be [in] an adversarial relationship" with the United States. In another video unearthed by Republicans, Walz said he is "pretty friendly with China."