Russian Special Military Operation in the Ukraine - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

[Got Milk!]

I haven't seen this anywhere and it's just my speculation, but I think the civilians are going to be held for prisoner swaps. I read something a few months ago that Russia had 10x the number of POWs than Ukraine to trade.

And Ukraine won't trade them 1:1. They'll be traded 5:1 or maybe higher and Russia will be in a corner where they kinda have to give in.

 

[Sexual Chocolate]

I haven't seen this anywhere and it's just my speculation, but I think the civilians are going to be held for prisoner swaps. I read something a few months ago that Russia had 10x the number of POWs than Ukraine to trade.

And Ukraine won't trade them 1:1. They'll be traded 5:1 or maybe higher and Russia will be in a corner where they kinda have to give in.

Under the Geneva Convention it's a war crime to take civilian hostages.

Im not pro Russian. I follow this thread because I know Ukraine going to lose this war. It's obvious as plane as day.

Russia?

This here is Belarus Country, faggots.

 

[STARS158]

Reminder.... it's the Jews

https://x.com/ZvikaKlein/status/1499468374581129223

 

[Gog & Magog]

So how many of you will be taking up Putin's offer?

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2024/08/19/putin-signs-decree-granting-residency-to-foreigners-who-share-traditional-russian-values-a86074

 

[Feline Supremacist]

Under the Geneva Convention it's a war crime to take civilian hostages.

Neither country has declared war on the other, this will be their excuse. And the US/West will repeat this incessantly in the media when they are found murdered.

So how many of you will be taking up Putin's offer?

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2024/08/19/putin-signs-decree-granting-residency-to-foreigners-who-share-traditional-russian-values-a86074

It is currently against the law for US citizens to support the government of the Russia Federation in nearly every way, shape or form. As a US citizen I, as well as the other original/long term posters in this thread who are also US citizens, are law abiding citizens who do not advocate breaking the law, especially in reference to countries sanctioned by the US government.

The First Amendment to the US Constitution protects our right to state our opinion and disagree with the actions of the US government and their representatives, in whole or in part. If the opinions stated herein offend you perhaps you would be happier in the sister thread for those who support the Ukraine, here: https://kiwifarms.st/threads/ukrainian-defensive-war-against-the-russian-invasion.150025/

If you wish to debate this issue the proper thread is here: https://kiwifarms.st/forums/mass-debates.128/

Thanks for reading!

 

[Gog & Magog]

To my knowledge, Russian courts also don't let child rapists walk free because "it was just cultural differences" or "he had a sexual emergency".

I don't think Russia is that great an example of child safeguarding when they have yet to criminalize possession of child porn at the Federal level. Nearly all post-Soviet states share this bizarre feature, including Ukraine until fairly recently at the behest of their Western allies. I assume every oblast criminalizes possession, but it is strange the Assembly hasn't done the same.

As a US citizen I, as well as the other original/long tern posters in this thread who are also US citizens, are law abiding citizens who do not advocate breaking the law, especially in reference to countries sanctioned by the US government.

Traveling to Kazasktan and traveling across the border into Russia isn't illegal. Taking all your valuables with you isn't illegal either.

If the opinions stated herein offend you perhaps you would be happier in the sister thread for those who support the Ukraine, here: https://kiwifarms.st/threads/ukrainian-defensive-war-against-the-russian-invasion.150025/

But this thread is so much more fun though.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

Traveling to Kazasktan and traveling across the border into Russia isn't illegal. Taking all your valuables with you isn't illegal either.

I am not repeating the Gonzalo Lira experience with Eastern Slavs and I doubt the regulars here want to find out for themselves. The low IQ posters are all in the sister thread.

But this thread is so much more fun though.

Well, I will admit you are funny, albeit disingenuous.

 

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Patrick Lancaster Status: Not dead

RIP his hearing though.


Everyone riding on top of the BMP rather then in it. Slav as fuck

 

[Kuritan Deplorable]

Oh boy, sure sounds like the Kursk operation is going swimmingly!

I mean, that's probably their only choice at this point. Back to my Ardennes comparison, its the last ditch to turn the tide. Its entirely possible they see it just the same way, there's no point holding elite troops and material in reserve because if it fails, that's it, that's all she wrote. They breakout here and force Russia to adopt a defensive posture and take the incursion seriously, or they are condemned to a war of attrition they are guaranteed to lose.

Its a huge sunk cost fallacy on human life, but as far as the calculus of war is concerned, it makes about as much sense as most of Ukraine's moves.

I haven't seen this anywhere and it's just my speculation, but I think the civilians are going to be held for prisoner swaps. I read something a few months ago that Russia had 10x the number of POWs than Ukraine to trade.

And Ukraine won't trade them 1:1. They'll be traded 5:1 or maybe higher and Russia will be in a corner where they kinda have to give in.

Outside of the war crimes issues and whether anyone with the power to condemn them will even care about said war crimes, there's two issues. One, Russia isn't really forced to do anything, if Ukraine decides to hardball and kill the civilians that's going to be a step too far for all but the most insane supporters in the west. They can go fight and win the war, liberate their kidnapped countrymen, and quite possibly use the whole thing as a recruiting push - They literally kidnapped your families, join us to get them back.

Second Issue:

Russia's attitude towards hostage taking is notoriously "You will all die if you try, the hostages are a secondary concern". Widespread kidnapping of Russian civilians is likely to be a gloves off moment when it comes to hitting civilian infrastructure in Ukraine. If you want to treat civilians as valid military objects, they'll show you how its done.

 

[Shallow Wave]

I don't think Russia is that great an example of child safeguarding when they have yet to criminalize possession of child porn at the Federal level.

https://www.consultant.ru/document/cons_doc_LAW_10699/23ac064057d5bca235050872f65b23a1a1db092a/

????????

 

[prolapsed_cranium]

Patrick Lancaster Status: Not dead

He's going to get killed with all his excess armor.



Nightmare fuel

 

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Nightmare fuel

It could be worse. You could be killed via Discord.

The video PL posted before this last one is from their command post and you can see they use Discord to command and screen share with their drone operators.

 

[Betonhaus]

Russia's attitude towards hostage taking is notoriously "You will all die if you try, the hostages are a secondary concern". Widespread kidnapping of Russian civilians is likely to be a gloves off moment when it comes to hitting civilian infrastructure in Ukraine. If you want to treat civilians as valid military objects, they'll show you how its done

I suspect the difference being that while Ukraine is attacking civilians that have little control over things, Russia will attack infrastructure regularly used by the rich and millitary-adjacent.

 

[boofit]

I notice when the first sign of ZATO entering Russia occurred I wrote but did not post

"Either some force is projected or I'm starting to believe it's the WWII deal where behind the scenes us en Russia divided spheres of influence between them."

Not totally on the money but some weird dark shit is going on here I can't shake that feeling. Can't put my finger on it but where's the blow back. Where's the force.
Yes those incursionists are meeting their fate more or less and the operation continues to grind but how can the jew still be alive and in charge how can the capital the base of operations continue to function as such. They (Russia) can but they don't. Or can they. This does not seem like 4d chess to me. Or maybe I just lack the required level of civilization.

 

[Yak-130 Mitten]

I notice when the first sign of ZATO entering Russia occurred I wrote but did not post

"Either some force is projected or I'm starting to believe it's the WWII deal where behind the scenes us en Russia divided spheres of influence between them."

Not totally on the money but some weird dark shit is going on here I can't shake that feeling. Can't put my finger on it but where's the blow back. Where's the force.
Yes those incursionists are meeting their fate more or less and the operation continues to grind but how can the jew still be alive and in charge how can the capital the base of operations continue to function as such. They (Russia) can but they don't. Or can they. This does not seem like 4d chess to me. Or maybe I just lack the required level of civilization.

what the fuck are you even talking about

 

[boofit]

what the fuck are you even talking about

you don't know shit do you
can't blame the schools you have internet access you could and should have known
anyway what I'm saying is that deal might have been amended in some way
they US/Russia pretended to be enemies for decades

 

[Yak-130 Mitten]

you don't know shit do you
can't blame the schools you have internet access you could and should have known
anyway what I'm saying is that deal might have been amended in some way
they US/Russia pretended to be enemies for decades

No, I just dont take cryptic shit in my dreams as a source of useful information.

 

[Audit]

I notice when the first sign of ZATO entering Russia occurred I wrote but did not post

"Either some force is projected or I'm starting to believe it's the WWII deal where behind the scenes us en Russia divided spheres of influence between them."

Not totally on the money but some weird dark shit is going on here I can't shake that feeling. Can't put my finger on it but where's the blow back. Where's the force.
Yes those incursionists are meeting their fate more or less and the operation continues to grind but how can the jew still be alive and in charge how can the capital the base of operations continue to function as such. They (Russia) can but they don't. Or can they. This does not seem like 4d chess to me. Or maybe I just lack the required level of civilization.

You're overthinking this. It doesn't serve Russia to escalate this openly into WW3 by striking NATO directly. Carpet bombing Kiev is also an equally pointless waste of resources better spent leveling frontline positions. Any retribution will be carried out through intermediaries such as the Yemeni attacking US shipping in the Red sea. Zelensky is a puppet. No one wants him replaced. NATO needs someone to mindlessly genocide the nation of Ukraine, and Russia doesn't want to risk someone competent showing up who can make legit international deals that would complicate the war.

While embarrassing, it would be far more costly in resources to desperately try to defend every village than it is to abandon disadvantageous positions and attrite the UAF before retaking lost territory when it becomes convenient. The first territories that Russia can't permit to fall are the cities of Lgov and Rylsk. Expect these positions and their surroundings to be heavily fortified. As long as Ukraine spends its men and machines on invading the Russian countryside, the Donbass is left depleted and vulnerable. Niu York has already fallen to Russian advances, and Toretsk will likely follow. A breakthrough at Pokrovsk is coming within the next few months at the rate things are going.

 

[boofit]

@Audit

I seem to not be able to hit reply

Yes I was always thinking along those lines but I grew up in tail end of the cold war that turned out to be fake and there could be bigger picture here as well. Ofc it's jew shit so all you know for sure is white man gets fucked and thanks them for the privilege. It is all about appearances (or in the west it is anyway) and they look bad but maybe they are the more civilized. Maybe they do know restraint. Maybe they do manage their resources. Still it looks bad. I would surely hit the bolsjeviks that are trying to take over since early last century and are now within my borders everywhere I could.

 

[Wherethereisawhip]

I seem to not be able to hit reply

Just highlight the part of the text you want to reply to.