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Catching up on DNC day one and to all the people at the event who sperged out about trump's "abortion ban" - if you feel that strongly about it, and live in a state with abortion laws you don't like, then call your state reps and tell them that, then vote accordingly, and encourage others to do the same.
And if you feel the state won't flip to what you want due to demographics. And it's that much of an important issue for you, then move to a different state.
And if you know a woman in that position and you both feel strongly about it, help her move.
And if something happens, and for some reason after a rape you can't take plan B or it doesn't work, and there isn't a rape exception, then move to a state that does if you feel it's that important.

This is what states rights mean. It means big daddy government doesn't do everything for you, and if you feel strongly about something you can more easily force change as a voter, or you can go to a state that better suits what you find important. I know it's hard to imagine having to actually do something to get what you want, but maybe if you try, you'll get used to it.

For the people who were talking about women miscarrying and the hospital not... I don't even know what. Abort the baby they're already miscarrying? I don't get the point of that part, did anyone else? What is the complaint here and what does it have to do with abortion?

Maybe call your state rep and demand the hospital offer monitoring for miscarriages? I don't know that it's necessary though, unless you don't completely miscarry and then they need to go in and remove any remaining fetal tissue to prevent sepsis. But I don't think that would be impacted by abortion laws. Anyway if you feel something needs to change then get off your ass and participate in local and state elections, show up to meetings, explain why you feel it's important to address and CHANGE IT.
 
Catching up on DNC day one and to all the people at the event who sperged out about trump's "abortion ban" - if you feel that strongly about it, and live in a state with abortion laws you don't like, then call your state reps and tell them that, then vote accordingly, and encourage others to do the same.
And if you feel the state won't flip to what you want due to demographics. And it's that much of an important issue for you, then move to a different state.
And if you know a woman in that position and you both feel strongly about it, help her move.
And if something happens, and for some reason after a rape you can't take plan B or it doesn't work, and there isn't a rape exception, then move to a state that does if you feel it's that important.

This is what states rights mean. It means big daddy government doesn't do everything for you, and if you feel strongly about something you can more easily force change as a voter, or you can go to a state that better suits what you find important. I know it's hard to imagine having to actually do something to get what you want, but maybe if you try, you'll get used to it.

For the people who were talking about women miscarrying and the hospital not... I don't even know what. Abort the baby they're already miscarrying? I don't get the point of that part, did anyone else? What is the complaint here and what does it have to do with abortion?

Maybe call your state rep and demand the hospital offer monitoring for miscarriages? I don't know that it's necessary though, unless you don't completely miscarry and then they need to go in and remove any remaining fetal tissue to prevent sepsis. But I don't think that would be impacted by abortion laws. Anyway if you feel something needs to change then get off your ass and participate in local and state elections, show up to meetings, explain why you feel it's important to address and CHANGE IT.
they think abortion is a human right and so worthy of federal assurance, it trumps states rights as a matter of principle.
 
and to all the people at the event who sperged out about trump's "abortion ban" - if you feel that strongly about it, and live in a state with abortion laws you don't like, then call your state reps and tell them that, then vote accordingly, and encourage others to do the same.
they think abortion is a human right and so worthy of federal assurance, it trumps states rights as a matter of principle.
Also that would require Democrats to not lie about Trump's position on abortion bans. They don't want people to think it's an issue that's state by state, they want them to think he wants it banned entirely and that Roe V Wade is the end all be all of abortion laws.

It's bait for retards.

Was Biden more or less coherent?
MY MAN! Best part of the DNC. Love this guy. I genuinely hope his days are filled with comfort. Fuck is it aggravating he's hitched to Kamala's bullshit. I don't actually think his wife is using him as a prop, I hope their charity goes well.

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For the people who were talking about women miscarrying and the hospital not... I don't even know what. Abort the baby they're already miscarrying? I don't get the point of that part, did anyone else? What is the complaint here and what does it have to do with abortion?


The AMA is neck deep in this crap. The hangup is miscarriage and abortion are medically coded the same. Activists doctors and nurses are claiming this puts them in jeopardy of lawsuit and prison, so they’re refusing to help women bleeding out or who have ectopic pregnancies. It would be as easy as them separating out abortion from actual women’s healthcare. These doctors are willing to let women die in order to force outrage.
 
The rabbi Michael Beals was born and raised in San Francisco and comes from a Reconstructionist synagogue, btw.
>Reconstructionist

Jfc 25 years of "experience" and an 8 year old could religiously school him.

Chill bro, he's a vulcan
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It always surprises me how leftist interpretation of religion is so shallow, regardless of the religion. It's self serving af
 
they think abortion is a human right and so worthy of federal assurance, it trumps states rights as a matter of principle.
Then they should go read the constitution and bill of rights again, take a civics class to understand the difference between federal and state laws and why it's important for them to be different, then put on their tard helmet and shut the fuck up.
 
MY MAN! Best part of the DNC. Love this guy.

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I have some sympathy for ALS. Nobody important PL but I had to deal with one at university who was very smart and had a computer talking device that took 5 minutes per question and she was kind of depending on me for a lot. So, yeah. Can't bash that personally, but overall the rest of it sucked.
 
The hangup is miscarriage and abortion are medically coded the same. Activists doctors and nurses are claiming this puts them in jeopardy of lawsuit and prison, so they’re refusing to help women bleeding out or who have ectopic pregnancies.
Sounds like they should be focusing on clarifying this ambiguity in the state law so that patients who aren't given care for miscarriage or ectopic pregnancy can sue. I'm sure if they kick up enough of a fuss it could be pushed through pretty quickly.
 
Sounds like they should be focusing on clarifying this ambiguity in the state law so that patients who aren't given care for miscarriage or ectopic pregnancy can sue. I'm sure if they kick up enough of a fuss it could be pushed through pretty quickly.


This is actually a great counter. I’m passing it on. Thanks
 
I have some sympathy for ALS. Nobody important PL but I had to deal with one at university who was very smart and had a computer talking device that took 5 minutes per question and she was kind of depending on me for a lot. So, yeah. Can't bash that personally, but overall the rest of it sucked.
Here's hoping Brian and his wife's charity gets the bump it needs from this shitshow. Hopefully the money goes where it needs to go. There's a lot of hope in this post, because I can't be too sure when certain factors are involved.
 
Sounds like they should be focusing on clarifying this ambiguity in the state law so that patients who aren't given care for miscarriage or ectopic pregnancy can sue. I'm sure if they kick up enough of a fuss it could be pushed through pretty quickly.
Even if they did the doctors still wouldn't do it because muh AMA guidance (also muh uniparty quote here). I honestly think any prosecutor whose dumb enough to charge the removal of an ectopic pregnancy would not only get a not guilty verdict returned blazing fast, they'd loose the next election cycle.

If the Republicans were smart they'd introduce a bill federally (theoretically, not like the GOP could pass this) banning third trimester abortions under the 8th amendment, cruel and unusual punishment, re-writesout the court's "right to privacy" idea to "right to dissassociate" while removing all federal funding to non-profits like Planned Parenthood and try to get the dems to justify repealing that.
 
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Since Roe v. Wade got overturned, the comparisons that pro-abortionists have made between having an abortion and having a miscarriage ... I have no words to accurately describe how heinous and despicable that is. Nobody with an actual heart would seriously make those comparisons.

Also, if you need surgery to safely miscarry, then I have literally heard zero Republicans tell women that they aren't allowed to get those procedures. D&Cs happen when the mother is still tragically carrying a baby who has already passed, and this particular surgery is often recommended by doctors to prevent excess bleeding and/or an infection for when the miscarriage happens naturally (which could take several weeks or months, btw). You obviously need a doctor's referral to get the procedure done ... It's crystal clear that it's not an abortion ... So it's lunacy that people are saying that women wouldn't be able to get D&Cs without abortion being a free-for-all in every state. There's literal paperwork to prove that it's not an abortion.

Also, you can take the abortion pill to speed up the process of miscarrying the baby who has already passed, but doctors advise against it now because there's a level of danger to doing it (it can cause excess bleeding without actually successfully making the miscarriage happen-- I've heard horror stories).

"If it weren't for abortion, then you wouldn't be able to miscarry safely because they're the same procedure!" BULLSHIT. D&Cs are also performed on women who have tumors and cysts, too.

Pro-abortionists are basically saying that if you are a woman who is experiencing excess bleeding or has tumors, then you're shit out of luck because the sluts aren't able to have abortions on demand in every state. Absolute dishonesty.

EDIT: I'll also add that the lunacy doesn't stop there. Pro-abortionists are also trying to pass along the narrative that if you miscarry naturally, then Republicans will want to throw you in prison. What. In. The. Actual. Fuck.
 
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What else happened at the DNC? I saw this:
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I forgot Mike pence and the rest exist
It's easy to skip an event you weren't invited to in the first place. I am actually impressed Trump did drain a good chunk of the GOP's swamp.

Here's hoping Brian and his wife's charity gets the bump it needs from this shitshow. Hopefully the money goes where it needs to go. There's a lot of hope in this post, because I can't be too sure when certain factors are involved.
I wonder if they had Brian speak unaided to try to bait Trump into having a moment like this.

Context or not, it definitely wasn't one of his finest moments and if they can get something similar with Trump making fun of the guy mumbling at the DNC they could have something a little more concrete to attack him with.
 
It's easy to skip an event you weren't invited to in the first place. I am actually impressed Trump did drain a good chunk of the GOP's swamp.


I wonder if they had Brian speak unaided to try to bait Trump into having a moment like this.

Context or not, it definitely wasn't one of his finest moments and if they can get something similar with Trump making fun of the guy mumbling at the DNC they could have something a little more concrete to attack him with.
Trump's got a ton of videos with disabled people and helping them. They TRY to say he trashes them, and I guess he's been a bit of a shitposter more than he should, but overall just replay the normal stuff.

They also lost that argument by trashing Corey, thanks to Joy Reid.
 
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