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[Bland Crumbs]

Since Roe v. Wade got overturned, the comparisons that pro-abortionists have made between having an abortion and having a miscarriage ... I have no words to accurately describe how heinous and despicable that is. Nobody with an actual heart would seriously make those comparisons.

Also, if you need surgery to safely miscarry, then I have literally heard zero Republicans tell women that they aren't allowed to get those procedures. D&Cs happen when the mother is still tragically carrying a baby who has already passed, and this particular surgery is often recommended by doctors to prevent excess bleeding and/or an infection for when the miscarriage happens naturally (which could take several weeks or months, btw). You obviously need a doctor's referral to get the procedure done ... It's crystal clear that it's not an abortion ... So it's lunacy that people are saying that women wouldn't be able to get D&Cs without abortion being a free-for-all in every state. There's literal paperwork to prove that it's not an abortion.

Also, you can take the abortion pill to speed up the process of miscarrying the baby who has already passed, but doctors advise against it now because there's a level of danger to doing it (it can cause excess bleeding without actually successfully making the miscarriage happen-- I've heard horror stories).

"If it weren't for abortion, then you wouldn't be able to miscarry safely because they're the same procedure!" BULLSHIT. D&Cs are also performed on women who have tumors and cysts, too.

Pro-abortionists are basically saying that if you are a woman who is experiencing excess bleeding or has tumors, then you're shit out of luck because the sluts aren't able to have abortions on demand in every state. Absolute dishonesty.

EDIT: I'll also add that the lunacy doesn't stop there. Pro-abortionists are also trying to pass along the narrative that if you miscarry naturally, then Republicans will want to throw you in prison. What. In. The. Actual. Fuck.

It is almost like safety is less of a concern than the money generated from abortion and adjacent care....and organ sales.

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

What else happened at the DNC? I saw this:
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I forgot Mike pence and the rest exist

Is there a single name on the "Skipped RNC" list that isn't a Uniparty Rino Faggot?

 

[StarkRavingMad]

I wonder if they had Brian speak unaided to try to bait Trump into having a moment like this.

Context or not, it definitely wasn't one of his finest moments and if they can get something similar with Trump making fun of the guy mumbling at the DNC they could have something a little more concrete to attack him with.

Trump never mocked that reporter's disability.

 

[Party Hat Wurmple]

Pro-abortionists are basically saying that if you are a woman who is experiencing excess bleeding or has tumors, then you're shit out of luck because the sluts aren't able to have abortions on demand in every state. Absolute dishonesty.

That's because the Pro-Abortion women are unironically just evil to their core. If you want a good example, visit the Abortion Debate Thread. The amount of hoops and logical leaps they'll jump through to try to justify their desire to kill their own babies is astounding. They did nothing to me but play word games and try to force "gotcha" moments by the 1% of the 0.0000001% of women affected by X condition. These women do not care about facts, it is purely them demanding their right to sex without consequences.

Deep down I truly believe every woman who has actually carried a child knows abortion is evil. That's why so many women who have abortions swear they'll never do it again and regret it.

 

[Sekirodiealot]

Is there a single name on the "Skipped RNC" list that isn't a Uniparty Rino Faggot?

Nope. I just love how the tweet treats it like a win

 

[The Last Stand]

That's because the Pro-Abortion women are unironically just evil to their core. If you want a good example, visit the Abortion Debate Thread. The amount of hoops and logical leaps they'll jump through to try to justify their desire to kill their own babies is astounding. They did nothing to me but play word games and try to force "gotcha" moments by the 1% of the 0.0000001% of women affected by X condition. These women do not care about facts, it is purely them demanding their right to sex without consequences.

I cannot speak for them because I'm not a woman nor would I ever be confronted with that choice. That said, their arguments regarding abortion fall flat into it being a choice of volition rather than necessity. They haven't done a great job lately convincing the moderate of WHY abortion needs to be federally protected. If anything, it turned into a moral position than a healthcare issue that needs to be addressed. At the end of the day, I don't really care anymore. Forty, fifty years of abortion being reduced to a carrot-on-a-stick promise, when the ONLY time it was officially addressed was when Republicans shot an easy lay-up. During a DNC presidency for extra irony.

 

[JambledUpWords]

You can’t be anti abortion and anti birth control at the same time. Prior to more effective birth control, like in Ancient Rome, unwanted babies were typically left to the elements to die from exposure. With the advances in medicine that allow for less infanticide, it needs to be used. Otherwise, you end up with many unwanted kids that will not be afforded as optimal lives, as unplanned pregnancies can be a major financial burden on some families. It also ties into ending the poverty cycle among families. A kid born in poverty doesn’t have a high chance of getting out of it, and birth control (as in IUDs and other methods) being encouraged and widely available means that increased usage of that will diminish unplanned pregnancies, and therefore abortions. I personally find this stance, primarily among Catholics and some Protestant sects, to be one of the most illogical stances.

I’m also tired of birth control being used as a tool to shame women for having sex, as there are also plenty of married women that regularly use birth control. Men benefit from it too, because now they don’t have to worry as much about accidentally impregnating a woman and paying child support afterwards.

 

[The Last Stand]

Otherwise, you end up with many unwanted kids that will not be afforded as optimal lives, as unplanned pregnancies can be a major financial burden on some families.

Nobody wants to talk about adoption.

Men benefit from it too, because now they don’t have to worry as much about accidentally impregnating a woman and paying child support afterwards.

It's called a condom. Or a vasectomy. Or not having sex. You have options, but the condom is readily available.

 

[StarkRavingMad]

Deep down I truly believe every woman who has actually carried a child knows abortion is evil. That's why so many women who have abortions swear they'll never do it again and regret it.

And deep down, I truly believe that every doctor who has performed an abortion knows that it's evil, too.

Just simply watching an ultrasound completely debunks the "it's not a life/it's just a clump of cells" argument. And, as someone who has had multiple ultrasounds at this point (and will be having a ton more for the next several months), the way the doctors and nurses have talked to me during the ultrasounds ... They definitely speak as if they know that's a precious human life.

You can’t be anti abortion and anti birth control at the same time. Prior to more effective birth control, like in Ancient Rome, unwanted babies were typically left to the elements to die from exposure. With the advances in medicine that allow for less infanticide, it needs to be used. Otherwise, you end up with many unwanted kids that will not be afforded as optimal lives, as unplanned pregnancies can be a major financial burden on some families. It also ties into ending the poverty cycle among families. A kid born in poverty doesn’t have a high chance of getting out of it, and birth control (as in IUDs and other methods) being encouraged and widely available means that increased usage of that will diminish unplanned pregnancies, and therefore abortions. I personally find this stance, primarily among Catholics and some Protestant sects, to be one of the most illogical stances.

I’m also tired of birth control being used as a tool to shame women for having sex, as there are also plenty of married women that regularly use birth control. Men benefit from it too, because now they don’t have to worry as much about accidentally impregnating a woman and paying child support afterwards.

Personally, I am against the pill, and I do wholly believe that it's misadvertised as this magic pill that makes every woman's problems go away (so women end up taking it without knowing the very real and very possible side effects) ... And I also believe that doctors overprescribe it like it's candy or something ...

But, there are real medical reasons for some women to be taking birth control (I actually have 2 friends with very real bleeding disorders and they literally need it to prevent being seriously anemic/sickly 24/7). And, if women really don't want to have babies, then I am more than happy with them choosing the method that prevents life rather than murders it.

Above all else, I am anti-abortion ... So I favor the methods that prevent abortions.

 

[FILTH Tourist]

Trump never mocked that reporter's disability.

That's why I said "context or not". Trump gets flamboyant when mocking people, but with that guy in particular, it was easy to make it seem malicious. Hence why I think having the guy mumble unaided was to bate a soundbite.

 

[mlanguishi]

I’m also tired of birth control being used as a tool to shame women for having sex, as there are also plenty of married women that regularly use birth control. Men benefit from it too, because now they don’t have to worry as much about accidentally impregnating a woman and paying child support afterwards.

Find a chubby PCOS chick that's infertile and is so horny no man can keep up with them.

 

[Brenda Holiday]

Pro-abortionists are also trying to pass along the narrative that if you miscarry naturally, then Republicans will want to throw you in prison.

You would think this awful dangerous misinformation would get fact checked on social media, yet I have seen multiple big time pages spread this absolute lie with no repercussions.

You can’t be anti abortion and anti birth control at the same time.

I have opinions on birth control, some opinions I'm not fully sure of yet, but anything that prevents an abortion is better than nothing. I think the amount of "evil republicans that want to ban birth control" is wildly exaggerated.

 

[The Last Stand]

Context or not, it definitely wasn't one of his finest moments and if they can get something similar with Trump making fun of the guy mumbling at the DNC they could have something a little more concrete to attack him with.

Agreed, but we're WAY past that point with Trump. It's like complaining that a rapper says the N-word or has misogynist lyrics. Especially when his opposition is objectively worse.

 

[JambledUpWords]

I have opinions on birth control, some opinions I'm not fully sure of yet, but anything that prevents an abortion is better than nothing. I think the amount of "evil republicans that want to ban birth control" is wildly exaggerated.

I do too, but I still remember that stance being catered to in parts of the early 2000s, primarily by the Catholic Church. I’m glad the party has changed quite a bit, because the stances many neocons had at the time were alienating to so many people, specifically the stances on birth control. I can understand being against certain forms of birth control, especially if it causes health issues, but being against all of it is how you get unwanted pregnancies. In an ideal world, at least for me, all deadbeats and abusive fathers would get mandatory vasectomies, and people would only have sex within marriage, but I understand that you can’t operate on that idealism in the real world, so there needs to be some compromises that help the issue.

 

[Bland Crumbs]

You would think this awful dangerous misinformation would get fact checked on social media, yet I have seen multiple big time pages spread this absolute lie with no repercussions.

I have opinions on birth control, some opinions I'm not fully sure of yet, but anything that prevents an abortion is better than nothing. I think the amount of "evil republicans that want to ban birth control" is wildly exaggerated.

In two separate states I have witnessed PAC generated ads that completely lie about the GOP candidate's position on birth control and abortion.

Two minutes of searching showed the commercials were complete fiction but most people are not going to bother with that because GOP is so evil.

 

[StarkRavingMad]

In two separate states I have witnessed PAC generated ads that completely lie about the GOP candidate's position on birth control and abortion.

Two minutes of searching showed the commercials were complete fiction but most people are not going to bother with that because GOP is so evil.

To my understanding, the biggest issue that the vast majority of Republicans have with birth control at this point is that the Democrats are trying to make it widely available to minors without the parents' knowledge.

Which is objectively fucked up. I'm wholly behind the GOP on this one.

 

[HOMO FOR LIFE RETURNS]

Nobody wants to talk about adoption.


It's called a condom. Or a vasectomy. Or not having sex. You have options, but the condom is readily available.

We should offer both options to women. We pay you money if you carry the baby full term or abort at will. Give them all the resources in the world to choose and drive down the abortion number to mere 10%.

No one wants to talk about that. We should be saving the babies at all cost and yes women be bitches but they are, by nature, hoes, so give them money.

 

[CharlesBarkley]

All this birth control shit is stupid, just pull out and nut on floor like a real man. If you are too stupid to figure that out, then you should be deported.

 

[HOMO FOR LIFE RETURNS]

All this birth control shit is stupid, just pull out and nut on floor like a real man. If you are too stupid to figure that out, then you should be deported.

Or don't fuck. That's what gen z bois are doing. Quality of women and risk/reward ratio is so bad that it's better to fuck an AI bot than fuck a gen z bitch

 

[Bland Crumbs]

To my understanding, the biggest issue that the vast majority of Republicans have with birth control at this point is that the Democrats are trying to make it widely available to minors without the parents' knowledge.

Which is objectively fucked up. I'm wholly behind the GOP on this one.

The DNC sure loves to push the parents out of the way when it comes to children and sexuality. It is almost like they are all child predators or something.