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[Verdun_Salient]

Who let the dumb boomers in the thread. Democrats nor Marxists share anything in common with National Socialism. Dems and marxists are anti-White and anti-property rights, where as Nazi Germany still had the right to own property including land.

You actually didn't really have a right to land in Nazi Germany, the Reichstag Fire Decree suspended Article 153 of the Weimar Constitution
You only kept your property if you could stay in the Nazis good graces

Spoiler: Article 153 of the Weimar Constitution in English

Property shall be guaranteed by the constitution. Its nature and limits shall be prescribed by law.

Expropriation shall take place only for the general good and only on the basis of law. It shall be accompanied by payment of just compensation unless otherwise provided by national law. In case of dispute over the amount of compensation recourse to the ordinary courts shall be permitted, unless otherwise provided by national law. Expropriation by the Reich over against the states, municipalities, and associations serving the public welfare may take place only upon the payment of compensation.

Property imposes obligations. Its use by its owner shall at the same time serve the public good.

 

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How long are you retards going to sperg about abortion?

Another 90 days or so?

 

[Hey Johnny Bravo]

How long are you retards going to sperg about abortion?

Considering it was the dominant topic at the DNC last night, I think it's relevant to the thread.

 

[Palmer Bangs]

Considering it was the dominant topic at the DNC last night, I think it's relevant to the thread.

Perhaps if it wasn't a discussion on the ethics of it and instead on what Walz and Harris want to implement I'd agree

 

[The best and greatest]

I’d love it if that’s how reality operated, but it doesn’t. Horny young people that have little concept of cause and effect aren’t going to just stop having sex. The prefrontal cortex doesn’t fully develop until age 25, and plenty of people are having sex (and the resulting kids) before that point. In my ideal, sex wouldn’t happen until marriage, but it’s not a realistic expectation to place on people. If kids only happened between men and women that love and respect each other, are married, and can provide for those kids, abortion would be a non issue because it just wouldn’t happen. Reality is far messier, and while I highly encourage kids in the circumstances I listed above, kids are not always brought into this world under ideal conditions.

Having children after 35 is dysgenic as fuck why wouldn't you want young people to have kids? Its quite literally the best time to do so.
You can argue "I shouldn't have to pay" 'til you're blue in the face but the fact remains that the alternative is people having children only after they become established (30s/40s) which means fewer children of lesser quality

 

[John Badman]

"Make it great like '68! Shut down the DNC for Gaza," an Instagram post from the group Anti-Imperialist Resistance shared Tuesday morning reads. The post contains details of the march starting at the Israeli consulate at 7 p.m. CT.

Can someone please verify this on Instagram?

 

[Party Hat Wurmple]

Behind every single mother is a deadbeat father (barring death of said father). Despite progress made in making sure men have to pay child support, many just try to avoid it. Yet, the woman that stays and raises the kid instead of putting said kid through the foster system gets villainized. “Just stop being whores” is sound advice, but only if applied to both men and women. Men that father multiple children and are deadbeats on top of it don’t get nearly as much hate as they should.

Men have 0 control over what you do with a baby. If I knocked you up, it's up to you whether you keep it or not. I have 0 power in this scenario. The state cannot compel you either. I also have 0 power over birth control that you use. So my choices as a man are to either use a condom, or abstain from sex with you.

Now that's all fine and dandy, except for one thing. Bitches lie to men to baby trap them. It has become so prolific they have songs about it. The act of baby trapping is so common it is literally viewed as "Making money moves". There has to be some kind of check or balance in place to stop this. Deadbeat Dad's are a problem but I'm not going to blame the men who get duped under false pretenses when women have all the power in a scenario and use reproduction as a weapon.

 

[Justa Grata Honoria]

Having children after 35 is dysgenic as fuck why wouldn't you want young people to have kids? Its quite literally the best time to do so.
You can argue "I shouldn't have to pay" 'til you're blue in the face but the fact remains that the alternative is people having children only after they become established (30s/40s) which means both fewer children overall and drags down the quality of our stock.

Because they cannot afford it . Which part of rent is too damn high you don't get?, childcare is too damn high, everything is expensive. Can you afford kids? Fucking hell can you afford a 2 bedroom crackshack in any major city?

 

[Justsomecicada]

Can someone please verify this on Instagram?

I’m still looking for the clip of the protester saying they take orders from hamas.

 

[Soycast Guy]

Just take a gander at Tim Walz's record in Minnesota. The abortion laws he signed are fucking insane.

Neglecting a newborn child to the point where it is left to die because the mom decided last minute that she doesn't want it or if the newborn survived the abortion is infanticide.

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I’ve heard of stories where abortion clinics (or was it hospitals?) offer to kill the baby after birth. If true, it’s downright fucking evil. There’s no excuse you can make at that point.

Edit: somewhat related, here’s one article from 2013 https://abc7chicago.com/archive/9097664/

 

[Rimanah]

If we could get Supreme Court to rule that life begins at conception, we could absolutely ban abortion entirely. Then it would be just plain murder.

I don’t see any real path to getting such a case before SCOTUS in a way that the holding will bind the states.
The best I can think of is some Equal protection Clause ruling.

 

[Random Internet Person]

DNC tries to put lipstick on a communist pig​

Cartoon published 08/20/2024

The Democratic National Convention began with protests, bad dance acts, and a formulaic speech by the Democrat 2016 sore loser, Hillary Clinton.

Hillary seemed to suggest a woman must and should be president merely because she’s a woman. Forget about merit. This was ironic as the Democrats can not even define “what a woman is” as they struggle with gender-specific bathrooms.

The Chicago clown circus is in town and the usual clown suspects are speaking on night one—including communist AOC. She proceeded to shout in a loud voice about ‘Orange Man Bad’ and the usual socialist dribble. Let’s hope she made better drinks than speeches. She and the rest of the Democrats are trying mightily to present themselves as moderates to appeal to the Democrat base. They are trying to put blue lipstick on a red communist pig—and they’re not doing a messy job of it.



Kamala has been shooting off her mouth and letting the communist pig out of the bag when she blurted out that she would end ‘price gouging’ and give first-time home buyers (including illegal aliens) a $25,000.00 subsidy. Ask Fannie and Freddie circa 2009 how well that strategy worked out. Fixing food prices is straight out of the Soviet Union and leads to shortages and bread lines. Yet the Democrats ignore history and make excuses like “they just didn’t do it right.”

Both Tim ‘Great Walz of China’ and Barack Obama have been raised at the teat of communism. Walz took 35 trips to Red China and even got married on the anniversary of Tiananmen Square. Honestly—who does that? Obama was raised and mentored by Frank Marshall Davis and his spiritual advisor was “God Damn America!” Jeremiah Wright—and Barry can’t seem to remember whether to call his wife Michelle or Michael.


Democrats have turned into radical Marxists who will do anything to keep and take power. It’s up to Americans to see through the many thick coats of moderate blue lipstick and recognize the communist pig underneath.

—The GrrrTeam

 

[JambledUpWords]

Men are hardwired to try and spread their seed. Women WERE hardwired to be very selective to who they allowed to cum in them till the whole sexual liberation thing went insane.

So by this logic, women by nature should only aim for the best men possible, and not date, marry, or have sex with low value men (ie. incels). That’s just common sense. You don’t want to reproduce with men that refuse to provide, can’t hold a conversation, and have no real aspirations. Women already do this, but they get called “high maintenance” and “gold diggers” for it by the same men that can’t obtain a higher maintenance woman and have no gold to really dig.

 

[Rimanah]

Perhaps if it wasn't a discussion on the ethics of it and instead on what Walz and Harris want to implement I'd agree

You say that as if opposition to their policies aren’t inherently grounded in Ethics and Morals, and that any meaningful discussion on those policies and trying to change peoples minds on them won’t necessarily entail discussion on those foundations.
Certainly, there’s a line between what belongs on here and what needs to be in deep thoughts, but the notion that politics can be divorced from ethics is just stupid.

 

[Kalamazoo 2 Timbuktu]

I don’t see any real path to getting such a case before SCOTUS in a way that the holding will bind the states.
The best I can think of is some Equal protection Clause ruling.

A double homicide in which one of the victims was a pregnant mother. We already have a few of those.

The argument with abortion is pointless because we can’t even agree on the premise of when a baby is “alive”. If we can’t start off a discussion with the general agreement that a baby is actually a human life and not a parasite, imo is a waste of time (and sanity) even getting into a discussion with the other party.

 

[Hey Johnny Bravo]

Now that's all fine and dandy, except for one thing. Bitches lie to men to baby trap them. It has become so prolific they have songs about it.

A woman tried this with me when I was younger. She lied about birth control, jumped the gun on baby talk, and then (thankfully) did not get pregnant. Period happened after 5 weeks of profuse sweating. I was very, very lucky.

I am not saying that most women do this, nor is this a reason to distrust or shit on women writ large. However, there are women who do this kind of crazy shit just as there are psycho retard men who want wives to support their manchild lifestyle into their 30's.

Men ought to follow the advice of my pediatrician, who said this to me when I was 16: even if she says she's on the pill, use a condom.

 

[Palmer Bangs]

Some info for DNC Day 2 (from AP/Archive)

The Obamas are expected to headline the convention’s second night, a day after the unofficial farewell for Biden, who served eight years as Obama’s vice president. Biden won’t be in the hall to see his former running mate speak, having departed Chicago after his own speech.

In addition to the Obamas, Harris’ husband, second gentleman Doug Emhoff, is also scheduled to give his speech on Tuesday night.

According to convention organizers, the theme for Tuesday’s events is “A bold vision for America’s future,” a defined pivot toward a new generation for Democrats and their leadership.

More protests are planned near the site of the DNC, where on Monday, a few dozen who broke away from a larger group voicing their opposition to the war in Gaza tore down pieces of the security fence up in several areas near convention venues. Some protesters, dressed in black with their faces covered, dragged pieces of the fence back to a park near the United Center, where the convention is being held.

Thousands of activists have been expected to converge on Chicago, hoping to call attention to abortion rights, economic injustice and the war in Gaza. Demonstrations are expected every day of the convention and, while their agendas vary, many activists agree an immediate ceasefire in the Israel-Hamas war is the priority.

As he did on Monday, Trump and his running mate, Ohio Sen. JD Vance, are continuing on their separate trips across battleground states to keep Democrats from having the political spotlight all to themselves.

Trump heads to Howell, Michigan, for a crime and safety event, while Vance hosts something similar in Kenosha, Wisconsin. As they did Monday, Trump’s campaign and surrogates — including Rep. Byron Donalds of Florida — plan a media briefing on the sidelines of the DNC in Chicago, with the daily theme of “Make America Safe Again.”

 

[Justsomecicada]

So by this logic, women by nature should only aim for the best men possible, and not date, marry, or have sex with low value men (ie. incels). That’s just common sense. You don’t want to reproduce with men that refuse to provide, can’t hold a conversation, and have no real aspirations. Women already do this, but they get called “high maintenance” and “gold diggers” for it by the same men that can’t obtain a higher maintenance woman and have no gold to really dig.

>women already do this
>complains in the previous post about dead beat dads
So which is it?

 

[Cherry Dude]

Why have the gender wars spilled over into this thread? Again?

We have threads for that. Take it there.

 

[Harvey Danger]

It's not Naziism. The left hates Nationalism. They'd NEVER embrace National Socialism.

The left believes in Globalist Socialism. International. They're iNazis .

It's ridiculous how stupid we've become with labels. I used to say "political science" was a dumb term but at least they treat the underlying concepts correctly.

Spoiler: poli sci sperg

First off, actual Naziism died with Hitler. It was basically Hitlerism, a German form of National Socialism, that makes no sense outside the context of 1920s-1940's Germany. Neo-Nazis are Hitler hero-worshippers and otherwise poseurs.

So what is National Socialism? Per the big guy himself, it's "socialism without Marxism". From a 1932 interview:

‘Why’, I asked Hitler, ‘do you call yourself a National Socialist, since your party program is the very anthesis of that commonly accredited to Socialism?’

‘Socialism’, he retorted, putting down his cup of tea, ‘is the science of dealing with the common weal [health or well-being]. Communism is not Socialism. Marxism is not Socialism. The Marxians have stolen the term and confused its meaning. I shall take Socialism away from the Socialists.

‘Socialism is an ancient Aryan, Germanic institution. Our German ancestors held certain lands in common. They cultivated the idea of the common weal. Marxism has no right to disguise itself as socialism. Socialism, unlike Marxism, does not repudiate private property. Unlike Marxism, it involves no negation of personality and, unlike Marxism, it is patriotic.

‘We might have called ourselves the Liberal Party. We chose to call ourselves the National Socialists. We are not internationalists. Our Socialism is national. We demand the fulfilment of the just claims of the productive classes by the State on the basis of race solidarity. To us, State and race are one…

You can discard his claims about ancient Aryan political theory, but functionally Nazi/National Socialism operated how he outlined. Fascism, the generic Western European flavor of the same idea, worked the same way in Italy and Spain; Hitler simply added the race bit.

In school you probably heard Nazism equated to nationalism. A more honest teacher would say "extreme nationalism", but the point remains: you can't have National Socialism without a core belief in the underlying nation, its right to exist, its need to flourish, etc. Note that a "nation" isn't always a "state" or a country--it can also refer to a people. The world of nation-states was supposed to map things out to protect those people. The system of globalism seeks to undermine those states, supposedly to protect more people, or remove the protective barriers some peoples put up for themselves.

Finally, it's an uncomfortable truth that Nazism rose in Germany as a reaction to Bolshevism trying to destroy the country, and subsume it under international Communism. Before he ever joined/founded a political party, Hitler helped put down the Communist uprising of 1918. A huge part of his rhetoric, politics, and actions are framed in an anti-Communist context. Arguably, most of his Jew hatred stems from the Bolsheviks, which were a Jewish-led faction within Russia. Much of his praise of Aryan characteristics is to uphold the German people and traditions against those outsiders who tried to undermine them in pursuit of power.

So no, the Democrats are not Nazis. Authoritarians, yes. But if we must use WW2 labels for everything, then the modern globalist, internationalist, tradition subverting, border erasing, liberty destroying, anti-capitalist, anti-private property, pro-degeneracy Democrats would map to the Bolsheviks.

(Anyone who thinks that claim is somehow letting the Democrats off the hook, doesn't realize how much worse Bolshevism was for the world.)