Official Kiwi Farms Man-Hate Thread

[Miriam Margoyles]

There's an extreme horror book, called The Slob. Like most extreme horror, it's edgy for the sake of edgy trash which confuses being disgusting for being frightening. However, there is a moment in the book that I've been thinking about more and more, because I'm starting to think that perhaps the author completely inadvertently stumbled across something of a revelation about men - specifically gay men and, by extension, trans women.

The book features a group of wealthy, cannibalistic gay men, who sell the butchered remains of women tinned as T.Y.G. - 'Tender Young Girls'.

The motivation behind their doing this is because of hatred of women that stems from the fact that they can never be women. And they all want to be women, because they know in their hearts that men do not love men in the same way that men love women and they hate them for it out of jealousy. These men believe that by eating the flesh of women they'll become more feminine, more like women, and thus, closer to receiving the love they crave, but will never ever experience.

Now, obviously, it's exaggerated to the point of horror because, y'know, it's a horror novel, and places like Reddit and Tumblr are of course decrying how homophobic that part of the book is... But when I think about how many gay men and ESPECIALLY trannies absolutely despise women and are not shy about sharing that misogyny, I cannot help but think that there might be a grain of truth to that.

Men don't love other men in the same way that men love women. Relationships between gay men are generally quite opportunistic, very much transactional, very much a means to an end. There's also, nine times out of ten, degenerate sex shit involved that - and maybe this is just me - doesn't seem like the sort of thing you'd do in a healthy relationship with someone you loved and respected. It's well documented that gay men are ludicrously promiscuous and how many trannies have we seen banding together in disgusting polycules?

I dunno, man, none of this is to say that straight men are any better, of course, and feel free to rate me Autistic or whatever because I'm probably just sperging out here about something completely stupid, but I just can't stop thinking about that idea.

Men don't love other men the way that men love women.

 

[Fagatron Over 9000]

Speaking of which, whenever I'm being told that rape cases only account for [some teensy weensy] percent of medical abortion, I have a hunch I'm being told a whopper.

Keep in mind the fact that they can only go off of if the woman says it's a rape at the time. Not everyone discloses that, and I'm pretty sure it has to be proven in court to be documented as well.

 

[Tragon Dirtle]

So there's a new Tiktok trend I have unfortunately been made aware of because of Twitter and some lolcows I follow and it's a FAT TRANNY talking about how "demure" he is in his fat tranny clownface and wig.

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Ofc it's a fucking man talking about how women need to be "demure" and all the faghag normie women are copying this trend because they have never met a gay man whose blown out shitter they don't want to blow sugar up.

There ain't nothing demure about being a fat tranny, but most of all do we really need to go back to this misogynistic shit?? Soooo creepy.

Gorlock the Demure(r)

I think drag queen make-up is on its way out precisely because of trannies though, I'm seeing fewer and fewer women I know do the full face and elaborate eye make up in particular. Sabrina Carpenter's heavy blush look is also shows off the natural curves of her face, but trannies / drag queens had to use contours to make their faces look softer/more apple cheeked, so even when it's heavy make up, it's different.

 

[Totallyunknown]

There are a few crimes of violence against women that stuck with me after hearing them: some examples would be the Steubenville rape case and Susan Powell.

I was just listening to Rotten Mango's video on the recent Indian doctor rape and she made it a point to describe the fact the rapists had broken her legs at a 90 degree angle towards her head from the pelvic bone - as in they created so much force on her hips they basically snapped as they brutally gang raped her.

I don't think I'll be forgetting this one anytime soon.

 

[I'm a Silly]

Keep in mind the fact that they can only go off of if the woman says it's a rape at the time. Not everyone discloses that, and I'm pretty sure it has to be proven in court to be documented as well.

Exactly! This is why whenever I see people [mostly moids] downplay rape as a reason for abortion, I feel like setting them on fire with my mind.

 

[JambledUpWords]

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[2mm and 99 others]

There are a few crimes of violence against women that stuck with me after hearing them: some examples would be the Steubenville rape case and Susan Powell.

I was just listening to Rotten Mango's video on the recent Indian doctor rape and she made it a point to describe the fact the rapists had broken her legs at a 90 degree angle towards her head from the pelvic bone - as in they created so much force on her hips they basically snapped as they brutally gang raped her.

I don't think I'll be forgetting this one anytime soon.

I did not look into the matter much yet, but I think shit got so bad there even tho men be men everywhere, because streetshitters lost their reincarnation-based faith that made them believe if they do good (or at least somewhat civilised), then they gonna reborn into a higher caste.
Or lower or not even human, if they do bad, and end up as some worms or gypsies. What exactly is the hinduist concept of good and morality, I leave for further reading.
Now, the caste system persists unoficially, but with no faith there is no hope for social mobility in the next life, no future and no fear of becoming a worm.

 

[Thé au lait]

Nigger you literally started saying "well it's not their fault they're emotionally retarded and incapable of any sort of emotional connection"
@Macho Man's Rabbi

NIGGER where the FUCK did I say it's not their fault or white knight for them lmao? I'm not gonna speculate on why some of you are so MATI but I literally said don't expect moids to fulfill you emotionally and provide all the love you need as a woman because they CAN'T. And if you can't handle that, don't date them. "Pickme" because I'm confident and get what I want from men, that which they are capable of giving? The insecurity is just astounding lmao thats what i think. I'm not "making excuses for men", I think you're delusional if you think they can provide the kind of emotional fulfillment women can. It's not what they're for. Get women friends, and don't expect a man is going to give you the kind of love a woman will. I know it's hard to accept this, but jfc I'm now a "fucking retarded whore who writes incomprehensible gibberish" for saying that men wont fulfill your need for love, like damn do we hate men here or no? No worries I'm the mati one for sure lol

Right here:

But, and this is just my opinion as a regretfully heterosexual woman, I come with low social intelligence expectations for men; they are MEN. Idon't waste time on men who aren't worth my while, I make sure I'm getting dates and adoration,Ihe better be a business owner or some high-paid employee, I make sure I'm getting lots out of listening to his day and him not asking much about mine lmao. I'm not in manhate because I believe any of them is actually a perfect prospect, so I decide what I need out of a man and that's his desire and adoration. You can't ask of men more than they are capable of.

Emphasis mine, and the article is a long pickme screed about how "ackshully him wanting to fuck you IS adoration and love sweaty, so when you say no you're telling him you don't love him enough"

Also another main reason why fujoshi get into yaoi is because most of the time male-female pairings are written very dogshit in media, whether they're done by men or women, especially in anime and manga in more recent times. Because usually in that media hetero pairings when they're written by a man it's always gonna be the duo of a manic pixie dream girl that's insanely beyond a man's league orbiting and uplifting the main mediocre male-protagonist that usually tends to be a self-insert and when hetero pairings that are written by women they tend to have an abusive dynamic where the male character treats the female character like shit with their relationship being built of the "I can fix him" or "He's a bad boy with soft-spot" tropes.

Adding to this: I read something recently explaining that these depictions very often present violent rape as "sexy" or "romantic". Since they can't get away from that, they go toward MM depictions which are well-separated into shit written by/for gay men and shit written by/for women, where the latter usually doesn't have the same issue. Hell, look at any depiction of WW couples written by moids and you'll find plenty of sick shit because they constantly project their violent sexual fantasies onto women. It's the same shit in both cases but women tend to listen when gay men say to fuck off and do their own shit elsewhere, a decency rarely afforded by the "protector" sex.

So there's a new Tiktok trend I have unfortunately been made aware of because of Twitter and some lolcows I follow and it's a FAT TRANNY talking about how "demure" he is in his fat tranny clownface and wig.

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Ofc it's a fucking man talking about how women need to be "demure" and all the faghag normie women are copying this trend because they have never met a gay man whose blown out shitter they don't want to blow sugar up.

There ain't nothing demure about being a fat tranny, but most of all do we really need to go back to this misogynistic shit?? Soooo creepy.

I can't find anything online explaining this to satisfaction, so I'll just ask here: what the fuck does demure mean? As far as I've seen it's just another term for modest or dignified, although a few sources (all of them in English) described it as "modest yet provocative". (edit: phrasing)
So, modesty as a fetish because moids can't stop cooming to the thought of harassing or fucking a woman who doesn't want their attention.
Is there an actual meaning that's not just an excuse to sexualize a lack of sexualization?

Why do these trannies all sound like bad imitation sassy black women?

That's what was being pushed as "beautiful" ten, twenty years ago. You can immediately tell how old a troon is by their costume: it will always be a bizarre caricature of whatever was being pushed as attractive in the media they consumed when they hit puberty.

 

[Internet Wizard]

The doormat crisis doesn't get talked about nearly enough. They're essentially introverted pickmes, where instead of wanting attention from a mass audience they want deep, emotional attention from their partners. Low self esteem, trauma, and every other condition that influences clinginess effectively makes them put up with what at times can't be called anything other than abuse. They really don't know what true love is like, and they're tricked into accepting cheap lovebombing from manipulators instead. I don't blame them in the slightest because, at least from what I've seen, they're almost always resorting to it as a coping mechanism, especially in cases of loneliness or fear of what the alternative might be - abandonment.
Of course there's never any nuanced discussion about any facet of this because many guys on places like social media clamor at the opportunity of dating a Cluster B "edgy" girl under the guise of "fixing her" into "wife material". They see obsession as a positive trait, not a result from deep-seated issues and mental struggles. They see it as a type of clay to mold their partners into whatever they want them to be - because they get off on this more than their partners having an intact sense of self worth.

 

[Slideshow Bill]

Internet addiction is the throughline of both
The same edgelord teens who lurked /pol/ probably developed absurd porn fetishes (see Lidl's post). These are just the ones who didn't flip to something like Reddit/Discord/Twitter Communism before trooning out, yet just the same they're disconnected from reality and filled with delusion
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This is barely relevant to this thread but they gravitate towards these extremes because they subconsciously think that if there were to be a revolution they'd be a high ranking commisar or some other LARP position that would basically guarantee power over others. Being in your room all day makes you feel kind of powerless, doesn't it? Once you're done gooning to sissy hypnosis porn you can read about how YOU, the persecuted Master Race/Proletariat, can have everything you desire, including your own harem like in your favorite anime! Thus begins the LARPing, and the delusion manifests as something like this in the end
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I hope there's studies done on this phenomenon in the future, Zoomericide is fascinating to watch

Zoomer loser white boys only have two paths nowadays: watches too much porn and anime, discovers online communities of other degenerate losers, becomes trooner groomer or getting obsessed with some failed fascist regime, starts to believe that killing millions of random people will elevate them to Aryan Daddy Hitler-senpai (famously not Aryan) and then attempts to be the 100th (or so) Columbine copycat.

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I can't find anything online explaining this so I'll just ask here: what the fuck does demure mean? As far as I've seen it's just another term for modest or dignified, although a few sources (all of them in English) described it as "modest yet provocative".
So, modesty as a fetish because moids can't stop cooming to the thought of harassing or fucking a woman who doesn't want their attention.
Is there an actual meaning that's not just an excuse to sexualize a lack of sexualization?

Demure means modest, shy and withdrawn but it has a more "pretty and innocent" connotation than shy and withdrawn. I guess the modern tranny/fag/faghag version is more like a Disney cartoon forest creature batting her eyes flirtatiously. See also: coquette

 

[Thé au lait]

So, modesty as a fetish because moids can't stop cooming to the thought of harassing or fucking a woman who doesn't want their attention.
Is there an actual meaning that's not just an excuse to sexualize a lack of sexualization?

This reminded me of something that left me feeling quite nauseated, and felt relevant to share here.
I present to you, moids:

Spoiler: don't open if you're in a good mood

From my girlfriend: "They've managed to sexualize rape whistles, I hate everything."

This is why you don't fuck around with mace or anything, have a gun or a knife on you at all times "but only if it's legal in your jurisdiction"
It's not surprising that this is proliferating with weebs, but this is confirmation that @Lidl Drip is entirely right about total vtuber death.

Demure means modest, shy and withdrawn but it has a more "pretty and innocent" connotation than shy and withdrawn. I guess the modern tranny/fag/faghag version is more like a Disney cartoon forest creature batting her eyes flirtatiously. See also: coquette

Okay I think I understand now, it's the kind of "obedient wife" archetype? Obedient to father/husband/son, seen and not heard, overly polite and agreeable, that kind of idea?

 

[Slideshow Bill]

Okay I think I understand now, it's the kind of "obedient wife" archetype? Obedient to father/husband/son, seen and not heard, overly polite and agreeable, that kind of idea?

Yes on the seen and not heard, kind of on the overly polite and agreeable. This kind of "obedient wife" wouldn't be overly anything because expressing too much emotion draws too much attention to her. She wouldn't speak unless spoken to because she's shy( in a cute and feminine way of course).

 

[Miriam Margoyles]

I did not look into the matter much yet, but I think shit got so bad there even tho men be men everywhere, because streetshitters lost their reincarnation-based faith that made them believe if they do good (or at least somewhat civilised), then they gonna reborn into a higher caste.
Or lower or not even human, if they do bad, and end up as some worms or gypsies. What exactly is the hinduist concept of good and morality, I leave for further reading.
Now, the caste system persists unoficially, but with no faith there is no hope for social mobility in the next life, no future and no fear of becoming a worm.

I don't know what it is exactly, but something is definitely wrong with Indian men.

Personally, I blame arranged marriages. They allow Indian men the guaranteed chance to procreate, resulting in the proliferation of genes that should have died out, as well as Indian men never having to learn how to act right around women, resulting in the "Send bobs and vagene" shit we're all familiar with.

I think the ease of availability of online pornography also plays a big role (as I think it does in an awful lot of social problems), because it promotes the idea that women, especially Western women, are promiscuous sluts who'll do disgusting things for male attention and approval. India has a very high rate of porn consumption (the highest in the world is Pakistan, which is just next door and the men there are basically even worse, because it's India: Muslim Edition).

 

[Red flag]

Decided to stroll by one of @JambledUpWords posted articles in A&N re women getting back into the kitchen.

Legitimately lol lmao'd at the moids decrying (lack of) cooking and that woman "need to bring more to the table than pussy".



Watching these genetic dead ends flail about women needing to do anything for them after their artificial control of our finances and movement is history, is fucking hilarious.

No, retard, what do you bring to the table? Beggars can't be choosers. Suffa, scrotes.

 

[Tutu]

I don't know what it is exactly, but something is definitely wrong with Indian men.

Personally, I blame arranged marriages. They allow Indian men the guaranteed chance to procreate, resulting in the proliferation of genes that should have died out, as well as Indian men never having to learn how to act right around women, resulting in the "Send bobs and vagene" shit we're all familiar with.

I think the ease of availability of online pornography also plays a big role (as I think it does in an awful lot of social problems), because it promotes the idea that women, especially Western women, are promiscuous sluts who'll do disgusting things for male attention and approval. India has a very high rate of porn consumption (the highest in the world is Pakistan, which is just next door and the men there are basically even worse, because it's India: Muslim Edition).

India is proof that giving incels state mandated girlfriends does not solve anything but only makes the world a worse place. The quality of life for the average citizen always goes up all across the board when a country gives more rights to women. There is not a single country that became utopian from incel rights activism (kek). No one is entitled to romance. Sex is not a human right. There are moids who HAVE TO die alone

 

[Miriam Margoyles]

Apologies that this is a complete fucking pivot from what we were talking about, but I wanted to post about this a few days ago, but completely forgot in the shuffle of other things going on in my life.

Izzzyzzz made a video about the Boys Are Stupid, Throw Rocks At Them T-shirt controversy of the early 2000s, and how men completely lost their fucking minds over it.

Now, admittedly, I don't much like the cut of Izzzyzzz's gender-jib, with her wearing makeup, dressing extremely femininely and making YouTube videos exclusively about girly things that would literally only be of interest to a female audience, but then throwing the back of her hand to her forehead dramatically and collapsing onto xe/xir/xim's fainting couch whenever someone correctly identifies her as being a woman, because "Oi'm hicking non-boinery, gois! Geeez!"

Shut the fuck up with that shit, Izzzyzzz. Your real name is literally 'Isabella'. That's just a girlier 'Isabel', which was already one of the girliest names out there to begin with.

Anyway, regardless, I think this video and indeed the whole 'controversy' highlights just how utterly fucking unable to handle the banter men are. David and Goliath literally sold shirts which had racist jokes on them, as well as rape jokes, but it was a silly, childish, clearly-never-designed-to-be-taken-seriously shirt about boys being stupid that had the MRA contingent up in arms and caused all this controversy.

"Oh, but imagine if the sexes were reversed and it was "Girls are stupid, throw rocks at them"?! That would NEVAR be allowed!!"
Nigger, that is literally standard operating procedure in patriarchal third world shitholes the world over.

It's a funny, cute, silly T-shirt for girls. Grow up and stop having a fucking mantrum, you gigantic fucking babies.

 

[The Noise]

For those not keeping up with the news in the Balldo world, a group of true and honest farmers showed up in a big group to take notes on the Rekieta hearing. Ethan Ralph managed to snap a photo of the group as they were leaving:


As your discerning eyes might perceive, there is a woman in this group. Now, a grand majority of the people posting in the trial thread were respectful and elected to not leave a weird-ass comment.

However, some of our resident exceptional individuals were unfortunately too enraptured by a blurry PNG of a ffffffeeemale to resist leaving a remark:





luigismanslave sums it up:


There was a black dude in the group and the forum that throws "nigger" around like it's going out of style commended him like he was a war hero.* Meanwhile this girl gets to have her appearance transvestigated because she doesn't look like a Brazillian pornstar. KFers talk shit about women so consistently you'd think they were a forum filled entirely with incredibly spiteful faggots.

*Not that he didn't deserve any of it.

 

[BlastMonk]

Recently, with the outcomes of some of my friendships, I am led to believe that most moids don't want a friendship with women but only to fuck them or "conquer" them.

It's actually pretty insane how some of the men I've met can't take no for an answer, or they will just disappear after I set boundaries where I explicitly said I don't want anything more than a friendship. I don't hate all men but holy shit.

I've seen and experinced personally the opposite version of this where woman will avoid talking or looking at a man they rejected. Even if he was very polite about it, accepted the no and didn't start treating her differently some woman completely deperson a man they were friends with seemingly as punishment for him devleoping romantic feelings. I think its normal for men to have some sort of attraction to their female friends since they're funny, clever and enjoyable to be around. Men are also socialised to be a womans friend first if they are romantically interested in her, but then they're punished for not pushing his romantic feelings for her earlier when he doesn't know her well and accused of faking his friendship if shes not interested back. You can accept her boundaries with no ill will or complaints, because shes allowed to have preferences, boundaries and so on obviously but you still get treated like a freak or weirdo.

Some men are just losers/ unlucky in love and shouldn't be demonised as misogynists who don't see woman as people when they fail romantically.

 

[crazedaze]

I've seen and experinced personally the opposite version of this where woman will avoid talking or looking at a man they rejected. Even if he was very polite about it, accepted the no and didn't start treating her differently some woman completely deperson a man they were friends with seemingly as punishment for him devleoping romantic feelings. I think its normal for men to have some sort of attraction to their female friends since they're funny, clever and enjoyable to be around. Men are also socialised to be a womans friend first if they are romantically interested in her, but then they're punished for not pushing his romantic feelings for her earlier when he doesn't know her well and accused of faking his friendship if shes not interested back. You can accept her boundaries with no ill will or complaints, because shes allowed to have preferences, boundaries and so on obviously but you still get treated like a freak or weirdo.

Some men are just losers/ unlucky in love and shouldn't be demonised as misogynists who don't see woman as people when they fail romantically.

And women are allowed to feel awkward about it and not want to be your friend anymore? Maybe she's young, maybe she's allowed to feel creeped out? It screams "catastrophizing" to me that someone is "depersoning you and demonizing you and treating you like a weirdo freak" for not being the same buddy-buddy friend after you tried it on her and it didn't go as planned... I'd say accept it and move on and realize that this does sometimes end a friendship

 

[redcent]

Late and gay I know I'm too busy

Women have to be conservative in the "mommy bangmaid who will put up with my bullshit because Jeebus" kind of way, not in the "she shares my political opinions and we work as equal teammates" kind of way.

There's Christian women everywhere. They tend though to be educated enough on the Bible not to let that fly though.

Decided to stroll by one of @JambledUpWords posted articles in A&N re women getting back into the kitchen.

Legitimately lol lmao'd at the moids decrying (lack of) cooking and that woman "need to bring more to the table than pussy".



Watching these genetic dead ends flail about women needing to do anything for them after their artificial control of our finances and movement is history, is fucking hilarious.

No, retard, what do you bring to the table? Beggars can't be choosers. Suffa, scrotes.

This brings to mind my great grandmother according to my mother (who was raised by her), a feminist from the very early 20th century.

She married my great grandfather and she cooked for him. But everytime she made food for him, he complained "but it's not like my mother made it"

Honestly she was trying, but she cooked and he kept on with his same complaint, until she had enough and just shoved the plate of food in his face "Is THAT how your mother made it?"

Trad waifu was never good enough the guys didn't appreciate what they had and took it for granted. This is the result. And if they want a fancy feast there's resturaunts for that shit. You can even uber it to be brought home. Or learn to cook it isn't hard. Why are they bitching?