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[The Last Stand]

Weird how the same group of people who decry being seen as "sex objects" resort to withholding sexual interactions to get what they want.
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In my neck of the woods, a woman that wants to have sex freely is known as a "ho." Just saying.

 

[Gehenna]

Yeah, I've come to that conclusion as well. It seems the mainstream protestors aren't letting the black bloc set up inside their protests. I don't know if that's an order from above or just the people on the ground don't want that sort of heat. Seems that there's a quite a bit of acrimony and distrust going on behind the scenes of the various encampments.

Black Bloc works by ingratiating itself into the host group through perceived shared grievance. They superficially support the host group's cause and feed on it to rile them up to greater aggression. In short, they amplify, not start. When the host group is riled enough to already be disruptive in the daylight they use said group aa cover for greater violence in the night.

The issue here is that the host group isn't actually angry enough to amplify. Largely their protests are performative rather than legitimate. Ironically, you have at least two other groups like Black Bloc which want things to go nuts but aren't finding what they need at the ground level to kick it off.

We and they are equally disappointed it seems.

 

[STARS158]

I wonder how long til they start producing videos where they don't even need TV "experts" to come on to spin things? What if they could back then, just have made an AI George Floyd vid where he's brutally beaten to death?

 

[OrangeJuliusEvola]

Black Bloc works by ingratiating itself into the host group through perceived shared grievance. They superficially support the host group's cause and feed on it to rile them up to greater aggression. In short, they amplify, not start. When the host group is riled enough to already be disruptive in the daylight they use said group aa cover for greater violence in the night.

The issue here is that the host group isn't actually angry enough to amplify. Largely their protests are performative rather than legitimate. Ironically, you have at least two other groups like Black Bloc which want things to go nuts but aren't finding what they need at the ground level to kick it off.

We and they are equally disappointed it seems.

I agree with the anger part, but there's the other side of it as well. There's a lot of ill-will that's been generated in the past few years with the instigator groups not respecting the wishes of more mainstream protestors and seizing control of the direction of protests, despite being numerically inferior. There's also the fact that when shit hits the fan, they extract their guys and leave those unaffiliated with them to take the brunt of the truncheons and pepper balls.

They've been acting quite high-handedly since 2020 and it's affecting their operations.

 

[Dog-O-Tron 5000v5.0]

Oprah was clearly supposed to be their big Hulk Hogan moment. Just vapidly telling everyone to embrace the Political Prosperity Gospel of "Joy."

 

[oh no its pipkun]

I agree with the anger part, but there's the other side of it as well. There's a lot of ill-will that's been generated in the past few years with the instigator groups not respecting the wishes of more mainstream protestors and seizing control of the direction of protests, despite being numerically inferior. There's also the fact that when shit hits the fan, they extract their guys and leave those unaffiliated with them to take the brunt of the truncheons and pepper balls.

They've been acting quite high-handedly since 2020 and it's affecting their operations.

one of the leaders of rose city antifa was also convicted of rioting in portland. the times are changing (because kamala needs any victory).

 

[Overly Serious]

Just reading that made me go huh? The fuck have I been missing on X?

I wouldn't say all of that is nonsense. Nick Fuentes mattering? Yes - that's nonsense. People being put off by Trump's support for Israel? Not nonsense - Trump attracts people who want to put America and its national interests first. That's not really compatible with unconditional appeasement of the Israeli lobby and endless gibs for Israel and potentially even going to war on behalf of Israel. How much of a disincentive this is to supporting Trump I couldn't quantify. For a start, the alternative is Kamala Harris! But I believe it undermines some of his support. After all, how many people on these forums would support Trump but wish he'd kowtow less to Israel?

And RFK giving him a chance of winning? No, he already has that in spades. But would bring in extra votes? I believe so. A degree of bipartisanship has a strong appeal to all those people who feel "the Left left me!". After all, when Bernie was kicked out by the Clinton cabal in 2016, a good chunk of his supporters didn't shrug and vote for Hillary, they defected to Trump! They're more anti-establishment than they are anything else. RFK on board will bring them in.

I believe both of these are true because they're true for me.

 

[FMW13]

I wouldn't say all of that is nonsense. Nick Fuentes mattering? Yes - that's nonsense. People being put off by Trump's support for Israel? Not nonsense - Trump attracts people who want to put America and its national interests first. That's not really compatible with unconditional appeasement of the Israeli lobby and endless gibs for Israel and potentially even going to war on behalf of Israel. How much of a disincentive this is to supporting Trump I couldn't quantify. For a start, the alternative is Kamala Harris! But I believe it undermines some of his support. After all, how many people on these forums would support Trump but wish he'd kowtow less to Israel?

And RFK giving him a chance of winning? No, he already has that in spades. But would bring in extra votes? I believe so. A degree of bipartisanship has a strong appeal to all those people who feel "the Left left me!". After all, when Bernie was kicked out by the Clinton cabal in 2016, a good chunk of his supporters didn't shrug and vote for Hillary, they defected to Trump! They're more anti-establishment than they are anything else. RFK on board will bring them in.

I believe both of these are true because they're true for me.

I agree about him supporting Israel, but let’s face it the Jews want to make sure you have their back and if you don’t say so good luck. I just think from seeing clips from this convention that democrats have a lot of trouble on their hands with normies.

 

[0713]

Honestly, I am not actually expecting proper riots. Sadly. There isn't enough actual anger in the crowd for Antifa to do its usual schtick. You need a base level of tension for them to act on and its just not there. Unless something changes substantially on the last day, we sadly won't get the full show.

Bunch of posers.

 

[More AWS-8Q Than You]

I wouldn't say all of that is nonsense. Nick Fuentes mattering? Yes - that's nonsense. People being put off by Trump's support for Israel? Not nonsense - Trump attracts people who want to put America and its national interests first. That's not really compatible with unconditional appeasement of the Israeli lobby and endless gibs for Israel and potentially even going to war on behalf of Israel. How much of a disincentive this is to supporting Trump I couldn't quantify. For a start, the alternative is Kamala Harris! But I believe it undermines some of his support. After all, how many people on these forums would support Trump but wish he'd kowtow less to Israel?

And RFK giving him a chance of winning? No, he already has that in spades. But would bring in extra votes? I believe so. A degree of bipartisanship has a strong appeal to all those people who feel "the Left left me!". After all, when Bernie was kicked out by the Clinton cabal in 2016, a good chunk of his supporters didn't shrug and vote for Hillary, they defected to Trump! They're more anti-establishment than they are anything else. RFK on board will bring them in.

I believe both of these are true because they're true for me.

Trump's Evangelical base wants Israel supported in some way and they throw enough money around that pretty much every world leader has to at least go and make a show at the Wall, whether they really give a fuck or not. Most people on the Internet who seriously care are also too autistic to consider that it's all performative. I don't like it, but I'm a political realist, so I care about what currently is and we can worry about ought later.

The only people on the Right making a big stink about it worship a closeted gay obvious Fed, which makes sense when you consider that most of the Groypers at this point are double digit IQ browns.

 

[The Nothingness]

This was pretty fucked.

I think I did some quotations before that. It was dumb as fuck. A lot of football talk.

I heard Tin-pot Tim used the dreaded f-word ("fight") on the radio this morning. And the audience response ("We win!") made it sound like I was back in 1930s Germany

 

[Collections Agent]

Honestly, I am not actually expecting proper riots. Sadly. There isn't enough actual anger in the crowd for Antifa to do its usual schtick. You need a base level of tension for them to act on and its just not there. Unless something changes substantially on the last day, we sadly won't get the full show.

Imagine going home to your family and thinking "wow I screamed at a fence for several days I did such a good job " while the people around you are struggling to pay bills

 

[Damocles_Sword]

Black Bloc works by ingratiating itself into the host group through perceived shared grievance. They superficially support the host group's cause and feed on it to rile them up to greater aggression. In short, they amplify, not start. When the host group is riled enough to already be disruptive in the daylight they use said group aa cover for greater violence in the night.

The issue here is that the host group isn't actually angry enough to amplify. Largely their protests are performative rather than legitimate. Ironically, you have at least two other groups like Black Bloc which want things to go nuts but aren't finding what they need at the ground level to kick it off.

We and they are equally disappointed it seems.

It's pretty clear that outside of the useful idiots like Phil these black bloc and antifa groups are DNC pawns. The "protests" we have been seeing are about what I expected, a token amount of heavily tard wrangled phils to rattle the fences and give the dems cause to say "see, we're not with them".

 

[Dog-O-Tron 5000v5.0]

I wonder if the failure of the riots ro deliver shows the impotency of the radical left core when bereft of hidden support and orders from TPTB?

Certainly served a useful purpose. They looked like a small bunch of radical crazy freaks. If any non-fringe Dems were leaning towards supporting Hamas/Palestine vs Israel they're back on the reservation now.

 

[Michael Wade]

This whole border thing has me confused.

So they want people to come in, yet they're talking about making the border stronger?

they never say "as long as you come here legally" by the way.

The sheriff they brought in is lying trash. years ago was on camera saying how shit the border was. Hope he got a lot of money.

“ to my fellow Republicans at home that want to circle back towards policy, empathy and tone, you know the right thing to do, now do it” -Benedict Arnold

I would like some actual policy. Where the hell is it?

Dept. of Health would probably be a better place for him, but this would also be pretty good. Trump must have a lot of trust in him, (or realistically not that much in anyone else) because it would be a disaster to give this spot to someone isn't 100% loyal to him.

He could have a lot more teeth to go after big pharma but he needs a clean sweep and to fire a fuck ton of people. They have a lot of shit off the books and he needs to be careful. Legit might kill him if he lets his guard down.

wtf is this, Kingdom Hearts now?

Trying to make Trump a kh villain is not a winning strategy if your trying to make him not cool. This reminds me of an early Biden speech too now that I think about it. He talked about light and darkness before he became president.


I feel like the rioters will pull something off now that they know they won't get arrested

 

[draggs]

I wouldn't say all of that is nonsense. Nick Fuentes mattering? Yes - that's nonsense. People being put off by Trump's support for Israel? Not nonsense - Trump attracts people who want to put America and its national interests first. That's not really compatible with unconditional appeasement of the Israeli lobby and endless gibs for Israel and potentially even going to war on behalf of Israel. How much of a disincentive this is to supporting Trump I couldn't quantify. For a start, the alternative is Kamala Harris! But I believe it undermines some of his support. After all, how many people on these forums would support Trump but wish he'd kowtow less to Israel?

And RFK giving him a chance of winning? No, he already has that in spades. But would bring in extra votes? I believe so. A degree of bipartisanship has a strong appeal to all those people who feel "the Left left me!". After all, when Bernie was kicked out by the Clinton cabal in 2016, a good chunk of his supporters didn't shrug and vote for Hillary, they defected to Trump! They're more anti-establishment than they are anything else. RFK on board will bring them in.

I believe both of these are true because they're true for me.

Yes, it is nonsense. Trump being the standard Republican on Israel undermines no support because people like you truly do not understand and probably do not have the ability to understand how small of a minority you are. You aren't half the Party. You aren't a quarter of the Party. You aren't five percent of the Party. You very likely aren't even a tenth of the percent of the Party. You're tied down by being associated (fairly or unfairly, which is beside the point; that's politics) with Nazism, and retards like Fuentes and Candace Owens. Remember when her sperging about Israel the first time, getting in a gay catfight with Ben Shapiro, was supposed to mean something? Whatever happened to that? Ben kept being the smarmy rat-faced little B-list (pretty close to C-, but still B-list) conservative internet figure, and she went from D-list to a letter that would have to be invented to convey how low she is on the totem pole now. Real nothing ever happens hours

I don't hate to break it to you, but you can grumble about how your opinion of Israel's relationship with the United States is incompatible with "America first" (whatever that means, like all good slogans it is a big tent) as you like, the amount of MAGAts who agree with you is infinitesimal, and of the ones who do agree, the proportion that even have Israel on their list of top political priorities is equally infinitesimal. Real nobody cares hours. Basic bitch normie Republican vooters (they like Israel) are 90% of MAGA, 5% are Reagan Democrat-style people (they like Israel too), and the rest are not-interested-in-politics-until-Trump people. Those ones don't know and/or don't give a shit about Israel. You can lay out to all these people how supporting Israel awkshoolly isn't America First, and you'll tear your hair out after hearing very nearly everyone reply, 'Yeah we give lots of stuff to Israel but they fight muh terrorists with that stuff and they get Ws. Like Troomp did with ISIS and that Iranian general guy!'

The Democratic Party is far more fertile ground for you. Or it would be, if it weren't for all the communism, and troonery, and niggerworship, and the mutual fear and loathing that will never be overcome by your little patch of common ground regarding the perfidious Joos

How many people on these forums? Who cares? What are you talking about, 500-1000 people? And not exactly a group representative of the washed masses of normies, and usually proud of it, remember?

Standard MAGA congresscritters are all way up Israel's ass except Thomas Massie, no one is primarying them much less winning over it. Massie himself doesn't have anything in particular against Israel, he's against being up anyone's ass and is a bit of an autist so he hit back like a frenly Autists & Niggers pasta argument when the Israel lobby criticized him. He hasn't been doing it since then, though, has he? It's not a speshul issue for him, it's a general one

You're mistaking quantity of sperging on the internet by nobodies for some kind of real-world political boomlet. It's wishful thinking

 

[oh no its pipkun]

I feel like the rioters will pull something off now that they know they won't get arrested

their numbers are increasing as the days go by so i hope something happens. maybe they plan to interrupt kamala's speech

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

Cook County State’s Attorney Declares that DNC Rioters Will Not be Prosecuted

Even the Democrats are bored with the Palestine faggots not doing anything.

 

[Sniperwoof]

"Sex will be illegal if Dramfp gets elected!"

you wot mate?

 

[Jhonny Jhon]

I honestly cannot wait for the day the Israel-block fucking dies. Only boomers still believe that Israel has to be protected at all costs(muh Greatest Ally! Muh Chosen People!). In ten to twenty years, there shall be no more support for Israel. It will make for an interesting time in the Middle East.