Megathread SRS and GRS surgeons and associated horrors - the medical community of experimental surgeons, the secret community of home butchers

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If she feels that her legs are now disproportionately long compared to the length of her arms, why did she not also lengthen the length of her arms as well to maintain the same proportion? It is also expensive, but she already blown the money on being taller.

I am not that familiar with limb-lengthening surgery, but what are the long-term effects and complication rates?
Not bad in the short term but pretty horrific in the long term. There's chronic pain and the regenerated bone is weaker and more prone to breakage so you can't do any strenuous activity. The older you get the worse the symptoms and pain will get. Many patients eventually need canes and walkers after a few years.

There was actually a documentary about a dwarf who got leg lengthening and he ended up killing himself over the chronic pain.

Thankfully leg lengthening surgery isn't easily attainable as it, like SRS, is basically a grift that shady surgeons are using to line their pockets. It should be illegal to do for cosmetic reasons. In fact, it mostly has been illegal to do in 1st world places but I've now seen it performed in countries like Canada.

I could compare it to puberty blockers quite well. It's an uncommon procedure; its primary problems will only arise well after it's been performed; it was originally something that was used for an actual medical condition (precocious puberty, dwarfism) but is now being appropriated for a shallow psychological problem (gender dysphoria, height dysphoria) that should be fixed with therapy.
 
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Dare we even ask how a stoma contracts gonorrhea?

I don’t think you have to ask. Your first instinct would be correct.

There’s always a depraved fuckwit somewhere who will adhere to the “any hole is a goal” mindset.

Worse yet - I had a 50-something patient who was your garden-variety crack whore… before the colostomy.

After the stoma, she was able to charge more, and cultivated a rather exclusive clientele based solely on her offering that particular service.

She was basically using a revolving door to obtain antibiotics.

It was one of the most grotesque things I’ve ever dealt with.

However, she did so consensually. Not everyone was so lucky, and there was one very unforgettable and unfortunate patient who was subjected to far worse. I will not be giving detail. Except to say that there are very valid reasons why women choose the bear.
 
It's kind of strange/hilarious that absolutely no one has commented on her suddenly gaining three inches in height after (presumably) laying low for a few months. I find it unlikely that no one knows she had surgery considering the intense recovery. The description of her proportions reminds me of the inverse of that troon earlier itt who got limb shortening surgery and ended up looking like an orangutan, except he was deluded into thinking he passed and that it was a good investment (at around $50k). Can't imagine having to live with doing that to yourself.
 
No. Gruffin had puberty blockers young and was taking hormones for a good decade before she got the surgery; she was 14 or 15 when she started T, iirc, so well before the current trans epidemic really took off. She was likely always headed for surgical transition considering her history, and she came of age around the time of the pandemic. I suspect that has much more to do with the surgery dates than your simplistic reading of things.

Though her parents seemed supportive there's a decent chance they either told her to wait til she was 18 for surgical intervention or she waited until she had a job with insurance that would cover some of it, since her family don't strike me as being particularly wealthy or able to cover this shit OOP.
I don't think my reading is simplistic.

Most girls and young women really tend to need connection and emotional support, especially at transition points in life. If they don't get that they latch onto something weird/stupid. Even a lot of transmen get the top surgery but not the bottom. There was a FTM going by Noah on I am Jazz, she had the top but not bottom surgery. A lot of trannies, even long-term ones, don't get bottom surgery because there are so many complications.

If Gruffin had an IRL friend she saw regularly - not online only - I think she could've had a different outcome. Sitting at home on Tumblr all day is not good for you.

Gruffin was living in Woonsocket which is not a nice part of RI, her parents probably aren't wealthy. But she also was under 26. Under Obama-era reforms she could've still been on a parent's insurance until age 26.

If one of her parents has a job working for the city or state, she could've been covered by great insurance. A lot of jobs that don't pay well (teacher for example) have excellent insurance and retirement benefits.
 
I am not a medical professional, but is this really not experimental still specifically for men? I know women can get labiaplasty, but the butchering/rearranging of a penis into a vulva still seems far from safe.

not experimental at all. it's external plastic surgery; they simply use existing tissues to construct the external "look" of a vulva. the loose skin remaining after castration are what is used; these tissues and the skin are already attached right at the body site where they would be sculpted. no depth means no internal surgeries, dilation, open wounds, rearranging.

surface level plastic surgery on soft tissues. less risky than even nose jobs, there's no cartilage to rearrange, no bones to break.

penectomy and orchiectomy are time tested procedures, men can need them for a variety of medical reasons. (same with mastectomy).
 
Anyone have that image of the troon with the horribly deformed disgusting looking tube breasts. I think it's been posted a few times. Trying to teach my friends about the horrors of hormones.
Was it this?
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not experimental at all. it's external plastic surgery; they simply use existing tissues to construct the external "look" of a vulva. the loose skin remaining after castration are what is used; these tissues and the skin are already attached right at the body site where they would be sculpted. no depth means no internal surgeries, dilation, open wounds, rearranging.

surface level plastic surgery on soft tissues. less risky than even nose jobs, there's no cartilage to rearrange, no bones to break.

penectomy and orchiectomy are time tested procedures, men can need them for a variety of medical reasons. (same with mastectomy).
How about rearranging the severed bell-end into a "clitoris"? That's typically a feature of the so-called vulvaplasty that is offered as a no-depth option for troons, and as this thread has repeatedly proven, those things have a tendency to rot/fall off.
 
Well, he died, and she was still distraught. Like, this guy dying was definitely helpful to a lot of people. It destroyed his mom anyway.
Yep. Seeing the effect that a child's death has on parents - even if it was an accidental death, not a violent one or suicide etc - for years, for ever, after, makes you realise that no matter what, no matter how low and how terrified you feel, you really just Aren't Allowed to suicide, while you still have them living on the planet.

Regarding Gruffins appearence, she might have been able to disguise herself with a haircut and going full in with the makeup and styling herself cool if she remained presenting as a girl.
These things require a lot of consistent effort from the less fortunate gal.
I don't know if someone inclined to poonerism would bother with all that anyway, but being a balding "man" stripped any disguise away from her so her full dysgenicness had no shield or shade.
She didn't even have a "big Irish head" so much as she had a macrocephalic FAS balloon, like a literal pug, as in, 'my head makes up roughly a third of the size of my tiny frame U°°U"

Trauma also causes people to stay small.. Can't remember the ins and outs but do remember learning that fact in like, A Level psychology class.
It might be something to link in with the fact that all these pooners are fucking tiny way way too much to be a coincidence. Like they are the smallest of women.
 
Yep. Seeing the effect that a child's death has on parents - even if it was an accidental death, not a violent one or suicide etc - for years, for ever, after, makes you realise that no matter what, no matter how low and how terrified you feel, you really just Aren't Allowed to suicide, while you still have them living on the planet.

Regarding Gruffins appearence, she might have been able to disguise herself with a haircut and going full in with the makeup and styling herself cool if she remained presenting as a girl.
These things require a lot of consistent effort from the less fortunate gal.
I don't know if someone inclined to poonerism would bother with all that anyway, but being a balding "man" stripped any disguise away from her so her full dysgenicness had no shield or shade.
She didn't even have a "big Irish head" so much as she had a macrocephalic FAS balloon, like a literal pug, as in, 'my head makes up roughly a third of the size of my tiny frame U°°U"

Trauma also causes people to stay small.. Can't remember the ins and outs but do remember learning that fact in like, A Level psychology class.
It might be something to link in with the fact that all these pooners are fucking tiny way way too much to be a coincidence. Like they are the smallest of women.
I don't think she was actually macrocephalic, it was just the lack of development of her jaw and chin that made the upper regions of her skull seem bloated.

Make up, hairdos, custom-tailored clothes... There was no way she was ever going to successfully conceal her dysgenics. They were just that severe.

I found a rare cap of a fullbody shot of Gruffin:

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What do you even call this body type?
 
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