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[LaxerBRO]

Some people think it’s controversial to take away a lane from cars and to put in a bike lane.

Fuck off. It's never just one lane. These fucks want to take away two to three lanes in one direction.


One lane in both directions is for your fucking bikes.
Another lane is for fucking buses.
The third lane is for some bullshit sidewalk expansion that will only serve as a place where the homeless can pitch their tents.

So now, we have a four lane boulevard turned into a one lane road in each direction. Of course this creates a traffic hell for those living farther away in the suburbs which is the overall goal.

Go to hell.

 

[Apple Porcupine]

Back from a nice vacation, won't dox myself too much but I did spend several days in a much larger city than where I live and I got around without driving, wanted to give some quick (relevant) thoughts.

Let's start with the positives:

• Not having to worry about parking is nice.
• The buses and actual trains were clean and ran on time.
• That is the end of the list.

Now for the bad that I've now confirmed Jason outright ignores because it goes against his agenda:

• There were plenty of instances where the time difference between walking and public transit was negligible, while driving would have been significantly faster. The "Downs-Thompson paradox" doesn't apply because the buses we took all had their own lanes, they just also happen to have to make more stops and take more roundabout routes. They weren't getting stuck in the same traffic as the cars.
• The whole "cities aren't loud, cars are loud" thing completely ignores the most common form of public transit in America: the subway. Holy shit is it unbearably loud, the cars squealed like crazy anytime it made the slightest of turns; I'd like to see Jason take his sound measuring device and put it there for a day. And this isn't something any amount of funding is going to fix, you'd have to shut down the entire network for months which would cripple the city for anyone using it.
• Speaking of noise, while I wasn't exactly culturally enriched on the buses in terms of public freakout, the amount of people that openly watch videos or have loud conversations with someone on speaker phone (usually in a different language) is absurd, most active deterrent I'd have to trying it back home and I'm counting the threat of murder.
• Walking around was pleasant (in the nicest summer weather conditions earthly possible, if this had been winter it'd be a different story), but there is absolutely no way it's close to a "gym of life", that's nonsense. You're not going for a hike every day dude.
• This isn't a negative for me per se, but the ticketing people actually forgot to charge us multiple times. I actually wonder if it happens enough to be statistically significant on any charts Jason loves to use when they're not inconvenient to him (remember the number one rule of data journalism, kids: go in with an agenda and fudge the numbers until you've proven your point).

Was this all tolerable while I was on vacation? Yeah absolutely, I was with friends and family and we had tons of fun going to museums and parks and shit, and even if walking took longer we got to talk about stuff on the way. Is it even remotely feasible to do this every day? Absolutely the fuck not, I'd personally go insane. If I was there by myself it'd be especially bad, having friends to talk with means any bad parts of getting around were hardly noticeable, I'm not gonna meet new randos like it's Cheers and I'm convinced Jason just straight up has no friends. Plus our hotel was situated in basically the dead center of everything along with mostly a bunch of other hotels, there were no real apartments or housing.

Also with this new perspective in mind I don't understand what this was about:

Jason drove a car in Toronto:

This is genuinely either a skill issue or he's gotten so up his own ass he refuses to sit on "plastic chairs" because those are for the commoners, which he's risen above through the ultra-virtuous act of having a YouTube channel where he whines about everything. Which is made all the more aggravating when he uses his favorite "the rich should use public transportation" shtick.

 

[Meriasek]

the subway. Holy shit is it unbearably loud, the cars squealed like crazy anytime it made the slightest of turns;

To be fair, that's an American problem, I think. Or rather, a problem of older rolling stock and tracks, the subway here in Munich is pretty quiet. The few older trains are louder, but most of the rolling stock is pretty modern and they're very quiet. They don't run above ground tho.
I was in Vilnius recently and they had a lot of trolley busses, and you'd think that they'd be quieter than regular busses due to being electric, but they had a bunch of really old ones there were even louder than modern regular busses because they had massively loud cooling systems.
There is an increasing number of battery electric busses in German cities, those are also nice and quiet.

 

[quaawaa]

/r/fuckcars member misses having somewhere to store items while out of the house:

If you live in San Francisco, you can't store anything in your car, so having a trunk isn't really a benefit:

Don't carry anything and just buy stuff if you need anything:




Just go back home after every trip:


Cargo bikes can hold a lot if you have "clever Tetris skills":

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[Xarpho's Return]

/r/fuckcars member misses having somewhere to store items while out of the house:

Usually when someone misses something they would rather have it back (if the alternative wasn't objectively better, like "I miss seeing what was on TV at 5:30 pm...but I like my private media server").

Removed from that, it's just something you would really rather have back. ("I miss my dog.", "I miss sleeping in and waking up to a cup of espresso", "I miss not having to walk around a colostomy bag", etc.)

Like any institution of evil, Reddit is trying hard to extinguish those lingering moments of regret and sanity.

 

[Inspector Rex]

Russians seem to get it too, but I have a feeling Russians don't travel far from where they live very often

Oh, we do travel a lot. E.g. going "south" (towards Black Sea which is a main vacation destination in Russia) on a car is extremely common. Hell, I've made a ~2000km (1200 miles) drive there last year and federal highways were PACKED with people, even toll roads which are considered overpriced by general public.

I think the vast majority of people here will consider you retarded if you say that most people don't need a car (at least those who can afford it).

 

[LaxerBRO]

/r/fuckcars member misses having somewhere to store items while out of the house:
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What if I want to go surf dawn patrol before I head to downtown Los Angeles for work?

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But the board rental place doesn't open until 9 by then I would have missed all the good waves and the lineup will be huge.

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I got really good on a boogie board and am thinking of moving to a Al Merrick short board, but the surf shop doesn't rent that type.


Look, plenty of kids surf and ride a bike. In fact, many of the schools along the coasts have surf teams where surfing is a early AM PE activity.

But let's talk about adults. As a adult, how do these people work a real job?

 

[IdiotPlusPlus]

You're talking about those barriers that are a bunch of square steel poles with steel cables stretched between them right? I've seen multiple cars flip over those fuckers or spin along them and get ripped apart.

As I mentioned, not sure if they are built differently here, but here they are breakaway posts with the cables between them, so if they get hit by cars they tend to either bounce off them or rub against to a stop, as the posts breaking gives some slack before they get taught again, plus they are designed that vehicles usually try to 'dive' under if the attack angle is too sharp, if they get hit high(would have to be airborn) the posts snapping means the ropes can go underneath and try to spring back up and tangle in the undercarriage to try and prevent incursions.

The wire anchors at both ends of each section also have breakaway strain relief as a final force reliever before they fail if the impact is really high.

If you ignore the sappy shit, this vid shows it well, and it's from a real test where they got a Territory(2.2t) up to 100km/h and aimed it at the barrier, from the point of impact the speed dropped from around 90km/h to just under 60km/h in the first 6m of wire, you can see the wires keeping the car from lifting and from entering the oncoming till the driver can regain control.

Shit like this urbanists hate because 'muh cars' but it's the real stuff that ends up saving lives.

 

[Gentlebastard]

This isn't a negative for me per se, but the ticketing people actually forgot to charge us multiple times. I actually wonder if it happens enough to be statistically significant on any charts Jason loves to use when they're not inconvenient to him (remember the number one rule of data journalism, kids: go in with an agenda and fudge the numbers until you've proven your point).

That might be a factor of culture and populational composition. If a society values rule of law and forward planning, among other guiding morals, you get people who will pay for their ride regardless of policing, because they understand its necessity. Going around asking for people's tickets isn't as necessary when all but a few assholes/cheap fucks pay their due to keep a service they consider important or essential working. I'll bet pre-immigrant flood Germany had little to no problems with fare evasion, due to their nationwide functional autism and love for regulations. Same goes for Japan and their (sometimes quite fucked up) sense of community.

On the other hand, you have places like New York, where turnstile-jumping is tolerated. Not only that, fighting fare evaders is probably a life-ruining move; we've seen that, when people complain about fare jumpers, the rabble begins to foam at the mouth and cry racism, because it's mostly blacks, latinos and illegal immigrants who purposefully avoid paying into the system they, presumably, need.

 

[Xarpho's Return]

That might be a factor of culture and populational composition. If a society values rule of law and forward planning, among other guiding morals, you get people who will pay for their ride regardless of policing, because they understand its necessity. Going around asking for people's tickets isn't as necessary when all but a few assholes/cheap fucks pay their due to keep a service they consider important or essential working. I'll bet pre-immigrant flood Germany had little to no problems with fare evasion, due to their nationwide functional autism and love for regulations. Same goes for Japan and their (sometimes quite fucked up) sense of community.

On the other hand, you have places like New York, where turnstile-jumping is tolerated. Not only that, fighting fare evaders is probably a life-ruining move; we've seen that, when people complain about fare jumpers, the rabble begins to foam at the mouth and cry racism, because it's mostly blacks, latinos and illegal immigrants who purposefully avoid paying into the system they, presumably, need.

Europeans and Japanese have high societal trust partly due to common culture and race, America doesn't. As Europe continues to get non-white immigrants they're about to learn some hard lessons.

 

[Grapefruit Soda]

Europeans and Japanese have high societal trust partly due to common culture and race, America doesn't. As Europe continues to get non-white immigrants they're about to learn some hard lessons.

Singapore has a non homogenous population, but is high trust, I know that racism is fetch here, but the real issues is a non-homogenous culture, and lack of enforcement that creates low trust enviroments. Also lol euros high trust, ask them about gypsies, or pickpockets in any tourist area (they've been there forever).

 

[Midwit]

you get people who will pay for their ride regardless of policing, because they understand its necessity.

I've been on a fair few trains where the conductors didn't even check for my ticket (which were at most 4 cars) and since a lot of stations round my way are small enough to forgo ticket machines I've been evading fares purely by circumstance.

Singapore has a non homogenous population, but is high trust, I know that racism is fetch here, but the real issues is a non-homogenous culture, and lack of enforcement that creates low trust enviroments.

Singapore's laws were also based explicitly on pre-war Britain but shince then we ended up electing a bunch of communists into government afterwards and everything went to shit. Once again Hobbes has been proven right.

 

[LaxerBRO]

Just wanted to point out that r/fuckcars has not addressed the Canadian rail strike yet. While it does not involve the entire viaRail system, segments are affected.

 

[Apple Porcupine]

Just wanted to point out that r/fuckcars has not addressed the Canadian rail strike yet. While it does not involve the entire viaRail system, segments are affected.

Developing story but it looks like the Canadian government have decided to not be total cucks for the first time in history.

From a different article:

While the work stoppage lasted less than 17 hours, it threatened to disrupt shipments of cars, timber, petroleum products and grain across Canada and the United States.

They'd see it as good.

 

[Lobster Cult High Priest]

Developing story but it looks like the Canadian government have decided to not be total cucks for the first time in history.

From a different article:

They'd see it as good.

That's only because that's a job for Blue collar White guys so we have to crush the strike instantly.

 

[quaawaa]

/r/fuckcars user loves that the Nintendo museum has no parking:


Wait, what's that?

The museum does not offer parking spaces for [...] bicycles

Do not travel to the museum by [...] bicycles

The urbanist mind cannot comprehend this:














"I guess you guys aren't ready for that yet. But your kids are gonna love it":

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[Midwit]

Nintendo museum has no parking

Maybe not, but there's a multi-story just down the road and a whole bunch more nearby.

 

[Xarpho's Return]

/r/fuckcars user loves that the Nintendo museum has no parking:

100% that the OP saw "no parking for cars" and immediately posted it before noticing that it also told cyclists to fuck off. Still, can't blame him for posting, the self-owning is fantastic.

 

[Markass the Worst]

100% that the OP saw "no parking for cars" and immediately posted it before noticing that it also told cyclists to fuck off. Still, can't blame him for posting, the self-owning is fantastic.

Definitely a self own. Not only is there no bike parking but it comes across as the museum being too lazy to put any sort of parking in rather than them being ideological anti-car urbanists.

 

[Apple Porcupine]

"I guess you guys aren't ready for that yet. But your kids are gonna love it":

Jason will eventually get to this point and remove the "Just" from his channel name.