Megathread SRS and GRS surgeons and associated horrors - the medical community of experimental surgeons, the secret community of home butchers

Reminds me of the mother who went undercover to show just how fast it is in some places despite her deliberately throwing up red flags each time. It took her less than a year to get approved with the Kaiser centre and booked in for everything, including phallo… and the troons cried that she was wasting resources and that it was too long.
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She went undercover as non-binary.
“I was able to instantly change my medical records to reflect my new gender identity and pronouns. Despite never being diagnosed with gender dysphoria, I was able to obtain a prescription for testosterone and approval for a “gender-affirming” double mastectomy from my doctor. It took only three more months (90 days) to be approved for surgery to remove my uterus and have a fake penis constructed from the skin of my thigh or forearm. Therapy was never recommended.”
That's fucking horrifying. It's like they want to get them deep into the process as fast as they can before they have time for second thoughts.

Shit if I knew how easy it was to get a script for Testosterone back when I was a gym rat in my early 30's I should have got my wife to go tell the doctor she wanted to be a Pooner :story: although I doubt it was that easy back then, seems it's only recently they've abandoned all sense and safe guards.

Jokes aside though that is truly horrifying and shows how badly this whole thing needs some independent oversight from people who don't have this vested profit interest or otherwise ideological bias in pushing this shit.
It's no wonder there's people with regrets speaking up, and I'll bet for every questioner or detransitioner that speaks up there are half a dozen that either tried and were bullied or scared into silence by the Cult, or simply don't dare even mention their doubts or regrets, as the Cult treats those regrets and doubts as Heresy and detransitioners as Apostates.
 
Exulansic claims someone contacted her about Gruffin's death and provided more information. Take it with a grain of salt because Sierra is a lolcow too. But a second, catastrophic stroke makes sense in context.

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I have received additional unsolicited information - screenshots of an exchange someone else initiated with one of the relatives named in the obituary - that Griffin Sivret did indeed die of a second, catastrophic stroke shortly after she was hospitalized for the brain bleed she posted about. After the second stroke, Griffin had surgery to remove a portion of her skull, to allow her inflamed brain to expand without forcing the brainstem to fatally herniate through the foramen magnum, but the damage was done. According to my source, she had no brain function. She never regained consciousness. She was taken off life support after a week. This relative said many people have reached out to him with hateful messages, so I'm reminding y'all to please not harass Griffin's grieving family. I'm not saying you can't judge them or voice your judgments, but you really don't need to send negative judgments to surviving family directly.

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Exulansic claims someone contacted her about Gruffin's death and provided more information. Take it with a grain of salt because Sierra is a lolcow too. But a second, catastrophic stroke makes sense in context.

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Sierra's insistence in inserting herself into Gruffins death when she only found out about it by lurking the Farms, (immediately after a poster here went digging and discovered the obituary Sierra started posting about it) is both one of the most irritating and at the same time funny things about this shit.
She's such a fucking Ghoul, but she doesn't even bother to do her own research.
She's not quite as bad as Buck Angel, who directly copied Bubo's timeline post, word for word, but just changed out the pronouns.
These grifters are fucking ghouls, lurking the Troon murder Forum but don't dare credit us.
 
maybe I'm missing something because I love Exulansic's videos. she is annoying sometimes and has some dumb ideas (like about covid) but her videos are actually informative and entertaining.
Don't get me wrong, I do find her entertaining, and her videos do have a lot of good information, its just Sierra is a giant autist that doesn't realize the optics when she inserts herself into stuff like the Gruffin thing and starts main character'ing with shit like "I tried to snap her out of it, I really did" when what she really did was post snarky videos, are terrible, sure, cover it, but she's been Xeeting about Gruffin for days (ever since a poster here discovered her obit) to where she's posting TentacleDicks phalloplasty pics complete with snide commentary like "septic tentacle skin tube" :story: it makes her look like she's grave dancing.
On the other hand if her drawing attention to what Gruffin did to herself makes even one Pooner think twice, its worth it I guess.
 
My guess is she found out about it on the farms and then did her own cross-referencing. I still think it's worth looking at her stuff. In her latest thread, it seems her family was told it was COVID or something.

Her videos were snarky about Gruffin. I understand the snark, honestly, because Gruffin's behavior was shitty, as was the doctors. But why wouldn't Gruffin see that and think Sierra was just being a total bitch? So I don't but the "I tried to save her!" thing. And that's fine if Sierra wasn't trying to save her. Some people can't be saved, especially over the fucking internet. Gruffin was on the train to Phalloland no matter what. It's fine to say "I'm trying to save others from going down this path."

And I admit this- I totally admit this- Sierra is not nearly as snarky as the average person here. So I'm not throwing stones.
 
maybe I'm missing something because I love Exulansic's videos. she is annoying sometimes and has some dumb ideas (like about covid) but her videos are actually informative and entertaining.
I really enjoy her videos too and I like her deadpan autistic dry sense of humor but there is no doubt she is a lolcow in her own right, check out her thread.
 
maybe I'm missing something because I love Exulansic's videos. she is annoying sometimes and has some dumb ideas (like about covid) but her videos are actually informative and entertaining.
Most people didn't find out she was a real cow until she sperged out so hard she earned her own thread. I myself recommended her videos in this thread in the past, and they are still not bad videos. But she does consistently lie about her credentials, her academic background, the languages she speaks and her heritage. She will always pretend to be an expert in everything when really she is an autist who has not held a job in a very long time.

I don't mind her posting about Gruffin now, she did collect some of the earliest Gruffin Tiktoks and her commentary was good. I just want to be a bit careful with her posting third-hand information to Twitter with no screencaps. Although I think what she posted to Twitter is most likely true because it makes sense with what we know.
 
In the end, I'm ok-ish with these people plagiarizing from the Farms. It means word is spreading, people are getting warned and maybe listening. You don't always know where the whispers start, but they'll soon turn into a yell.

If Buck Angel, of all people, is telling people "Omg don't do this shit," I'm hoping they'll listen.
 
Exulansic claims someone contacted her about Gruffin's death and provided more information. Take it with a grain of salt because Sierra is a lolcow too. But a second, catastrophic stroke makes sense in context.

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So... we know that Gruffin had a history of issues related to blood-clotting; the DVTs, the pulmonary embolisms, the heart attack (I'm assuming she meant an actual heart attack, as in a myocardial infarction and not just some other kind of cardiac event that is sometimes mislabeled a heart attack) so it would make sense if she was on blood-thinners, probably heavy duty ones, like warfarin. This understandably prevents new clots from forming, but as a side effect it makes the person much, much more prone to severe internal and external bleeding, so I'm assuming the first brain bleed as well as the second so far unconfirmed hemorrhagic stroke were consequences of this.

There was no saving her; sooner or later she was going to have a catastrophic clotting or internal bleeding event.
 
Especially with this case of her plundering "heckin' trans murder site" for YouTube content while changing the pronouns feels very grifty and disingenuous.
IIRC, YouTube doesn't allow you to do a heckin' misgenderino. I don't know if it's better or worse, to self-censor to avoid wrongthink, or to self-censor to keep your platform (and money).

The lack of attribution, of course, stands.
She 100percent just rotted through her kidneys, an absolutely horrible way to go. Probably spent at least a week in a coma at the end, hopefully not feeling anything.
If someone is dependent on dialysis, they can just... stop. It's like a ripcord in your existence. The later rumors about another hemorrhagic stroke make sense, though.

What an awful situation all around. So young, to have to navigate this series of medical catastrophes--and to put her family through it as collateral. Usually this is the last six months of someone three times her age, or it all starts out with a car accident.
 
Sierra's insistence in inserting herself into Gruffins death when she only found out about it by lurking the Farms
Why do so many of you assume Sierra took her information from here? Quite a number of people enjoy her videos and she has made an ongoing series about Gruffin, so isn't it more likely that someone simply told her Gruffin had died?
She may well have taken some information about it from here afterwards but the assumption that she's continually lurking for information to steal uncredited is silly.

Also, Sierra's Xeet has now reached millions of people who would never otherwise have known about this case. So, however it gets out there, it's good that it's out.
 
In other SRS and GRS news, Scott Newgent’s memoir was released August 17.
My memoir, titled "Lesbian Devil to Straight Man Saint," which will become a bestseller in New York in 2025. It will be remembered as the book that shattered gender ideology and brought an end to the struggle for those who feel like they don't fit in.
It’ll be interesting to see if it makes the waves she’s anticipating. And hopefully it’s written better than that quote from her Substack oddly titled Notscottnewgent.
 
In the end, I'm ok-ish with these people plagiarizing from the Farms. It means word is spreading, people are getting warned and maybe listening. You don't always know where the whispers start, but they'll soon turn into a yell.

If Buck Angel, of all people, is telling people "Omg don't do this shit," I'm hoping they'll listen.
Yes! I'm not butthurt at all. I mean, I'm not the one who did any of the research, so it's not for me to say. But no one admits to reading this place.

If even one parent sees all this shit and says "no, I'm moving if I have to" then that's great.
 
Why do so many of you assume Sierra took her information from here? Quite a number of people enjoy her videos and she has made an ongoing series about Gruffin, so isn't it more likely that someone simply told her Gruffin had died?
I don't want to derail too much, nor am I a big Sierra stan, but I agree. I think it's totally reasonable that somebody who reads here and is a fan of hers sent her the obituary, knowing she had an interest in Gruffin. Sierra herself said the obituary was sent to her. Additionally, another woman who reposted Gruffin's instagram posts from here, whose post went even more viral than Sierra's, did in fact credit KF.
 
That’s actually fascinating. If that’s a cut off and sewn back on ‘dog it implies that the proprioception is not just mapped by direct connection via nerve fibre. There’s something IN that flesh that the brain has mapped out as leg, not simply ‘signals that come down this pipe are leg because that pipe goes to leg.’
Is that right? The flesh has been expanded from the thigh and totally severed and sewed onto the crotch, or is there a pedicle-and-shuffle-it-over while attached by a bit?
I think you might know this already, but this is a really interesting thing that happens when body parts are amputated, covered in VS Ramachandran's 'Phantoms in the Brain'.

He says there's a sort of 'homunculus' in the brain where each part of the brain is mapped on to parts of the body. If signals stop coming in from a part of the body, e.g. an amputated limb, eventually the neighbouring areas on the 'homunculus' (not necessarily adjacent areas on the body) spread into that one, so that the person might, for example, feel a cotton bud being stroked on their face and on their phantom limb simultaneously.


No idea if that's what is happening in this case though or if it's all bollocks.

On a totally different topic, re. catcalling/harassment of young women. It started for me around age 9 and got steadily worse, probably at its absolute nadir between ages 11 to 15. In my first year at secondary school, aged 11, I had two different men get their cocks out and masturbate at me in public, and too many comments, shouts, wolf whistles, leers, etc. to count.

This is nothing to do with anything that I did or didn't do - I was a child walking to and from the school bus stop, mostly. It's only started to get a bit less now that I'm in my 40s. To blame women for this or to suggest that it's invented or exaggerated by feminists is ridiculous.

Obviously none of that is a reason to mutilate and destroy your body for the fun and profit of surgeons, but it definitely contributed to a whole load of shit that i, and pretty much all the other women I know, went through.

In case this is all off-topic, here's a mad thread about shoulder reduction, complete with clavicle reduction and rib removal:
 
So... we know that Gruffin had a history of issues related to blood-clotting; the DVTs, the pulmonary embolisms, the heart attack (I'm assuming she meant an actual heart attack, as in a myocardial infarction and not just some other kind of cardiac event that is sometimes mislabeled a heart attack) so it would make sense if she was on blood-thinners, probably heavy duty ones, like warfarin. This understandably prevents new clots from forming, but as a side effect it makes the person much, much more prone to severe internal and external bleeding, so I'm assuming the first brain bleed as well as the second so far unconfirmed hemorrhagic stroke were consequences of this.

There was no saving her; sooner or later she was going to have a catastrophic clotting or internal bleeding event.

Was the clotting issues mostly genetic you reckon or how much did testosterone play a role?
 
Was the clotting issues mostly genetic you reckon or how much did testosterone play a role?
I'm sure it was 99% testosterone.
I think her "clotting issues" were genetic in the same way that diabetes is genetic - some people seem to be more prone to it but it's easily avoidable if you have the correct diet. Gruffin may have had some genetic predisposition towards clotting factors but if she hadn't poisoned herself with male hormones and surgical mutilations she wouldn't have had any problems.
 
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