Furry Fandom and Drama General

[LGTV]

I misread the sentence. Regardless, fuck that guy who chose to be a faggot about it.

I sent a DM to the Fur Affinity account when it was hijacked strongly urging him to leak the DM's of the FA account and Dragoneer account. Obviously he ignored my DM.

I'm going to keep up with Whanos. I find it hard to believe he just coincidentally picked up the handle from the account so quickly. I'm sure there's more info to find on him. We kind of found a location but we aren't sure.

 

[Mikoyan]

I sent a DM to the Fur Affinity account when it was hijacked strongly urging him to leak the DM's of the FA account and Dragoneer account. Obviously he ignored my DM.

I'm going to keep up with Whanos. I find it hard to believe he just coincidentally picked up the handle from the account so quickly. I'm sure there's more info to find on him. We kind of found a location but we aren't sure.

To be fair he probably had ten thousand DMs all going GIVE IT BACK YOU MEANIE. Not that the guy's not a retard or anything.

Whanos is a weird case. Why proclaim to do it accidentally? Why not just say 'I saw he renamed and I moved really fast to take over the name before someone hostile did'? It's a better story.

 

[ssaneenah]

I'm going to keep up with Whanos. I find it hard to believe he just coincidentally picked up the handle from the account so quickly.

Why'd you think that? He could be reading FA Twitter's shitpost waterfall, hit Ctrl+R as soon as Momma's little funny guy would change the username and be greeted with a "user not found" page. He could be smart enough to figure it out and instinctively snatch the "furaffinity" username while he can and then apply any subjective moral standards to his deed.

 

[LGTV]

Why'd you think that? He could be reading FA Twitter's shitpost waterfall, hit Ctrl+R as soon as Momma's little funny guy would change the username and be greeted with a "user not found" page. He could be smart enough to figure it out and instinctively snatch the "furaffinity" username while he can and then apply any subjective moral standards to his deed.

I think my problem is I'm looking at Whanos as if he's a normie. I should instead look at it as he is a chronically online furfag who probably sat there fucking mashing F5.

However he also brags in a ton of his bios about how he is knowledgeable in Cyber Security. If you go to his personal blog you are greeted with:

ioctl.fail​

A cybersecurity student's blog.​

I just wouldn't be surprised if he ran some script kiddie shit, and this entire thing was a psyop to stroke his ego.

 

[Cave Fisher]

I just wouldn't be surprised if he ran some script kiddie shit, and this entire thing was a psyop to stroke his ego.

See that definitely makes sense and could be what happened, but the problem is that the average furry Twitter user isn't nearly smart enough to rub their hands together, thinking of some convoluted plan like this. I think the likely answer is he just read the news and quickly snatched the handle for his 15 minutes of fame before he got like 500 messages screaming at him to give it back, and him, presumably being a sensitive gay zoomer, immediately caved and pretended he was holding it for safety reasons only.
Those are the only two reason I can think of for why he'd pretend he got the handle on accident.

 

[Spectre777]

I misread the sentence. Regardless, fuck that guy who chose to be a faggot about it.

You clearly have not been reading this thread. its been confirmed that the guy did not have access to any confidential shit at all. all he had was the password to the twitter accounts and website the data which included chat logs of the mods was something he had no access to. this was according to the statement released by the FA mods. guy was cock teasing everyone with shit he didnt have and images of his crypto wallet. hes still a faggot though.

 

[The Fatriarchy]

Accusing me of assuming emotionally while assuming emotionally.

What do emotions have to do with it? The post wasn't fucking there. Retard.

 

[Sneed's Feed And Seed]

Furries constantly parading around this "gay furry supar h4ckrz" myth reminds me a lot of DuBois' talented tenth. Except instead of talented niggers, you have 1466 pages of absolute horror.

Should have waited those extra 22 pages.

 

[Equal Rights for Androids]

@Equal Rights for Androids and I have been looking into Whanos. The furfag who obtained the FurAffinity Handle on X.

Broke ass images are apparently in the mega folder but @LGTV left out some points that help further connect Whanos to Alix Shirar so I'll reiterate them

Spoiler: whanos shit

whanossergal@gmail.com

Whanos shown to be inconsistent in his location


prpl srgl (not common spelling)

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/purple-srgl-boi/

Has a purple sergal like Whanos's character and eye stripes as well.

The prpl srgl thing led to https://www.deviantart.com/midnitedemonwolf/art/Srgl-Blep-795757690
Which led to this https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=2285593568433002&set=pb.100009471429605.-2207520000&type=3
Which led to Alek Shirar as the purple sergal

https://www.facebook.com/badsrgl

https://www.facebook.com/justin.bradley.96995238/

The use of srgl like Whanos.

It's important to see that Alek and Cecilia were engaged as of 2019 but broke up between 2019-2020, around the time when Alek Shirar disappeared from the public internet and Whanos appeared.

This character was drawn years ago so it's possible that Whanos redesigned it a bit in 2019-2020.




Alek Shirar is also into coding, coincidentally

But a data leak shows this:

Spoiler: ip

Spoiler: more schizo sperging

Whanos displays some typing consistencies with Alek Shirar.

https://web.archive.org/web/2021062...munity.com/id/sergalsergalsergalsergalsergal/ <His older username

https://steamhunters.com/id/sergalsergalsergalsergalsergal

and

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-O-wGDtpf3c

This shows that Alek changed the design of their character as well over the years. The left one was the original design, the right one was the new design. The last art I can find of it was in 2019 https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=2285593568433002&set=pb.100009471429605.-2207520000&type=3

The WindowsKernel twitter account was created on Jan 2016 BUT the whanossergal username that it was originally only has archives dating back to 2021
https://web.archive.org/web/20210515000000*/https://twitter.com/whanossergal
And the earliest message I could find to @whanossergal in Top search was from Nov 5 2020
https://x.com/RamulusBaphomet/status/1324515704436101123

So whanossergal wasn't in use for long before 2020, if at all. If alek is whanos, then he rebranded from his real name to a fake one in 2020, which would be smart. It would also kind of signal that his real age IS 20 since a lot of kids start off using their real name but change it once they realize how important privacy is. It would also explain the small design change on whanos's sergal. Whanos changed their sergal into a protogen eventually. The most recent IMAGE tweet on the WindowsKernel account is from 2023 so they definitely cleaned house recently.

https://www.spigotmc.org/members/alekkkkk.273787/
Shows Alek was last active 5 years ago... 2019. Around the time when Alek stopped posting.

but again, grain of salt since there's no conclusive evidence they're the same people.
The only other thing I can say is that Whanos has no actual proof that they live in the UK. They posted a few pictures of when they visited the meridian line https://x.com/WindowsKernel/status/1722316679517003862/photo/1
but they also show they've got enough money to freely travel to other countries.
https://x.com/WindowsKernel/status/1696885981704495156/photo/1

I'm not mega invested in this dude but gettin that info out there. It takes some balls to date a crippled so I'm leaning more towards leaving the guy alone just because of that.

 

[Zemblan Physics]

I follow a lot of psych people on Xitter for work, it’s very cerebral and extremely boring. Was rather surprised to encounter this old geezer offering his opinion on furries all of a sudden.



He gave no context whatsoever so now I’m imagining some fat guy in a panda suit waltzing in to his office demanding affirmation. Wish there was footage.

(Dementia praecox was the historical term for schizophrenia, btw).

 

[Chrono Legion]

(Dementia praecox was the historical term for schizophrenia, btw).

Why the hell doesn't he just say schizophrenia then? Do all doctors have to cope so hard over the high cost to low payoff that their education has had for them? I also have no fucking clue what he is saying, I think he had an opinion and it was probably something that has been talked about a hundred times over in this subforum before, but he had to gum it up with his academic asshattery like passing code through an obfuscation procedure.

 

[Feral Postie]

I also have no fucking clue what he is saying

Here it is summed up:

 

[Zemblan Physics]

Why the hell doesn't he just say schizophrenia then? Do all doctors have to cope so hard over the high cost to low payoff that their education has had for them? I also have no fucking clue what he is saying,

Honestly, I think he knows furries won’t know what dementia praecox means and is trying to avoid engaging with them.

He’s saying that psychiatry is doing a bad job of telling people that actually, you (the patient) and how you act are the problems in your life and you need to work on that, and that psychiatry and therapists need to stop enabling & affirming all the retards out there.

 

[The Ultimate Ramotith]

I follow a lot of psych people on Xitter for work, it’s very cerebral and extremely boring. Was rather surprised to encounter this old geezer offering his opinion on furries all of a sudden.

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He gave no context whatsoever so now I’m imagining some fat guy in a panda suit waltzing in to his office demanding affirmation. Wish there was footage.

(Dementia praecox was the historical term for schizophrenia, btw).

I feel that Daniel is just overanalysing things. Like... while the problems wi the furry fandom are obvious and eeply documented (see this board), I feel that he is looking way too deeply in the wrong direction.

Honestly, I think he knows furries won’t know what dementia praecox means and is trying to avoid engaging with them.

He’s saying that psychiatry is doing a bad job of telling people that actually, you (the patient) and how you act are the problems in your life and you need to work on that, and that psychiatry and therapists need to stop enabling & affirming all the retards out there.

I actually had no idea tha they ar enabling them at all.


Then again, I found these:

https://www.tumblr.com/totally-titular/755369372365766656/

https://www.tumblr.com/mayhem-moth/759210332789080064/

https://archive.ph/R0vJ1

https://archive.ph/Jof3d

"ohh what if my kid starts identifying as a CAT because of the trans agenda we have to prote—" well they've always done that. Do you remember the psychological effects of H2O on young girls... or Warrior Cats on autistic children? I believed I was a demigod because of Percy Jackson. Twilight came out and kids were telling their friends they were secretly vampires. This is just a thing kids do. Worry less.

My brother asked me about this the other day. His coworker's daughter pretends she's a cat and he wanted to know why we shouldn't just let her identify as a cat if we let male individuals be women. I told him that the difference is that only one of these things is actually physically possible.
Of course he tried to say that 'no, it's not possible for a male to be a woman', but I asked him to really think about it. If a little girl draws whiskers on her face and runs around in a kitty ear headband, you look at that girl and think 'Oh, she's a little kid pretending to be a cat. You don't see a giant mostly-furless cat.'
If in the 19th century you had a penis but knew you were a woman, literally all you had to do (simplified for the sake of the argument, mind you) was affect a falsetto, wear a skirt, grow your hair, and diligently shave your facial hair. That's all. People looked at the way you presented yourself and assumed you were a woman (because you were).
I don't think he realized the difference between sex and gender. Once I laid it out as something done even in the past, something possible even without modern surgeries, he stopped arguing to think about it.
Keeping in mind, this is a man who has trans coworkers and his opinion of them up to now has been 'Why should I care about what's in their pants so long as they do their jobs?' So, I think he's been listening a bit too much to conservative propaganda of late.

Also, I think its kinda dumb to police other's identities. If someone's a cat, then someones a cat. Therians are a thing and they are valid. Existence is complicated, and every creature has different experiences and ways of being completely unique to one another. What right do I have to tell another being that their unique way of being isn't valid just because I don't understand it personally.

I identify my gender in ways that won't make sense to a lot of people, but it makes sense to me, and that's what matters. If someone's a robot, or if someone's an otherworldly being, then that's what they are. I don't like the way these people think, because it's filtered through a world view entrenched in bigotry, and it takes away everyone's right to be free in what they are.

For me, its not 'Oh, its just a phase people grow out of that is for young kids'; its 'Okay... big deal? Does someone identifying as a cat really hurt anyone, or does you and your ACTUAL agenda hurt people... y'know, the one that makes people like me and the people I love unsafe... the one that ties back to so many other forms of bigotry such as white supremacy... intersexism? Did you think about how the things your saying makes others unsafe?'

 

[didelphigina]

Then again, I found these:
https://www.tumblr.com/totally-titular/755369372365766656/ https://www.tumblr.com/mayhem-moth/759210332789080064/ https://archive.ph/R0vJ1 https://archive.ph/Jof3d

What in the world is the second dude saying... thinking it's weird to identify as a cat in a public space's not the work of conservative propaganda... that's common sense! This is not an act of white supremacy! WHAT ARE THESE PEOPLE SAYING?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? YOU CAN BE WHATEVER YOU WANT JUST DON'T ACT LIKE A CAT IN FRONT OF STRANGERS IN PUBLIC!??!??! IM

Spoiler: complaining wall of text

I'm so sick of it man. If I have to hear ONE more person justifying being a confused genderblob that people have to conform to because "it doesn't hurt anyone", I'm gonna revoke my MATI status and reinstate it because there are not enough words to distill my anger with that phrase. It means nothing. It's not bigotry that someone thinks you're a weirdo because you unironically think you were reincarnated as a cat. People are trying to get by, not to conform to the mentally ill who can't be helped whatsoever. You can be weird all you want, just at least ADMIT it? There's a difference between genuine mental illness like struggling with a disorder and then there's "controlled" mental illness where you know you can stop deluding yourself as something you're not or learning to filter it away from others who don't wanna see it.

Not policing people's identities are the reason why the LGBT/Neurodivergent crowd is such a massive mess today. Why everyone's whining about THIS group not being presented, about THAT group not being presented. Why there's subcategories within subcategories of sexualities and gender orientations. WHERE'S THE REPRESENTATION FOR THE 0.00004040% OF PEOPLE WHO IDENTIFY WITH MY DELUSIONS?!!?

In a way, they're right that one shouldn't judge someone because they don't understand it properly. But this isn't like an Athiest learning to respect a Christian's choices and vice versa. This isn't like a liberal learning to accept that not all conservatives are baby-eating bigots. This is a delusional person trying to convince someone that they're not delusional as they constantly repeat the phrase, "I say I'm a cat. I feel like a cat. Therefore, I AM cat.".

God. They're the worst examples of the "Don't let others dictate how you should live your life" mentality. They don't know the true importance of that mentality and they're dismembering and reconstructing it for their own backward desires and way of living. You wanna identify as a Therian/Otherkin? Fine, do it! But identifying as that should only be around groups you KNOW don't mind that. Being that around COMPLETE strangers will obviously give you looks! Someone on the internet WILL call you out for your delusions, and all you can do is suck it up! They're not being bigoted, and y'all sure aren't some oppressed, marginalized group. Just a slowly dying fad that'll continue slowly dying as time goes on.

It's a bit strange but silly when you see a child or maybe a teen pretend to be an animal. That's expected, they're still growing and they'll grow out of it. Just tell them to not do that junk in public nor make a complete fool of themselves around others generally. Learn to balance that imagination with common sense.

But when it's an adult doing it, especially in public... that's no. You're an adult and want to pretend to be an animal? Do it behind closed doors. No one wants to see you pretend to be an animal in public. Simple as that.

And because I'm a morbidly curious person, I decided to look at some of the replies from that second Tumblr post and let's say some of them made me side eye.

Spoiler: tumblr replies

Let's not compare neurodivergent children to trans children. One is a neurological disorder they learn to accept having overtime. One is emotional/mental manipulation and copious amounts of love bombing.

The only good replies.

 

[BeatboxBill]

MOD EDIT:

Dear furries,

Kiwi Farms did not hack your website. A majority of users can't even remember their own password.

XOXO

- Kiwi Farms

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Null, please put the wall up and close registrations before we get invaded.
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I wouldn’t at all be surprised if Nicholas Halpern aka "Seven Thorne" / "Se7en" had something to do with it, he was banned from the furry convention Confuzzled after trying to rape another and then half of the internet turned against him after they found out he was grooming minors on Instagram.

After that he raged all over social media, accusing all of his ex-best friends of "slandering" him.

For more information, see the following links below:
Nick Halpern/Se7en - Part 1
Nick Halpern/Se7en - Part 2

If any of the content is missing from my posts, please let me know and I will do my best to fix it.

Edit:
The reason I think that the hacking could be Nicholas Halpern is because he hacked that Youtuber Alan Thornton aka "Hulkerine100" and Hulkerine basically pissing and whining about it all over his community tab.

And if anyone who is wondering who Hulkerine100 is, he is some British autistic fag who got butthurt over one of Chris Chan’s trolls copying his retarded screen name.

 

[Strangolapreti]

This is a fucking disaster, the people on the FA discord want to ship FA and Kiwifarms. They are going to make Null a fucking furry character.

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Not to ruin your day and everything But...

 

[SomeSpook]

Not to ruin your day and everything But...

They beat me to it. God damnit.

 

[terraform45]

I know this is a bit of a curveball but im gonna assume no one else here knows about this?

 

[Strangolapreti]

They beat me to it. God damnit.

Also, it's the same fucking guy, which makes it even funnier.