Arin Hanson / Egoraptor / Grump - "Hey I'm Grump!" of Game Grumps fame, hypocritical SJW doxer, shat himself recording a let's play

[One_True_Yuri]

Arin has burnt any and all bridges with anybody involved with those old projects.

When did this happen? Was it around the Dream Daddy debacle?

 

[DickMain]

When did this happen? Was it around the Dream Daddy debacle?

He's been doing it the entire time he's been an internet presence. The OP could probably use a rewrite at some point since it's just wordswordswords with back-to-back links-as-text.

 

[Local Wordmason]

I think Arin had always wanted to turn it into a Internet media empire ala Good Mythical Morning or Smosh, if I remember correctly that was theorized to be one of the big sticking points between Jon and Arin. Arin wanted to take it all the way to the top, whereas Jon saw it as a side gig and wanted Jontron to be his legacy and not Game Grumps; as a result Jon never took GG as seriously as Arin wanted him to, Jon even publicly says how he didn't like how GG took him away from making his own videos. Even more unfortunate for him, Game Grumps was taking off like wildfire and threatened to eclipse his previous work like it had already with Arin, though unlike him Arin didn't mind, at that point his Egoraptor identity was dead and buried. I think Jon had to make the decision of what he was going to commit to, which I think explains why it was so sudden, he felt like he had to pull the trigger then and there before it was too late. There was probably other factors at play, but I think that is as close as I can guess as to what happened. Regardless, I think it's obvious he made the right choice.

Jon leaving gave Arin sole proprietorship as there was no longer a partner that had to be consulted, this combined with their massive growth during this period and the financial gains emboldened him to expand in an attempt to snowball into what he had wanted all along. Unfortunately, instead of hiring people based on their expertise, charisma ,and compatibility for new shows, he decided to hire his friends. I think most of the new shows were driven solely by the recognition around Arin and Dan and that was why they did so poorly and ended up being axed. People just wanted to see Arin and Dan so who gives a shit if their editor and Arin's wife played a board game if the main duo wasn't involved. Honestly they're lucky they seem to have hit with TMPH because otherwise their channel would probably be nearly dead, even then that formula seems copied wholesale from GMM, but at least it works. I would not be surprised at all if a big part of why there isn't as much variety is because they aren't making as much money.

 

[Sneak 'n' Snore]

I think Jon had to make the decision of what he was going to commit to, which I think explains why it was so sudden, he felt like he had to pull the trigger then and there before it was too late. There was probably other factors at play, but I think that is as close as I can guess as to what happened. Regardless, I think it's obvious he made the right choice.

Comparing Jon's notoriously sparse upload schedule versus GG's constant stream of garbage makes it really evident how Jon values quality over quantity instead of the other way around which likely was another thing they had a disagreement on.

 

[AlmightyMagichan]

Comparing Jon's notoriously sparse upload schedule versus GG's constant stream of garbage makes it really evident how Jon values quality over quantity instead of the other way around which likely was another thing they had a disagreement on.

I recall there were a lot of one offs and games that they just randomly stopped playing. I imagine Jon got bored with them and demanded something else. Dan couldn't give less of a fuck.

 

[Friendly Primarina]

Unfortunately, instead of hiring people based on their expertise, charisma ,and compatibility for new shows, he decided to hire his friends. I think most of the new shows were driven solely by the recognition around Arin and Dan and that was why they did so poorly and ended up being axed. People just wanted to see Arin and Dan so who gives a shit if their editor and Arin's wife played a board game if the main duo wasn't involved.

This makes me wonder if Steam Train would have even gone anywhere if Jon had stayed. Maybe there's an alternate reality somewhere in which Jon is still Not-So-Grump and wants to kill himself, Dan is still fucking around with his shitty gimmick band no-one cares about and Ross is still doing whatever it is he does now.

 

[Wonathan Joss]

Do the Game Grumps still use an office that costs like half a million to manage, just so they can record let's plays and vlogs?

 

[Radiaux]

This makes me wonder if Steam Train would have even gone anywhere if Jon had stayed. Maybe there's an alternate reality somewhere in which Jon is still Not-So-Grump and wants to kill himself, Dan is still fucking around with his shitty gimmick band no-one cares about and Ross is still doing whatever it is he does now.

I liked Steam train and I miss Ross.

Hey, I like NSP and for that matter Star Bomb.

Don't say no one, when you mean maybe your circle.

 

[AlmightyMagichan]

What they could have done was introduce new people through Game Grumps Episodes. Have Ross come on and do a let's play with them of a game he likes. If people like him then they'll want to go watch other stuff with him. Get a whole damn crew developed and start playing Mario Party and go nuts!

 

[Butwhythough2]

I wonder how upset Arin is that Zack got a show through his animations. I wonder if it really chaps his ass

 

[StillNotBlarg]

I wonder how upset Arin is that Zack got a show through his animations. I wonder if it really chaps his ass

Considering Arin's response was to create his own animated pilot to boldly declare that he too can create something just as good, and the end result was Happyland Incorporated, a 10 minute irredeemable piece of shit showing that Arin has no idea how comedy works, proving that no, no he can't.

By far the biggest slap in the face to Arin is the fact that Smiling Friends has and continues to use a variety of animators and voice actors, meaning Arin could have easily done one or both of those, but that isn't happening now.

 

[Friendly Primarina]

I liked Steam train and I miss Ross.

Hey, I like NSP and for that matter Star Bomb.

Don't say no one, when you mean maybe your circle.

Would anyone care about NSP if not for Grumps? Because that's what I was getting at. If Dan had only been involved in Steam Train and it had petered out, no-one would give two shits about it.

 

[TV's Adam West]

Would anyone care about NSP if not for Grumps? Because that's what I was getting at. If Dan had only been involved in Steam Train and it had petered out, no-one would give two shits about it.

Theoretically, Planet Booty a San Francisco band that does what NSP does but better has several shows and tours, and they have shows occasionally. They've actually toured with NSP, and Brian was featured on YES, they'd have some modicum of success, but nowhere near as big as they are. Also, nobody listens to StarBomb.

 

[Butwhythough2]

Would anyone care about NSP if not for Grumps?

They had a great cover for "Everybody Wants to Rule the World" by Tears for Fears. Their cover also included TWRP or what ever the other band's name is. I can say Dan has a good voice, and it was a good cover.

 

[winterfag]

They had a great cover for "Everybody Wants to Rule the World" by Tears for Fears. Their cover also included TWRP or what ever the other band's name is. I can say Dan has a good voice, and it was a good cover.

Their covers are very solid but they're missed opportunities because their music is already in the style of the music they're covering, and while well put together the only difference to a casual listener is Dan's voice

 

[Butwhythough2]

Their covers are very solid but they're missed opportunities because their music is already in the style of the music they're covering, and while well put together the only difference to a casual listener is Dan's voice

Understand that their music is comedic mostly, if they were a more serious band I could see them being very successful without having to attach it to Game Grumps. I don't know who their backing band is, it might be people around their tight nit community or it could be random studio musicians. They might have achieved success without Game Grumps. The biggest set back is the gimmicky sex joke music, if they put work into more serious music then I think they would have done well on their own.

 

[AlmightyMagichan]

Considering Arin's response was to create his own animated pilot to boldly declare that he too can create something just as good, and the end result was Happyland Incorporated, a 10 minute irredeemable piece of shit showing that Arin has no idea how comedy works, proving that no, no he can't.

By far the biggest slap in the face to Arin is the fact that Smiling Friends has and continues to use a variety of animators and voice actors, meaning Arin could have easily done one or both of those, but that isn't happening now.

I kind of suspect that James from the start of season 2 was supposed to be Arin.

 

[Butwhythough2]

Considering Arin's response was to create his own animated pilot to boldly declare that he too can create something just as good, and the end result was Happyland Incorporated, a 10 minute irredeemable piece of shit showing that Arin has no idea how comedy works, proving that no, no he can't.

By far the biggest slap in the face to Arin is the fact that Smiling Friends has and continues to use a variety of animators and voice actors, meaning Arin could have easily done one or both of those, but that isn't happening now.

The animation is bad, the writing is bad, it's too full of random humor and the characters explain the joke.
Smiling Friends took off because the animation is good, they experiment with different styles of animation, some humor is random but it fits within the world of the show. Also there's inside jokes the people who whatch Oneyplays will pick up on. Zach does random humor right, and Arin doesn't. I don't know how game Grumps hasn't went under after Jon left.

 

[BroNudnik]

I liked Steam train and I miss Ross.

Hey, I like NSP and for that matter Star Bomb.

Don't say no one, when you mean maybe your circle.

Get the fuck out of here, you candyassed cocksucker. You do not speak on behalf of anyone but yourself.

Considering Arin's response was to create his own animated pilot to boldly declare that he too can create something just as good, and the end result was Happyland Incorporated, a 10 minute irredeemable piece of shit showing that Arin has no idea how comedy works, proving that no, no he can't.

By far the biggest slap in the face to Arin is the fact that Smiling Friends has and continues to use a variety of animators and voice actors, meaning Arin could have easily done one or both of those, but that isn't happening now.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! IT ISN'T EVEN FUCKING ANIMATED BY ARIN, BUT BY NEVARKY!! Jesus Christ, that nigger's truly let his talent waste away hence why he can barely animate anything past 10 fucking seconds like in that DragonBall Z Intro Reanimated collab!

Their covers are very solid but they're missed opportunities because their music is already in the style of the music they're covering, and while well put together the only difference to a casual listener is Dan's voice

I disagree. Dan's cover of Eve Of The War from Jeff Wayne's War Of The World's sounded like dogshit compared to the original masterpiece.

 

[Wonathan Joss]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! IT ISN'T EVEN FUCKING ANIMATED BY ARIN, BUT BY NEVARKY!! Jesus Christ, that nigger's truly let his talent waste away hence why he can barely animate anything past 10 fucking seconds like in that DragonBall Z Intro Reanimated collab!

The sad part is that was barely above two seconds of animation he did for that collab. Somehow "anything past 10 seconds" was being generous.
It was actually Smallbu that animated Happyland, which is wild because they do good stuff, they just severely dropped the ball with this pilot and made everything look not even good for late 2000s flash animation.