Megathread Jesse Singal Derangement Syndrome - jsingal69 vs TroonWorld

Somewhat random thoughts:
  1. Jesse is being RETARDED about Israel’s gleeful genocide. Even if they have off-air agreed not to discuss it as part of their blanket “no politics” policy, I doubt that sits well with Katie. As long as I’m bitching about Jesse, the way he talks makes me think he fucked Lorenz. Really disgusting shit.
  2. Do you think they’re doing what many big podcasts are doing now and selling episodes? I wondered about an episode maybe 9-12 months ago that Katie did with a guy who was launching his PR firm and had some really gay story about his exit from Vice or NY Mag. It seemed like a long-form ad. The Maurer episode this past week too had a whiff of it. Maybe Substack doing paid cross-promotion for that one, since Singal also has a Substack?
  3. They are both making more money now than they ever dreamed. I agree there’s some tension and they are deliberately taking breaks from each other, but I also think they’ll grit their teeth and try to get through it rather than risk losing their goldmine.
  4. Note too that Herzog as far as I know still doesn’t have a Substack (or if she does, it’s nothing compared to Jesse’s). She was still doing normal freelance journalism and now has the book…but her income is from this podcast. She’ll practice patience.
Herzog's book sounds quite strange, a self help book promoting a quite severe way of treating alcoholism. I'll buy it, but I was kind of hoping she'd write something in the vein of Michael Malice and Angela Nagle's books on internet culture.

I actually think the podcast works in that they're clearly not irl friends. Also Katie shitting on Taylor Lorenz while stopping every few minutes to remind everyone Lorenz is Jessie's friend is fucking hillarious. The show also benefits from Katie doing the editing and deciding what does and doesn't make it in.

I have a suspician that if they went their own ways Katie would do far better than Jessie in an audio or video format. She's better not only at interacting with guests but also in choosing them, Jesse's psa sitch ep was a damp squib, he also gets dominated in convos easily like with Destiny.

Incidentally the Barpod comments section are only just starting to ask questions about Leo Frank, even fucking wikipedia doesn't claim he was innocent, and points out there was a huge amound of evidence against him.

This is a good video about it, but a bit big on the ADL hate though.

 
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Do you think they’re doing what many big podcasts are doing now and selling episodes? I wondered about an episode maybe 9-12 months ago that Katie did with a guy who was launching his PR firm and had some really gay story about his exit from Vice or NY Mag. It seemed like a long-form ad. The Maurer episode this past week too had a whiff of it. Maybe Substack doing paid cross-promotion for that one, since Singal also has a Substack?

Do you mean that coked up faggot who bragged about being an accountant at his mother's dog breeding business at age 5? Both hosts are just sympathetic to any media figure that gets canceled, but if there was any financial consideration going on, the overwhelmingly negative reaction that interview earned would have scared them off from trying it again.

Herzog's book sounds quite strange, a self help book promoting a quite severe way of treating alcoholism. I'll buy it, but I was kind of hoping she'd write something in the vein of Michael Malice and Angela Nagle's books on internet culture.

I wasn't kidding when I said I'd rather read a book about dog balls. Moose Nuggets was shaping up to be genuinely interesting, but I guess the tumults of her life were too much to handle.
 
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Hi you pussy ass kike incel. Instead of creeping on listeners at parties you aren’t invited to and lying about dating your publisher, please eat a bullet with “ it depends, it’s complicated” written on it and let Helen take your place. All heterodoxy hates you, you creep.
And here I thought Katie would know better than to self-dox her KF account. Tsk tsk, Herzog!
 
Somewhat random thoughts:
  1. Jesse is being RETARDED about Israel’s gleeful genocide. Even if they have off-air agreed not to discuss it as part of their blanket “no politics” policy, I doubt that sits well with Katie. As long as I’m bitching about Jesse, the way he talks makes me think he fucked Lorenz. Really disgusting shit.
Barpod fans are more rabid Israel stans than Jesse himself lol
 
Yeah, I really hated this episode. Jesse's all. "Irish people are nice but oh the drunken brawling I saw in Dublin!" and I simply disbelieve him. Just making shit up for material. It's also weird- or wait, not so weird- that he acts like Leo Frank (Jew) was clearly indisputably exonerated from murdering young Mary Phagan (child of Irish immigrants). Legitimate doubt remains.

I'm just kind of over Jesse and Katie's ha ha ha we're-so-superior bitchy banter. Jesse's a liar when he says he never checks this very thread. Katie's definitely an enthusiastic reader of Kiwi Farms- she said so! But they hypocritically say, "Oh, KF is terrible. Respect trans people's pronouns!". Maybe the troons were right that Jesse is a chaser. They're both raking in the dough, yay capitalism, but they act like they're put upon outsiders for speaking truth. Not any truth that would offend trannies though. And that Graham Linehan fellow is terrible! So mean to transgendered persons of dignity! They both trashed Glinner badly and needlessly when Glinner actually WAS speaking truth. And paid heavy prices for it.
Most of their BAR banter is just filling airtime now.
 
It's also weird- or wait, not so weird- that he acts like Leo Frank (Jew) was clearly indisputably exonerated from murdering young Mary Phagan (child of Irish immigrants). Legitimate doubt remains.
So you think it's more likely that Jim Conley was telling the truth and that Leo Frank figured out that he was capable of writing (even though everyone else thought he was completely illiterate) and made him write two notes from Mary Phagan's POV saying that Newton Lee had murdered her and then when questioned about the notes that he obviously wrote he continued to try to actively frame Newton Lee for the murder of Mary Phagan up to and including the forging of evidence, but the second he changed his story (once the police had made it obvious that they didn't believe that Newt had murdered Mary) to be that actually it was Leo Frank that did it he's suddenly trustworthy.
That's retarded, bro.
 
Yeah, I really hated this episode. Jesse's all. "Irish people are nice but oh the drunken brawling I saw in Dublin!" and I simply disbelieve him. Just making shit up for material.
Why would you disbelieve this?
I'm just kind of over Jesse and Katie's ha ha ha we're-so-superior bitchy banter. Jesse's a liar when he says he never checks this very thread.
He literally admitted to checking this thread in the episode

But I do agree, bother of them still suffer from a case of liberal superiority. Though it was nice to hear Katie criticise Kamala
 
Do you think they’re doing what many big podcasts are doing now and selling episodes? I wondered about an episode maybe 9-12 months ago that Katie did with a guy who was launching his PR firm and had some really gay story about his exit from Vice or NY Mag. It seemed like a long-form ad. The Maurer episode this past week too had a whiff of it. Maybe Substack doing paid cross-promotion for that one, since Singal also has a Substack?
I think they're just using the podcast to promote their friends, who are pretty much all media people. Substack has provided a viable route for non-conforming journofags to make a living independently of the big media orgs, and I think Jesse and Katie are legitimately inspiring to this crowd.

If someone gets big enough on Substack, there are options for buyouts as well. Recall that Katie let slip in the Q&A that The Free Press made an offer to buy the podcast but for her there really isn't a number high enough to make up for being one's own boss.
 
So you think it's more likely that Jim Conley was telling the truth and that Leo Frank figured out that he was capable of writing (even though everyone else thought he was completely illiterate) and made him write two notes from Mary Phagan's POV saying that Newton Lee had murdered her and then when questioned about the notes that he obviously wrote he continued to try to actively frame Newton Lee for the murder of Mary Phagan up to and including the forging of evidence, but the second he changed his story (once the police had made it obvious that they didn't believe that Newt had murdered Mary) to be that actually it was Leo Frank that did it he's suddenly trustworthy.
That's retarded, bro.
The whole Leo Frank thing strikes me as people trying to decide which they hate more, blacks or Jews. It happened over a century ago. Trying to objectively ascertain guilt in 2024 is like trying to find Jack the Ripper.

They're like the retards who say that ackshully Emmett Till *did* whistle at that white lady and therefore it's a False Narrative to have a problem with him having his skull kicked in by a bunch of sub-mental rednecks. The problem with lynching isn't that it's only inflicted upon innocent people.

I have a similar problem with the Matthew Shepard "drug deal gone wrong" narrative that BARPod explicitly endorsed a few weeks ago. Everyone involved being methed out of their minds and the murderer being on the DL doesn't suddenly make a gay-panic defense viable.
 
He went on that Palestine trip that's supposed to be like the birthright trip, but pro-palestine propaganda instead of pro-Israel propaganda.
He insisted on having pro-Palestine propaganda in addition to the pro-Israel propaganda, not in place of. I wouldn't personally do that since I consider pro-Palestine activists to be a close second to the trans rights activists for the most dishonest and annoying people in the world, but I have to admire the desire to hear both sides. It's a good journalistic instinct.

I have a similar problem with the Matthew Shepard "drug deal gone wrong" narrative that BARPod explicitly endorsed a few weeks ago. Everyone involved being methed out of their minds and the murderer being on the DL doesn't suddenly make a gay-panic defense viable.
I agree, the facts around Matthew Shepard's murder are almost certainly less important than the fact that McKinney and Henderson thought that the gay-panic defense would work. But I also think that it's worth it to look for the truth behind his murder, if only for the fact that it's interesting (which I suspect is Katie and Ben Kawaller also agree). I think it's like the fact that Omar Mateen didn't know that Pulse was a gay club. I don't think that anything substantively changes if he targeted Pulse because it was full of haram homos or because it was just the easiest target he could get to or if he was secretly a regular there, but it's sort of interesting to know.

My issue with the current spate of Leo Frank slander is that their evidence is shockingly weak and pretty obviously a politically motivated hit job against a guy who was murdered over a century ago. Possibly the worst thing is that it's not even funny or interesting, it basically comes out to "this guy's murder was justified and the Klan are the good guys!" Yawn.
 
I agree, the facts around Matthew Shepard's murder are almost certainly less important than the fact that McKinney and Henderson thought that the gay-panic defense would work. But I also think that it's worth it to look for the truth behind his murder, if only for the fact that it's interesting (which I suspect is Katie and Ben Kawaller also agree).
I agree with this, but The Free Press very much came away from the story concluding that the crime had absolutely nothing to do with Shepard's (or McKinney's) sexuality, and I just don't think Kawaller's research got there. McKinney assaulted a bunch of other people that night, sure, but none of those attacks were nearly as brutal as the one on Shepard. The fact that he had a girlfriend (and an infant) from whom he was almost certainly keeping secrets, was also entirely glossed over.

I'm probably being uncharitable, but it felt like Kawaller went to Laramie with a contrarian axe to grind, and when he came to the It's Complicated part of the story, he immediately seized upon it to conclude that the entire thing was made up, topping it off with some half-baked sound bites from midwit zoomers for the audience to feel superior to.
 
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And here I thought Katie would know better than to self-dox her KF account. Tsk tsk, Herzog!
If I was Queen Katie I’d call out that dumbass Christ killer every time he refuses to say a bad word or avoids answering a question at all. I don’t listen to the podcast about controversial issues so he can have literally no comment at all.

His contributions in general have been terrible as of late as well, his coverage of Lord Miles was both irrelevant and idiotic. He talked about him seemingly just to make fun of him but there wasn’t anything to make fun of, just claiming he’s a Trump supporter and other TDS nonsense. This isn’t “internet bullshit” or an actual story I want to hear an unbiased journalism perspective on.

I really think the kike is using his “I was canceled for my work!!!” as a resume item and doesn’t actually care about any of the topics he covers, and the stuff Katie talks about even less. He seems to want to use blocked and reported as a step stone to some other big writing at a leftoid outlet or actual attention for his books and the rest as attention to him being an incel pervert who creeps on female listeners. dude is incredibly insecure and is just as much of a lefty lunatic as some he claims to support

And his Twitter addiction is extremely unattractive to any potential listener. He needs to stop being a sex pest, grow a backbone and get surgery for that fucking sniveling Jew nose
 
So you think it's more likely that Jim Conley was telling the truth and that Leo Frank figured out that he was capable of writing (even though everyone else thought he was completely illiterate) and made him write two notes from Mary Phagan's POV saying that Newton Lee had murdered her and then when questioned about the notes that he obviously wrote he continued to try to actively frame Newton Lee for the murder of Mary Phagan up to and including the forging of evidence, but the second he changed his story (once the police had made it obvious that they didn't believe that Newt had murdered Mary) to be that actually it was Leo Frank that did it he's suddenly trustworthy.
That's retarded, bro.
What's retarded is this absolutely autistic sperg-out here on your part. I understand Leo Frank is your Chosen People's martyr. Many people wonder why a Black man was killed over it. I don't have the answers, but you don't either, Typical fucking arrogance that Chosens could never do such a thing. Yes they could. Mary Phagan, who Leo Frank exploited in life for her child labor, remains dead.

Why would you disbelieve this?
Because Dublin has changed massively and it's such a just-so story, Jesse the vegetarian hook-nosed faggot wanted to insert a "Oh, then I saw the Irish ruffians brawling in a donnybrook!" because it's such a hackneyed cliché. It's exactly the sort of vivid colorful bullshit storytelling he and Katie love to blab about, like it's daring to grab those stereotypes and blather about them. These days in Dublin you're more likely to be stabbed by a Muslim migrant parasite than watch Irishmen do fisticuffs.
 
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