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Without how fucking insane things have been, I don't know how far fetched that is. The VP choice alone seemed to me like such a stupid decision. Shapiro would have helped kamella lock down pennsylvania, mark kelly could have locked down Arizona and pulled the strict anti gun gabby giffords people. Nah, let's grab closeted faggot tim walz.
Yeah, I was also shocked they didn't go with Shapiro. Picking Walz implies that Minnesota actually needed shoring up, and if that's true, then Trump is probably ahead in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania. Which puts him at 312 EVs, iirc.

She can't really win without Pennsylvania, that's probably the deciding state this cycle. So it's weird she didn't grab Shapiro when he was literally begging for it. Maybe they've conceded Pennsylvania post-assassination attempt, and are just trying to hold the rest of the Rust Belt? I don't really get the thinking otherwise. There's no scenario where she's winning PA but is worried about the other upper Midwest enough to pick Walz of all people. Even without the riots, horse cock addiction, and stolen valor, he's a net drain on the ticket because he's a bloated old white guy from a ruined blue state with no name recognition.
 
I mean it worked for Biden

He did almost nothing but hide in his basement and let the MSM do all the work for him so yah it makes sense that Harris would think it would work for her too.

I mean most Dems are going to vote blue anyway so why put yourself out there are risk another major disaster?

Just let the jurnoslimes do their jobs, write the fluff pieces and try to shame people into voting for you even if your the worst candidate since Hillary Clinton and you have no policies (that your will to talk openly about at least) and no agenda.

American politics are super fucked. People are so team focused you could run a rotten egg as your candidate who wanted to bring back Hitlers brain in a shark and that egg would still get 220 electoral votes. This shit need to stop, the MSM needs to be a neutral party hunting the truth or democracy just won't work.
While the "Biden's campaigning from the basement" meme had a lot of truth to it in 2020, it was nowhere near as bad as it is now for Kamala.

Biden did some interviews and appearances at least.
 
Yeah, I was also shocked they didn't go with Shapiro. Picking Walz implies that Minnesota actually needed shoring up, and if that's true, then Trump is probably ahead in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania. Which puts him at 312 EVs, iirc.

She can't really win without Pennsylvania, that's probably the deciding state this cycle. So it's weird she didn't grab Shapiro when he was literally begging for it. Maybe they've conceded Pennsylvania post-assassination attempt, and are just trying to hold the rest of the Rust Belt? I don't really get the thinking otherwise. There's no scenario where she's winning PA but is worried about the other upper Midwest enough to pick Walz of all people. Even without the riots, horse cock addiction, and stolen valor, he's a net drain on the ticket because he's a bloated old white guy from a ruined blue state with no name recognition.
Trump is up like 20+ in Iowa. Shit is bad from rural voters.
 
Boy they love trying to make her do these glamor shot style things now.

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No halo? She must not be fully chosen even at this point.
While the "Biden's campaigning from the basement" meme had a lot of truth to it in 2020, it was nowhere near as bad as it is now for Kamala.

Biden did some interviews and appearances at least.
'You have to elect her to know what's in her.'
Trump is up like 20+ in Iowa. Shit is bad from rural voters.
Rural states know the democrats fucking despise them with a white-hot fury.
 
Yeah, I was also shocked they didn't go with Shapiro. Picking Walz implies that Minnesota actually needed shoring up, and if that's true, then Trump is probably ahead in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania. Which puts him at 312 EVs, iirc.

She can't really win without Pennsylvania, that's probably the deciding state this cycle. So it's weird she didn't grab Shapiro when he was literally begging for it. Maybe they've conceded Pennsylvania post-assassination attempt, and are just trying to hold the rest of the Rust Belt? I don't really get the thinking otherwise. There's no scenario where she's winning PA but is worried about the other upper Midwest enough to pick Walz of all people. Even without the riots, horse cock addiction, and stolen valor, he's a net drain on the ticket because he's a bloated old white guy from a ruined blue state with no name recognition.

Or you could look at it the other way.

Pennsylvania could be already locked down thanks to all the fortification the Dems have set up so they don't need to even bother to pretend to waste time or money in Penn. Harris can look for other targets to flip as she's been told Penn is off the table for Trump so lets so hit some less then locked down states.

Remember most election laws put in place for 2020 are still there, only Arizona seems to roll back a few and not all.
 
A opinion I’ve heard floating around is that Kamala is a consciously chosen sacrificial lamb. They’re going to try hard to get her to win, but they understand that its a stretch. Someone has to fall on the sword, and they’ve chosen her.

You’d have to be really fucking stupid to try to crawl your way into a nomination spot with everything thats happened this season. Trump almost got killed, Biden has dementia, War is erupting in the middle east (again), and things cost 4x more than they did 4 years ago. I truly just don’t see a Democrat victory. Kamala’s political career is okay to die right here.
And now there is a good chance that the Kennedy's are finally given a chance for revenge.
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Nevermind. How long till theres a “plane crash?”
 
I'm not, this place tends right overall. All the sites I look at, freerepublic and DU and even dailykos are old fogie lands. I've always been a political news junkie. I just don't think anyone under 35 talks about politics much. People that grew up in the early(net era, pre phones) 1995-2005 solidified to their locations mostly and just stayed there. And now they're old.

KF seems to be either zoomer furries or late millennial and up. Could do without those furries for sure, but I like how there's a good mix of age and ideas allowed here. Good stuff. And you can say nigger too.
People 35 and under are definitely political, annoyingly so, I feel like most of the people I see online with retarded overly political personalities are more often than not millennials and zoomers and the oldest of those people are in their 40s, I'd agree with you more if you said people OVER like 60 or something aren't political - think actual grandmas and grandpas or something.

1995-2005 is a bit off, a lot of millennials and zoomers will remember the Internet from that time period (not as many zoomers). That's a decade that many children in the first world will have grown up with the Internet around them in some capacity, myself included. My parents got broadband in 2001.

I'd consider early net to be early 90s to late 90s - when BBS and Usenet were big. The people who were grown ass adults and used the early net will be getting a bit old now, likely 60s+, but remember a lot of kids also fucked around with that stuff - people born in 80s and 90s.
 
I agree with this as a possibility, still because they are obsessed with power they will still try to win just for power's sake, but in actuality they want Trump to be in the WH when everything explodes. If they can squeeze out a win so be it, they will still take it, but they probably think they cant win. This would be the peaceful wishful thinking route. The economy will crash, its a question of who is holding the bag when it does.
I agree with much of this but what makes me hesitate about this theory is that whilst yes, all of this is true as far as leaving Trump to handle public ire over bad times, it would also mean he gets another shot at clearing out the Deep State wonks. And they really don't want that. Last time he was in he didn't make much headway in it but he did manage to get in quite a lot of judges and I don't mean just the Supreme Court. Having the judiciary in their pocket is a key part of keeping their control. It has to be with a constitution as solid as the USA's. We haven't even begun to see the fall out that is likely to come about from overturning Chevron.

"Criminalise Everything, Enforce Selectively" is a mainstay of Authoritarian governments. Can't do that without a partisan judiciary. Trump set them back at least a few years in his last term and additionally this time he's going to be a lot better prepared for dealing with the institutional intransigence that stonewalled him last time. He made some bad picks in his team last time, largely because there wasn't much to pick from. But this time he'll be better prepared. Hell, he just picked RFK which is like a nuclear option for the Deep State.

Sorry, took a long time to say all that. Basically, I think you're spot on about leaving him holding the bag for upcoming problems, but I don't know that they'd willingly go that route because of the other side of the equation which is it also means four years of Trump cleaning out the Augean Stables.
 
Or you could look at it the other way.

Pennsylvania could be already locked down thanks to all the fortification the Dems have set up so they don't need to even bother to pretend to waste time or money in Penn. Harris can look for other targets to flip as she's been told Penn is off the table for Trump so lets so hit some less then locked down states.

Remember most election laws put in place for 2020 are still there, only Arizona seems to roll back a few and not all.
If they can steal states that easily they wouldn't have burnt so much political capital on the failed lawfare, Trump's arrest and mugshot, the armed search of Mar-a-Lago, (possibly the assassination attempt), and they'd have kept Biden as the nominee and made him pick Newsom as VP to takeover after the election.

I fully understand the election was stolen in 2020, but I think it cost them a lot to do it and it's not nearly as easy to pull off twice, for whatever reason. Or Jan 6 really freaked them out so much they don't want to risk a real uprising.

I've said this before, but I suspect the 2020 steal was at least partially an accident, rather than planned "fortification". It's too radical for the DNC leaders, Pelosi and Co are drunks but they're cautious drunks. The DNC probably put people in place to do their usual stealing, some officials in Atlanta and Detroit colluded to shut down the count at the same time with plans to rescan the same ballots for a bit to give Biden the normal 2% "boost", and suddenly Trump's actually gaining more votes than any incumbent in history and they freak out and go way overboard, and you get 4am 100K vote dumps that go 100% for Biden and not any down ticket races because they didn't have time to fill out the rest of the ballots.

The DNC leaders realize it's way too obvious to hide what's happened, but they can't really control it and it's too far along to stop or back out, so they have to make sure Biden wins no matter how obvious it becomes. A few weeks of ballot printing later, and Trump's 800K lead in PA is reversed, and suddenly it's virtually a crime to even question the election results.

I'm not sure they can really do that again. They haven't acted like a party that is confident it can just steal whatever it wants, not since the special election in Georgia back in 2021, and that was held on January 5th.
 
I'm so tired of seeing my faggot governor with his "I'm an ex-teacher dad look at me ha-ha" energy, also people clapping every time someone at the DNC said they are a teacher pissed me off. So what? You know how many dog shit worthless teachers there are out there?!

Guess the DNC audience are all silver spoon private schoolers.
 
I don't really think the Dems used up any political capital in Trumps arrests and trials.

I honestly think that was local pols trying to make a name for themselves. Who ever puts Trump in jail will be set for life among the Democratics. They will be a legend and so the fools with no brains just jumped at the chance.

I would guess that if the DNC had a say they would have put the kibosh on any Trump arrests until after 2024. But I'd wager the morons in NYC didn't bother to tell anyone and by the time the talking heads of the DNC knew the arrest had been made, the press conferences were done and the MSM was already cooooooming all over the place at the news.

Putting Trump on trial just before the election was a lose-lose-lose situation that anyone with a single brain cell could tell you would backfire spectacularly. Notice it was only the utter morons in NYC that really went to town on it and NY pols have a reputation for massive stupidity for a reason. So no, I think the DNC didn't pull for it and would have stopped if it they could/knew.

Never underestimate the incredible levels of stupidity and ego that comes out of Jew York City. The place is a hell hole for a good reason.
 
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