Official Kiwi Farms Man-Hate Thread

Men are far shallower than women.
If we break down the most basic definition of shallow, let's say, priorisiting sex in a relationship and therefore looks, men have it far easier. A man can look at a woman's chest and immediately decide then and there if he wants to sleep with her.
On the contrary, a woman can't see a man's dick. If a woman wanted to be shallow about dick size, she'd have to actually like the guy enough to want to sleep with him in the first place...
On top of that, I see many pairings of ugly men and gorgeous women--"he makes me laugh, he's nice to me"--and yet I see next to no pairings of ugly women and gorgeous men. Curious! I don't even see that many """looksmatch""" ugly couples, it's always that the woman is just a little prettier.
And on Instagram, when these ugly-man/hot-woman couples post, all the comments are FILLED with moids whining about how could this happen to someone uglier than them? And fail to realise that most women have been conditioned to date anyone who can remember their name and birthday because of the abhorrently large amount of useless moids, so all they'd have to do is take a shower, not be a dick, and not be shallow to find a girlfriend.
 
I don't like to be hurtful to you, but they're not interested in you. They're swiping right on every woman who isn't horrendously ugly (which is most every woman) because online dating moids are Nigerian Prince scammers. Doesn't matter how hopeless each individual interaction is, the hope is that with enough numbers, eventually someone has to bite. They're desperate, and they'll take whatever has the quickest payoff for the least amount of effort.
You are right that on apps where users can send dozens of likes, it was obvious that most likes were from moids who were just swiping right on everyone. I was talking about my experience on an app that allows a very small, limited amount of likes per day and assuming Gigachads would be pickier (also would not be desperate enough to pay for the premium version to be able to send endless likes), it is fair to say they were interested in me

Women bring far more to a relationship than men do, so alone being female means you have a higher inherent value to a man, than he has to you. You probably have a whole bunch of other incredible attributes which make you a total catch. You don't need to be seeking out the dregs of society in online dating, and you definitely don't need to be thinking from the start that any man is out of your league.
Men should recognise your amazing qualities, but that's for them to notice for themselves so they work harder to keep you, not something you need to seek from them.
We have the same opinions for the most part. I just don't think online moids are too different than real life moids to say one is much better than the other. My favorable takes regarding OLD are not exactly about the people, more so about the way it functions in comparison to irl dating. It makes finding what you're looking for easier
 
I’m sure that this has probably been discussed before, but I’ve just come to understand what “passport bro” culture actually is, and it’s amazing seeing the cope from incels that it isn’t their fault that they “feel the need” to go out of Western countries to find a partner.

“Not every man who does it is unattractive or a virgin!”
“Western women are all just (monolith generalization here), I don’t need to change anything about myself.”
“Western women refuse to date anyone under 6 feet.”
“Western women are all fat and unmotivated (but I will also refuse to disclose what my appearance is or how much I weigh).”

They also like to deny that Asian and Southern American women are only interacting with them for chance at a better life/more money to support their family, but they also take note to mention the currency exchange rate with American dollars. And they like to brush Western women with the same “whore” brush, but these “passport bros” also say that they aren’t looking for someone to settle down with. They just want something “exotic”. And don’t forget that they want a wife with traditional gender roles, but these same men don’t make enough money to support a house, car, and a family of 3-4 people, possibly with a pet included.
 
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Incels ofc trashing the woman in the comments repeating his lies about her being "abusive" and "crazy".

Btw this guy only posted this because apparently this guy recently endorsed Trump, he doesn't actually give a shit about this poor woman.
 
I think there needs to be both, and it really depends on the overall situation. Anyone can just say they love someone, but if they don't show that, it means nothing. On the other hand, just fixing things around the house without saying it's out of love, or whatever doesn't prove jackshit either.

Really, you should just find what works for both of you, but makes sure it actually works, and isn't just one of you putting up with shit because you don't wanna rock the boat.
I definitely think there needs to be both, but by being emotionally mature I don't just mean that they say I love you or something I mean that they can articulate things directly to you when they're having issues (either in their life or with you) or that they can deal with conflict without shutting down or becoming completely avoidant or acting like a petulant child.
 
To a lot of men sex = punishment for the receiver, dominating, conquering etc. You humiliate someone by sticking your dick into them. The man gains something, the woman loses. Just consider the language they love to use when talking about sex. It's violent, nothing romantic about it. Or the popularity of extra-coomery porn scenarios where a woman is "put into her place" or is reduced to a drooling sex-addicted retard. So you add the element of it being forced on top of all that and in their little lizard brains it's the ultimate female-exclusive punishment for a misbehaving woman.
Heterosexual women, how do you even cope with this? How do you stand having sex with men when they see sex as an act of conquering? They see receiving their penises as humiliating. It's so embedded in language. "Suck my dick" "get fucked/bent" "cocksucker". Some women will argue that their man is different but I'm assuming that the rotted out neurons clinging around upstairs spark just enough to not openly hinder their access to pussy.
This is genuinely terrifying. Men should know that you don't want children unless you really want children. You cannot feel whatever about it. If you're not ready to devote 18 years of nearly undivided attention to a human being, then don't have a baby.
Men saying that they want children should be disregarded. For men, having children is the equivalent to waiting nine months for a package to be delivered. For women, it's the biggest life altering decision any person can make, and one that's insanely risky. I imagine it's like rolling a magic die. Evens, you get a pet unicorn. Odds, all your hair falls out and doesn't grow back. Prime, all of your food will have trace bits of cyanide in it, slowly poisoning you (but you need to eat or else you'll starve). Composite, you grow an extra digit on your hand or foot every time you sneeze.
 
If I see another man sperg out in a comment section about the mythical concept of real-life misandry I'm gonna lose my shit. You can't cry in public without being called a faggot? Wah. Try not getting raped or honor-killed or having your genitals mutilated because of some backwards-ass incest pedo marauder religion.
 
Right when everyone seems to be in agreement that crypto obsessions are for retards, A&N start sperging out that women don't find lectures about Bitcoin attractive and would rather fuck a medieval LARPer than an unemployed crypto fag. Doesn't matter how many scams and scandals the "hobby" gets into, somehow it's CRITICAL for men to engage in it and any woman who side-eyes throwing your entire savings into /biz/ shitcoin is a misandrist.

And of course the usual chimpout that women have no hobbies, reminds me of that TikTik of a guy lecturing a girl that "women don't have real hobbies, men are the ones with the world-changing hobbies like stocks and crypto while women like Instagram and candles." I feel pretty privileged to live in a time where women can openly shit-talk loser male hobbies after generations of men degrading and minimizing theirs, crazy how the gender that's prided itself on roasting and banter can't take the heat when they're the ones being criticized on a scale larger than individual women wincing when they walk in on their man building a goon cave or spending $10,000 on a model train set.
 
Heterosexual women, how do you even cope with this? How do you stand having sex with men when they see sex as an act of conquering? They see receiving their penises as humiliating. It's so embedded in language. "Suck my dick" "get fucked/bent" "cocksucker". Some women will argue that their man is different but I'm assuming that the rotted out neurons clinging around upstairs spark just enough to not openly hinder their access to pussy.
Being able to make the best of a bad situation is both the guarantee of our survival and the cause of our downfall.

Almost all, not just some, of us have argued at one time or another that our Nigel is different. Which again, is just trying to make the best of a bad situation, even if it is terribly misguided. The only way to ensure our own genetic legacy is to provide a free ride for the genetic legacy of a moid, and the best many of us hope for is that our moid is slightly less moidy than the rest.

Since we cannot change the facts of reproduction, and men refuse to put even the slightest bit of effort into improving themselves, the only truly healthy response is to engage in man hate. His genetics still get a free ride, but at the cost of a life-time of misery and mockery for him.

I fully encourage every woman to make her Nigel earn his free genetic ride. Either he gives you all his earnings and adoration to support your shared genetic legacy and the sacrifices you have made for that to happen, or you continually bully him in that subtle, nuanced way that only a woman can.

And even if your Nigel is a truly good one (he isn't), a little part of you should still hate him. A part of him already hates you.
 
Being able to make the best of a bad situation is both the guarantee of our survival and the cause of our downfall.

Almost all, not just some, of us have argued at one time or another that our Nigel is different. Which again, is just trying to make the best of a bad situation, even if it is terribly misguided. The only way to ensure our own genetic legacy is to provide a free ride for the genetic legacy of a moid, and the best many of us hope for is that our moid is slightly less moidy than the rest.

Since we cannot change the facts of reproduction, and men refuse to put even the slightest bit of effort into improving themselves, the only truly healthy response is to engage in man hate. His genetics still get a free ride, but at the cost of a life-time of misery and mockery for him.

I fully encourage every woman to make her Nigel earn his free genetic ride. Either he gives you all his earnings and adoration to support your shared genetic legacy and the sacrifices you have made for that to happen, or you continually bully him in that subtle, nuanced way that only a woman can.

And even if your Nigel is a truly good one (he isn't), a little part of you should still hate him. A part of him already hates you.
A hundred percent agreed. Most of the relationships I've seen among peers and even family members, it's so disheartening and depressing what women will put up with. I have known women, especially teen girls, who have put up with all sorts of abuse and mood bullshit just because they love the idiot. Yet no matter what you say to try to help, they usually will not listen until they finally have enough to leave for the last time.
It's fucked up and I hate it. I wish more men could at least be less obvious or try to change in some capacity.
Sorry for the rant, just pisses me off and I wish it was less common than it is.
 
A hundred percent agreed. Most of the relationships I've seen among peers and even family members, it's so disheartening and depressing what women will put up with. I have known women, especially teen girls, who have put up with all sorts of abuse and mood bullshit just because they love the idiot. Yet no matter what you say to try to help, they usually will not listen until they finally have enough to leave for the last time.
It's fucked up and I hate it. I wish more men could at least be less obvious or try to change in some capacity.
Sorry for the rant, just pisses me off and I wish it was less common than it is.
It's absolute bullshit. "Love" (or whatever facsimilie of it scrotes try to pass off to us) is not worth the abuse and downright disrespect.

But damned if you do, damned if you don't. People will ask why/how we put up with misogyny. But utter the phrases "female separatism" or "B4 movement", and people lose their fucking minds. God forbid a woman have enough self respect and self preservation to just forgo the sham that is heterosexual coupling with moids.
 
Really insane how people right now are giving shit to Chapelle Roan, a popular female singer for setting up boundaries when it comes to her fans and saying that if they
try to approach her in public she's gonna tell them to fuck off because she deserves her personal space, saying things "Oh she's not cut out to be a pop star", "She has to get used to this because fame comes with sacrifices!" and other idiotic statements. When female celebrities got assaulted, stalked or even killed because of their fans, people shamed them for "not be careful enough" for not presenting themselves assertive, setting up the line, hiring enough bodyguards or protective services, but when they set up boundaries whether by telling everybody to knock off or actually doing that they're called arrogant that think they're worth protecting.

Meanwhile when male celebrities talk about "CUH-RAZY" fangirls that are just usually teenage girls confined to Twitter or deal with one IRL once in a blue moon, then they're allowed to vent about it and set boundaries, meanwhile female celebrities just have to allow themselves to be stalked and harassed because "that's just part of being a pop star".
Men: Stop swiping on the top % of men, they have options and will just want to hook up with you. Start swiping on uglier average men with boring profiles because real men don't bother to put effort into those. Just get to know a guy, fuck the spark, adults know attraction grows over time and settling is normal.
Women: OK, I will swipe on more men even if I'm not attracted immediately but get to know them first.
Men: Fucking cunt, why are you hoarding matches, do you need backup options for your free dinners so badly? Stop wasting a guy's time, it's either a fuck yes or a fuck no. Men deserve a girl who is attracted to him, it would kill him to know you settled.
Women: OK, I won't swipe unless I'm immediately attracted to a guy and interested in him.
Men: WHORE.
My favorite meme about men and dating app discourse is the act that men are blaming women for dating apps becoming popular along with hookup culture become amplified because of that, never mind the fact that they are the ones to use dating apps more. They constantly cry about how "good ol' romance and love" is completely dead because of dating apps, how ""everybody"" needs to break off the cycle and return to IRL like how things used to be, but yet when women are actively breaking this cycle by opting out of dating apps these very same men that still use these apps despite the grand moral posturing, get upset because the pool of women they wouldn't usually have access to is shrinking down due to that, instead of being happy that their wish is coming true they instead seethe and say how "women have high standards and an ego problem thinking they are 10/10 because of men trying to get with them on apps, when in reality they are 6/10", even though that's really rich for them to say when they most of them are one step away from lookling Elmer Fudd and constantly trying to pressure women get on their level because they're unable to grow.

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Right when everyone seems to be in agreement that crypto obsessions are for retards, A&N start sperging out that women don't find lectures about Bitcoin attractive and would rather fuck a medieval LARPer than an unemployed crypto fag. Doesn't matter how many scams and scandals the "hobby" gets into, somehow it's CRITICAL for men to engage in it and any woman who side-eyes throwing your entire savings into /biz/ shitcoin is a misandrist.

And of course the usual chimpout that women have no hobbies, reminds me of that TikTik of a guy lecturing a girl that "women don't have real hobbies, men are the ones with the world-changing hobbies like stocks and crypto while women like Instagram and candles." I feel pretty privileged to live in a time where women can openly shit-talk loser male hobbies after generations of men degrading and minimizing theirs, crazy how the gender that's prided itself on roasting and banter can't take the heat when they're the ones being criticized on a scale larger than individual women wincing when they walk in on their man building a goon cave or spending $10,000 on a model train set.
Can you believe that those fucking foids would rather date a medieval serf than
me? The up and coming crypto billionaire! Those dumb bitches will begging
me to acknowledge their presence once I become rich billionaire when my
totally real cryptocoin's value goes up! Truly (((women))) cannot comprehend
complex, deep and world-changing hobbies such as mine!
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Heterosexual women, how do you even cope with this? How do you stand having sex with men when they see sex as an act of conquering? They see receiving their penises as humiliating. It's so embedded in language. "Suck my dick" "get fucked/bent" "cocksucker". Some women will argue that their man is different but I'm assuming that the rotted out neurons clinging around upstairs spark just enough to not openly hinder their access to pussy.
I think it's odd because they simultaneously view it this way but also reek of a kind of desperation for it even while in a relationship with you, which makes you feel like you're doing them some grand favour by letting them fuck you. There's a strange dissonance in simultaneously thinking you're "conquering" someone by fucking them while also falling all over yourself with desperation for the privilege of fucking them.
hat TikTik of a guy lecturing a girl that "women don't have real hobbies, men are the ones with the world-changing hobbies like stocks and crypto while women like Instagram and candles."
I've had a lot of guys allude to something like this and I found it especially unusual since pretty much every hobby group or volunteering organization I'm in is riddled exclusively with women of all ages and 0 men. People often say you should join hobby groups to meet men but I find basically none of them are there because they have no hobbies outside of holing up in their house and drinking/gaming/gooning nor do they have the moral compunctions to volunteer for causes that move them. I think a lot of times men think women have no hobbies because they care so little about the women in their lives that they don't bother to think about or observe what they actually do in their free time.
 
Right when everyone seems to be in agreement that crypto obsessions are for retards, A&N start sperging out that women don't find lectures about Bitcoin attractive and would rather fuck a medieval LARPer than an unemployed crypto fag. Doesn't matter how many scams and scandals the "hobby" gets into, somehow it's CRITICAL for men to engage in it and any woman who side-eyes throwing your entire savings into /biz/ shitcoin is a misandrist.

And of course the usual chimpout that women have no hobbies, reminds me of that TikTik of a guy lecturing a girl that "women don't have real hobbies, men are the ones with the world-changing hobbies like stocks and crypto while women like Instagram and candles." I feel pretty privileged to live in a time where women can openly shit-talk loser male hobbies after generations of men degrading and minimizing theirs, crazy how the gender that's prided itself on roasting and banter can't take the heat when they're the ones being criticized on a scale larger than individual women wincing when they walk in on their man building a goon cave or spending $10,000 on a model train set.
Yeah, crypto sure changed the world, all right. It opened up a whole new avenue for scammers, thieves, and grifters, made a few thousand of those assholes rich(er) at the expense of hundreds of thousands of bagholders, significantly contributed to climate change, completely buttfucked the market for graphics cards for a couple of years, and forced us all to learn what NFTs were and why they were stupid thanks to those ugly fucking ape cartoons and their five million imitators. Truly a hobby any moid should be proud of.
 
significantly contributed to climate change
You don't actually believe this, right?

The losers on 4chan who think if they just invest in the right meme-coin they can buy a wife are retarded and cringe, but crypto is one of the reasons this website is still up, so I can't hate on it too much.

Most men who have "crypto" as their hobby are just gambling addicts tho, investing all your life savings into anime-feet-coin is extremely retarded, but yet men do shit like that constantly. Women find it unattractive because men who are bad with money are unattractive.
 
Most men who have "crypto" as their hobby are just gambling addicts tho,
It's funny because all of my women friends and I either trade (stocks) or invest, but none of us do crypto because we actually want money and aren't interested in just indulging gooner gambling impulses. Women stay away from crypto because they're not led around by dopamine desperation. I remember reading a paper that found that women were better traders than men because they were more risk averse.
 
I don't fucking blame them, there are too many bleeding hearts in this issue. Bensonhurst is a pretty conservative neighborhood (by nyc standards lol) mostly full of families. NYC homeless can get fucking wild, I cannot walk past a shelter without getting sexually harassed by feral niggers and that's just the minor everyday annoyance of putting up with them, I have multiple memories of getting followed home by creepy homeless dudes on the subway when i was a teen. I don't want kids to go through shit like that ever.
I never understood how people can raise kids in bughives . Ita toxic and alienating on every level and above all dangerous due sheer concentration of people and thus concentration of psyhos, drug addicts and various other people that would be shunned and " known" in smaller communities. I used live in one of those nowhere near crazy and dangerous as USA bughives because lol Norway but there was increased concentration of people who will be treated with precaution in small towns. Almost where i live every single leech, drug addict, fuckboy and general not nice person to deal with is outright ignored by everyone so much so that some businesses are specialized in catering useless trash like that by insane markup.

IRL like how things used to be, but yet when women are actively breaking this cycle by opting out of dating apps these very same men that still use these apps despite the grand
Problem with dating apps they try to monetize by having absurd prices for men and then men feel entitled to stuff from women because of it. It creates pretty nasty environment and nobody wins with it.

Btw those same me who scream I AM LEAVING , I AM LEAVING lose their marbles when woman posts something innocuous like enjoying their day as single women and they are ok with being single but don't mind if they meet someone right.
 
I swear to God, the whole Depp vs. Heard have given every men online some sort of brain damage because now every time there's a story about celebrities divorcing they're all obsessed with narrative of the woman in the relationship being the evil bitch abuser divorce rapist while the man is a precious wholesome cinnamon roll that dindu nuffin, even though most of the time the man they're ballwashing is a dogshit human being, case in point Ben Affleck a compulsive cheater and an alcoholic bum that blamed his alcoholism on his ex-wife.
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Ofc scrote are applauding him for getting a divorce and saying how happy and thriving he is. Imagine if women were making the same comments about a recently divorced female celebrity, moids making comments like these would go nuts, insist how ITS NAWT TRUUUUUUUU and how akshually the female celebrity is crying herself to sleep or whatever.

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I swear to God, the whole Depp vs. Heard have given every men online some sort of brain damage because now every time there's a story about celebrities divorcing they're all obsessed with narrative of the woman in the relationship being the evil bitch abuser divorce rapist while the man is a precious wholesome cinnamon roll that dindu nuffin, even though most of the time the man they're ballwashing is dogshit human being, case in point Ben Affleck a compulsive cheater and an alcoholic bum that blamed his alcoholism on his ex-wife.
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Ofc scrote are applauding him for getting a divorce and saying how happy and thriving he is. Imagine if women were making the same comments about a recently divorced female celebrity, moids making comments like these would go nuts, insist how ITS NAWT TRUUUUUUUU and how akshually the female celebrity is crying herself to sleep or whatever.

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Men love to paint marriage as a prison for men that keeps them from finding their true happiness by banging tons of younger women and being manwhores. Wifes = abusive nagging bitches because they ask you to take out the trash and not be a degenerate alcoholic or drug addict. But then at the same time they cry because women don't want to get married anymore and initiate divorces more. Make it make sense.
 
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