Russian Special Military Operation in the Ukraine - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

Betonhaus said:
Some of the few scenarios I can see:

- Russia already holds such a low opinion of NATO and Ukraine that they have already accounted for them acting as a rabid animal, and sees them crossing lines as unfortunate but expected. They will refuse to acknowledge any of NATO's demands for peace as they are not dealing with intelligent beings but animals that will lash out with no room for negotiation
- Russia wishes to fire nukes at ever of NATO's bases of millitary power, but cannot do so until enough justification has been accumulated.
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A bit of both, IMO. There are people inside of Russia, who wants to escalate. And you are forgetting third option, that's on the table. Retaliation with supplying enemies of NATO. Training, weaponry, missiles and missile launchers. And making sure that those enemies hit the right target
 
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The giant penis of doom said:
Kikes being psychotic warmongers, on any side, what a surprise!
Nuke each other as you wish, just leave Eastern Europe out of it. If the weather is good, we'd get very little fallout from Moscow and Berlin being glassed. Then we'll rebuild society without sandniggers and Jews.
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Where does the "nukes end the world" comes from?

Would it in reality throw up enough dust to cause a winter bad enough to hurt South America or Africa?

It would destroy the US, Russia (the inhabited parts), Europe, China, Straya. Maybe India and Pakistan if they do the needful, but considering jeets I wouldn't bet on it wiping them out.

Maybe Eastern Europe and the stans and middle east would get too radioactive for habitation, but unless there is a big global cooling event, SA would be the new superpower, arriba.
 
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Male Idiot said:
Where does the "nukes end the world" comes from?

Would it in reality throw up enough dust to cause a winter bad enough to hurt South America or Africa?

It would destroy the US, Russia (the inhabited parts), Europe, China, Straya. Maybe India and Pakistan if they do the needful, but considering jeets I wouldn't bet on it wiping them out.

Maybe Eastern Europe and the stans and middle east would get too radioactive for habitation, but unless there is a big global cooling event, SA would be the new superpower, arriba.
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"What is wind"
 
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Male Idiot said:
Where does the "nukes end the world" comes from?

Would it in reality throw up enough dust to cause a winter bad enough to hurt South America or Africa?

It would destroy the US, Russia (the inhabited parts), Europe, China, Straya. Maybe India and Pakistan if they do the needful, but considering jeets I wouldn't bet on it wiping them out.

Maybe Eastern Europe and the stans and middle east would get too radioactive for habitation, but unless there is a big global cooling event, SA would be the new superpower, arriba.
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it would damage infrastructure and turn the bughives that survive into cannibalistic hordes, but it's very easy to survive a nuclear war.

also, all the estimates assume that all of the nukes are in working order, and they won't be.
 
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The Punished Mitch said:
Hiroshima and Nagasaki clearly show that, in the long run, the damage nukes inflict pales in comparison to category 5 nigger infestations.
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Hiroshima and Nagasaki were two locations attacked by bombs with yield of about 1/100th of what a fighter jet based nuclear missile is capable nowadays. An F-16 can carry two of those without breaking a sweat.

I know people here are retarded. But stop playing fallout. If nukes were to fall, your only hope is being close enough to the blast zone, or having a sharp object to quickly kill yourself by the time you hear the booms
 
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People here are debating the merits of what @Susanna said, it might be more important simply that she said it. My understanding is that sentiments like this have been growing greatly in Russia and for all this talk about how to respond to provocation one of the most important factors is how such a response is received by the people. And increasingly they're calling for it.

Putin is still being diplomatic about calling things out. Meanwhile Lavrov is openly talking about the Kursk incursion being a NATO operation using advanced NATO weapons and NATO operators.

Two years ago a Russian friend's comment to me was a puzzled and slightly dismayed "I don't get why Americans hate us so much."

Today, you're more likely to hear attitudes like @Susanna 's. People can debate back and forth if they agree when and what response Russia should make. But the Russian people I think are no longer where they were two years ago and that matters. What formerly might have been something Russians were reluctant to support is increasingly becoming something they'd say "about time".

EDIT: And regarding the possible use of nukes, it's been done before and though people are probably right that mankind would go on, @Yak-130 Mitten is correct that today's nuclear arsenals are vastly more potent again. The effect on our societies, our lives and our freedoms would be devastating for us and our kids. The question shouldn't be "Would some people survive nuclear war", it should be "how much of this do you want to witness:"
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This photo was taking in Hiroshima and is a boy bringing the body of his younger brother for cremation. His family were killed so he took on the duty.
 
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An American mercenary that was taking photo ops with flags in Kursk fled after one day of fighting. Smart man, he gets to whine about his cowardice and failure on TV. Why would an able-bodied American need to go to Ukraine to fight a dictatorship when they have a dictatorship at home? Stay the fuck in Oklahoma next time, nigger.



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Tumbo II said:
Ukraine has officially Banned the Canonical Orthodox Church within the Country under Metropolitan Onufry of Kiev and All Ukraine. they have Declared War on God and his Church. Which is undoubtedly the Stupidest thing they could have done this will come back to haunt them in more ways then they could ever hope to realize.
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They are now embracing the church of the Western globalist hegemony (and all of its mutant sects)
 
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Sister Miriam Godwinson said:
I still don't get it.
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It's call propaganda.
American powers are the world leader in brainwashing/influencing the majority of their trusting population.

Russia holds the largest chunk of the worlds land mass, that hasn't been exploited by American companies
They need Russia to dissolve into many smaller states so they can be influenced to gain access and control of their lands and people (like much of Ukraine is now).
 
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Mr Komo said:
An American mercenary that was taking photo ops with flags in Kursk fled after one day of fighting. Smart man, he gets to whine about his cowardice and failure on TV. Why would an able-bodied American need to go to Ukraine to fight a dictatorship when they have a dictatorship at home? Stay the fuck in Oklahoma next time, nigger.

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Firstly, I seriously doubt that there's a "vacuum" in the Russian spirit when Russia proper is getting invaded. That's the one thing in that video that immediately stuck out to me as a lie. If there's one things that Russians won't be low energy about is beating back invaders of the motherland - see Hitler and Napoléon.

Secondly, while I respect him as a soldier, he is a typical sort of fool for the West. "End authoritarianism in Ukraine and Russia." Yeah, I'm sure the authoritarians in Ukraine will just give up power when they've won a war.

Men like him who go off to fight wars for notions of liberty and freedom have been patsies since ww1. They think you can fight the enemy at home by fighting the enemy abroad. How many generations of good, strong men have been wasted on that delusion? The men of ww2 really come to mind. They beat back the Nazis in Germany and Fascists in Italy to guarantee a free Europe. And what happened? Half the continent got sold off to the communists, those who survived saw the great society of Europe fade into the bureaucratic sham it is today, and the very regime they fought for became an even graver threat than the Nazis or communists could ever hope to be.

I remember that interview with the US marine who fought in the pacific, and how he wept that all that he fought for, the society he knew, all of that was gone, for nothing. I never want to be that man. No one should ever be that man. And the soldier in that video, he is precisely the sort of character to become that man. A strong patriot whose heart is used to make him a tool for the very forces he fights against.
 
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Lurker Child said:
I remember that interview with the US marine who fought in the pacific, and how he wept that all that he fought for, the society he knew, all of that was gone, for nothing. I never want to be that man. No one should ever be that man. And the soldier in that video, he is precisely the sort of character to become that man. A strong patriot whose heart is used to make him a tool for the very forces he fights against.
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That is why being cynical more often than not turns out to be a good thing, at least to some extent.
 
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