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[The Ugly One]

The West is going to soon experience a large revolution of men who take things. They'll take property, they'll take food, they'll take women, and there will be an "Incel Revolution".

You're so close, yet so far.

 

[Negus]

"Yeah, you better pretend for me woman". Plus since they're trying to make up for their past sins they're a lot more willing.

I'd pay good money to watch a live-action show with that as a premise. I think it'd be funny and make the usual suspects very mad.

As for men being pornsick, they're totally useless. You can sleep with a skanky woman where as pornsick dudes can't even get it up. I just don't agree with keeping score.

Pornbrain can be cured. There is no cure for being a whore.

As for the topic of looks, incels, and ugly men getting wives, there was this Chilean who came up with a very wise line: Billetera mata galán. Which loosely translates to: Wallet kills a handsome man. Money plus confidence helps many who may otherwise never have been given a second glance, the hardest part there is money though. I have seen people argue things like "Well she is there for your money, not you". Except the money is you. It is your success, drive, or even luck and privilege in tangible form. It is as much you as having a good jawline or being funny. Now the question becomes, are most women worth the money they ask for? Most of the time the answer is no, especially for the more successful ones who still require a man to make more than they do.

This is not to say that there aren't people deformed enough to be condemned to die alone, but really that is just bad luck of the draw and only applies to a very small subset of people.

 

[The Ugly One]

I'd pay good money to watch a live-action show with that as a premise. I think it'd be funny and make the usual suspects very mad.

Pornbrain can be cured. There is no cure for being a whore.

As for the topic of looks, incels, and ugly men getting wives, there was this Chilean who came up with a very wise line: Billetera mata galán. Which loosely translates to: Wallet kills a handsome man. Money plus confidence helps many who may otherwise never have been given a second glance, the hardest part there is money though. I have seen people argue things like "Well she is there for your money, not you". Except the money is you. It is your success, drive, or even luck and privilege in tangible form. It is as much you as having a good jawline or being funny. Now the question becomes, are most women worth the money they ask for? Most of the time the answer is no, especially for the more successful ones who still require a man to make more than they do.

This is not to say that there aren't people deformed enough to be condemned to die alone, but really that is just bad luck of the draw and only applies to a very small subset of people.

This is why I compare fuckboys to whores, and johns to sluts. A slut is like a man who has only money, and nothing else whatsoever.

Most of the time the answer is no, especially for the more successful ones who still require a man to make more than they do.

You know, I hadn't really thought about this before, but women delude themselves into thinking their careers have vastly increased their value on the marriage market. The man a career woman wants does not give a flying fuck that she's pulling down $85K/yr as a laptop jockey, but she thinks they should. It's like a man thinking that because he spends a lot of time on his hair and make-up, he'll land a higher-value woman, because after all, that's what he finds attractive.

 

[Bungdit Din]

A good whore is good at making you think she wants more than your money. We had a family friend who destroyed his life for a whore that he was 100% convinced was in love with him. Of course, she disappeared as soon as the payments ended. He had to go to therapy to be convinced that there wasn't anything there.

Sounds like me and... my... ex...

Oh, fuck.

 

[Stasi]

The only time a woman can do wrong is when a man forced her to. And if the man did literally nothing and it was all in her head, it's his fault for not being a telepath. And if his 6th sense told him to ask a woman if something is wrong, the typical response is either "nothing" or "why are you asking me? can't you tell?".
If you have ever worked with children, you will notice the staggering similarities between a 5 y/o and a 40 y/o woman.

Had a situation kind of demonstrating this recently.

Woman I know got dumped, we hang out. I invite her over to mine, we have some wine and I ask her to stay over. Vibe is good, didn't get any push back.

Afterwards I get an entire novel of texts about how she is still in a bad place, in love with the other guy and I made her uncomfortable and put her in a position where she couldn't say no. She needed a friend and I took advantage etc etc.

Maybe she was fucked up mentally but all it would have taken is a "no let's not go there" from her, but I'm to blame for everything.

And this was only sleeping over and basically PG13 action. I dread to think what kind of hell she would have unleashed if we actually fucked.

 

[saintJogger]

You know, I hadn't really thought about this before, but women delude themselves into thinking their careers have vastly increased their value on the marriage market. The man a career woman wants do not give a flying fuck that she's pulling down $85K/yr as a laptop jockey, but she thinks they should.

Yeah, guys with money don't give a shit how educated a woman is or how much money she makes. It's a complete non-issue to men even in general, but especially to guys who make actual money. If you have a million-dollar house, a couple of cars, a couple of motorcycles and are still left with money to invest for your olden days, what the hell do you care what the woman makes? It's completely different attributes in a woman that matter to guys.

Women say they want to be treated as complete equals, but they don't. Wanting a man who's better educated and who makes more money than her is all that's needed to prove that. Women want to be lead, and if they're on the upper step of the social status ladder, they feel like they're the one leading, and that's all that's needed to dry their pussies shut. That, of course, only applies to relationships. They'll still have sex with hot broke dudes who barely finished high-school.

 

[Bungdit Din]

Had a situation kind of demonstrating this recently.

Woman I know got dumped, we hang out. I invite her over to mine, we have some wine and I ask her to stay over. Vibe is good, didn't get any push back.

Afterwards I get an entire novel of texts about how she is still in a bad place, in love with the other guy and I made her uncomfortable and put her in a position where she couldn't say no. She needed a friend and I took advantage etc etc.

Maybe she was fucked up mentally but all it would have taken is a "no let's not go there" from her, but I'm to blame for everything.

And this was only sleeping over and basically PG13 action. I dread to think what kind of hell she would have unleashed if we actually fucked.

Counterpoint: she's mad at you because you didn't fuck her. Now she feels doubly rejected, unattractive, and scorned (hell hath no fury, and all that). Plus, you denied her ammo to hurl at her ex. "You're with Stacy, now? Yeah, well I'm fucking Stasi." etc. You may've foiled her attempt at monkey-branching, so she now can't twist the knife/rub that in his face. Bitches love doing that; showing off some new, replacement guy - as fast as possible - to make the ex jealous, and make him think about what he's missing out on, particularly if she still has feels for him.

Probably did do the right thing, and dodged a bullet, though.

 

[DOUBLE_WHEEL]

Maybe she was fucked up mentally but all it would have taken is a "no let's not go there" from her, but I'm to blame for everything.

And this was only sleeping over and basically PG13 action. I dread to think what kind of hell she would have unleashed if we actually fucked.

If I were you I'd cut ties, this can only end badly for you if it goes any further. When she and her boyfriend get back together if this night ever comes up in conversation she will tell him that you tried to force yourself on her. This woman has revealed her true nature and I wouldn't be surprised if this is why her BF dumped her.

 

[Bungdit Din]

Yeah, guys with money don't give a shit how educated a woman is or how much money she makes. It's a complete non-issue to men even in general, but especially to guys who make actual money. If you have a million-dollar house, a couple of cars, a couple of motorcycles and are still left with money to invest for your olden days, what the hell do you care what the woman makes? It's completely different attributes in a woman that matter to guys.

This is due to female solipsism, projection/pridefulness/sunk-cost fallacy, and their sociopathic lack of empathy (for men). Since money/status/power, and so on, is what they find attractive in the opposite sex, they just assume that that's what the opposite sex also finds attractive. The alternative - that men are attracted to proxies for fertility/fecundity, such as youthfulness and beauty - is simply unthinkable.

But the best response, imo, to uncomprehending girlbosses, is to just say something like, "Well, luv, I can't fuck your career, and your degree doesn't give me a hard-on." And leave it at that.

 

[saintJogger]

"Well, luv, I can't fuck your career, and your degree doesn't give me a hard-on."

I'm gonna start using that whenever someone insists I go on a date with some fat, 35-year-old slob who totally "has a great job and is well-educated".

 

[Male Idiot]

I am thinking that the personal advice posts about touching grass, working out, no games, no hobbies, be chad, clean your room etc are just from old men, whose marriage or auch experience is from the 20th century and are in their forties or fifties.

These dating advices wouldn't be that bad if there was still societal pressure on women to marry asap and make babies because baby Jesus needs playmates. I am the biggest fedora tipper on the right, but even I can confidently state that religious zealots at least enforce a working mating strategy.

This advice is just extremely out of date, or at least not applicable for most men.

The pressures are just gone, and abortion, birth control, feminism, girlbosses all render these advices useless.

The current meta is, you live your best life, goooorl.
Take a lot of chad cock, get gifts, get big vacations to some fancy place, do some drugs, and yolo!

There isn't any incentive to settle down before they hit the wall. Even if Tyrone nuts in, they just get the niglet goodified before birth. If that fails government will bail them out.

Than they hit the wall, sometimes with a sprog in tow, and do tiktoks on how they aren't getting Chad anymore, and ya'll need to man up, etc.

The "problem" is, no heterosexual man wants an old woman with some random's kid as a package, outside of a gay muslim needing a beard. And they still want the beta bux too.

Yeah doomer yeah gay I know, but this is in all likelyhood the most socially destructive mating strategy. Islam does way better, and even Rapejeet will at least make replacements, consent or not.

Now I don't believe in an incel revolution. Socially awkward, shy men will not form an army of rape like how the liberal woman envision it. They'll play overwatch and crank it to that british chick with the sniper girlfriend.

Invest in catfood stonks if you got spare cash.

Inevitably as the natives die out, immigrants will come in until they can take political power. When, not if, that happens, they'll impose their very much not feminist values.

 

[Stasi]

Counterpoint: she's mad at you because you didn't fuck her.

I don't think it's that but you might be onto something. I didn't want to hang out when she was dating, think she was annoyed about that (you only want to spend time with me if I'm single reeee) and this is an avenue to give it to me with both barrels for every way I've wronged her in the past.

 

[Bungdit Din]

I don't think it's that but you might be onto something. I didn't want to hang out when she was dating, think she was annoyed about that (you only want to spend time with me if I'm single reeee) and this is an avenue to give it to me with both barrels for every way I've wronged her in the past.

This is a job for Black Phillip (RIP Patrice), but he'd probably say that you're still in there, if you still want to nail her. If she's sending you a deluge of emotional texts, then that means you got under her skin, and, moreover, you're supplying her with delicious drama. That is catnip to hoes. I mean, she's still talking to you (as opposed to ghosting). Love/hate - two sides of the same coin, and easily flipped - and so long as you get her in the feels, one way or the other, you can get her. Main thing is, you refused to let yourself be friendzoned, since you've made your intentions clear, so you passed that shit test (the 'only spending time with when single' thing). Again, she was probably disappointed (and frustrated) that you didn't escalate matters when she stayed over, 'cause my guess is she wants to use you for a rebound. Play your cards right, Playa, and I foresee a spectacular revengefuck in your future. Or rape charges. Either's good.

 

[X Prime]

Play your cards right, Playa, and I foresee a spectacular revengefuck in your future. Or rape charges.

This man is correct on the possibility of the latter, and I personally would not take the risk.

 

[Bungdit Din]

This man is correct on the possibility of the latter, and I personally would not take the risk.

Don't be too hasty; he hasn't told us how big her tits are yet.

 

[The Ugly One]

Women say they want to be treated as complete equals, but they don't. Wanting a man who's better educated and who makes more money than her is all that's needed to prove that.

Right, men and women being equals would mean women start being attracted to equality, not superiority. This works itself out society-wide, too. Because being rich and powerful doesn't get a woman the best men, she'll never strive as hard as a man does to become rich and powerful. Consequently, there will always be a net social disparity in wealth and power between men and women. The only way to achieve social equality is for women to change who they're attracted to.

Inevitably as the natives die out, immigrants will come in until they can take political power. When, not if, that happens, they'll impose their very much not feminist values.

Only the strong survive. Liberals think it's a moral principle they can overturn via a fat feminist hectoring you at a corporate DEI workshop; it's just one of the laws of Nature, the same laws that will kill that blimp with diabetes in spite of her "body positivity."

 

[X Prime]

Right, men and women being equals would mean women start being attracted to equality, not superiority.

This is another situation where women say a thing (that they want equality) but are simply lying.

Speaking of lying, I had a thought while reading this thread. It seems to me that a lot of the problems with women that are spoken of in this thread boil down to one simple, common thing: they live with the belief that they possess some kind of innate, irreducible value.

This is in opposition to reality in which all beings' value is relative to the beholder and dependent on personal traits which vary over time. The woman knows her looks inevitably fade, but does not want to face the reality that this means her value is reduced to most others. Her intelligence and conversational skill are only valued by the people who know and cherish her personally, but she does not want to face that reality and thinks it is universally valued.

In sum, I submit that many women are quite simply delusional. My question is, is this too reductionist?

 

[Lian Xing]

It seems to me that a lot of the problems with women that are spoken of in this thread boil down to one simple, common thing: they live with the belief that they possess some kind of innate, irreducible value.

They do: they have a uterus. That is infinitely valuable if you want to see your people survive. Women are the population bottleneck. It's also the reason women will

never strive as hard as a man does to become rich and powerful.

Women don't have to.

In sum, I submit that many women are quite simply delusional.

They aren't delusional, they have been brainwashed. If you want to destroy your enemy, you don't slaughter the men, you make the women want to be infertile, to avoid reproducing, or reproduce in a way that destroys your enemy. There is a group of (((people))) who subvert the way its supposed to be, and we get the decline of western civilization.

 

[X Prime]

They do: they have a uterus. That is infinitely valuable if you want to see your people survive.

The key word in what I said is "irreducible."

The value of an individual uterus is reduced by time (or, to be even more pedantic, the presence of eggs). Many women make the mistake of thinking they have individual, universal value outside of tangibles such as that.

As far as I am aware, outside the realm of philosophy men do not seem to make that kind of mistake to the same degree. At least I would fucking hope that after a certain point men realize they can't maintain their physique.

 

[Lian Xing]

Many women make the mistake of thinking they have universal value outside of tangibles such as that.

I must not have been clear. It's brainwashing. Women are brainwashed to think they have value outside of reproduction. Women waste their true value because they have been convinced to waste it. Nothing more, nothing less. Instead of being celebrated for being a mother, they have been programmed to despise it, and SSRIs and SNRIs only mask the symptoms.