Are SJWS evil?

[Terrorist]

In general, SJWs aren't evil but misguided, which is just as bad, since their ideology is pretty fucked up at its core (the road to hell is paved with good intentions). You have a lot of malicious people out for power (Wu), money (Anita), or protection from past misdeeds (Nick Nyberg), and dangerous mental cases like Vade, but the rank and file SJW actually 100% believes that they're doing good and has no ulterior motive. An autistic kind of sincerity is where they draw their power from, and if they weren't sincere they wouldn't be as powerful.

Then again, even those rank-and-file people are willing to do/condone some pretty vile shit towards that goal (getting people fired, etc.), so if you judge evil based on results rather than intent, you could call them evil. But either way, they're bad news.

 

[Sweet and Savoury]

My issue with the SJW'ism that's on the rise is the moral righteousness they feel.

If your not one of them then your an "undesirable" and thus fair game for anything they do to you.

They feel fully justified in getting someone fired from their job for a comment they don't like. They will scream bloody murder to frame fucking white male because it started a conversation. They will lie like a dog to Authorities and sleep perfectly fine at night because thier victim wasn't part of the progressive stack and thus was totally deserving to get jailed for something they didn't do.

A moral imperative is crazy dangerous in the hands of a zealot.

 

[Mrs Paul]

Most of them aren't evil, just insanely mis-guided. A lot of them seem to be young kids who grew up with helicoptor parents, so they're incredibly sheltered and naive.

 

[Jaimas]

Check the Bestiary out a moment. Go on, I'll wait.

Short version is this. Most of them aren't really evil. 5s, 6s, 7s, 8s, and 9s aren't usually evil so much as misguided and/or posessed of the belief that it's necessary to get the change they want.

Type 4s are either outright dipshits or so misguided that they allow themselves to be dipshits. There's no middle ground.

Type 1s, 2s, 3s, and 10s are almost to a man reprehensible people. These tiers of Social Justice appeal to sociopaths, either for the personal enrichment, ego-trip, or simple self-satisfaction and they don't care who has to be fucked over to make it happen. It's always these assholes that dictate policy, and when policy is dictated by people who don't give a shit about anyone but themselves, you can expect the others to follow suit.

 

[DrunkTails]

Depends on the SJW in question. I normally categorize them as either sheep, useful idiots, maniacs and parasites.

Sheep are the numerical advantage of the sjw, not really evil but more misguided. Their function is to act as fodder and attack dogs.

Useful idiots are the batteries that think they are doing the right thing. These are only loved and respected due to either monetary, audience or useful skill. Once they are no longer useful, they are cast out and demonized.

Maniacs are the sjws who have gone the deep end. Best examples (at least for me) are Wu and Chu. The level of evil is debatable as they are either questionably or outright insane.

Parasites is the definition of SJW evil. These are the sjws who use others for their gain and as attack dogs. SJWs like Anita, Zoe, and Randi are examples of this kind of sjw. Taking Randi as an example, she has been the cause of numerous witch hunts on the web, actively ordering her followers to harass any person that dares to even suggest doubting their law. These aren't like maniacs who are crazy one way or another. They are lucid enough to know what they are doing and what to do to gain what they want.

 

[Ponderous Pillock]

Evil? No. Misguided? I'd actually say "no" as well. Ignorant? Fuck me, yes.

We're connected to the internet, a thing that would've made previous centuries of people shit themselves with the terrifying amount of information, learning and other resources at its command.

I can punch in a few choice phrases and be reading a scientific paper within miliseconds.

The information is out there, and you can soon find it, indeed it's what most folks might do if it interests them.

SJW's, and regressives of that ilk, however, narrow their worldview to that of peasants of the middle ages, if it's not something they have absolutely personally experienced than any argument to the contrary is invalid.

Experts? Experts might as well be daemons, wizards and tricksters to them, for they speak strange words and spend long periods of time telling them that their personal experience is not what is felt more widely.

Indeed mi'lord, theys invent neu werds so them tricksters and suchlike have to try and keep ups, so they does.

Regressives/SJW's, subjects of the farms all never got over being 16 years old. When kids reach 16 they start to read and begin to develop specialist subjects and interests that may carry into the rest of their lives.

And boy, oh boy, do they fucking laud it.

Many a time I've wanted to punch some little twerp for going "ACTUALLY...." and launching into some bollocks because they've read one book, in many cases the one book that just happens to counter your point and they do so in the way obnoxious 16 year olds do.

 

[Ravenor]

Evil? No. Misguided? I'd actually say "no" as well. Ignorant? Fuck me, yes.

We're connected to the internet, a thing that would've made previous centuries of people shit themselves with the terrifying amount of information, learning and other resources at its command.

I can punch in a few choice phrases and be reading a scientific paper within miliseconds.

The information is out there, and you can soon find it, indeed it's what most folks might do if it interests them.

SJW's, and regressives of that ilk, however, narrow their worldview to that of peasants of the middle ages, if it's not something they have absolutely personally experienced than any argument to the contrary is invalid.

Experts? Experts might as well be daemons, wizards and tricksters to them, for they speak strange words and spend long periods of time telling them that their personal experience is not what is felt more widely.

Indeed mi'lord, theys invent neu werds so them tricksters and suchlike have to try and keep ups, so they does.

Regressives/SJW's, subjects of the farms all never got over being 16 years old. When kids reach 16 they start to read and begin to develop specialist subjects and interests that may carry into the rest of their lives.

And boy, oh boy, do they fucking laud it.

Many a time I've wanted to punch some little twerp for going "ACTUALLY...." and launching into some bollocks because they've read one book, in many cases the one book that just happens to counter your point and they do so in the way obnoxious 16 year olds do.

You summed up my thoughts on this situation prity much perfectly, I don't think SJW's are evil (a word that's far to over used) or as common as we'd think they are just really vocal and have a platform that allows them to engage in echo chamber behaviors you rarely see outside of cults.

I think that the whole SJW movement is a outgrowth of a few certain social factors the most notable being that most of them are part of "generation bubblewrap" who have never really been exposed to anything that challenges them intellectually or emotionally without having some one step in and remove the source of irritation impeding there growth, in addition to that I feel that there is a growing sentiment of distrust in knowledge that's allowing issues like this to fester, the SJW's are the most obvious aspect of this on some parts of the internet.

 

[ICametoLurk]

Pure Evil.

 

[Ponderous Pillock]

You summed up my thoughts on this situation prity much perfectly, I don't think SJW's are evil (a word that's far to over used) or as common as we'd think they are just really vocal and have a platform that allows them to engage in echo chamber behaviors you rarely see outside of cults.

I think that the whole SJW movement is a outgrowth of a few certain social factors the most notable being that most of them are part of "generation bubblewrap" who have never really been exposed to anything that challenges them intellectually or emotionally without having some one step in and remove the source of irritation impeding there growth, in addition to that I feel that there is a growing sentiment of distrust in knowledge that's allowing issues like this to fester, the SJW's are the most obvious aspect of this on some parts of the internet.

I'd say that we're seeing some overlap with these guys being part of the mollycoddled and the, mercifully short lived, era of "participation trophies."

This is pretty much the end result of this. People who do tiny, miniscule things and then proceed to demand money for nothing.

Nora and her bots, ADF and his supposed "oppression" all the endless, endless useless people with no real work ethic and no real sense of scale in their achievements.

All of them have bloody patreons and expect people to give them money because "...I deserve money. I need money. Plz gib."

They blame success on "privilege" which is pretty fucking gauling to someone who either 1) Worked a 40+ hour work week and the best part of 20 hours a week of night lessons to get a degree, or 2) The mega-successful, who sacrifice social lives, relationships and work 100+ hour work weeks to get their business off of the ground.

They're fools, they'd baulk at such a concept as that. Why? Because not too long ago the man who ran Tyrell's crisps and recently sold it for a tidy profit pointed this out to a generation of sixth formers here in the UK and they fucking baulked at the concept of working 100 hours or more to ensure the business worked. Because that's what it fucking takes folks, even the damn little boutique shops run for bored housewives, a good chunk of work goes into it.

But they don't understand this, they just see the end result, the old adage of "God Helps Those Who Helps Themselves" is an alien fucking concept to these people because they're busy inventing new words like "smol".

Replace "privilege" with "spirits" or "witchcraft" and once again, the fucking modern-day-peasant analogy holds true.

"The Lord's not more successful than oi am, no siree. e's got a court witch crafting spells and such to keep 'is skin pale like fresh driven snow, that's 'ow 'ee does it, says oi."

All while they continue to work their rock-filled field, that if they bothered to put some effort into could spring up.

But no, they can't afford the wichcraft t'do it. No sirr.

 

[Ravenor]

Nora and her bots, ADF and his supposed "oppression" all the endless, endless useless people with no real work ethic and no real sense of scale in their achievements.

All of them have bloody patreons and expect people to give them money because "...I deserve money. I need money. Plz gib."

Yea that annoys me, they just found a platform and abused it (not unlike crowdfunding). Systems like Patreon should be there to support creatives who's work is given to you for free not just because you can shout the loudest.

They're fools, they'd baulk at such a concept as that. Why? Because not too long ago the man who ran Tyrell's crisps and recently sold it for a tidy profit pointed this out to a generation of sixth formers here in the UK and they fucking baulked at the concept of working 100 hours or more to ensure the business worked. Because that's what it fucking takes folks, even the damn little boutique shops run for bored housewives, a good chunk of work goes into it.

But they don't understand this, they just see the end result, the old adage of "God Helps Those Who Helps Themselves" is an alien fucking concept to these people because they're busy inventing new words like "smol".

Preaching to the quire on that one, for a few of my interests it's right slap bang in the middle of my busy season so I'm doing about 12 hours a day at the moment mostly dealing with supply issues (long story) but people in some age groups really have a disconnect between effort and return for the effort put in.

Do you have a source on that story about Tyrell's btw I'd be interested in reading it.

 

[Null]

Everyone I don't like is literally Hitler.

Social Justice goes back to the 1800s, but during the 1930s a Catholic priest named Charles Coughlin advocated peace with Hitler and Nazi Germany through his periodical, Social Justice. Winston Churchill warned that "the Fascists of the future will be the anti-fascists".

So yes they're evil and literally Hitler.

 

[NG 070]

Ehhhh, yes and no.

At its core, social justice is not inherently a bad thing. Like all good things or ideas, it's only when it becomes perverted in malicious ways that it quickly becomes a nightmare. Like the concept of communism: in theory, it sounds like a good idea. But after seeing it actually executed in practice throughout the course of history, it's proven that it doesn't exactly work as theorized/promised.

Social justice is sort of like that. It has some great ideas and concepts to help others, but you have these mollycoddled spoiled brats who go around and scream in peoples' faces at any perceived slight or offense. The fact most of these self-proclaimed SJWs are middle-to-upper class white children who live in expensive costal cities only undermines any efforts for any meaningful progress, because in their talking over women, LGBTQ+ and non-WASP people, they fail to recognize them as individuals who may not ascribe to their own ideology in lockstep: look at people like Peter Thiel (gay libertarian who supported Trump), Ben Carson (black neurosurgeon who's a Republican), Caitlyn Jenner (a MTF who I think is still a registered Republican), and even Susan Sarandon (she supported Jill Stein while everyone else in Hollywood went bug nuts for Clinton).

They also fall into extreme black-and-white thinking, and I'm not talking about race (although that's a huge part of it). They deal in absolutes. To them, if you're not with them, you're their sworn enemy and they will never forgive or forget even the smallest misstep. They'll even go so far as to try and ruin the livelihood of someone even over a harmless joke or remark. This is largely the sort of mentality that helped cost them the election and drive away would-be voters who were on the fence. They lack self-reflection and instead of looking at how their actions might have helped cost them the election, they double down on their SJW ideology and further alienate people like on-the-fencers, Libertarians, Greens, and Independents.

That said, social injustice should be brought to life and rectified. But the way the SJWs go about it is the completely wrong way. And I've ever reason to believe that this election may be the beginning of the end of their stranglehold over society. I just hope it doesn't go too far in the opposite direction, ala the horseshoe effect (but it probably already has).

 

[Mrs Paul]

Fighting for social justice is a good thing. I would differentiate between SJWs and social justice activists. The latter would be people like Martin Luther King, Oscar Romero, Susan B. Anthony, etc. And even ordinary people who educate themselves about the world, rather than flipping out and acting from emotion.
Don't get me wrong -- there's nothing wrong with being passionate. Passion is good -- Rosa Parks said one of the things that made her strong was thinking of Emmett Till and his death and what his family was going through. But these kids aren't passionate -- they're hysterical. Passion should have focus.
The problem with say, BLM is that it started out with good intentions, but it was all too loosely organized, and too many people use it as a platform for being douchebags. (Plus a better title, "Black Lives Matter Too" might have been better)
Anyone who would say that bigotry doesn't exist anymore is kidding themselves. Racism, homophobia, sexism, etc are all still with us. They always will be. But you don't use a flamethrower to light birthday candles.

 

[Jaimas]

Everyone I don't like is literally Hitler.

Social Justice goes back to the 1800s, but during the 1930s a Catholic priest named Charles Coughlin advocated peace with Hitler and Nazi Germany through his periodical, Social Justice. Winston Churchill warned that "the Fascists of the future will be the anti-fascists".

So yes they're evil and literally Hitler.

Well, I fucking learned something today.

 

[Pikimon]

Well, I fucking learned something today.

but what does this have to do about ethics in boobsliders

 

[Daughter of Cernunnos]

Yes because their logic can be used to defend lots of shitty, inhuman things.

 

[Muttnik]

The movements started out with good intentions. Most of them at least. That doesn't excuse the clusterfuck that sjw activism stands for these days. I feel bad for how delusional they are. Not evil. Just delusional.

I also think it's just funny how ridiculous the whole sjw-brand women's empowerment movement has gotten. If you've ever witnessed a catfight or any salty back and forth banter between two women, you'll quickly notice how much women hate each other despite all the hand-holding and coddling that goes around in places like Tumblr.

 

[Mozzarella Dicks]

Social Justice is what they call it, I call it evil oppressive systems of racist, sexist bigotry.

I believe in regular justice. That a person who works and produces something good should receive praise and rewards for it and that someone who does not bring good things into the world but sets out instead to destroy or leech off of the work of others should be condemned and punished.

 

[NG 070]

Yes because their logic can be used to defend lots of shitty, inhuman things.

I think once people began using it to defend pedophilia and incest on Tumblr, was when I realized it had officially not only gone completely off the rails, but also exploded into a fiery trainwreck from engine to caboose.

That's another reason why SJWs are beginning to not be taken seriously anymore: they don't make any effort to cut out the really fuckawful people in their movement for who knows what reason. Like, they ignore the lunatics who scream about how pedophilia is a good thing and then they get all indignant when people rightfully point out that their movement supports pedophilia. Same thing with incest.

I also think it's just funny how ridiculous the whole sjw-brand women's empowerment movement has gotten. If you've ever witnessed a catfight or any salty back and forth banter between two women, you'll quickly notice how much women hate each other despite all the hand-holding and coddling that goes around in places like Tumblr.

Tell me about it. For all the "YAAS SLAY QUEEN SLAY" idealization of women on Tumblr and Twitter, they are still extremely catty and petty about other women. Fictional or real. Especially if you don't tow the line in regards to feminism, particularly the third-wave going on right now. I see this all the time, even in real life, and it's brutal. There's a reason why even the most rational of feminists -yes, I know that's an oxymoron to some, but work with me here- hate sites like Buzzfeed, Jezebel, and The Mary Sue (especially Jezebel).

 

[POWER IN MISERY]

the majority are just trend indulging narcissists