Off-Topic Detransitioner/Desister Stories - People you know or heard about deciding to return to their original gender/sex

PTSD is a legit diagnosis for a very specific form of trauma and I'm so tired of hearing these whackos claim to have it. It's usually centered around a specific traumatic event, usually one in which there is a loss of control, and not a generalized sort of trauma over being ill-treated as a child or what have you. It's the one that gives you flashbacks from being in a freak car accident or exploded by an IED in the sandbox. It can be very serious because people with it can legit dissociate and have flashbacks where they think they're back in the event, and that can be distressing, if not dangerous for them and potentially others. It's a very serious thing and not at all on the same level as your mom making snide comments.

I guess they like to claim it because it's something people generally recognize as severe and they want people to take them seriously about being a wounded bird.
Yeah it ticks me off too. War, violent crime (including child abuse), serious accidents, severe medical events- these things cause PTSD. And unlike some psych disorders, it has a pretty long-standing, consistent definition of when it onsets after the event, how it presents, how you may distinguish it from other psychiatric issues or simple shock that will pass with time. It took a decent amount of study and effort to get the diagnosis established in the wake of modern warfare, as the powers that be did not wish to acknowledge that their little imperialist excursions had such a measurable human toll even beyond the deaths and physical maiming. It then took further effort to establish that the same syndrome could be observed in women who were victims of violent assaults, and crime victims in general.

But all these "complex PTSD" patients and the therapists pushing that idea are muddying those otherwise clear waters. And the people who are most put in danger by it are those with the normal, ordinary PTSD.
 
I've spent a considerable amount of time consuming content from detransitioners. I have concluded they are just as whacked out as delusional trannies.

Autism paired with bipolar disorder are common with these people. Have you ever interacted with a bipolar person who is in a bad manic phase? One month they'll suddenly end their marriage and quit their great job to convert to a new age cult, move to another state with no money. They make very extreme decisions and personality changes based off of emotional highs.

They have no real identity even after detransitioning. They just are latching onto something they heard about and adopt the most extreme position.

They will go back and forth their entire life because gender dysphoria is a feature of their mental illness.

In conclusion, transgenderism isn't the source of their problems. It's a symptom of their problems. Just as transitioning doesn't fix them, neither will detransitioning.
 
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Guy wants to detransition, and his wacky wife will likely push him back into trannydom for those sweet, attention points.

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I have a feeling that there are quite a few couples out there, whether lesbian or straight, where the transing is quietly pushed by the partner.
>god damn it nigga we're just going to be a boring straight couple if you don't fuck up your body and I need those special queer and sapphic brownie points because you don't really expect me to get a personality right?
 
This extreme case of bpd is my favorite detrans.


She's an absolutely insane ex trannie who admits she trooned out to manipulate people, and cause violence is more acceptable for men. She burnt down her mom's house and as a result, most of her family hates her with her sister saying in an interview that she grew up in fear.

She recently got broken up with by her boyfriend cause she's a major alcoholic. Of course her boyfriend not wanting a fall down drunk around makes him satan.

She went to a sober living facility but left cause they were evil. Why? Well cause they didn't let her drink.

She went to a shelter and they were evil. Why? Cause they wouldn't let her stumble around in the shower at 3am.

She could go to her parents, shockingly. But they're also evil cause they'd refuse to let her drink. Even though she claims she wants to stop drinking.

She often tard rages on her Twitter when people come laugh at her or tell her to grow up. Even her own family has commented on her threads and told her to shut the fuck up.

I don't think I've ever seen such a bpd psycho, and my job used to be working with bpd psychos.

Anyway I just think she's hilarious and good cow material. Maybe I'll attempt a thread on her one day
Sinead Watson goes way back on the internet. She used to be an FTM MRA YouTuber named Yorick who got criticized by Magdalen Berns in a 2016 video:
She detransitioned in 2020 but still supported her trans friends, including a detrans friend’s decision to retransition. The last I heard of her, she aligned herself with radfem beliefs- the same beliefs she used to hate even after detransition.

I had no idea that she was this unhinged. But at this point I don’t really have much hope for most detransitioners after seeing their behavior post-transition.
 
Aside from being autistic, this was the case for me. At this time in my life, I absolutely hated puberty and what it was doing to my mind, and I spent at least the next 12 years wishing it would go away. I really wanted my mind to go back to the way it was before. To some extent it has, thankfully. Had I been born in the current generation though, I probably would have been perscribed puberty blockers at best and pushed towards SRS at absolute worst.
Hey, if you don’t mind I want to ask you some questions about your experiences and see if they line up with mine. Anyone else in this thread is obviously welcome to chime in, I just ask that you keep the unfiltered troon hate with nothing of substance to a minimum.

I’ve generally felt like some sort of “failed dude” for most of my life. I was never into sports, competing, anything like that and I got flak for it from my parents. Did you have any experiences where you just didn’t vibe with the general guy experience?

Did you have any sort of, infatuation with dresses from a young age like me? (I was like, really interested in Barbies and my little pony (shocker) and liked looking at the princess dresses when I was 5-10, and I lived in the Deep South so I highly doubt any sort of woke grooming was going on)

Asking all this because I’m currently 20, and I’ve been thinking I might be a troon since I was 14-15. My parents don’t really tolerate that shit, so I haven’t had an opportunity to confirm or deny that.

Part of me thinks that I might just be an autistic effeminate guy and not a troon, and this is basically the only corner of the internet where you can ask these sorts of questions without being banned before anyone responds.
 
Sinead Watson goes way back on the internet. She used to be an FTM MRA YouTuber named Yorick who got criticized by Magdalen Berns in a 2016 video:
She detransitioned in 2020 but still supported her trans friends, including a detrans friend’s decision to retransition. The last I heard of her, she aligned herself with radfem beliefs- the same beliefs she used to hate even after detransition.

I had no idea that she was this unhinged. But at this point I don’t really have much hope for most detransitioners after seeing their behavior post-transition.
Oh shit, I didn't know about this!

With her extreme bpd, it's only a matter of time before she finds something or something else to obsess over and I can't wait to see what it is. Once more and more people detrans and start getting asspats for being so sooper brave, she'll ditch that talking point on her search for the next thing that'll make her unique.


She's been a bit boring lately. In between reposting anti trans articles, she's just been whining about how men on tinder don't respect her. Because as we all know, those that use tinder are typically respectable men looking for long term relationships from explosive titless internet addicts that cant put the bottle down.
 

“Planned Parenthood F*cked Me Up For Life” : Detransitioner Says She Was Given Testosterone By Planned Parenthood After One Phone Call


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A young woman is speaking out about her experience being transitioned by Planned Parenthood after being prescribed testosterone over the telephone. Kate Pond, who first shared her story to Tiktok, told The Publica just how easy it had been to start a hormone regimen with little oversight.

As a sophomore in high school on the central coast of California, Pond describes how she felt that she didn’t fit in with her more popular peers and, like many youth in her situation, sought out comfort on the internet. But her problems began when she stumbled upon a micro-blogging social media platform called Tumblr in 2013.

At the time, Tumblr was enjoying a meteoric rise in popularity, announcing over 13 billion global page views that year. The site was particularly popular amongst teen and college-age youth, with half of Tumblr’s visitor base being under the age of 25.

But while the site had a huge user base of fans gushing over various cartoons, video games, and musicians, it was also known to harbor a number of disturbing subcultures, such as those encouraging eating disorders and self-harm. Tumblr was also known for the often-wild “social justice” campaigns that circulated on the site related to weight, race, or gender.

Speaking to The Publica, Pond says it was there that her ordeal began. Isolated at school and unsafe at home with a father who she describes as a “narcissistic abuser,” Pond found some much-needed community on the internet.

“I did not have a good home life. I was bullied in school. I was into fandoms and most of my friends were older people online,” she explains. “One day, one of them mentioned the term ‘gender fluid’ to me. I did not know what it was, and researched on Tumblr.” After referring to Tumblr posts on the subject, Pond soon decided that she fit the description because she did not “feel” like she fit in as a boy or a girl.

Pond first “came out” to her math teacher, who then introduced her to the school’s Social Justice League, where several LGBTQ students met twice per week. While Pond says she found acceptance on Tumblr for her new identity, she soon found that acceptance did not extend to the Social Justice League, where other youth mocked her for her appearance.

“Tumblr really affirmed what I thought I was, but I was never enough for anyone [in SJL]. They told me that because I had long curly hair, that I could not be gender fluid,” she says.

Pond explains that she became increasingly depressed. In the summer of 2015, she sought out a pixie cut and began to identify as a “female to male” transgender. She “came out” once again to the Social Justice League president and her friends, who then told her they were “proud” of her.

For Christmas in 2015, Pond asked that her presents come in the form of gift cards to various stores. She used the cards to purchase low-quality “chest binders” to flatten her breasts.

“They were super tight. I could not breathe. But my mindset was ‘I can’t breathe but I look more masculine’. I changed how I dressed and I put mascara on my fake mustache,” Pond says.

“When COVID began years later, I was living in California and I was stuck in my dad’s house. I thought ‘the world is ending so I might as well die in the body I want to be in’. I started researching transitioning on Google, and the first thing that popped up was Planned Parenthood.”

Pond was 20 years old at the time, and, after trying to set up an appointment with the clinic, she was told that Planned Parenthood had moved all appointments to telephone due to the lockdown policies.

“The day of my telehealth appointment, they basically asked me three questions: The first question was ‘why do you want to be on testosterone?’ I said it was because I identify as a transgender man, and I want to be more comfortable in my body. Then they asked me if I had medical problems such as joint, lung or heart problems. I told them no, because I didn’t. Lastly, they asked me which pharmacy I wanted the testosterone sent to.”

Planned Parenthood gave Pond three options for her testosterone medication; A gel, a patch or a needle. She chose the patch and was able to pick them up from the pharmacy the very next day.

“I think the co-pay was around $15 or $20. I was on the patch for maybe a month, and the whole time I was having an allergic reaction where the patch was applied,” Pond recalls. “In June of 2020, I called them to say I was having a reaction, they then suggested the gel but that I would have to up my dose.”

About three months into her treatment, Pond began to experience severe and crippling migraines, one of which put her in the emergency room. Planned Parenthood dismissed the incident as a “side effect.”

Pond then had a seizure, and suffered from severe joint pain afterwards, and again, Planned Parenthood told her it was a possible side effect. Confused, Pond began to question whether she had been properly informed of the downsides of taking testosterone, but Planned Parenthood challenged her and claimed she had been fully informed. While Pond says she had asked about any negative side effects when beginning the hormones, she says the Planned Parenthood clinician hand-waived them away as being “rare.”

Just 6 months into taking the hormones, Pond decided she wanted to wean off of the drugs. But, after asking Planned Parenthood for help to safely cease her regimen, she says she was ignored.

“I watched a story about a detransitioner and started to follow her, Cat Cattinson. I began to relate to her and started to question if this is really what I wanted. From then on I began to detransition,” Pond says.

“I had to wean myself off because when I told them I wanted to stop, they just kept offering me injectables or the patch, even though I had a bad reaction to the patch … I was on the gel for maybe 5-6 months before I realized that it was not making me any happier than I was before … and I did not feel transgender anymore,” she explains.

But even after ceasing her testosterone regimen, Pond says that she still continued to suffer with physical consequences. In a TikTok video, Pond says that she still has migraines, she cannot walk without pain, she has fatigue, and has gained approximately 50lbs. Her menstrual cycle, which stopped after she began testosterone, has still not returned.

Though Pond has tried to confront Planned Parenthood clinicians regarding the prolonged side effects she has been struggling with, she has simply been accused of having “pre-existing conditions.”

In 2022, after having stopped testosterone for nearly one year, Pond began to realize that she was also losing her hair. She called Planned Parenthood yet again, and was told that this symptom was “rare” but that there was nothing more they could do.

Since detransitioning, Pond says she has lost all of her “LGBTQ friends,” who subsequently exiled her from their community. She adds that when she tried to speak with her doctor about the side effects from testosterone, she was told that she was being “phobic.”

In Pond’s video on Tiktok, she voiced her frustrations to Planned Parenthood.

“You [Planned Parenthood] just didn’t want to inform me because then I would not have been on it [testosterone] and I guarantee you lots of other people seeking that medication would not be on it if they knew,” Pond says. “So my question is how can it be informed consent if you’re not informed of every possible negative side effect?”

Pond goes on to warn people to speak to a therapist before making a life-altering decision.

“Before doing anything medically to your body, please seek out therapy. I know that some trans people will tell you there is nothing wrong with you, but therapy is amazing. Talk to someone who is unbiased.”
 
PP is evil, the school is horribly wrong and evil, however I want to pound into everyone's head:

Isolated at school and unsafe at home with a father who she describes as a “narcissistic abuser,”

Take this shit with a massive grain of salt when it's coming from someone who has demonstrated obvious cluster B traits.

They always mouth the same lines. They know it gets them what they want.

And lo and behold, she frames the story as having been passively "transitioned by PP" and starts the story when she is a child in school however:

Pond was 20 years old at the time
She was an adult when PP passive voice caused her to become a tran.
 
Hey, if you don’t mind I want to ask you some questions about your experiences and see if they line up with mine. Anyone else in this thread is obviously welcome to chime in, I just ask that you keep the unfiltered troon hate with nothing of substance to a minimum.

I’ve generally felt like some sort of “failed dude” for most of my life. I was never into sports, competing, anything like that and I got flak for it from my parents. Did you have any experiences where you just didn’t vibe with the general guy experience?

Did you have any sort of, infatuation with dresses from a young age like me? (I was like, really interested in Barbies and my little pony (shocker) and liked looking at the princess dresses when I was 5-10, and I lived in the Deep South so I highly doubt any sort of woke grooming was going on)

Asking all this because I’m currently 20, and I’ve been thinking I might be a troon since I was 14-15. My parents don’t really tolerate that shit, so I haven’t had an opportunity to confirm or deny that.

Part of me thinks that I might just be an autistic effeminate guy and not a troon, and this is basically the only corner of the internet where you can ask these sorts of questions without being banned before anyone responds.
I won't give specific details (not interested in doxing myself,) but we seem to be similar enough. You are probably just autistic. Many of us lack the psychological "gender guardrails" and the disgust reflex that normies have, so this is common among people like us.

Since you are unsure about your identity, I will present you with another option: you don't need to have an identity figured out. It isn't an apparent option at first since the current cultural hegemony obsesses over identity, but it is possible to just shove the questioning of who you are out of your head and focus on the other things that you like. None of it matters in the long run. What you do is far more important than what you are.

At the very least though, keep in mind that the trans movement is designed to create the following:
1) A cohort of imperial eunuchs that are unknowingly loyal to the masters that command their reality tunnels (sounds schizo but I can elaborate if needed.)
2) Permanent customers for the medical industry (see the SRS thread for details.)
 
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I've spent a considerable amount of time consuming content from detransitioners. I have concluded they are just as whacked out as delusional trannies.

Autism paired with bipolar disorder are common with these people. Have you ever interacted with a bipolar person who is in a bad manic phase? One month they'll suddenly end their marriage and quit their great job to convert to a new age cult, move to another state with no money. They make very extreme decisions and personality changes based off of emotional highs.

They have no real identity even after detransitioning. They just are latching onto something they heard about and adopt the most extreme position.

They will go back and forth their entire life because gender dysphoria is a feature of their mental illness.

In conclusion, transgenderism isn't the source of their problems. It's a symptom of their problems. Just as transitioning doesn't fix them, neither will detransitioning.
This is very interesting. I know a guy, older and I assume AGP, who has "detransitioned." ie stopped wearing a wig, lipstick and tiny skirts. At first I was relieved because he used to make my skin crawl in his pretend woman get up. But now I'm just thinking, maybe it was better when my skin crawled as it was my instincts loudly warning me to give him a wide berth (and watch him like a hawk around children). The reality is, he's the same person and I should probably keep my guard up around him no matter how he's dressed.
 
I’ve generally felt like some sort of “failed dude” for most of my life. I was never into sports, competing, anything like that and I got flak for it from my parents. Did you have any experiences where you just didn’t vibe with the general guy experience?

Did you have any sort of, infatuation with dresses from a young age like me? (I was like, really interested in Barbies and my little pony (shocker) and liked looking at the princess dresses when I was 5-10, and I lived in the Deep South so I highly doubt any sort of woke grooming was going on)

Asking all this because I’m currently 20, and I’ve been thinking I might be a troon since I was 14-15. My parents don’t really tolerate that shit, so I haven’t had an opportunity to confirm or deny that.

Part of me thinks that I might just be an autistic effeminate guy and not a troon, and this is basically the only corner of the internet where you can ask these sorts of questions without being banned before anyone responds.
1. The only people who can feel like failed men are men. You are a man. Regardless of complicated feelings about not being an ideal one.
2. It's actually common for many boys to think sparkly stuff is fun when they're young, especially if they have girl play mates and everyone is sharing toys. A lot grow out of it, some don't. You're still a man.
3. It's good your parents don't tolerate it. Maybe they're too harsh about thinking liking certain things is bad. But you're better off than the parents that encourage it TBH.
4. Yes, you're autistic, and possibly effeminate. Just get comfortable with being GNC. It's not a moral failing.

Just because your aesthetics may not necessarily be manly doesn't mean you also still can't fulfill the healthy role of an adult. Pay your bills, keep your things in order, take responsibility for things or people who are in your care if that is the case, etc. It's natural to feel disappointed and not as valued if you don't meet societies ideals, but it is what it is, and most people don't anyway. Just live your life but without lying to yourself or others. I'd recommend rather than going for dresses to find flouncy shirts (or learn to make them), pants with elaborate detailing, nice looking jewelry, and leave it at that. It may fit the aesthetic without being off putting to people and work on your male body.
 
Hey, if you don’t mind I want to ask you some questions about your experiences and see if they line up with mine. Anyone else in this thread is obviously welcome to chime in, I just ask that you keep the unfiltered troon hate with nothing of substance to a minimum.

I’ve generally felt like some sort of “failed dude” for most of my life. I was never into sports, competing, anything like that and I got flak for it from my parents. Did you have any experiences where you just didn’t vibe with the general guy experience?

Did you have any sort of, infatuation with dresses from a young age like me? (I was like, really interested in Barbies and my little pony (shocker) and liked looking at the princess dresses when I was 5-10, and I lived in the Deep South so I highly doubt any sort of woke grooming was going on)

Asking all this because I’m currently 20, and I’ve been thinking I might be a troon since I was 14-15. My parents don’t really tolerate that shit, so I haven’t had an opportunity to confirm or deny that.

Part of me thinks that I might just be an autistic effeminate guy and not a troon, and this is basically the only corner of the internet where you can ask these sorts of questions without being banned before anyone responds.
Read this on ROGD boys, see if it fits.
 
I've noticed an uptick of professionals beginning to make hay from this trend. Since I read a lot of troon-skeptical content on Twitter, this woman started getting pushed into my feed a lot. Then I noticed she was on a troon-skeptical podcast this week:


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No matter their age or situation in life, anyone expressing distress about a perceived mismatch between their mind and their sexed body is crying for help. They deserve our compassion, and the best help available. But "gender-affirming care" — an Orwellian term that in actuality describes sex-denying harm — is clearly not it. Far from being life-saving as activists claim it to be, sex trait modification (STM) shortens patients' lifespans, increasing the risk of all cause mortality, including suicide, cardiovascular disease, metabolic disease, cancers, psychiatric problems, bone health problems and all manner of urogenital issues.

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"Health concerns" mean she is no longer a practicing therapist, she has graduated to "consulting"- well at least she can make (very expensive) lemonade from her situation.

Linkedin shows her as based out of Portland, Oregon. All told she practiced less than 10 years before quitting and setting up as a "consultant" to run these pricey webinars for freaked out parents.

Just scrolled and realized she has an entire other homepage here. There she reveals she is suffering "long haul covid."

As of February 2024, I am taking a partial medical leave. I will not be seeing therapy patients for the foreseeable future. However, I will be seeing consulting clients. Why, you may ask?I have been suffering from symptoms of long haul covid since February, 2022. In January, 2024 I was reinfected with acute covid. In the weeks following, my condition worsened significantly. I am now partially disabled on a daily basis by symptoms including severe fatigue, post-exertional malaise, tachycardia, hypotension, dysautonomia, and shortness of breath. My health is unpredictable and unstable, potentially impacting my patients. My symptoms are worst prior to noon and after 8pm, limiting the hours I have available for work while increasing my need for stress management and a daily commitment to lifestyle interventions. Since I need to cut back on work, but cannot afford to stop working entirely, I have come to the difficult decision to no longer see therapy patients. I take seriously the commitment and responsibility of being someone's mental health provider, and do not want to take the risk that my health instability could send a vulnerable person into further distress.In contrast, I am very clear that consultation is not a mental health service. My consulting clients are not in treatment with me. If they need therapy, I ensure they have a qualified provider who is local to them. I am not responsible for the status of my consulting clients' psychological wellbeing. And because consulting clients are hiring me for my expertise, knowledge, and skills pertaining to a specialized topic, rather than as a therapeutic mirror for their own psyche, there is more room in the consulting relationship for me to be transparent and up-front about my health limitations, whereas I feel the need to protect therapy patients from this information, given the uniquely sensitive nature of the therapeutic relationship. Therefore, working as a consultant only is a more responsible and sustainable choice for me at this time.With this notice being provided, consulting clients should be aware of my health status and the fact that it may impact my availability.
 
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I can understand wanting monetary compensation for doing a lot of work putting together learning material to equip people with tools to preemptively combat the bullshit or help them if their kid comes home with a pronoun pin. It's a lot for normies to get up to date on all at once. And if you're a professional and going through a lot of research to put it all together that's real work you're doing. But that much money per month? That's just excessive!

Plus, one of the reasons a lot of people put such information out publicly is because it's more valuable the easier to access it is.
 
I can understand wanting monetary compensation for doing a lot of work putting together learning material to equip people with tools to preemptively combat the bullshit or help them if their kid comes home with a pronoun pin. It's a lot for normies to get up to date on all at once. And if you're a professional and going through a lot of research to put it all together that's real work you're doing. But that much money per month? That's just excessive!

Plus, one of the reasons a lot of people put such information out publicly is because it's more valuable the easier to access it is.
Yeah looking over the material she has assembled, it's not worthless- however it IS all things I have seen reiterated in many forms and formats all over the web, and not just deep in the depths of the Farms, but on more normie-mommy-blogger-accessible sites as well.

Given she only worked as a therapist for 6ish years total, and only got "woke" about the problematic nature of tranning a couple years ago, I question if she even has any insights that haven't already been provided free by dozens of other parents, ex-trans, radfems, conservatives, yada yada you name it.

It's very evident that she's trying to use the fact that ROGD parents are likely to be affluent and willing to pay out the nose to feel they are "doing something" and "trusting an expert" to try to patch over the fact that she's having an attack of neurasthenia and can no longer do the job she probably went into debt to learn how to do.
 
It's very evident that she's trying to use the fact that ROGD parents are likely to be affluent and willing to pay out the nose to feel they are "doing something" and "trusting an expert" to try to patch over the fact that she's having an attack of neurasthenia and can no longer do the job she probably went into debt to learn how to do.
First world problems have first world solutions with first world prices.
 
Hey, if you don’t mind I want to ask you some questions about your experiences and see if they line up with mine. Anyone else in this thread is obviously welcome to chime in, I just ask that you keep the unfiltered troon hate with nothing of substance to a minimum.

I’ve generally felt like some sort of “failed dude” for most of my life. I was never into sports, competing, anything like that and I got flak for it from my parents. Did you have any experiences where you just didn’t vibe with the general guy experience?

Did you have any sort of, infatuation with dresses from a young age like me? (I was like, really interested in Barbies and my little pony (shocker) and liked looking at the princess dresses when I was 5-10, and I lived in the Deep South so I highly doubt any sort of woke grooming was going on)

Asking all this because I’m currently 20, and I’ve been thinking I might be a troon since I was 14-15. My parents don’t really tolerate that shit, so I haven’t had an opportunity to confirm or deny that.

Part of me thinks that I might just be an autistic effeminate guy and not a troon, and this is basically the only corner of the internet where you can ask these sorts of questions without being banned before anyone responds.
Like what you like. Be as stereotypically "feminine" or as "masculine" as you want. Just remember, you cannot change biology and so you cannot stop being a guy no matter what you do or do not do. Many boys who have female siblings or relatives will play with girl toys/Barbies along with them as a means of being social and part of the fascination might be that you are glimpsing a world that you normally do not witness as a boy/man and so it seems "exotic".

If you are are an "effeminate" emotional man, then that is fine, too. It does not make you any less of a man, and by acknowledging your feelings, it might serve as a vaccine against trooning-out as by understanding your emotional states and mental health, you can learn to accept them. Many men become troons because they try and bottle up their feelings as they think that guys can't be "emotional" and so they try trooning-out as "women" for fear of being judged by society for being "sensitive" as they think that is something that men should not do. After all, REM was right when they made that song "Everybody Hurts".

Trooning out would not solve anything, and going down the route of HRT and surgery would only open up a path to a personal hell that you would be unlikely to escape.
 
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Isn't Daisy Strongin (now a tradcath and tradwife) also a fan of Jordan Peterson even during her trans days?

I am seeing a pattern here. Maybe some pooners were using Peterson's take on masculinity as guidelines on how to be a man before deciding that they would never measure up to it?
She was a JBP fan, and went viral for being a token TIF JBP fan.

She’s now married with two kids and a tradwife and Catholic. She posted this comment recently:IMG_2022.jpeg
 
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