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I will defend Musk here, and the reason I will I suspect is the same reason this Thunderfoot guy hates him. From what I can tell Thunderfoot is a scientist of some kind? But without any accolades, a high opinion of himself, and generally no real accomplishments. There are few people as easy to predict and understand as a narcissist with nothing to actually use as a claim to fame. Musk, for all his faults, is trying to -do- things. He throws ideas at the wall and tries them out. And yes, some end up being monumentally stupid like the hyperloop, but at least he -tried- something.

The scientific world has been stagnant for two decades. As Thunderfoot would know in person. Nobody invests in the new advancement to humanity, they just want new drugs for existing diseases, the next version of the iPhone, and a new way to make their overlords money. Scientists in the modern day are just fancy whores. And Thunderfoot -knows- this. And he absolutely hates Musk because Musk is doing the very things that no doubt Thunderfoot saw himself as doing in his narcissistic dreams.

For every Hyperloop, Musk has a SpaceX. And Musk will be remembered for the latter way more than the former when he is gone. Thunderfoot will be forgotten entirely within a single generation.

Thunderf00t is known for two things: First, being one of the biggest of the New Atheists of the 2010 era (to the point that the cultural vandals were ironically talking like he was a saint for how much damage he and the others were doing to the West), and Two, going after people who try and ~do~ things. The latter often revolves finding some tech startup making wild promises that fail scientific scrutiny, such as putting solar panels on roads instead of asphalt.

I hadn't thought of him in years as he caught TDS pretty bad for a while there; looking at his channel it's all Anti-Musk vids nowadays. Same as his Twitter feed. Man has a serious, serious, SERIOUS hate boner for Musk.

Everything highlighted in yellow is an Anti-Elon Musk video:


Basically everything he's posted in the past 10 months. There are more before that cutoff, too.

And yeah, he's a Chemist, apparently.

 

[Sniperwoof]

I've always thought Kamala was pretty haggard looking for her age but she hasn't even been campaigning hard and she looks even more haggard than usual in the past few weeks.

At this rate she might crumble into dust or disappear in a puff of smoke after the first debate.

 

[XYZpdq Jr.]

Pro lifers are just grifters at this point.

there's some who are sincere, but yeah pretty much everybody who's BAN ALL ABORTIONS NOW NOWNOWNOW is a hustler
any real change is going to have to be a slow progression through society like the libs did, it won't be overnight

 

[Rimanah]

Pro lifers are just grifters at this point. Not only have they failed to counter the abortion, they have made themselves isolated from the general public. At this point pro lifers should accept the reality and work down from the late term abortion, offer adoption services and alternative options to win hearts and minds.

What we forget is that abortion IS an essential service despite it being so gruesome. The goal is reducing the number of abortions and increasing birth rates by offering more options and benefits of carrying to full term.

I’m sorry, but this is just a stupid argument to put forth if you’re trying to convince pro-lifers.

The pro-life movement is founded on the axiom that life begins at conception, and consequently all abortion is murder. Telling them to “accept the reality” is equivalent, from their perspective, to saying “accept that murder is essential and we should just reduce the amount of murders.” Even if you are correct that it is essential, you will never convince them with that line of argument. Especially not within the context of them achieving their biggest win in history only two years ago.
It’s just going to fall on deaf ears.

Edit: @XYZpdq Jr. argument right above is much better. If you’re actually concerned about pro-life harming broader goals by letting perfect be the enemy of the good, you should be making practical arguments about what needs to be done right now. But the outright claim that “abortion is essential and we should just accept that” will get you nowhere with the pro-lifers. At best it will isolate their support, at worst it would create an outright schism in the GOP.

 

[Polyboros2]

Vance should respond with "let's"
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Knowing Vance, this is what you'll get if challenged to a duel.

 

[0713]

The only director who did self inserts that weren't obnoxious was Hitchcock, and that because Hitchcock knew he wasn't an actor so he just did tiny cameos where he'd be some background character on screen for a few seconds. It became like a game to spot him in his movies. He didn't try to take over whole scenes.

Peter Jackson too.

As a voice. The main ones he appears in are Pulp Fiction and Django. He didn't direct Dusk Til Dawn.

Reservoir Dogs, bro. Mr. Brown.
One of my favorite movies ever.

Reservoir Dogs?

Thank you, fellow cultured man.

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Scientists in the modern day are just fancy whores.

Found Eric Weinstein KF account!
Based af, Sir.

The best and most accurate poll is always the state of your wallet. Everyone will throw the joy out of the window the moment they missed two meals because they couldn't afford them.

Unless you're a millionaire, then you get to go "idk guys I'm kind of in the center on this whole thing. People are sooo polarized these days, I have no idea why "

 

[Calandrino]

Hitler was appointed Chancellor of Germany by Paul von Hindenburg. He ran for President in 32. But lost. He got 13 million votes, 36% of them. Hindenburg got 19 million.

Hitler won by only ONE vote, which is why it's so important to get out there and Rock the Vote.

 

[Jacques1194]

You know what? I was looking at 2020 data. You are correct and I am retarded. Hispanic Texans are a majority now, but only by like 0.4%.

Yeah, though I do wonder how much it'll drop down. Honestly, sometimes it feels like white people just forgot how to have kids since I swear to god every single white majority area around me has had a drop in the white population. I get the economy is shit but still, this doesn't stop people in 3rd world countries from choosing to pop out 5 kids each.

 

[Justsomecicada]

Even if you are correct that it is essential, you will never convince them with that line of argument. Especially not within the context of them achieving their biggest win in history only two years ago.
It’s just going to fall on deaf ears.

Idk if I’d call losing literally every single referendum on the subject post roe vs wade being overturned is a win.

I get the economy is shit but still, this doesn't stop people in 3rd world countries from choosing to pop out 5 kids each.

I think that’s cause deep down most people recognize that’s not ideal at all, for the parent, for the kids, for society.

 

[Rimanah]

Idk if I’d call losing literally every single referendum on the subject post roe vs wade being overturned is a win.

I’m obviously referring to Dobbs. And whether or not the fallout has been good for the pro-life movement, the context of over-turning Roe is undeniably the biggest win for it in history.

Trying to convince them to step back right now because it’s an untenable position is like trying to convince an ardent abolitionist to stop advocating for the end of slavery and equal rights right after the passage of the 13th amendment. They’re not going to listen, even if you’re right.

 

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there's some who are sincere, but yeah pretty much everybody who's BAN ALL ABORTIONS NOW NOWNOWNOW is a hustler
any real change is going to have to be a slow progression through society like the libs did, it won't be overnight

It can either be a slow but wide change (what the libs did) or a fast but tall change (what the islamic gangs will do once they have enough power).

Or does the left really think that Achmed and Mohommad -- who throw acid on women who are merely seen in public -- are going to let women in the new Caliphate Ghettos they're building get abortions? Actually, don't answer that, I half think they genuinely do think that Muslims are akshually just like Christians and will be totally destroyed by facts and logic bro.

 

[XYZpdq Jr.]

Idk if I’d call losing literally every single referendum on the subject post roe vs wade being overturned is a win.

nonono you don't understand, the voter measure was worded confusingly
every single time

 

[Justsomecicada]

i just don’t see how you can be emboldened after losing every vote on it, even despite the courts ruling.

 

[XYZpdq Jr.]

i just don’t see how you can be emboldened after losing every vote on it, even despite the courts ruling.

being emboldened to create opportunities to fund-raise shouldn't be confused with being emboldened to "win" in the more conventional sense

 

[Sniperwoof]

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I'd watch a debate where Vance banished Walz to the shadow realm.

 

[HodgePodgeRogerDodger]

i just don’t see how you can be emboldened after losing every vote on it, even despite the courts ruling.

The issue is that abortion groups are a lot more funded. Girl Scouts basically got coopted to become a funding arm for Planned Parenthood.

Anti-abortion groups also have the issue of fighting against Pharma groups that want a cheap supply of human tissue for testing.

 

[Rimanah]

i just don’t see how you can be emboldened after losing every vote on it, even despite the courts ruling.

Emboldened is a strong term. I’m not sure how many are emboldened after the fallout.
Which is why I think the practical arguments of “look, you can’t just go full speed ahead and try and ban it all right now” will work. If they can be made to see how you’re still working towards their goals, but in a more tenable way than their current strategy, I think many would be open. Some probably wouldn’t, but that’s honestly something to be expected in a movement so deeply wedded to religion. There will be zealots and wanna-be-martyr types who can’t be reasoned with.

But telling them to simply accept the reality that they cannot nor should they aim to get it banned in its entirety will not work. That’s all I’m saying. Politics is in a large part about navigating fragile emotions and desires, and placating numerous different groups. Telling someone “we’ll fight for what you want, but we need to fight smart” is a world of difference from “fuck it man, you’re a retarded grifter who needs to accept the reality.”

 

[GunCar Gary]

How is it dooming to point out yes it is covered in all major networks, I didn’t say people would believe it, or that it would effect the election in anyway or any such statement like that. I simply said yes it is being covered. I do not doubt it will cycled out of the news cycle very soon either., I was just saying that it’s more then Reddit and msnbc.

If I was dooming I would have said I worry it will effect trump or the election but I don’t believe that.

because all the networks you listed have lied constantly over the last few years and the only people who trust what they say were already going to vote for Kamala anyway

https://news.gallup.com/poll/512861/media-confidence-matches-2016-record-low.aspx

https://archive.ph/8Vq6R

 

[Justsomecicada]

The issue is that abortion groups are a lot more funded. Girl Scouts basically got coopted to become a funding arm for Planned Parenthood.

Anti-abortion groups also have the issue of fighting against Pharma groups that want a cheap supply of human tissue for testing.

So what’s your point here? That literally every single referendum about abortion turned out pro abortion because they are better funded? I’m sorry I can’t believe that.

because all the networks you listed have lied constantly over the last few years and the only people who trust what they say were already going to vote for Kamala anyway

https://news.gallup.com/poll/512861/media-confidence-matches-2016-record-low.aspx

https://archive.ph/8Vq6R

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That still isn’t dooming, what stark raving mad said is “only msnbc and Reddit are milking it” so I pointed out that many places are milking it, nothing to do with people believing it. I literally said in the post your quoting that I don’t think it’s going to effect the election. This is so retarded

 

[Kankichi Ryotsu]

What's the difference between Kamala Harris and Adolph Hitler?

Hitler actually got votes to put Him into office.

I would actually vote for Hitler